Thank you so much for doing this,finally puts and end to the 300 2t vs 450 4t battle..and you guys with 125 claiming to make 45hp shut your ass up and go drive your chainsaws somewhere else.
Actually, a tuned 125 mx bike can put down 40-45hp at the wheel, but they have literally zero torque and power in low and mid rpm range.. This is an enduro bike, tuned for the mid rpm range, and not for the peak power. HP is a thing, engine characteristic is more important for what you will use ur bike.
It does have 10hp more -at the crank. They are measuring it by the wheel. Impressive power! Graham Jarvis says he makes all modifications outside the motor -Jarvis said his is basically stock, but with top shelf suspension, tires etc. protective components, and exhaust kit...everything else stays the same. Other channels hit 53 on the dyno...makes sense that your hp losses like friction & heat loss etc would dwindle the power to 10hp less at the wheel. Graham is NO slouch! A straight BEAST, so you know the TE300i is one of the motherships of the offroad smokers... Look at how many titles Graham has one from husky/Berg - slow to start most of the time, however he starts roosting on everyone, one by one, while he "warms up" with the trusted TE, and usually distances himself quite far while in the lead from the other riders with this extraordinary bike. I can attest while I rode it, that it is 'hands down" one of the smoothest rides of 2020 and eternity! Ya got EVERYTHING loaded on this baby maker, ass shaker, swift as paper, known as the "Racer Raper," nuclear woods weapon and life saver, elite Husqvarns TE300i machine. Truly, if you are still reading this, I consider this bike to be in my top 5. I OWN one (I own TWO technically cause I got the TE150i for her and ride it alot too hehe). They are nimble, powerful, comfortable, planted, and technologically advanced. Im fascinated at the beauty of craftsmanship and engineering design everyday while I take a thousand or two peaks at the machine that Husky expertly assembled and crafted to be reliable, comfortable, efficient, and playful - yes, the adrenaline & epinephrine pumping, blasting through time itself through portals in the forest kind of playful. ;) 💪 AND NO, Im not comparing it to a maxed out Honda CRF450R of RX in terms of speed, so don't be coming at me with those dick measuring, competition, bullshit!!! Every bike has its own type of speed, and has their own perks, design, and engine attitude. I appreciate and RESPECT all!
Jonathon Davis your comment just sold me a bike 😅 do you have experience with the 250 as well? Right now I own a Beta 300. I am thinking of going ti250 next.
2 stroke fanboy here. Maybe with a top end pipe it may get some more hp, but then you lose the point of having a 300 enduro. The main reason is just the ease of maintenance, money no option the 4 stroke is better
@@kaisuhina8024 Well sure on every bike nowadays the pipe is restrictive. It is the TE model aswell which isnt the most aggressive. But 10 more hp is almost 54 to the rear wheel thats a little over doing it. Defintly could get close to 50 but cr 500 was making 55 stock so 54 is alot.
Even on a carb bike it's not that bad either. If you run a 2-stroke with NO oil, it still takes about half an hour for the existing oil to completely go away; meaning that in the first few seconds you've still got full oil coverage in the engine. It's not being replenished, but it's still there in quantity. If you want proof that it's not a problem, watch a 2-stroke road-racing bike. They are either wide open at full RPM, or they're engine braking at full RPM into braking zones. Carb and premix, engine braking at 14k and downshifting to hold it there. Not a problem. This whole ballyhoo about engine braking came from old European 2-stroke cars where you might crest the top of a mountain pass and then engine-brake for a solid 15 minutes or more. Under that circumstance, you will definitely have issues with oil migration, especially given the quality of the oil used by microcar owners in the 1950s. If engine braking creates any wear at all to your dirt bike, your engine was doomed regardless.
@@JETZcorp I have seized a banshee doing 3 top speed runs in a row engine braking each time from 6th to 1st. I was surprised how the engine locked up when I was off the throttle. Then I was reading that Grand Prix engineers had this problem they could not overcome saying that 90% of the engine wear occured when suddenly shutting off the throttle at high rpm. I guess now in 2020 people on CZcams know better than engineers knew back in 2011
@@VitaliyKhomich It's worth noting that if you run your engine like a road race engine, you need a road race oil mix, which is about double the oil that most use off road. Oil migration in an engine is a function of individual cylinder displacement and RPM. Doing three top speed runs in a row means that if your oil mix was at a ratio reasonable for other types of riding, that you may well have depleted the oil film in the crankcase, which is what saves you on deceleration. Most people most of the time are using more oil than they need. Incidentally, my information comes from Harry Klemm, who is one of the top builders of 2-stroke PWC engines and who was the chief engine tuner for Rex Staten and later for the DG motocross team. From my perspective, you also look like some rando on the internet. So we should probably confine the conversation to ideas and not try to pretend that we know about the others' sources.
KTM/Husky guys trash every other brand for HP and weight, then get pissed off when somebody actually dyno's and weighs their bikes and shows them the truth.
This is rwhp not at the flywheel plus their dyno does put out slightly lower numbers than others for some reason but it's only a couple of hp. Even the 450mx bikes only just crack 50hp on this dyno compared to manufacturers 60-63hp at the engine claims
@@tcmx712 Then probably about the same power, it is true tho that a 2001 has a narrower power band, enduro bikes back then were pretty much MX bikes with lights
No sir, this is independently oil injected. *IF* this were a carburetor instead of oil/fuel injection you would be right, though even with pre-mix bikes there is a period of deceleration the residual oil in the crank case can compensate for (read throttle closed, so little new oil flow)
No, even if it was a carbureted bike you would not be right. Oil in a 2-stroke engine has roughly a 3-minute migration half-life. Meaning that after 3 whole minutes of receiving no oil, the engine would still have about half of the oil it did under normal conditions. So ten seconds isn't going to be a problem unless you were already severely under-lubricated or were seconds from seizing anyway. One thing most people don't realize is that most oil injection systems actually provide LESS oil at closed-throttle than premix does, because it's closed- and low-throttle conditions that most often lead to loading up and plug fouling. I know at least some snowmobiles are set to inject zero oil at closed-throttle for this reason.
This bike sounded cold to me
Was surely misfiring?!
Don’t stop with the 2 strokes pulls 🙌🏼
Yessss more 2strokes!!!!!! Thank you!!
That torque curve is glorious
2010 Husaberg TE 300 Dyno Test
2020 Beta 300 RR Dyno Test
2020 Husqvarna TX 300i Dyno Test
2021 Husqvarna TE 300i Dyno Test
2020 KTM 300 XC-W Dyno Test
2020 Sherco 300 SE Dyno Test
Don’t stop there. Show us the path to get more power!
2020 Rieju MR300 Dyno Test
Oh I totally love that engine break , sweet
It is fuel injected
Regardless fuel injected or not , absolutely no need to engine break a 2 stroke or full throttle it on a cold engine
@@robhayter484 1. engine was warm
2. enduros/dirtbikes dont care about engine brake, they are ment to be riden like that
@@robhayter484 confident ignorance, i love it.
@@andygilliland if you going to engine brake buy a 4stroke 🤷♂️
sound like it's cold engine
what temperature of engine?
True!
Lo sullo seria ver la prueba con motor caliente
Cold AF
Thank you so much for doing this,finally puts and end to the 300 2t vs 450 4t battle..and you guys with 125 claiming to make 45hp shut your ass up and go drive your chainsaws somewhere else.
Actually, a tuned 125 mx bike can put down 40-45hp at the wheel, but they have literally zero torque and power in low and mid rpm range.. This is an enduro bike, tuned for the mid rpm range, and not for the peak power. HP is a thing, engine characteristic is more important for what you will use ur bike.
@@SKKTeam facts
A 125 is faster than a 250 tho
Yz250 48hp yz125 32hp your welcome. If ain't 2 stroke ain't worth riding
2020 TM Racing EN300Fi ES Dyno Test
Love it!
Do a yz250X please
1977 Bultaco Pursang 200 Dyno Test
Do a Sherco SE 300 please
2020 KTM 300 EXC Dyno Test
how much power does the husqvarna te 150 i?
Warm the bike up a little it's a 2 stroke lol
I don’t care what bike is on that thing, it’s always awesome to hear them scream. 👍✌️
2020 Husqvarna TE 300i Rockstar Edition Dyno Test
2013 Husqvarna WR 250 Dyno Test
*Vähä kylmäl koneel huudatusta ja sit moottorijarrua🤤🤤👍❤️*
2020 GasGas EC 300 Dyno Test
how about the 2021 TX300i?
how about the yz250x?
What was the top speed?
Lean carburation+Cold engine
This bike should be making 10 hp more. No point of doing dyno video of restricted Te 300
It does have 10hp more -at the crank. They are measuring it by the wheel. Impressive power! Graham Jarvis says he makes all modifications outside the motor -Jarvis said his is basically stock, but with top shelf suspension, tires etc. protective components, and exhaust kit...everything else stays the same. Other channels hit 53 on the dyno...makes sense that your hp losses like friction & heat loss etc would dwindle the power to 10hp less at the wheel. Graham is NO slouch! A straight BEAST, so you know the TE300i is one of the motherships of the offroad smokers...
Look at how many titles Graham has one from husky/Berg - slow to start most of the time, however he starts roosting on everyone, one by one, while he "warms up" with the trusted TE, and usually distances himself quite far while in the lead from the other riders with this extraordinary bike. I can attest while I rode it, that it is 'hands down" one of the smoothest rides of 2020 and eternity! Ya got EVERYTHING loaded on this baby maker, ass shaker, swift as paper, known as the "Racer Raper," nuclear woods weapon and life saver, elite Husqvarns TE300i machine.
Truly, if you are still reading this, I consider this bike to be in my top 5. I OWN one (I own TWO technically cause I got the TE150i for her and ride it alot too hehe).
They are nimble, powerful, comfortable, planted, and technologically advanced. Im fascinated at the beauty of craftsmanship and engineering design everyday while I take a thousand or two peaks at the machine that Husky expertly assembled and crafted to be reliable, comfortable, efficient, and playful - yes, the adrenaline & epinephrine pumping, blasting through time itself through portals in the forest kind of playful. ;) 💪
AND NO, Im not comparing it to a maxed out Honda CRF450R of RX in terms of speed, so don't be coming at me with those dick measuring, competition, bullshit!!! Every bike has its own type of speed, and has their own perks, design, and engine attitude. I appreciate and RESPECT all!
Jonathon Davis your comment just sold me a bike 😅 do you have experience with the 250 as well? Right now I own a Beta 300. I am thinking of going ti250 next.
Looks like this guy broke into a random shed and discovers a bike , mmmmmm what does this thing do.... FEEL FOR THE BIKE...
Cunto es tacometro 100 /200
a 125 gets to 30hp so why it ain't 60hp? sounds like it's ready to do 20.000 miles
Because the 300 is completly different. Way less RPMs and made for a nice drivability
Nice! I believe this motor is easily capable of 10 more horsepower! 🏁
Or you 2 stroke guys needa realize there not as much hp as you think
2 stroke fanboy here. Maybe with a top end pipe it may get some more hp, but then you lose the point of having a 300 enduro. The main reason is just the ease of maintenance, money no option the 4 stroke is better
@@christiansoto5065 the stock pipe is restrictive.
@@kaisuhina8024 Well sure on every bike nowadays the pipe is restrictive. It is the TE model aswell which isnt the most aggressive. But 10 more hp is almost 54 to the rear wheel thats a little over doing it. Defintly could get close to 50 but cr 500 was making 55 stock so 54 is alot.
@@christiansoto5065 55hp on the rearwheel is no problem with the right parts.
Yz250x please 🙏
Cr500
Say no to 2 stroke engine breaking, don't be this guy.
2 stroke engine breaking is only for noobs
its tpi, does not matter. carb ones suffer greatly from engine brake.
Even on a carb bike it's not that bad either. If you run a 2-stroke with NO oil, it still takes about half an hour for the existing oil to completely go away; meaning that in the first few seconds you've still got full oil coverage in the engine. It's not being replenished, but it's still there in quantity. If you want proof that it's not a problem, watch a 2-stroke road-racing bike. They are either wide open at full RPM, or they're engine braking at full RPM into braking zones. Carb and premix, engine braking at 14k and downshifting to hold it there. Not a problem. This whole ballyhoo about engine braking came from old European 2-stroke cars where you might crest the top of a mountain pass and then engine-brake for a solid 15 minutes or more. Under that circumstance, you will definitely have issues with oil migration, especially given the quality of the oil used by microcar owners in the 1950s. If engine braking creates any wear at all to your dirt bike, your engine was doomed regardless.
@@JETZcorp I have seized a banshee doing 3 top speed runs in a row engine braking each time from 6th to 1st. I was surprised how the engine locked up when I was off the throttle. Then I was reading that Grand Prix engineers had this problem they could not overcome saying that 90% of the engine wear occured when suddenly shutting off the throttle at high rpm. I guess now in 2020 people on CZcams know better than engineers knew back in 2011
@@ThePadafluk I hope they have figured it out with tpi
@@VitaliyKhomich It's worth noting that if you run your engine like a road race engine, you need a road race oil mix, which is about double the oil that most use off road. Oil migration in an engine is a function of individual cylinder displacement and RPM. Doing three top speed runs in a row means that if your oil mix was at a ratio reasonable for other types of riding, that you may well have depleted the oil film in the crankcase, which is what saves you on deceleration. Most people most of the time are using more oil than they need.
Incidentally, my information comes from Harry Klemm, who is one of the top builders of 2-stroke PWC engines and who was the chief engine tuner for Rex Staten and later for the DG motocross team. From my perspective, you also look like some rando on the internet. So we should probably confine the conversation to ideas and not try to pretend that we know about the others' sources.
Wouldn’t let this guy touch my bike even if he paid me
Haven’t heard of dyno tuning huh?
@@INDRAC0WETRUST are you thick ?
TE = enduro. Le versioni TC / SX hanno ben altri numeri
a yz 250 have 46 hp
48*
😱
Suzuki RM 250, 55 hp !!!
Man that compression braking makes me cringe...
100% agree. still a great video though!
Lack of knowledge and Soap Boxing this myth makes the rest of us cringe
dude that shit is injection, you can engine brake as much as you want beacause it gets fuel by rpm not by gas
Lots of stutter and burble, not good
KTM/Husky guys trash every other brand for HP and weight, then get pissed off when somebody actually dyno's and weighs their bikes and shows them the truth.
my 690smrc makes only 82hp so doesnt come even close + the roque at low range, good luck chainsaws lol
Wtf a my 300er win vs your Containership
@@robin3868 by frequent blow up ?
@@paul1e wtf did u do to ur bike
@@pushies5 changed camshaft and kn filter, its 2015 model
@@paul1e bull shit!
My stock 2001 Husqvarna WR 250 makes more power than a 2020 300
This is rwhp not at the flywheel plus their dyno does put out slightly lower numbers than others for some reason but it's only a couple of hp. Even the 450mx bikes only just crack 50hp on this dyno compared to manufacturers 60-63hp at the engine claims
Your 2001 will drink more than this,a lot more :)
@@tcmx712 Then probably about the same power, it is true tho that a 2001 has a narrower power band, enduro bikes back then were pretty much MX bikes with lights
@@ady23nos It is quite thirsty... About 10L/100km, and it only drinks 98 octane gas, so quite expensive also, but man it is a fun bike
Armand Lopes Rosell my 1996 TM125 made 40hp.
Weak 300
Why is this guy full throttling the bike when it’s cold ? Completely melt
Omg that engine braking will destroy that motor
No sir, this is independently oil injected. *IF* this were a carburetor instead of oil/fuel injection you would be right, though even with pre-mix bikes there is a period of deceleration the residual oil in the crank case can compensate for (read throttle closed, so little new oil flow)
No, even if it was a carbureted bike you would not be right. Oil in a 2-stroke engine has roughly a 3-minute migration half-life. Meaning that after 3 whole minutes of receiving no oil, the engine would still have about half of the oil it did under normal conditions. So ten seconds isn't going to be a problem unless you were already severely under-lubricated or were seconds from seizing anyway. One thing most people don't realize is that most oil injection systems actually provide LESS oil at closed-throttle than premix does, because it's closed- and low-throttle conditions that most often lead to loading up and plug fouling. I know at least some snowmobiles are set to inject zero oil at closed-throttle for this reason.
Worst dyno ever
Sounds like garbage