A Killer New Commercial 3 in 1 Sheathing
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- čas přidán 29. 03. 2018
- This new system from USG & Tremco combines USG sheathing with a Tremco 22mil (or thicker) Fluid Applied Air & Water Barrier. Join Matt on a commercial building site for a demonstration and overview of this killer new product.
Check out our Blog Post on this product - mattrisinger.com/securock-exoa...
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I'm exhausted just looking at the thousands of feet of temporary rails.
With so much negativity, I'll say GOOD job for providing different options. (You said that a couple times, I guess they missed it)
thanks for including some commercial products
Looks sealed well. Cool video
Have worked with this type of sheeting in construction here in Seattle. It was used over a wood and steel comercial building and multi-story residential. Like this new product and looks much better than the system I had to use. Only down side to these panels is they weigh a ton! Lol. Great video, thank you for sharing..
Brian A can it be used with framing nails?
Here in Ocean City NJ it may be a good product to use. The houses are about 10 ft apart and now all the new buildings are getting some type of gypsum sheathing for fire resistance I guess.
I’m currently doing Tremco products. 1) you wanna put primer before you apply the 110(the exoair). 2) I’d prefer spreading the caulk on the corners just to make sure there’s enough space for the window. 3) caulk ALL seams on the 110 from the exteriors to avoid leakage. 4) use a j roller so the adhesive stays on.
What is the chemical make up of the Tremco ExoAirxxx on the gyp board? STPE, acrylic or what? Seems all MFR’s are now coming out with integral air barrier sheathing systems. I prefer Dens Element with Fast Flash because it’s STPE but would be open to other silyl terminated polyether’s. Thanks in advance.
What a mess! The local sales guy just gobbing on and smearing things around...not impressed. Why is this better than ZIP Panel with ZIP Tape and Stretch tape?....which you have you have so often touted?? And as others have noted....gypsum has no shear strength...does it? What about weight of these sheets?? I am not feeling it here.
Profit diversification
Its also for commercial buildings made of concrete and steel. I'm not sure they even need shear strength in sheathing. Years ago, they used cross braces in residential before plywood.
100% agreed. This product and the solution seems like a stretch.
Gypsum does have shear strength when installed with certain screw patterns.
Take a look at the CCL (3rd party independent test lab) findings of the Zip system at low pressures - czcams.com/video/Ce7M0vNAeqc/video.html
I would be concerned with the overdriven fasteners and knot holes that are on all projects. - I was a QAQC Manager for Billion dollar construction Company, and know you will never "see" these types of leaks until they happen - especially the knot holes.
Matt, can I purchase a cap with “build” on it like the one in this video.
Coming soon! Working on the details now
Hey Matt ! Ive been Watching your videos for a while, thanks alot for the information! I would like to know if you can Talk about passive house wall layer. Thanks
Great topic idea! Yes I’ll add that to my list
Battery powered caulk gun and work is easy peazy
You didn't indicate any shear strength attributes which you mentioned typical sheathing had for residential wood frame construction?? Perhaps for post and beam but unlikely for stick frame, especially in earthquake zones. Possibly requires enhanced siding materials in hurricane zones too to prevent envelope puncture from flying debris. Maybe not suitable in conjunction with vinyl siding and other inexpensive (non-structural) residential siding. I think its possible lack of a structural characteristic will prevent its introduction into residential assemblies considerably.
This product is intended for commercial construction only. Correct, no shear value.
Most of the comments disregard the important fact this product is fire-resistant and complain that is not suitable for stick framing.
Maybe is time to think of building differently.
Most homes in the US are built with at least 50% of structural building material that is flammable.
That is absolutely crazy.
Can't say this excited me much. Why would it be any better than the zip sheeting?
This product is intended for commercial construction. This is fiberglass faced gypsum sheathing as opposed to wood sheathing. That means it’s fire resistant, and won’t support mold growth. Very different product from zip. They’re there certainly are some similarities
Matt Risinger totally get why they use it on a concrete and steel structure where it can be the WRB and not much structure. Where can you see us using it in resi construction?
Matt Risinger after reading your comments below, your saying this will be good for the steel and concrete resi builders. All good!
Also consider 0 lot line accessory buildings where a one hour rating is required, this be ideal over wood sheathing and still have the air barrier.
This new system is totally non-combustible. Which is often important in commercial construction that doesn't use conventional wood framing. Some commercial construction does use conventional wood framing though, especially low-rise buildings.
Looks like “Risky Business” 😎
Another budget build question:
With all things being equal, and you had some extra funds to improve an aspect of a home, would you spend it on:
1. A more airtight seal.
2. Higher R-value on the envelope.
3. VRF system with dehumidifier and EVR.
Granted, the cost factor is going to be different for each one, but if I am shifting funds around on the house, which one will be the best in long term value?
Thanks.
Three plane windows, with heat reflect layer.
For areas the are subject to high wind storms. How tough is that panel against flying debris?
Matt, you review so many similar products, this, zip, and Prosecco,,,, how is someone to choose?
The exposed adhesion joint at the top of the ExoAire above the window bothers me... believe I would also detail that joint with Dymonic.
Just eliminate the panels and build the whole thing with the a silicone caulking gun Lol
Boom @1:51 - Construction mic drop.
After you go to the effort of sealing all the seams and screw holes, how do you attach siding to this product without poking a bunch of new holes in it?
This product 's membrane is self gasketing, the sealant over the screw heads while fastening the board to the studs is recommended and required because installers often times do not adjust adjust their nose cones and "over drive" the fastener past the membrane. When using a brick tie, or siding, the fastener can not be overdriven and as long as the fastener is installed into the stud or other structural membrane (where it will not "spin out") the membrane "sticks" to the fastener, sealing to it. This type of product has to pass numerous ASTM tests and standards in order to be used in this fashion.
Matt show us some ICF constitution
159 matt just drops the board. Sounds heavy. Haa looks good. Im looking for something that wont support ANY mold growth.
Since it's a gypsum product how do they deal with it being installed in the rain?
This is fiberglass faced, not paper faxed. It will not absorb any water and installing in the rain will not hurt it
how about the opposite face?
Can someone explain the 'crayon' thing he did in this video? Or provide me a good reference to find out more?
igounfazed it’s most likely to prevent joint failure when you get expansion, contraction or movement that can shear the sealant or exceeds its elastic limit.
You can google more, but here is a quick hit. www.buildingdiagnostics.com/articles/sealantjoints.html
@Nobody F: So. After reading that link, I have come to the conclusion, "Do not use any sealants without having a Sealant PHD!"
Reading that felt like sealants require the sun, moon, and stars to be properly aligned, and that I be bathed with the sacrificed blood of a virgin unicorn, if I ever want to have proper adhesion.
That said, from reading the article, *they ruined the joints when they added the crayon, as they introduced weak points between the sealant and the wall, promoting future failure.*
So now I am really curious why a builder, with so much experience, would show crayon being applied for sealant applications. ??
@Nobody F: Thank you for the response.
Nice to see construction incorporating Silicon. Computers have had the monopoly on it for too long.
at5:00 why don’t you want it to stick to the corner?
Seams?
4:52 Why do you not want the *TremCo Dimonic* (sp?) *100 **_schmoo_* adhering to the inside corner?
*Edit:* Does it have to do with movement between the panels? That is to say, if it were adhered to the inside corner and the panels moved it might _”break”_ the seal?
Toob247 Toob247 - thanks mate :)
Toob247 Toob247 - as yo can tell from my technical language (thanks *AvE),* I’m not a builder :)
It's siliCONE...not siliCON...silicon is something entirely different they make computer chips out of...
Love your channel. Just don't know what you genuinely are sponsoring or getting paid for. Should add that disclosure. This product seems like a stretch for any home builder. This doesn't solve an immediate problem especially for less cost. Zip+Liquid Flashing is superior to this and does the same "QC" you make a point on
Alex, this is one of my channel sponsors. This is intended for commercial buildings. If you do all residential this is not going to be a fit for you
Wouldn't this over wood sheathing give a one hour? If so, then the residential application is 0 lot line structures.
Take a look at the CCL (3rd party independent test lab) findings of the Zip system at low pressures - czcams.com/video/Ce7M0vNAeqc/video.html
I would be concerned with the overdriven fasteners and knot holes that are on all projects. - I was a QAQC Manager for Billion dollar construction Company, and know you will never "see" these types of leaks until they happen - especially the knot holes.
Curious how much testing you have done with types of products? and what QAQC does Zip System integrate - do you seal every knot hole and every fastener? If not you have potential failure locations.
Although Zip will burn and migrate the fire upward and inside the building, this material will not.
So it may be worth also for the residential home builder as long they install it on a steel-framed structure.
Hey Mr. Matt,
How about something like a shipping container home for the rest of us that cannot afford a super high end $1M home you often talk about? I have no issues with all these pricey homes, but most of your audience cannot or might not want to spend that much on a home, of that value right now. Real estate market sucks everywhere. Personally, I’m sitting back waiting for another crash or ‘shift’ as the BS marketers like to refer to it . I personally an building a 7 unit HC(high cubic rate) 40ft container home in Arizona, where I can still afford to buy dirt. Let’s all just real. I like your show and all, but it’s getting a bit inflated lately.
These are the homes he builds. It is his channel of what he does with his company. He focuses on those items for the most part and discusses budgetary constraints as well. There probably are other channel creatores with the type of information youre looking for. I personally find it in general very well done and informative. Keep it up Matt!
Just went down this road with this on a 108k sf industrial building. Densglass with a fluid applied (sprayed) is still cheaper than any of the fiberglass faced products like this. The dens element board was almost twice as expensive and the detail sealant is still too expensive. Price needs to drop! Commercial is all about the money.
why do you "bond break"with a crayon on the internal corner?
To allow movement of the joint without the possibility of breaking the seal.
For sealant to perform, it is not supposed to have "3-point" adhesion, in other words it needs to have some part of it not adhered to a structural element so it can actually move properly. Sealing into any corner without a bond breaker is not recommended. Check your sealant manufacturer and their requirements for proper installation / warranty.
It's Zip for Commercial.
GypZip 😏
with the massive amount of plastic accumulated in the ocean, cant a 4x8 recycled plastic board be produced as siding? plastic siding instead of plywood! what would the r value be? wind resistance=0! 0 rot! 3/4 inch plastic sheathing on a house would be awesome and we could get rid of that mess in the ocean. please tell me what you think. it would be super strong and you could pu siding on it!
Plastic siding; Toxic under fire, fuels the fire. Burns hotter and faster. (Grenfell towers, uk)
Is this at the Domain?
Yep! Not far from my house
Awesome! We're at 183/Lamar, but we're building in Denver. Thanks for all the great advice. It's been tremendously helpful!
does this product "beathe"? what about trapping moisture from the inside?
This product is vapor open. However it is airtight. That’s what we want. I’m not a fan of using the term “breathe“. That’s very misleading. We want our buildings air tight so that we can bring fresh air in on our terms, not just when it’s windy outside
Matt Risinger ,How can it be vapor open, but airtight ?
Matt Risinger ,is it waterproof ?
Matt Risinger , JUST TRYING TO LEARN More about materials,nice channel. SCOTT HENDERSON
Similar to a HouseWrap. Do this test. Take a canning jar and screw the lid over a HouseWrap that’s vapor open. Leave a 1/4 cup of water at the bottom. If you leave that in your house the water will evaporate and “breathe” through the HouseWrap even though air can’t get in or out.
This is actually very common for commercial construction. We design this way all day long. Last I heard though the Exoair actually has microscopic fibers in it which allow moisture to wick through (that’s bad), too bad the didn’t team up with Prosoco or DowCorning, or GE even.
I’ve seen the Independant tests on Tremco Fluid Applied at the University of Texas research facility and it did extremely well. I disagree with your hearsay
Zipwall?
This is similar
The product looks very effective, but whole process looks a little cumbersome. On the positive side, it can be installed by anyone. The degree of difficulty is zero.
This guy is an, I believe, compensated spokesman for these products. The companies are trying to expand into the residential market and using this video for that. It's why weight, shear, and price are left unmentioned.
Frank, Yes we were paid to shoot this video but the product is intended for Commercial buildings. Those structures don’t need shear value. They need fire resistance and an air and water barrier. Thanks for watching
Silicone not silicon
The real reason we still see homes built from wood with yet another product to protect wood, is because industry makes more money selling these complex systems, and repairing the damage wood incurs if water looks at it, if fire touches it, or if there is more wind than would be produced by an asthmatic blowing at the house through a straw! I see another product for dealing with water, air sealing, mold proofing... I ask myself; why are we still building with wood in the U.S? It's mind boggling that we still use a water sensitive, insect sensitive, mold sensitive, fire sensitive material to protect us from all of the above!! With the presence of ICF's, insulated styrofoam concrete and other building material we should be pushing for new homes to be built from these materials. Concrete derived homes such as ICF and foam concrete as well as steel framed homes are far more durable, reliable, stronger, more insulating, without the need of the many systems and layers needed with the current state. While the rest of the world, much of which with even colder weather climate than north America, have been building using concrete with even more efficient homes. We have been inventing one "system" after another with ever increasing complexity just to keep using wood as our building material. We have to deal with it's sensitivity in something that should not be sensitive (homes and buildings)... In fact, we are at a level where we are inventing systems just to treat another system with ever increasing complexity, cost, trades needed and time. Wood framed houses and wood sheathed homes need to go, the marginally increased cost upfront pays for itself in just a few years.
HA HA HAHAHA ITS CAULKING ????!!!!!!!
Duct tape and CAullking.....hhahahaha
Yea I bet the contractor will pay you for all the extra time we subs spend doing this shit... you'll get tyvak unless you fork out by the board price
Your wife likes to make pastries and cupcakes with lots of creamy icing, bring her with you to the building site, the new ExoAir340, hehehehe 🏗👷♀️🎂😳🤘😊
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Instead of squeeze tube why not buckets and just trowel it.
Waste of time squeezing then troweling.
Then he presses with his finger on the"expansion joint"
Why not a roller.
Dang he's applying that thick.
Must be a tube salesman.
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1:52 just let's the board drop like....okay I'm through with paying the price of fiberglass covered residential sheathing.
I'm dropping this crap and I'm gonna start using commercial for two reasons.
One it's going to be better which the price compared to residential highline products makes sense......bam, the residential gypsum hits the dirt...or maybe he's getting out of residential building and going to sell off his residential side for a royalty fee and build up his commercial side.
This is stupid. Do you really think that caulk and fluid applied " membrane" is going to protect sheet rock from water damage when you're using it as sheathing. And yes, fiber glass covered sheet rock is still sheet rock. I predict that with in 20 years this garbage that is being used to sheath your customers buildings is going to start to incur massive repair costs.
I'm not sheathing a new residential build with glorified sheetrock.
Building Science and material development continue to develop in response to all the failed buildings around the country - residential and commercial. Exterior sheathing such as USG's Securock have been installed for close to two decades on buildings designed to last for 100 years +; like your local Hospital, University and all Government buildings. To my knowledge wood is a great food source for mold, rodents and pests, so maybe it is time to start considering an alternate material?
Drywall on the outside of a building yeah that will last a lifetime lol maybe the lifetime of a rat. OMG.