Is DJI Pocket 3 Really Better Than Action 4 and Full Frame Cameras?
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- čas přidán 1. 11. 2023
- Does this DJI Pocket 3 really destroy the Action 4, Gopro 12, mirrorless cameras designed for vlogging like the Canon R8, Sony ZVE1, Nikon Z30 etc? Today we are testing some new filters with the DJI Action 4 and ranting about whether or not to buy the Pocket 3 as an "upgrade". Freewell made a mist filter just for me! Testing that, vs a DJI Action 4 filter hack with glimmer glass.
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Mist 3 has to dreamy effect.
Also would love to see Polarised image (not the case in this episode, haha :)
Good to know about Freewell.
Did you ask Freewell VND 2nd gen filters? Waiting for interesting review from you, Kasey.
100%! Mist/glimmer type and ND filters are a must! Thank you for getting this word to the OEMs!
Where are you walking?
@@gendashwhy Along The Danforth in Toronto
The problem :
"Dear
Thank you for contacting DJI Technical Support.
We are grateful to assist you with your concern.
Regarding your situation, we are sorry to inform you the main camere battery cannot buy singlely, we recommend you to buy the battery handle to help yo solve this issue. This could also help you solve the battery life issue."
So you trow away the Pocket 3 in 2 years maximum when battery no longer charges.
DJI missed a trick by not sending you the Pocket 3. You are honestly critical and it sounds like you would have given them a glowing review
As a guy who works at a camera store, you always make my day by ranting about stuff and being consistently right. The Pocket 3 is amazing, really fun stuff. Its footage easily outperforms anything Sony and Canon can do at 1 inch with smoothest image of almost any camera.
That garbage truck, accidental tracking shot, was cool.
One of my favorite features of the Pocket 3 so far is how discreet it is. I love being able to whip out a gimbal stabilized camera in places I wouldn’t have felt comfortable bringing my gimbal mounted aps-c camera. I’ve been taking motionalpses in restaurants, for example. Also the wide angle lens is overkill. I do however really like the case that comes with the creator kit and obviously the extensions for tripod mounting. I want a pro version with a a lens array / zoom lens, removable battery, and weather sealing.
Own FX3, RS3 Pro, ZV-E10 and Crane M3S. Both setups are still too conspicuous in many places. Kinda happy with how the P3 has shaken out for POV walk people like me.
Question: I heard you cannot disable de bokeh effect (blurry background) on the OP3, true?
@@noodlessoul8356 Yeah this sounds correct as I believe the bokeh on the Pocket 3 is a result of the F2 aperture lens and not a software effect like the iPhone's bokeh.
Big thanks goes out to Freewell. Will consider your products when buying accessories.
Doubt if grandpa knows what a vlog is 😂
The Action 4 with closeup filter looked really good. Totally usable!
and you even have a bit of Anamorphic Lens Pincushion distortion. ;) the cinema was ours.
I bought the Pocket 3 and was somewhat underwhelmed. Yes, it does what it says on the box but honestly, it's not all it's cracked up to be when it comes to video quality. Color science is "weird", low-light performance is ho-hum and even with EV at -3 it still tends to clip the highlights on high-contrast scenes in HDR and DLog formats. "Beauty features" are all well and good but I'd rather just have a good solid camera with more dynamic range and better color science.
For the CPL to work you have to turn the lens until the reflection is gone in the monitor/screen, you also want your light source (in most cases the big yellow orb of death) to be 90 degrees from the lens.
I just discovered your channel and I LOVE your style and personality man. Super funny and heavy on insights, thank you!
I don't recommend randomly buying new gear but the Pocket 3 is a different matter. It would save you time and aggravation while delivering better vlogging footage than you currently have. Experimenting is fun too but sometimes it's a little painful watching the struggle with manual lenses or fixed focus lenses that are rarely in focus. I think the Pocket 3 would allow you to do all your basic footage and then you can just cut away to whatever gear you're demonstrating. Also, i don't like mist filters because they negate the optics of the lens but this Freewell filter looks good on the action cam; it takes the digital edge off.
We don’t ever want him to find the perfect camera 😂
@@ACOB I am certain he would find faults with the Pocket 3. For me, it would be nice to see less of these manual lenses that are never in focus and the action cams that focus on the background. It's a bit painful to watch at times.
The way that CPL completely took away ALL reflections was EPIC!! Sold!
You are right about this being replacing a high end phone. I was about to upgrade from 12 pro max to 15 pro max for the video capabilities and usb-C. But Instead, i think i can keep the 12 pro max for photo and get the pocket 3 for videos.
I’d like too see a comparison between the two. From what I have seen from the pocket so far, it looks a little on the soft side.
@@1rcbking yes, i would take the softer video than the over sharpened iphone videos. Even to the back camera of iphone, I felt the background separation is much better on Pocket 3.
Good decision ;-)
The pocket looked a little soft in The Markus Pix video compared to the Rx100..that’s not saying it’s bad at all. And the more sample videos I see of the pocket 3, the more it is looking like it is an awesome little camera.
@@1rcbking its gonna look more soft with that black mist filter.
The flourescent downtown Canada footage. So chill. Don't ever change.
Bud, your mission is over i'am afraid.. Perfect vlogging camera is upon us. I do use pocket 3 for the past few days (ordered few minutes after launch ;) ) and i love it ! It become my main camera now.
I have to say I much prefer the monopod extended out look of this action cam vlog than the usual close up view. This is where action cams shine, imo. The extremely small size and light weight that allows for interesting shots you couldn't get otherwise.
By far the funniest guy here. Each time I start a video I think his little smirk will get old this time, and then he always starts with something hilarious and I’m hooked again. Good stuff wolverine claws 😂😂😂😂
DJI pocket 3 has many pros. But then I watched Markus's videos & he makes sense on the cons as well, haha !
Yea lots of cons for sure. Together, me and him will find all the flaws lol.
true but he removed them ...really strange wanted to show it to a friend and couldn't find them
@@cameraconspiraciesand now his (Markus) video is gone?
both videos gone!@@gordon3988
@@gordon3988 DJI has threatened to sue ?
I cannot sleep watching pocket 3 videos, I don't even need it
Action Cam + Pocket 3 + Mirrorless cam just make a phenomenal toolset as they all compliment each other, all 4k and all 10 bit. I'd like a 1/8 glimmer glass for the Pocket 3 for night time highlights, make it happen please Freewell.
by jove lad, what are you doing here?
I'm trying to get mr creator to take one on my mics and he's ignoring me, perhaps if we both shout at him to swap a tee shirt for one of my mics he may just listen?
i wish there was an adapter so i can just slap my big ass 77mm glimmer filter on a tiny action cam lmao
I kinda wish I could switch the focus on the pocket 3 to be more like the action 4s infinite focus. I like the background being in focus for walking, hiking, photography vlogs.
Is it possible to make nice bokeh with it in studio? Or better buy Sony zv-e10?
I just grabbed the Sony a6700. It’s super small and so far, really impressive. Great vid man!!
Mexican sushi (15:30).... hmmm never had it. We need a review asap.
Great video, fun to watch, great that you got your own filter. Love the look 😂 Maybe I will also release one for my Hero 10 I still use on my videography channel 😮 Keep on going, love your vids! Keep blooming 😅
The cinema is ours friends, they need to make this for everyone.
Bro I remember this guy from a hair loss video years ago. And I randomly bought a action 4 recently and came across this guy again hahaha what a character. Subscribed.
Just get the Pocket 3, man. It's awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing your Pocket 3 video!
Markus Pix entered the chat…
I wonder what Markus Pix thoughts are on the pocket 3? He’s not wrong lol😂
He made 2 videos already featuring the DJI Pocket 3. One featured Action 4
@@MarkoAssi_pokervlogger Yes I’ve seen them… it was rhetorical or sarcasm depending on attitude. Lol
I like your videos buddy you got the best dialogue side of Texas. It’s hip and cool thanks for having a great channel.
I would love to hear your take on the iPhone 15 pro max! The tele lens, the log, using filters on your phone, and the black magic app. Would you shoot vlogs on that rig? Does the whole thing suck?
I hit that LIKE button with delight, I really respect the fact you already published 2 good videos about DJI Pocket 3, without having the camera 😅 I know they didn't send it to you, some old geezer did a video comparing it to some full frame Sony pocket sized camera, he didn't even know how to use DJI Pocket! 😂 Well that's life. Waiting for the moment when you actually get it and then to watch your reviews. I bought Pocket 2 after watching your videos and realizing even though your were putting it down, that it out-filmed everything that you put against it! 😄Cheers!
The rubber ring DIY trick just illustrates how easily equipment can be modified for individual use/needs. Anyone who's been into photography or video production long enough does this.
Mist filters can easily be made out of UV filters or neutral filters with a can of hairspray and the right technique. Spray into air and sweep filter through mist; repeat as needed for softer effect. That's how you get a mist filter produced for a camera system that doesn't have filters in 5-10 minutes.
Ring adapters for lenses/cameras without threads can be 3D printed (measure dimensions, model in software, print), or just find the appropriately sized silicone or rubber band that provides the right thickness to friction fit a filter. Or use an adhesive glue to fix small neodymium magnets to the custom mounting ring and filter.
This is the type of thing a crafty individual can make in an afternoon when overnight shipping isn't an option.
Also thinking about the Picket 3 but gonna wait for your review first!
Just one question when it comes to editing do both camera ie action 4 and pockets 3 footage blend good together if there both set to same setting thanks
Mad respect to the old guy for declining your invitation to being in the vlog. 4:30 😊
I gotta say I am a fan of tiny cams that can go in my pocket. One that can actually do nice video without weird limits is amazing.
The pocket 3 super slomo is a bit smudgey, however, you don't need fast shutters to make the stabe work, because gimbal. Also, I love how freewell questioned the use of the fried chicken grease filters on an action cam.
I was debating the R8 and Z30, I bought the R8, but I think I have regrets. Z30 is probably more my style.
This fills a use case perfectly. Now we just need a purpose built all-in-one wildlife camera. A new RX10 revision that abandons wide angles and just starts at 200mm.
You're right, Micro 4/3 is close to a 1 Inch sensor. It's in the name actually, it's 4/3 of an inch. It's a 1.33 inch sensor. Also you have the nerdiest and most polite comment section on the internet. Its both sweetly endearing and weird.
You ought to do a vlog of the nice old homes in Toronto. The home you passed (where you encountered the older gentleman) with the well sculpted lawn, changing trees and such, was intriguing.
Give this man an OP3, please...
Btw, on the OP3 supposedly the background is always blurry (bokeh) and cannot be disabled?
that glimmer filter made it so good
First, yes please Freewell. Make it but make the ring smaller in diameter so it doesn’t interfere with the sensor in the O of the camera. Second. I did the CZcams hack for my action 3 and it’s lovely. Works wonders. Use a snow mist filter. Easy to remove too. Third. If freewell make it, they might just as well have two ears on there with fluffy dead cat pieces to cover up the microphones at the same time.
It doesn't cover the O of the camera, but my glimmer glass hack does.
Love the mist filter. Take my money! I will buy it when it's available.
Can you tell them to make mist + ND combo for the Pocket 3?
I really Love the black pro mist filter 😍🙏
BROTHER can you tell me please which software you use for color grading and your exposer was on -3 or -7 inside cameera settings
Z30 quite nice actually! Can make a great travel kit, but OA4 much better for vlogging!
Yeah the Freewell filter is awesome! They need to make it!!
The pocket 3 is the newest shiny thing, but I don’t have a need for it. I have trouble digesting the perfect camera concept mostly because each person has different needs for a camera. I get what you’re doing because you are comparing gear to determine the perfect camera for you. Markus takes some older gear with a few techniques and gets very good results. I don’t vlog but from the outside looking in, it seems like the action cameras are a better solution for a pocket size camera?
Current action cameras are a great solution for a pocket camera, but not so much in lower lighting. That's where the gimbal and larger sensor begin to show the advantage. And the Pocket 3 is still a pocketable size for most people. Both have different advantages for different uses. Nobody is going to be scuba diving with the Pocket 3, and it's not intended for that market.
Low light recording? Any solution for DJI action 4? I am still deciding on which to buy pocket 3 or action 4….
Just finished cracking open my Pocket 3… incredible piece of equipment. Someone made the statement about GlimmerGlass 1 for the Pocket 3 (I’m all in). I have GlimmerGlass 1 on all of my 4 LUMIX S5 II for Events and I live by them. Freewell / Polar Pro - somebody needs to catch up with GlimmerGlass.
Looking forward to your optimum buying strategy for the Pocket 3 because yeah the creator pack may be not ideal. The new Rode Pro remote mic kit looks a good thing if it matches seamless with DJI.
Where to get that tripod
Great review !!
Your videos are amazing 😂
Did you rotate the CPL to the correct position? It didn't look like it was actually working.
I ordered my dji osmo pocket 3 creator combo and picked it up yesterday. Already started playing around with it. Isn’t amazing but definitely made vlogging so much easier. I’ll be getting rid of my Fujifilm x-e4. Still keeping my Sony fx3.
black mist looks heaps good and the glimmer glass was better great job !
I have the Pocket 3 and the stabilization on such a small gimbal can only do so much. And like all electronic gimbals, you frequently have to reshoot stuff just because of the gimbal having a mind of its own. It’s for sure better (more convenient) for some use cases but I personally don’t see it killing off other camera form factors.
@Freewell should definitely make the filters!!
The Pocket is another sharp tool in the arsenal for me. It is actually fun to use unlike my phone to film myself with. It’s just as fast and convenient as a phone or action camera to get a quick, stabilized shot of something. It’s features work cohesively together to get out of your way. The image is excellent and when graded well rivals mid-tier MFT cameras.
There are whole YT channels that filmed years of content with the Pocket 2. Now the pocket 3 definitely looks better than a phone. It’s great!
Wow! This is a pretty cool looking footage 👍
There is something about my pocket 3 where it has a really nice exposure I cannot get with my gopro.. Like the camera is smart enough to know when it is dark that it is OK to have some black areas and then indoors it seems to slightly overexpose but in a good way without grain. It handles harsh lightining indoors and at night very well.
Thanks for all of your great videos. I know they take a lot of work and you should be commended. I am not sure if I’m a big fan of the DGI pocket 3. Everything looks rounded at the top(spherical look), in contrast to using a phone for video as things have a more flat affect.
Also, towards the end of your video when you were near the bank and other structures, as you were walking, the blurriness at the edges is pretty bad and it seemed to extend to far into your shot?
That's the close focusing filter effect. The middle is sharp and the edges are kind of smeared. It's not great lol.
Thanks for the explanation.@@cameraconspiracies
Besides the specs, features and video quality, the Pocket 3 is tempting because you're less likely to have someone mug you on a night vlog (or just capturing an event like Halloween or Christmas lights) and less likely to have someone tell you to put it away because they don't allow professional cameras to be used. That's why I'm debating it, possibly selling my ZV-E10, lenses, and Crane M3 gimbal. But, I'm kindof waiting for the Camera Conspiracy review. 😃
What is the selfie stick you've used in this video?
Idk if it was because of different lighting but the freewell mist filter looked really nice on the Action 4 imo. I prefered it over the glimmer.
DJI, send this guy a Pocket 3 already! And me too! That action 4 footage actually looks pretty decent and the stabilization is really good too. I may just get that now that I've seen this.
Buy it already! it's a great camera, you won't be disappointed... Sucks they just didn't slap one your direction
Yes, the Close up filter looked great. I've been searching for one for my Osmo Action 4. You're the first person to figure out a solution. BUT you don't have a link for the close up filter. Would you please post a link for the Close Up filter? I'm assuming you just got a 49mm one and put it in your gerry-rig filter holder? The Osmo Action 4's close focus of 16 inches is just a bit too far for vlogging. I want a filter that could get me a focus distance of about 12 inches. I already have a glimmer glass 49mm. I just need to get your gerry-rig filter holder for the action 4. Thanks.
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Mist filter and glimmer glass both looked great 👌👍🎯
I am going to purchase tomorrow.
ok but the switch to the close focus lens at 14:15 was pretty awesome, it looks amazing.
is this just the step up ring and close focusing filter alone?
also the lens cap would be really nice because right now im using a microfiber cloth and a cardboard cap that goes over the whole camera.
itssuper annoying to use. im always afraid ill mess up the lens without something protecting it. where can we find that?
Yep. Links in the pinned comment. I buy lens caps on aliexpress usually, very cheap.
Yeah, some shipments to Canada are sent to San Bernadino where they languish, forgotten for some reason. I've had things take 6 weeks to get from Portland to Victoria.
Get that Pocket 3 already 😅 I wanne see you review it! I already own 2 cant wait to have fun with it. I need those nd filters man
iPhone 15 Pro Max is not the only Smartphone camera that can do log that takes away sharpeness and saturation. The Honor Magic 5 Pro has the same as well. They did it even before the iPhone had it (Magic 3 series) Then there is Oppo Find X6 Pro & Xiaomi that also offer Log in their newest smartphones.
And then there are Xperia smartphones that have a soft camera like look from the start.
The Pocket 3 btw. looks also by default very processed and smartphone like with oversaturation and sharpness turned to 100.
I used to have pocket 1 and 2,sold them both after 6 months after their release…have to say it’s a game changer for ppl who know nothing about camera stuff especially at night…but since it’s so light results the Z axel up and down problem and lack of waterproof is really a pain in the ass…I’ll stick to my old SONY RX0 ii and X3000 tho…thanks for trying every shxt for us..xd
I have a Pocket 2 (the third one), it's my camera for special tasks (evening walks when it's not raining), and I didn't sell it (again) just because it's small. I loved my X3000 - I've had several... But the lack of water resistance and a few other minor inconveniences such as the lack of new cameras and problems with glue - sharpness put off a bit. I'm currently mostly using Action 4 and my P40 pro... but I'm missing ...... X4000 :)... Seriously... if someone got used to the X3000 then there is nothing like that 100% swap on the market today.
man, with that glimmer glass thing, it almost looks like a sony! guess pocket 3 is the way to go. I'm saving my arse to get one!
That slow mo looks great lol
I have the Freewell filters for my Action 4, and if they sell closeups +1, +2, I will buy them. And if they sell a mist filter, I'll buy that, too.
I like the Freewell filter.
I bought both in last week. The Action cam 4 has great video but haven’t shot Pocket 3, still waiting on Promist filter
I still think the Action 4 footage is more pleasing than the Pocket 3.
Same. And also seems like the bokeh effect on the OP3 cannot be disabled?
@@noodlessoul8356 It's not effect, it is true bokeh because of the f2 aperture and 1 inch sensor.
Count me in for the Freewell Acton 4 ND & CPL filters!!
911 What's your emergency? Yes, there's a crazy man walking down the street talking to a stick. I love your content, please don't stop!
Great info
This Action 4 with the filters is really good. Good enough for most of us here!
I just sold my R6 to get a Pocket 3 to use with my C70. Hopefully, it wasn't a mistake.
Somehow I want to quote John Candy in the classic film Stripes (1981)
Pvt. Cruz: Maybe I should fold?
Pvt. Ox: Well... let me see, first. No, not with a hand like that. C'mon, dare me. Bluff me. C'mon.
Pvt Cruz: How much do I bet?
Pvt. Ox: Well, if it were me? I'd bet everything, but that's me. I'm an aggressive gambler. Mr. Vegas. C'mon go for it.
:)
Just get the darn camera. Life is too short!
Thanks for the honest commentary and video #cameraconspiracies
Anyone know if it's possible to stack the mist filter + ND on the Pocket 3? I'm able to do this on the E-M5 III, and perfectly happy with the image I get, but it would be nice to do it with a smaller stabilized device for mounting on the bicycle.
Nowp :(
EM5 III destroys all.
@@cameraconspiracies Still, we demand more 💫
@@bvmproductiesbe Just a matter of time before Kasey with his monkey strength and industry connections makes it happen
Hey i want this black mist filter for action 4!
If I had a dji pocket I would get the black mist filter for it.
Freewell, please please release a wide angle lens compatible with ND filters like you did with the pocket 2. I’m an instant buyer
I'd buy one if they make a 1/8 just to soften a bit, but I'm pretty happy with the look out of the Action 4 to be honest. It is a great, little, no frills, take everywhere camera.
I bought the Pocket 3 Creator Combo on a whim and I am absolutely STUNNED at the footage coming out of this thing. As a bonus, it's tiny and totally inconspicuous. I will never go back, and I am selling quite a bit of gear because of it. I almost bought the Action 4 a few times, but I'm glad I didn't after watching some comparisons between the Pocket 3 and the Action 4. The Pocket 3 footage, for whatever reason, is WAY better than the Action 4. You've got to try one, it'll blow you away!
Talking nonsense here, action cam is for different purposes so you can do underwater shots, even when its raining 🌧 would you take pocket 3 in water? And image is very similar if not the same
@@arturaszaleskis8907 I agree they're for different purposes. I addressed the comparison because it was discussed in this video and the comparison video I watched, and the difference was stunning considering the specs are not that different on paper. I'm not suggesting Kasey get rid of his Action 4 for those purposes, I was suggesting he might also enjoy a Pocket 3 for its intended purposes.
I understand only a small fraction of your techno gobbledygook but I love to hear you talk. It's techno-poetry to my ears :) (and how creepy is that!)
That guy around 1:05 was looking at you like you are crazy
What tripod are you using? You should include a link to it in the description.
They don't make it anymore unfortunately. There are probably alternatives.