How To Remove a Lug Nut That Will Not Come Off! Spinning, Swollen, Stripped, Seized, Rusted Ford 150

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  • Lug Nuts Not Coming Off? Swollen Capped Lug Nuts Stripped, Swollen, Spinning due to Internal Rust? This Video Explores Various Strategies to Remove Those Nuts that are Driving You Nuts! Lugs nuts comprised of two parts fused together are internally rusting causing a swelling of the chrome outer cap eventually detaching from the internal hardened metal. A nightmare to get off.
    Can't Let Her Die...DIY shows you the failed strategies and eventually the winning strategy to get those Problematic Lug Nuts Off and get you back on the road. You don't need to take it to the Dealership. You got This and Can't Let Her Die will show you the DIY so you can keep your money in your pocket!
    Come on...Let's Get'r Done...and Have Some Fun!
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    Due to factors beyond the control of Can't Let Her Die...DIY, it cannot guarantee against unauthorized modifications of this information, or improper use of this information. Can't Let Her Die...DIY assumes no liability for property damage or injury incurred as a result of any of the information contained in this video. Can't Let Her Die...DIY recommends safe practices when working with power tools, automotive lifts, lifting tools, jack stands, electrical equipment, blunt instruments, chemicals, lubricants, or any other tools or equipment seen or implied in this video. Due to factors beyond the control of Can't Let Her Die...DIY, no information contained in this video shall create any express or implied warranty or guarantee of any particular result. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from improper use of these tools, equipment, or the information contained in this video is the sole responsibility of the user and not Can't Let Her Die...DIY.
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Komentáře • 108

  • @oldbiker9739
    @oldbiker9739 Před 2 měsíci +1

    that intro sounds like a 6 volt flat head trying to start lol love it .

  • @ericb1294
    @ericb1294 Před 3 lety +13

    Gotta love using Grandpa’s tools to do a job! My grandpa was a aircraft mechanic in WWII and a bus mechanic after that and I love being able to use his tools on a job. He’s been gone for 15 years but it sure does make you feel like he’s there with you when you break out the old tool set.

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah, I do love using my Grandfather's tools. You're right, It's like he's there with me helping me out of a jam...which is nice!
      Thanks for sharing that Great comment about your Grandpa. Cheers!

  • @Bradley-Young
    @Bradley-Young Před 3 lety +14

    This made my day. Been through almost all the same steps. On my way now to get PB Blaster. Hats off to you sir! You did this with calm composure. My neighbors are hiding their kids indoors to shield them from my outbursts of profanity haha. Gotta love New England winters and road salt effects on lugs! Thanks!

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +1

      LoL... you cracked me up with that hiding their kids comment! Thanks!

    • @marshalltsien
      @marshalltsien Před rokem

      aw man, dealing with the same pain here in new england too, bahahaha , soundz like them original lug nutz r just crap imho

    • @Misty-md9ke
      @Misty-md9ke Před rokem

      ​@marshalltsien you wanna make a movie a out a girl who loves to watch a movie with the ones who tried to make a movie about trying kill

  • @mygolfswingtips
    @mygolfswingtips Před 3 lety +3

    Nice to see your tools and process of removal of a stubborn lug-nut...I will make sure to buy solid chromes for my vehicles😎

  • @southstreetbarbecue7875
    @southstreetbarbecue7875 Před 3 lety +8

    I've cracked eggs on the side of a bowl harder than you were hitting the socket with that hammer. Come on, put some hate behind those swings!
    Thanks for the video, it was fun, entertaining and educational!

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +5

      "Put some hate behind those swings!" that cracked me up! Lol ... I felt like it, but was holding back for the camera. I should've got all mean on it! Lol Thanks South Street Barbecue

    • @islami658
      @islami658 Před 2 lety

      I don’t wanna break a stud or worse the wheel

  • @butterytoast4836
    @butterytoast4836 Před rokem +2

    I ended up getting the 3/4 breaker bar and a 60 inch pipe. I have the 2 piece lug nuts on my F-150. Ended up snapping the lug nut. I get to learn how to drill out a broken lug nut now. Thankfully I don’t have a flat or need to do brakes. I was just replacing the lug nuts in advance so it’ll be a smooth job later on 🤣

  • @nickrct
    @nickrct Před měsícem +1

    my dad always told me to put some vaseline on the acorn part of lug nuts (the conical part that faces the rotors). Never had a problem in 30 yrs of working with cars.

    • @dsotojc4645
      @dsotojc4645 Před 23 dny

      Damn vaseline… can’t ever go wrong with it.

  • @russasaurous
    @russasaurous Před 3 lety +4

    I went through the same bullshit with a Buick enclave. I bought all new Lugnuts on Amazon for $25 or so… It was fun watching somebody else go through it & realizing I wasn’t the only schmuck who couldn’t figure out how to get his Lugnuts off. I even used the same sockets 😏.

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +2

      I feel your pain Russ. Lots of people are having the same problem. Some are forced to drill out the posts to get them off, which is even worse! You're not alone Pal. Cheers!

  • @wade6972
    @wade6972 Před 2 lety +1

    Lol this was like bob the builder at the beginning of the video 😂

  • @MickeyMishra
    @MickeyMishra Před 10 měsíci

    I have these on my PT cruiser. Also with the WORLDS Weakest lugs. Best day of my life was finding out how to replace them with Aftermarket lugs and Nuts. Never had a Problem since in the last 23 years.

  • @calebmack9635
    @calebmack9635 Před 3 lety +1

    Good Job Man!! Throughly enjoyed this vid!!

  • @lbecque
    @lbecque Před 3 lety +4

    Same problem with corroded two piece nuts on my Jeep and Dodge truck. Replaced every nut with DORMAN 711205 Acorn; Steel; Bulge Seat nuts which are one solid piece.

  • @cwilson9636
    @cwilson9636 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you so much for the informative tried, failure and success! I was feeling the fails and success outcome! Lol! I learned something new today on the bad lug nut at the end! Had a Aaah Haaa moment! 😁🙌

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +3

      Excellent C. Wilson. Those lug nuts are not easy. i'm glad you got it. Cheers!

  • @carolynwunsch799
    @carolynwunsch799 Před 9 měsíci

    Love the show and tell at the end. I totally understand the issue at hand. Exactly what i was looking for

  • @DynoSauR4Truth
    @DynoSauR4Truth Před rokem +2

    I just had to replace one of those Toyota lug nuts and Advance Auto had them in stock for right at $10. They are constructed the same as the ones on that Ford rim. The problem with those lug nuts is when the first tire shop uses the wrong size socket and that's when the issue first begins.

  • @lilmikerich1
    @lilmikerich1 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks a lot it worked….. Rate video 10/10

  • @MrSanpoil
    @MrSanpoil Před 2 lety +2

    I like how you were originally going to do a video about the brakes 2:20 but one lug nut cap took over the whole video lol. Plus I liked the video edits about the failed attempts 👍

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks Human...yeah, that is sort of how it goes sometimes. That lug nut took over the show. Cheers!

    • @MrSanpoil
      @MrSanpoil Před 2 lety

      @@cantletherdiediy1050 yeah that's true I watched cause I had the same issue on my sedan. I just ended up going to a tire shop to remove the nuts.

  • @johnlim6108
    @johnlim6108 Před 2 lety +3

    You are funny. Thanks for the info and laugh.

  • @kurtrindgen4708
    @kurtrindgen4708 Před 5 měsíci

    1-1/8in hole saw with the bit removed can zip those covers off in no time. Get rid of those lugs and make sure you have a socket for the one piece nuts in the car.

  • @butterytoast4836
    @butterytoast4836 Před rokem +2

    Just broke 2 breaker bars. Both 1/2 inch. Used a 4 foot pipe with it. Stepping up to a 3/4 breaker bar and going to get a longer pipe.

  • @pulse_breezeyt4467
    @pulse_breezeyt4467 Před 2 lety +6

    Unfortunately all my lug nuts are defective 😩😩😩

  • @xxsexybeastxx9919
    @xxsexybeastxx9919 Před rokem +2

    Lol bro I got hyped for him when he popped it lose 😂

  • @ashfilip7813
    @ashfilip7813 Před rokem +1

    Amazing video!! Thanks for taking the time to make it.

  • @philgoben19
    @philgoben19 Před 2 lety +3

    From experience use a 6 pointed socket and nothing less than 1/2 inch breaker bar, anything less ends in failure

  • @jaedonkondratowicz5299

    Loved the video, you covered all affordable and obtainable parts that most men have in their garage. It does look like your braker bar has seen better days, but that’s just how it goes when working on cars 10/10

  • @charliesmith9528
    @charliesmith9528 Před 7 měsíci +1

    FYI i have seen some guys using a small torch/plasma cutter to heat up cap to remove the chrome caps..saves alot of headaches,,problem is wiith applying pipe to pull bar its very possible to snap off stud,,

  • @sonicpix
    @sonicpix Před 2 lety +2

    This is exactly the problem I'm having. I used some nut removal sockets. Went from 22mm to 21mm and they worked except for one problem one. Now that this shows me what you did, I'll give it a try. Thanks

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 2 lety +2

      I'm glad my video helped you out Mark
      Cheers!

    • @sonicpix
      @sonicpix Před 2 lety +1

      @@cantletherdiediy1050 ya. It did....until I put a bar on it to crack the seal, only to break the lug nut off. But your info helped. Thanks

  • @alb12345672
    @alb12345672 Před 2 lety +1

    Going thru this with my 11 6.2 Platinum. Need to deal with a stuck brake. I think it is the hose- wheel don't have to come off yet. One sucker is all round now. That shell is a disaster.

  • @andyhyatt8104
    @andyhyatt8104 Před 8 měsíci

    yep, this happened to me. Exactly.
    Designed to fail.

  • @MrOrlandobob2
    @MrOrlandobob2 Před 2 lety

    Great job !!!

  • @jamiebyrd859
    @jamiebyrd859 Před 3 lety +5

    I feel your pain I just spent the weekend drilling out the actual studs

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +2

      Oh Man...that's not good. That would be a tough job. Luckily, I haven't had that bit of misery yet.

    • @jarmoirevans1577
      @jarmoirevans1577 Před 2 lety +1

      in the process of doin that right now

    • @XtremeChiliPepper
      @XtremeChiliPepper Před 2 lety

      @@jarmoirevans1577 On my list for tomorrow for spare tire on Jeep ... I didn't realize this was such a common thing!

  • @Loveduhmusic
    @Loveduhmusic Před 2 lety +3

    Mine is spinning in place and the mechanic put a hole into the lug still not being able to get it out.

  • @bbdano126
    @bbdano126 Před měsícem

    After rounding off the nut cover, I'd have went right to peeling that nut cover off instead of trying different size sockets.

  • @richardlong8014
    @richardlong8014 Před 2 lety +3

    Blaster always works for me if I let it soak a few minutes/days.

  • @ferg1171
    @ferg1171 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Same problem with 2010 Fussion Lug Nuts

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 2 lety +1

      Those nuts are a pain. Good Luck. I put a link to the Dorman re-engineered lug nuts. Just test the fit of the nuts on the website by plugging your vehicle info into the Amazon site. Cheers!

  • @BacaOutdoorAdventures
    @BacaOutdoorAdventures Před 3 lety +1

    I've got a 2005 Colorado 3.5L 4x4 with 277k miles and I wish I would jabe found your channel months ago

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +1

      That's a Nice Truck SoSpaded88...Enjoy the videos and Thanks for Commenting and Subscribing!

    • @danaholden3999
      @danaholden3999 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cantletherdiediy1050 ...

  • @achillesbuilds2432
    @achillesbuilds2432 Před 2 lety +2

    What a soab this is lol. I've worked on my own cars for the past 22 years and this one is a first. I have two that have sheered in half and are the aluminum 7 spline safety ones. 3 safety tools later and nothing. Extraction set and nothing. I'm currently drilling them out. I need a good set of cobalt bits. Once I get enough drilled out I'm going to grab it again with the extractor and hopefully break the stud out. I'll replace them and do a pad swap while I'm there. I will never buy cheap lugs... Ever again.

  • @johnnyboyko7844
    @johnnyboyko7844 Před měsícem

    My lug nut is spinning on lug bolt. any suggestions please

  • @leehowell1225
    @leehowell1225 Před 2 lety +1

    I tried to break loose with 1/2 pull handle and two foot breaker bar wouldn't budge , sprayed with electric cleaner and all the nuts came off with less force than before

  • @kentpowell5427
    @kentpowell5427 Před 4 měsíci

    had same issue with those nuts on a Ford Focus..

  • @QuietStormAngel
    @QuietStormAngel Před rokem

    I accidentally lowered my vehicle too low while trying to remove a spare tire that had a lugnut still in there as I lowered it …. I raised it back up so I could remove the lash lugnut and as I loosen it … It gets tighter …. How do I loosen it all the way do I can remove it

  • @bobhanson2111
    @bobhanson2111 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. Do have question and comment. Was your lug nuts 21mm? Did the 19 mm get the bad lug off without the cover off ?
    I have a 2015 Ford Edge SEL and 12 of the 20 are bad I stripped the caps off but I having heck of time getting the hard steel lugs off any suggestions?
    Thanks.

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks Bob! Have you soaked them in PB Blaster? You can use a pipe on your ratchet drive to increase your leverage to get those last puppies off. If they are stubborn, you can let the PB Blaster soak in over night. You can also heat the lug nut up with a torch and then shoot cool PB blaster on it. The rapid heating and then sudden cooling usually breaks them free. If you use heat, be sure to focus the heat on the lug nut only.Do not damage your rims with heat. Good Luck! Don't give up. You Got This!

    • @bobhanson2111
      @bobhanson2111 Před 2 lety

      Thanks for your advice. I’ll get the old Blaster out and give it a try along with pipe and breaker bar. Try the 19mm socket to remove the lug as I believe you did after watching your video a second time.

    • @bobhanson2111
      @bobhanson2111 Před 2 lety +3

      He is how I fixed the swollen lug nut problem on 2015 Ford Edge SEL. I used a 1” Hole Dozer without the Pilot Bit from Home Depot made by Milwaukee. This fits over the lug it’s a tight fit but it will cut the cap off close to where the cap is crimped to the actual lug nut. Remember it’s a two piece construction. Once the cap is off I used a 20mm Deep Impact Socket 6 point to remove the Lug Nut I the replaced all the lug with a solid chrome 19mm lug nut from Driven Product in Kent, WA GREAT customer service I spoke to Jamie who made sure I was ordering the correct replacement lug. They are made in USA.

    • @bobhanson2111
      @bobhanson2111 Před 2 lety

      Should be here is how I fixed.

    • @bobhanson2111
      @bobhanson2111 Před 2 lety

      Should say “Here I is how” Spelling correction in my comment.

  • @dianawillingham-leseberg

    Old Lady here. My nuts got swollen too (that is what the Ford Dealership told me today)! Question to all the manliness I have been watching on CZcams… did any of you manly men contact Corporate about this horrible problem? Because I do not want to be the Old Lady by the side of the road in the middle of the desert with swollen nuts! Y’all need to contact Corporate about the “swollen nut problem”. Think about your poor Granny sitting on the side of the road in a snow storm because no one can loosen her swollen nuts to change her tire. Please be the hero and contact Ford. 😮

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před rokem +2

      I believe we are heroes Diana. We are freely informing people about this problem, how to avoid it or correct it with very little expense. Ford already knows and has known for a long time. You said it yourself regarding your Ford dealership. Ford Corporate is regularly in contact with their dealerships regarding the servicing of their vehicles and investigate how and why their product fails. It's the research and development side of their business. Other companies such as Dorman also know, and have known for a long time as they have re-engineer the lug nut, manufactured it and now sell the replacement nuts to earn a profit. Mechanics also know and they charge additional labour to remove the swollen nuts and mark-up the replacement nuts to earn an additional profit. Ford Corporate, knowing about the issue, has performed a cost benefit analysis of the issue and has chosen not to issue a product recall notice. It is more profitable for them to have no response. This issue helps to generate service for their dealerships because people can not change their tires themselves. Dealerships get to charge extra labour, sell more of the same lug nuts and they earn additional profit. Did you know dealerships earn more on service than they do selling new vehicles? Ford also hires service technicians to watch internet sites, channels, videos like this one to gather information and to manage negative publicity regarding their products. I think we are heroes as we are helping people out by letting them know these lug nuts are prone to fail and suggest that they may want to change them before they do fail and leave them stranded. This information results in less profit for Ford, dealerships, mechanics, tow truck operators, auto parts retailers, and it is offered free to you. Thanks for your comment Diana, you seem to be a really caring person. I like that. Keep it up!

  • @JJ-my9uw
    @JJ-my9uw Před 3 lety +4

    The cap itself a failure! That inventor could use a lug wrench to the chin. FYI… instead of trying to pull up on the breaker bar with 200 pounds of brute force, put the bar on at the nine o’clock position and with half the effort push down.

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +5

      Using 200 Lbs of Brute Force and grunting and groaning while you do it makes for a better video. I got viewers to please. I love the "wrench to the chin" comment LoL

    • @davidpowell3347
      @davidpowell3347 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cantletherdiediy1050 also some people that weigh less than 200 can pull with 500 lbs. of force (or more in the case of some bodybuilders)

  • @ivanfernyhough3851
    @ivanfernyhough3851 Před 2 lety +1

    You think thats a problem,you should see mine on my jag.the steel nut has snapped off on mine as well.no idea how i am going to get my wheel off.2 have snapped.

  • @PatriceBoivin
    @PatriceBoivin Před 2 lety +3

    What a dumb idea the manufacturers have of putting soft metal chrome caps on lug nuts

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 2 lety +2

      I hear you Patrice. It is highly frustrating when you spend hours trying to simply remove a lug nut!

  • @justliberty4072
    @justliberty4072 Před 3 lety +2

    Are you sure those Dorman replacements are not going to rust?

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +3

      The doorman lug nuts are an engineered fixed for the defective lug nuts. They've been on for 4 months now and are looking a little dusty but no rust. Of course, I won't know for sure for another 7 years. I've bet my money that they are much better than the stock acorn cap lug nuts. Cheers!

  • @douglasumana792
    @douglasumana792 Před 3 lety +2

    Hey buddy try putting the tire on the floor I see it’s up on the rock

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +3

      It's not on a rock. The wheel is chalked to prevent movement but yes... taking it off the jack stands would help prevent wheel movement. However, it would not help with lug nut removal. The lug nut was internally seized on the stud and swollen. thanks for your comment.

  • @starvingartist6754
    @starvingartist6754 Před 2 lety +2

    Won't work for me,,,,mines rounded off on the inner but, I gotta drill mine out, my luck !

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 2 lety +1

      Rounded off on the inner hardened steel portion? ah man, that's unfortunate. Thanks for commenting and letting us know.

  • @MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName

    Those Ford acorn nuts fuse/bind to the wheel where the tapered part mates up with lug hole. Take an oversized socket that will fit OVER the lug nut that will make contact with the rim. Whack the hell out of that socket a few times, that brakes the bond between the tapered nut and wheel… now, crank that baby off, and you’re welcome

  • @davidpowell3347
    @davidpowell3347 Před 2 lety +1

    at about 3 minutes-got all but one out? Put back the two on either side and tighten reasonably before continuing to reef on the troublemaker

    • @davidpowell3347
      @davidpowell3347 Před 2 lety +1

      thought I was going to see Mr. Vicegrip appear to have a go at pulling that cap off
      when the cap is bad it lets water/salt to get in the threads but with the cap open or pulled off PB Blaster can also get to the threads!
      think tooltrucks have in between socket sizes like 18.5 or 19.5 mm. for putting on the nut when the cap is gone
      also watch out some sockets are not deep enough broach to hold the whole tall hex part of the lug even when the cap is still healthy-such shallow broach might even be on a deep impact socket
      think old Craftsman deeps had a full depth broach--maybe also Wright?

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 2 lety +1

      I hear you David, I put a link to those Dorman Re-engineered Lug nuts and have replaced all of mine.

  • @bignasty3274
    @bignasty3274 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Why would you pull up on the nut and give yourself a hernia rather than let gravity help you? You can stand on a long bar and bounce on it if you like, but never lift up.

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I enjoy the work out. Easier isn't always better. Thanks for your comment big nasty. Cheers!

  • @reddmann2216
    @reddmann2216 Před rokem

    I'd go straight to a torque multiplier myself

  • @carmeloroldan3189
    @carmeloroldan3189 Před rokem

    How about fire ????

  • @justz00t48
    @justz00t48 Před rokem

    Can't believe you just didn't buy a gator grip socket and be done with it. 🤦‍♂️

  • @ooj316
    @ooj316 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Cheap garbage lug nuts. Same on my Chrysler. Recommended to swap out at first opportunity.

  • @pantera3334
    @pantera3334 Před 3 lety +1

    There is a thing called stripper sockets,,,,,,,all im going to say,,,,,,lol

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting.
      I have used various extractor sockets for rounded off bolts and nuts. They work in some applications but not in this application. Here is a link to one of my videos where I use them
      czcams.com/video/8dPmeUDyPkE/video.html
      I also have a video discussing rounded off bolts and screws on a MGB and various extractor methods
      czcams.com/video/bT-xc9nrAA0/video.html
      Cheers!

    • @lbecque
      @lbecque Před 3 lety +2

      @@cantletherdiediy1050 You are absolutely correct! Extractor sockets don't always work. Had the same problem with those two piece nuts corroding on both my Jeep and Dodge truck. One was so bad that even the breaker bar wouldn't bust it lose no matter how much heat and oil I applied. Finally had to drill the stud and nut out.

    • @cantletherdiediy1050
      @cantletherdiediy1050  Před 3 lety +4

      @@lbecque You know it lbecque ! Those two piece lug nuts are a Royal Pain in the Butt! You can really tell those who know what they're talking about an those who just think they do.