Serral vs Clem just reinvented Terran vs Zerg. StarCraft 2
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- StarCraft 2 Tournament Master's Coliseum 2023 $40,000 (by World Team League) - The rank 1 StarCraft 2 player (Serral) takes on the only Terran who has beaten him this year (Clem) in this incredible Zerg vs Terran series!
StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void - Master's Coliseum 6 Main Event 2023 - Serral (Zerg) vs Clem(Terran) - Best of 5
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"Keeps assassinating the queens, classic Frenchman."
Dammit Winter is good.
he is
Yeah, 8:40, instant subscribe.
reminds me of - roughly:
"Storm - a historic counter to vikings as well a starcraft 2 one"
Damn. Tripling his opponents APM and just overtasking Serral to death. What a monster.
That absolute hero Banshee omg! one shot left to die and he goes and repairs it. Such awareness and control. Great match!
Love the commentary and watching these -- they do in fact make my day just a little bit better :)
I would like to see more mirror match-ups. Without them, we've been watching similar matchups (granted at different skill levels) for a while now. Without the mirror matchups, you only really get to see three different matchups ZvT, ZvP, and PvT. Would be cool to see more variety! Thanks Winter! Keep it up!!
The other 6 ketchups
The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources.
Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit
The scanning range is also very wide.
Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump
LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP.
On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively
Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function
In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall
The zerg is still garbage
INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
No race is more expensive than the Zerg
One last thing on my mind.
Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
Zerg have no such units
Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
nonono, please delete the zerg
SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!
That hero Banshee in game 3... just wow. That was a series. I feel a couple were tapped out a bit early but they're the pros.
Serral ...is on his last leg...but thankfully Zerg comes with so many of them....hahahahah Best commentary out there Winter hahahahaha
Clem did a good job of playing scared. Most fights he retreated very early, which meant he did not lose his units, which let him keep up with Serral
Both players played absolutely insanely well, congrats to both, but I just can't get it out of my mind just how absolutely despicably irritating the terran playstyle is. Just innately more efficient than other armies with the ability to freely harass with widow mines and medevac mobility... I really think Serral should've had that win.
Don't forget the turtling. Sit back and do fockall (at lower skill levels), maybe queue a drop, mass and go. People talk about the toss death ball but hat's nothing compared to lower level terran bullshit.
Both players did amazing but I cant ignore how irritating the zerg playstyle is. Just use the macro mechanic to get an economic advantage and roll endless waves of ling bane in with the fastest units in the game not caring about efficiency because of the crushing eco advantage, with 1 apm ling runbys to distract, so the guy with the 90ish% ZvT should always win.
@@spaceflightguru5380 exactly thank you 😂😂😂
Ofc both both Xavier and Space are right, both Terran and Zerg gamestyles are disgusting, only Protoss is elegant, honorable and fair:):). Besides canon rushing, skytoss turtling, prism in the main, invisible men.... :):). I do think each race can be triggering. As protoss , i must admit tough as much as I groan at the insta remax/insta tech switches of Zerg , nothing annoys me more then Terran drop plays. Its like those medivacs come in snipe stuff, and then mock you on the way out "hehe see you suckerz" :):). Because of this these days i alwsy play stargate and rebuild some phoenixes or even void rays, to alwys be able to hunt them down.....
@@firestarter000001 It depends on what level of play we talking. At lower levels terran is ez mode and zerg hard mode (unless you're a LOT better than the opponent). Maybe there's balance among the 500 apm pros (Serral singlehandedly destroying casual zerg play for everyone PERKELE!) but... Idk?
Edit units/buildings that are bullshit and need a fix:
Mines
PF
(once the patch comes cyclones)
Shield batteries + cannons
Zerg... Idk? Maybe that's me being biased now, as I'm currently playing zerg, but I'm z for the fun of it (used to play toss and it was EASY). What's a complete bullshit zerg unit? Lurkers/vipers (I don't use either often because it's hard to get to them when you die in the midgame because the mines require NOTHING out of players and then MMM sweeps the rest). If the ravager had a LOT more rapid spellcasting fire I'd say that but it doesn't so...
Your commentary is both clever and on point! You gave me a new reason to watch SCII matches. Props
Wow. Wow. Clem was so exciting to watch. Damn. Those were crazy good games. Best series in a week at least. Wow.
That main base defense against the Nydus in game 3 was beyond insane, despite the huge worker toll. Any other Terran would have folded like a chair against Serral doing this.
The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources.
Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit
The scanning range is also very wide.
Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump
LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP.
On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively
Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function
In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall
The zerg is still garbage
INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
No race is more expensive than the Zerg
One last thing on my mind.
Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
Zerg have no such units
Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
nonono, please delete the zerg
SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!
@@friedNchips holy copium this man copy and pasting this post 24/7 lmao
My God. Serral loses one fucking TvP after winning dozens and this guy brings out the crybaby copy pasta in full force.
Having problems in the Ladder lately? Well, I'm willing to bet my car over the fact that nothing of what you wrote about is what's keeping you back, my guy.
@@friedNchips What is this verbal diarrhea
@@friedNchips So basically you just want to see Zerg win every game?
I know nothing about starcraft.
But just from watching Serral, it seems he needs an answer for early drop ships from aggressive players like this guy. Of all the losses ive seen him take...this is most common
i havent watched the game fully but from my time in sc the drops are usually done when the enemy least expects them or if they do expect it then they are required to put resources towards doing so making either their roaming army weaker or economy so its often easier said then done
@@mangoe9523 yeah i can only imagine what its like at that level.
Petition To Rename Clem to "The God Slayer"
I was always wondering why Terrans didnt use more than like 1 widow mine at once.
Look how insanely powerful they are lined up 3-4 of them.
I literally was yelling, Clem repair that banshee now!
That banshee pilot needs a raise. GOAT
Serral in game 2. "No that wasn't right. Let me try that again"
Targeting queens disrupts lava production, burrow roach disrupts energy and mining production. Genuinely appreciate the underlying strats
Great games. Great cast.
This might be one of the most hype MUs out there. The Future VS The GOAT
Yeah I've been waiting for this one to show up in my feed!
Sure serral is good, also playing the strongest race that has been op for most of sc2
@@michaeltimmermann4228 not sure if your mad at blizzard about the balancing, about serrals fans because he happens to play the strongest race and wins a lot , or serrals for playing the strongest race?
clem playing out of his mind!!! awesome series
It’s awesome how Terran gets access to their endgame units from the Baracks.. Marines are such an insane unit
🤣
so easy to micro them though , its not like 5 banlings can destroy 40 of ur late game supply
@@mahmoudherbawi9774 5 banelings..... or 1 widow mine
@@TehJumpingJawa 1 widow mine can also destroy 40 supply of terran's late game :)))
Damn, Clem played out of his mind.
This series is a perfect illustration of how badly widow mines need a rework. The best player in the the history of the game spends three games specifically building around them, then finally for match point goes for the only consistently viable Zerg opening, and just gets cheesed out of existence by them. Widow mines ARE the issue with TvZ. Not widow mine DROPS, Widow Mines.
The fact that one SINGLE widow mine shot did 450 minerals and 9 larvae worth of damage is ridiculous. Widow mines are main reason I don’t play 1v1s as zerg.
Zerg players once again forgetting that Widow Mines do friendly fire too
At the least they shouldn't be invisible burrowed on creep what a crap unit
Balings are worse, they don't do any friendly fire so there is no need to micro them once you get 100 of them w giant ass Zerg economy, without Widow Mines Terran have no chance against Ling Bane Hydra
I could say the same thing for lurker, it's basically a siege tank that can cloak via burrow, siege up faster and can be healed for free from queen, it also moves faster especially on creep.
"Venn Dia-Scan" DAMNIT WINTER!
That is epic, grandmaster, challenger, LCK/LPL, Pr0 level bullshit.
I love you for it.
Now I can die happily finally seeing Serral losing a series.
Against best Terran Maru who was playing a straightforward Terran he won relatively easily with winning one single important battle as he always does but Clem definitely managed to drill through his head and constantly made him worry about something and kept him away from playing his own straightforward game. He didn't outmicro Serral but he did outmind him with keeping his mind constantly busy and striking where he doesn't expect. Outstanding job.
Spare me if I'm wrong I don't even play SC2 just love watching it and these are my personal observations.
38:41 "My need to feed gives me the will to survive... I gotta fly this fast to keep me alive!" - Hunger, Transformers: The Movie OST.
Man! Clem is just too fast. That guy is a quantum machine🤣 I don't understand why he struggles so much in TvT. With this micro, only Micro Jackson should be a match for him.
ya roaches suck for their supply count especially compared to marines. You can spend the whole game upgrading your very first unit with terran, then fly them around and zerg cant even make something that shoots up off creep until mid game. Making ANY air units as zerg too is a ridiculously expensive investment and spire takes like 5 years to build. And every patch they nerf the queen haha. Whatever I play toss, storm melts rhines.
That's not even the strongest build in TvZ. Thor hellbat tank ghost hardcounters literally every single zerg composition, except for mass ling/bane. Even then a good tank spread makes it a fair fight.
@@Gredddfe missed the oneforall-ghost
At 2nd game I though "why not just build a couple Banshees?", then 3rd game happened lol
The Banshee was a great story arc in game 3 but let us not forget about the BOYS battling it out in hand to hand combat with the Lings and Queens. May you brave SCV’s rest in Valhalla.
words in a row make a sentence.
Great series!
Damn son. The day the Serral Slayer manages to bring that game to the Koreans will almost certainly be the day that we may get to see a French SC2 champion.
Serral got slaughtered jesus
High praise for Clem
Now I can understand the term "Safe Banshee". Perfect Lesson Replay!.
All this taught me is if you wanna beat a zerg, don't let them get to end-game... Something that's been true forever except for weeks when anti armor missile did area of effect damage, it's almost like their area of effect is what makes zergs so unbeatable in the end game...
That's easily Starcraft 2's biggest struggle, the lack of actual updates, protoss in particular, so much wasted time in the margins instead of an actual rework.
That Banshee was th best i have seen in years
-it wasn't perfect , it wasn't clean , it was something in-between, it was Clem
Clem's gonna be Serral's Kryptonite.
Serral crushes Maru crushes Clem crushes Serral. MMA math doesn’t add up.
Serral’s slowly starting to incorporate Dark lovely
THAT THIRD GAME WAS INCREDIBLE!!!!!! HOLY SHIT!
Winter calling the Superbowl: Remove the ads, just have the game and add a few banelings on the field and I'm totally there for it.
Clem seems to be getting better and better.
Yes ! and the Banshee !
Well... Serral relies on queens for defense in the early game and larva in the late game. Clem, the classic Frenchman, is the bane of queens.
This is the first time in years that I've seen Serral lose. Nice first game!
Not really, its happening all the time. It's just he's so heavily favored that every series that he looses becomes instanews with many of the casters.
Alright Winter. I have fallen off quite a bit. But! I know I can catch back up, it is time for me to do what no viewer has done before! I will binge watch your content once again! During the month of November, I plan on watching 2, that's right 2, videos a day. This does not include any future uploads, meaning I can watch up to even 3 videos a day! If I follow this step-by-step program, I will catch up within 26 days of this comment posting. So, by the end of this month, I will be back to being caught up with all of your content. In the name of the algorithm gods, my CZcams shall be plastered with your channel. Starting now, each video I watch will get a comment, like, and if I could I would have also subscribed again.
damn serral got absolutely schooled and outplayed and that by a kid who is french to top it all off
That felt strange to watch. It didn't look like Serral - maybe he had a headache or something...
MaxPax cloaked IRL 😂
Damn, didn't know Serral could lose
You saying you hope "making oure day a little bit better" makes my day feel shittier.
Surprised no one uses Yamato to deny tech and unit buildings mostly.
King is down 😂
When you like the video before you watch it. Tell Jimmy I said what’s up
11:30 wtf serral destroy all the army and 2 base economy at the same time ._. a monster
amazing play
the serral slayer does it again
Why is there never any zvz, tvt, or pvp. I feel like its been a long time since i saw a mirror match.
That Banshee real MVP on g3 haha
Clem CLEM CCCLLLEEEMMM!!!
Are you winning, son?
Love ur commentary
Love you shows haha
Medis are the imba of the whole game. Z and p don't drop with the same frequency or efficiency but sure, give medis a buff
Repair the damn banshee it's a war heroooo. Lmaooo
Thank You
Om nom nom
Eventually it takes a European to defeat Serral in ZvT, internal affairs
Everybody praising that Banshi. But it’s like praising grown man winning against kids: nothing can reliably target air that game so it’s only natural it having million kills.
I'm not a good player but why doesn't serral play muta ling bane ? Sounds good against bio they're fast, have aoe with banes and muta for medivacs. I mean the medivacs are clearly an issue , he could even build like 5 corruptors to deal with medivacs idk
If 3 reapers are threepers and 3 oracles arr thrieckles are thrice fast roaches throaches.....questions. Questions that need answers
Im confused. Why did he surrender so quickly in game 3? Was that game really done?
How did they reinvent the machup?
How to defeat the final Boss
So what I'm seeing is, Serral tried roaches so he wouldn't be constantly abused all series by bio/mine.
nice matches - the zerg burrow can be so disguting
Clem is awesome
Zerg are OP and need a nerf.
Nevermind they lost this series so I'm going to pretend I didn't see it and complain on the next video
If it ain’t Byun I don’t want it
Anyone elses quality stuck at 360p? Only on this vid 😭😭😭
good job balance council, you make zerg weaker. Thanks!
... not going to mention the Terran nerf too, are you?
🙌
WELCOME BACK
👀
Is Clem still Byoung?
How u gonna build 20 hydras and not use a single one to zone out drops smh my head
Trying hard and being caught out, just means new games3 look 2ward js ❤
We all know how the French feel about royalty...
CLEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM GREATTTTT FROM BRAZILLLLLL ♥
Tolerable games, for games without Protoss :). Seriosuly great games.
For the algorithm
i liked Wings of Liberty more than the expansions. The concepts of the new units from the expansions doesn't make sense to me. Also too many "hero" type units with abilities. I feel like each race having 1 or 2 is enough, having too many makes it feel more like LOL or Dota than a RTS game.
gg
GOTY
The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources.
Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit
The scanning range is also very wide.
Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump
LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP.
On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively
Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function
In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall
The zerg is still garbage
INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
No race is more expensive than the Zerg
One last thing on my mind.
Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
Zerg have no such units
Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
nonono, please delete the zerg
SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!
I hate Terran. They have a variation for everything and every game is mm tank
:)