From Ronaldo’s Replacement to MLS reject: The strange story of Gabriel Obertan
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2024
- When Cristiano Ronaldo left Manchester United in 2009, Sir Alex Ferguson then had a very difficult task on his hands: find a replacement for the Portuguese winger. The first attempt came by way of young French attacker Gabriel Obertan, whom United signed from FCG Bordeaux at the recommendation of Laurent Blanc.
With Obertan, Manchester United didn’t get much from the young attacker. In fact, he played about as many matches for their reserve side as he did for the first team before moving on to Newcastle United. After touring Europe, he now plays in the USA… but he’s not playing in MLS. He’s playing in the 3rd tier of US Soccer.
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Man, there's a guy I haven't thought of in a while.
Meet him at a resort in Bali a few years ago. Almost mistook him for a worker at the hotel 😅 Nice guy though!
Disrespectful to Wes Brown. He was a solid defender and great professional. Only reason he struggled after United was due to injuries and age.
Also his dad died and soon after his sister died during childbirth…
That this guy thinks he was a poor player just makes me doubt anything else he says. Brown was a good player, versatile and decent on the ball too.
Brown was a decent defender on his day both cb and rb, and I'm a Liverpool fan saying this
@@AmaraEmersonThis guy knows literally nothing about football. Brown was a very solid premier league defender and a valuable part of some successful years at Man Utd. I've heard people who watched him live talk about how blistering quick he was.
@@joblakelisbon “this guy literally knows nothing about football.”
I don’t agree with his assessment on Wes Brown, but come on. He definitely strikes me as a person who lives and breathes football, he’s a Benfica fan but he definitely follows football from other leagues.
I remembered this guy. I remember his debut against Newcastle. First touch, commentator says "and hes off the ground running", then Obertan dribbled the ball out of play and that about summed things up to today for Manchester United.
just needed more time
He was world class on FM
I think it was Sunderland in October 2009, Newcastle were in the Championship that year.
Man you cannot fool me. That's literally Richard Jefferson 😂😂
Who the fuck is Richard Jefferson
Its wild how many of these random players Sir Alex made work 😂,i can see why Manchester United was completely not prepared for life after him lmao they got too comfy with him performing miracle's with just a few stars but so many average players who padded his title winning team's. Great watch and storytelling as always 👊🏿
Worst succession planning ever - let Sir Alex and David Gill leave in one go. Should be taught in MBA class on what not to do.
@@Strafuzz 💯💯💯
Valencia was a great signing. He was quick and incredibly strong. Michael Owen was a free transfer I believe. Former Ballon D'Or winner and beloved in an England shirt (see Argentina v England 1998, Germany v England 2001). Even a Manchester United squad can't be every one a superstar. Obertan was a product of Clairefontain that had produced World Cup and European Championship winning teams. Never a direct replacement for Ronaldo though. Also, why is Wes Brown featured at the start of the video? Wes Brown was an excellent, classy central defender. Comparing him alongside Obertan or Kleberson is a ridiculous juxtaposition. Brown was injury prone, but he was a true United player. I can't take American CZcams seriously when they have such gaps in their knowledge and very odd interpretations of players and events that we saw with our own eyes.
Calm down it's youtube video about football. 😊
Facts the Wes Brown disrespect is frustrating.
All these vids are just blah blah, like most Football CZcamsrs. No actual substance
Probably showing wes brown because he was in the news for declaring bankruptcy a few years back. He was a decent player though
He's not american so.. guess you need to not be taken that seriously either?
Would love to see something similar on Lazar Markovic. He was so highly rated but sunk.
Good shout
I think Markovic was signed alongside another Serbian young talent, I can't remember his name
I forget which top manager said he was the best young player he ever saw
@@abcdefgh-hy9opBrendan Rodger’s
Markovic didn't get much of a chance for 4 or 5 years tbh
I always loved watching him while he was at United. He clearly had that raw spark about him, it’s a pity that his career fell short of everyone’s expectations. He clearly suffered with self belief and that was always clear to see whenever he played in the premier league
Loved the message at the end of the video. It's so easy for us as fans to critique a players career without having any idea what it's like to play at the highest level. Most of us can only dream of playing football as our job.
I'd also love to see a similar video on the career of Robinho, as he was such an exciting player back in the day
Team R on fifa street was just stupid dumb, Ronaldinho Robino Ronaldo Roony and Ribery
Mans doing well in prison FC(Unless I am mixing him up with some other overrated brazilian).
@@ryanergo754I think you’re thinking of Dani Alves who is definitely not overrated. He was a very great player but, not a good person. He raped a woman in a night club in Barcelona. Robinho is also guilty of rape in Italy but, he fled back to Brazil before being arrested.
Robinho was one of my favorite players when I was a kid, now I feel disappointed because of what he did off the pitch.
I mean the only reason he was even considered a “Ronaldo replacement” was because of Peak Glazernomics. We sold Ronaldo for 80m and replaced him with Owen, Obertan and Valencia 😭😭
It’s no surprise we are struggling post Sir Alex, the Glazers have never had a clue what they are doing in the transfer market.
The premise of this video is misleading, Valencia was the Ronaldo replacement, NOT OBERTAN. That was clear from the start.
Wes Brown was a baller, injuries just hampered him.
My favourite is still Djemba Djemba, so good they named him twice
Obertan and Tosic. Eventually Valencia was the Ronaldo Replacement .
Remember the "double signing" of Tosic and Adem Ljajić, but Llajic never actually did join
Nani
He had alot of potential, he was raw
mocking wes browns ability shows you know fuck all about football . glad we got to that so early in the video.
Amazing these American clowns make videos on a sport when they've barely watched a game live.
@@joblakelisbon He’s born and raised in Canada (he’s of Portuguese origin) and is a Benfica fan (he also watches Pacific FC as he was born and raised in Victoria, a Canadian west coast city), so calling him an American is just dead wrong.
He sure watches a lot of football, but his commentary can be wrong from time to time, which happens.
You gotta feel for the guy man, getting a dream move and not being able to do what you dreamed off as a child. Glad to hear he still plays tho.
If United actually cared about the footballing side at that time, they couldve simply asked Real Madrid for Robben and Sneijder in exchange for CR7. This would've solved 2 main problems...but, no...the Glazers wanted to gulp up the Ronaldo money and they hid behind Fergie when it came to the terrible business they did in 2009...signing Valencia, Obertan and Owen is hardly inspiring after selling your best player not to mention Giggs and Scholes were getting up there in age too. If you look back at it now, you see and realise that SAF had a bit of a part to play in United's downfall...he was probably the most powerful man in English football at that time and if he wanted he could've driven the Glazers out with a single press conference by just going Ballistic against them and letting the fans know what a mess they're creating. But, at the end of the day, money speaks and even the great man couldn't resist its lure.
Facts
Fergie didnt play with pure no. 10 like Sneijder, in fact Kagawa was the first and only no. 10 signed by him during 27 years managing United. Robben had bad injury records and rejected him before, dont think SAF took rejection kindly lol lol
Valencia is a solid signing, he might not be a trickster like CR7, but he offered speed, crossing, energy and consistency. we had our right flank covered for years until he wass gone. he also has a great professionalism over the years, he is not CR7 level, but he is solid for me.
as in for Owen, it was a gamble to see if he can regain his former self, plus he was free, and not to mention that special last goal he scored against Man City, that goal alone make it worth it to sign him.
as in for Obertan... let just say he was signed in case Valencia get injured.
Now look at them from bringing up players from there youth system to buying guys that are bang average Antony and Harry maguire for 80 plus million each ..spending crazy money now the keeper 🫣 man unt always had decent goalkeepers and great striker's from the 90s now and the money there spending guy from ajax few tricks no end product no assists no goals .. 80 or 90 million something crazy who's picking these players and paying that much money days are gone from Cole York.. guys like Sheringham on the bench olly to Rooney. ruud van ..Ronaldo .. now its martial Rushford Antony big Harry maguire at the back solid 👌 all on a fortune and there shocking worst unt team iv seen was only a little kid when ferguson took charge but he made them the best team in Europe
You’re going on as if Fergie was helping himself to the Ronaldo money, regardless of how influential he was, he didn’t need to get the glazers out at the time. He always made do with what whatever little he was given focusing on the there and then. It wasn’t his responsibility to plan squad replacements 10/20 years into the future
Not sure why the edit focused on Wes Brown when you said “interesting players”. Sir Alex has gone on record saying Brown was one of the most naturally gifted defenders he’s ever scene.
Plus he assisted Ronaldo for that ‘airtime’ header in the champ league final😊
I remember Obertan. Cool name, unusual look. Fascinating player who you thought would blossom, but didn't really.
Wesley Brown is a Utd legend. 5 Premier Leagues. 2 Champions Leagues. And it goes on.
This video makes me feel nostalgic. Great job Adrian!
Barely remembered him besides the moment we signed him. Another sad story at United was Veron, I was so disappointed as a kid when it didn't work out
Wes Brown is....a terrible example of Ferguson getting a lot out of lesser talent. Extremely gifted athlete who could play as well. Called the best natural defender in the country by Ferguson, and how he does at a club like Sunderland at 32 years old is meaningless. Keep his face out your video!
Plus he assisted Ronny in the Champs League final
toons fans called him....squidward....
Nothing like sitting at a cafe in Nazaré. Checked that off my bucket list. Great video cheers!
I remembered this guy as a kid. I remember him being super fast and bald. Never saw him after that
4:32 Chamakh! A similar disappointment
How can you diss Wes Brown like that? He has 13 trophies including 2 Champs leagues he was a major part of. Only Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes have more accolades in a United Shirt. Quality RB and CB.
Remember Bebe? Furguson had purchased a few irregular players that has raisdd eyebrows.
££££££
Adrian my friend, I love the new background music!
Met him when he played for Newcastle. Nice guy tbf. Deep cut player hahaha
I live this idea, I pretty sure there are more players like him for a future video
I remember going to watch England U21s vs France U21s back maybe 2008/2009ish. Obertan was by far the best player on the pitch. Head and shoulders above everyone else. The talent was definitely there.
I made a point of following his career after that.
I wasn't surprised when Man Utd signed him but his career just never took off as expected.
He is actually a good player if anyone is being objective. I liked him at Newcastle United, he didn't do too bad there
I knew the name from the old fifa games but didn't know this back story. It's insane to think that he was brought in after Ronaldo. That's a setup if I've ever seen one.
I recognize a portion of the music in the background. Is it a remix of Greg Cote’s Back In My Day?
You've done Wes Brown dirty there, he was genuinely class
Valencia's service to United more than evens the balance.
Interesting subject for a video good stuff
Wes Brown was a great servant of Manchester United. One of the few players I've rated despite being average at best. Gives 100% and performs very well. Don't do him dirty.
Eric Djemba-Djemba is the best mystery man.
Maaaaaan I remember when United signed him, very cool and interesting video 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
The first time I saw Oberton was at PES 2012
He even played in Levski Sofia from Bulgaria
Amazing video as per Adrian😅! I forgot this guy still exists lol😂
These are the type of players we forget and flashback to the age you are when you see them 😂😂
Do a similar video on Gai Assulin?
He was a skillful winger, fergie loved them types of players
Thank you for increasing my ball knowledge
Helluva video
Wes Brown was brilliant don’t say that about him
Bro, Wes Brown was a wicked CB
The highlight of his United career was his performance alongside Owen against Wolfsburg in the champions league
Edit, literally just said the same thing in the video
Also full credit for the Shane McMahon theme song reference.
Obertan. Good player but the problem was the position he was playing in required him to score goals but he wasn't really a goal scorer.
I’ve had to stop watching when you allude that Wes Brown was not a good player. He was a solid defender, I watched him for years.
Remember David Bellion 😂😂
I think he thought he was way better than he actually was.
Remember religiously offloading hin in fifa career mode as a Newcastle fan
back then i knew obertan wasn’t going to succeed ronaldo just by looking at the name
Djemba-Djemba, Possebon, Tosic, Bellion, Dong, Ricardo. So many discret names.
LEVSKI MENTIONED!!!
I just thought about this guy 2 days ago
Even Blanc said they couldn't get a tune outta him at Bordeaux and told Fergie this.. he was staggered united bought him
At the end of Ferguson's era he was signing random players and probably taking a pay cut on the side to sign them since he was on the way out anyways
The guy has a net worth of 5 million. His doing alright.
His
Overran was one of the worst players I’ve ever watched in a Newcastle jersey
The dark torrent 😂 if you know you know
No Newcastle fans called him obertwat
He just popped into my head at 5 past midnight lying in bed. And I thought be so good if there was a video exactly like the one you have put together who’s done the work of looking into what happened with Gabriel Obertan and present it to me
When I 1st saw League One I thought it was English League One.
While playing at United he dated a gold digger I used to go to school with who would date anyone with money, young or old. Obertan was 5 years her junior. She was not happy when he went to Newcastle branding it as some sort of ''failure'. More like being annoyed he left the area I'd say!
USL League One slander on my timeline?
Obertan play style is equal to giggs actually
Manucho the Angolan
Obertan was crap for Newcastle, used to hate watching him start over Ben Arfa under Pardew
He probably does not look back with such delusion
KAPRIAL AWBERTAN
Thing is
I watched obertan play
And I’ll tell you this
He’s a lot a better player than Anthony
That’s saying something
And I’m not over reacting
Nani was Ronaldos replacement which in hindsight didnt do him any justice bcause we expected him to be as productive as Cristiano.
Valencia was Ronaldo’s replacement
Bebè was interesting too…
why is he saying soccer like that 😂 he’s Canadian
Your remembrance of Fergie's signing history definitely seems rose-coloured. He had his fair share of signings that did not work out.
Juan Sebastian Veron -- just died at MU ... brilliant beforehand. Anderson was expensive and could not crack into the team. Massimo Taibi -- wow. Just wow. Didn't even last a handful of games. Eric Djemba Djemba?? Terrible. David Bellion?? -- The non-talented Thierry Henri. The Wilfred Zaha saga was just a terrible fiasco. What a waste. Marc Bosnich? -- another keeper who couldn't last a handful of games ... Hargreaves was great at the start but injuries turned him into a bust signing. Forlan could not find his scoring touch once signed ... then found it once he left. And the list goes on. This is just a few I can think of.
He made me stop trust complications! I remember watching him on CZcams as a young kid 😅, thinking his the next big thing ! To find out he was utter shit 🤣🤣
Poborsky guy was class but unt didnt work out.. forlan from Argentinian football to epl unt didn't work out but he went to spain world cups proved he was a goal machine even tho at unt he couldn't hit a barn door .. jordi cruyff shouldn't have went to man unt after Barcelona and good euro 96 should have went to ajax .. theres been a few guy's that flopped at unt but went else where and played well .. some were just shocking dejemba djemeba kleberson even now maguire 80 million fred and others on crazy money Antony at ajax he wasn't finished article even ajax coaches new they but yeah spent crazy money on him
Forlan is Uruguayan
@Strafuzz yeah I no came from the Argentinian league playing there scoring goals and went straight from independienti first senior contract was there back in 97 until 2002 or something.. and played about 80 games scoring just under 40 goals was a prospect to go to Europe usually river plate or boca .. guys like salas Pablo angel one from Chile other Colombia 🇨🇴 guys like aimar Saviola teves riquelme who played against forlan in Argentina to then partners in Spain playing champions league football... but alot of Uruguayan and Colombian Chile ect young talented players can go to Argentina make decent money 💰 play well get a big move .. going back to before Maradona any guy veron simone guys that impressed in Argentina 🇦🇷 get a big move to Europe and that's what happened with forlan guy never kicked a ball as a professional in Uruguay got spotted as a kid got scouted to go become a pro playing in Argentina them impressed got his move like alot of South American players that arnt Brazilian they go to the Argentinian league
He looks like Vegan Gains
Obertan was not ronaldo replacement… fuck are u talking about… obertan was a attaking mid…
Yeah an CAM who played on the wing 😎
He’s earned a living playing football for 15 years … payed to work all over the word . If anything it’s a success story
Losing Ronaldo for Obertan....the Galzier effect.
if you don’t do the ciao and salute at the end with him then what’re you doing? 🫡
Clubs like Manchester United, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, AC Milan with huge fan bases must realize that not everyone will stay if they are not very successful in the long run (most of them will support them, if they are successful). And now it's getting interesting because it works the other way round, as soon as the successes come back, they will come back... (digression, because I have a problem with what to call them, what to think about them) I know the reason why they do it, but I can't understand you, so for now what I pretend not to see or hear, but at the moment when a citizen who, in the glory days of the club I support, is also him, but a little later in very difficult times for every person associated with the club and also for the club , during a match with an eternal rival, I raise my head and, in the home sector, an ENEMY dressed in a T-shirt sings and insults my club. But today times have changed again and things are very good, even better, and I see him again, but now in my colors. So what should I do now? I can't pretend I don't see. But he is needed.
There are not enough true, loyal and devoted fans to maintain such a large institution at such a high level. When the standard drops, so will the value that comes with a position that has had many great people working in it for decades, and I really hope that eventually someone will come along who will selflessly get rid of these fucking parasites and put our beloved Manchester United back where they belong. and order. . in the hierarchy (the largest, most popular, most beautiful, most important sport discipline and its main variant or field) of club football
So, to show everyone your support, T-shirts, scarves, all kinds of clothes top to bottom , all kinds of gadgets etc. But lets faced when the main building the workplace, successful football teams factory is neglected, forgotten, it's not updated then it won't produce in level required. this means people stop watching and won't pay.
Fergie had to retire, because he couldn't find great players after C. Ronaldo and Rooney