When an apprentice in the mid 60's I made one from pipes and bits of sheet it fired OK but getting it to cycle was a problem. Back in those days the frowning on guns was not an issue. I fact Luton had a gun shop in the middle of town where I used to get my supplies. Happy days.
Wish I would have grew up in America 😒 even the rights they give to everyone in the name of fairness is another form of discrimination of others rights anymore it’s just really sad what the men in suits have done to our beautiful country
Years ago I built a non firing replica (now hanging on display in a local museum) and some old guy after looking around said "I see you have a Sten would you like an original magazine for it?" so he bought it in and it fitted in perfectly.
I think it would be a real last resort though, the material is definitely not strong enough. Mind you I think the original Sten was a bit of a last resort too.
@@nickvending9688 yeah you try and fire a genuine round through one of these and the guns gonna fkn explode lmao. That being said, wouldn’t take much to make a proper barrel, unrifled obvs but if you’re in such a shit pit that you have to convert a denix replica then i don’t think rifling is going to bother you.
@williammorris7390 yes it wouldn't end well. I did watch a video a while ago on making a rifled barrel at home, for research purposes only obviously. Not sure if a smooth bore barrel would be much less accurate than a genuine Sten gun.
@@nickvending9688 at the ranges that a sten is intended to be used i don’t think accuracy really matters, i don’t think anyones picking up a sten and trying to hit anything past 50 meters at the most.
I remember seeing these [and Sterling SMG's] when I was young growing up here in the North of Ireland, they were usually in rough shape and had been hidden or stored in less than ideal places, but they were simple and reliable, and 9mm was/is common as mud. Now as an adult I have 3 licences, including a WW2 Mosin Nagant carbine, at £1.10 per bullet its only for shooting on special occasions!
I've not handled a Sterling, always liked the look of them. Sadly there don't seem to be any replicas and the deacts are out of my price range. Yes the price of even low grade ammunition (PPU) is mad nowadays. When I first started out the price was so much less, seems we just have to accept it nowadays and be grateful the shops actually have something in stock.
@@nickvending9688 I find PPU to be OK quality-wise, either way I'll need to "invest" in a press and set of loading dies to reload my own rounds for the Mosin. Its a prety well known fact that the blasters in Starwars are just Sterling SMGs with bits stuck on, one of those things that you can never un-see once you spot it. The Stens older brother is my fav, the Lanchester SMG! basically a sten with a vented barrel shroud and a wooden stock, the design was stolen from a German WW1 gun, the MP18 and it looks IDENTICAL to the Lanchester! Funny how the iconic British Sten gun was orininally a 100% German design!:-D
I'm finding PPU a bit inconsistent at the moment. My Nagant (1927) tolerates it but it's a sod to clean afterwards. I use a secondhand Lee Classic Cast press with quick change for case sizing and a Lee Hand Press for seating. Great results without spending a fortune. The hand press is great, I can sit in the lounge building rounds. I'm trying to decide whether to do a video on reloading. I knew about Starwars (and Solo's blaster being a C96). Didn't realise the Lanchester was a copy, but hey may as well copy the Germans (maybe not the over engineered stuff though).
you used to buy flame cut parts (demilled) stens and they were super easy to weld back together and get working, I have fired such guns way back in the day in California
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated 👍🏻. I've always been curious what a Sten would shoot like and whether it would have any degree of accuracy, what was your experience like?
Would it have happened to be up in the mountains of Yosemite area? My grandfather was quite the machinist and gunsmith, and (allegedly) picked up 3 or 4 of those and did a thing that made them do a thing. Unfortunately the one that would have been passed down to me had to go away to a new home, the others who obtained one are probably long dead at this point just as my grandfather is.
Yes it seems to have a few names. Mazak, Zamak, Zinc Alloy, Rubbish soft stuff that real guns shouldn't be made from (but a few actually are...). I might have made up the last one.
I just tested my own Denix Sten Gun by placing an inert 9mm round down the chamber. The thing is, the chamber is way to big and it just falls down midway through the barrel where it becomes tighter. So you would also have to convert the barrel, make it smaller somehow (add an inner tube perhaps) and even if you did that and added a firing pin, the pressure from the cartridge going off would make the replica blow up anyway like you said in the video Great video. I subbed
Hello, thank you for your comment and thank you for subscribing, much appreciated. Glad you enjoyed the video. It was more the fact that the proper magazine will fit and the bolt will pick up a round from it that I felt needed reporting, it wouldn't be beyond a backyard engineer to make a barrel. As you say, fortunately the rest of the Denix is not strong enough to cope with 9mm rounds. I just hope no-one tries it, definitely won't end well.
@@revengefromsociety0 hello, thank you for your comment. I'm in the UK, we don't have the second amendment. Our firearms licensing laws are extremely strict, indeed you could say that less vetting goes into releasing criminals early from jail than it does into who can be granted a firearms license. Currently the application process is taking a year, in some counties even longer. So I am against anything that could cause a knee jerk overreaction that could result in banning of all firearms ownership here in the UK. Illegal conversion of a replica into a functional fully automatic sub- machine gun very much falls into that category. Consider this, in Scotland they even need a license to own sub 12ftlb air rifles, it won't be long before the rest of the UK follows suit.
Actually the gun wont blow up. The only part of the gun that would blow if you tried doing what youre talking about is the barrel assembly. If for whatever reason someone wanted to convert this to an actual STEN, theyd have to get a few parts as well as cutting the front of the replica off just a little past the front sight where the cooling guard meets the receiver. The only part of the gun that contains the bullet when firing the round is the barrel trunion which is where all the pressure from said bullet gets exerted onto the barrel. If this is made of something other than steel then you are really playing with fire as if this explodes with the weapon then the gun blows up. This is why you can get away with using aluminum or even polymer upper and lower receivers with AR patterned rifles because the trunion is what really does the dangerous work. Everything else is just there to hold all the parts and guide the bolt. I wont give what parts are needed as you can search the internet as there are companies out there that produce parts for STEN's as people buy STEN kits that include everything except for the receiver tube. Its then up to the customer as to what they want to build. Most places are going to show how to build a semi auto as here in the US, owning a full auto gun without proper license and paperwork is a felony that can land you in Federal Prison.
My concern was whether the zinc alloy receiver and bolt assembly would take the recoil from a 9mm, I could foresee damage to the rear of the receiver and the bolt - also the trigger mechanism being damaged when it is released and tries to stop the moving bolt. Personally I don't think the material of the whole gun (never mind the barrel) would be strong enough however I work in the oil and gas industry where granted most things are over specified and won't ever experience the design pressure. Plus I've never built a firearm from scratch - I'd rather not get involved with anything like that due to the laws in the UK.
The magazine will accept a full compliment of 9 mil be careful not to fill it or it becomes a hassle to retrieve the rounds. I just got one and the finish on the metal by far exceeds the appearance of the various airsoft attempts at representing this iconic weapon . Racking the bolt is very satisfying and the metal it's constructed with is very thick, this would make an excellent close quarters bludgeoner
Hello, thanks for your comment much appreciated. Does the magazine in yours have an actual magazine platform and spring then? Mine is just an outer casing. I agree, the Denix Sten is one of their best products in terms of realism.
Don’t be too picky with replicas, they are, what they are. If the welds were rough, we’d all complain it looks tacky and cheap. A real magazine fits !…great,… if it didn’t, it wouldn’t be a good replica. A screw instead of a weld blob??? Does it matter? ? Peen it over with a toffee hammer: A de-activated real sten with a working bolt would now be illegal….looks to me like a very nice replica.
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated. Don't get me wrong, it is a good replica and I like it. It isn't perfect but for display purposes it is good enough. I get what you are saying about the welds, guess it depends on your view point. To me for historic accuracy the welds should be rough. In terms of a real magazine fitting, yes they got the dimensions right but I believe it infringes our replica laws especially seeing as it will load a round into the barrel.
I wasn’t attacking your review, it’s an honest one and that’s what we want from a review. As you are aware all de-activated guns are now totally paralysed and good replicas, like yours are in the firing line( pun intended ) for the next clampdown / ban, particularly as that bolt action on your Sten is working. I have the Sten, MP 40 and two Thompson’s in Airsoft and they are excellent replicas….providing…we aren’t too critical. Take a look at the MP 40 Co2 blowback on CZcams. Full auto and legal ( for now) in the U.K. 30 x6mm bb mag in 3.5 seconds Thnx for you reply.
The deactivation laws get me down, the standard of work was pretty bad before but now they are basically butchering historical items. Ok if the gun was worn out and there are millions of them it is shameful but not the end of the world, but seeing a good genuine No.4 T after the current EU deactivation process broke my heart. I really don't understand our UK laws, you can buy a deact through the mail. Or you can buy a CO2 air gun replica of the same gun provided you show ID. But to buy a replica of the same gun, that was never a real gun and doesn't (in theory...) do much beyond cock and dry fire - you need to be a re-enactor / member of a historic group. Guess as you say they will be tying up that loose end at some point doubtless with the usual over reaction of just banning everything. I'll check out that MP40, thanks for that 👍🏻
Random question. Since you are in the uk, how did you get a 9mm I know gun laws there are crazy strict or is owning ammo legal as long as you don’t fire it
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated. The round of 9mm I used in the video is inert, so it is legal to own without a licence. You are right, the firearms laws here are pretty strict. The Police here are underfunded too, so they don't have the money to employ enough police officers on the street let alone employ enough people to keep the firearms licencing departments running properly - most of the forces are seriously behind - my local force has firearms license applications going back to 2021 that are still waiting to be processed!
Tens of thousands of surplus STEN gun kits MK2 MK3 Mk5s have been imported into to the United States over the last forty years and being Americans many were remanufactured back to functioning STEN guns which is not very difficult .The early imports of these kits were merely cut in half, so with a bit of welding.
In Canada, they had a similar problem, with an airsoft gun. It was co2 powered. The internal parts were made from real AK parts! They put a plastic nub to stop full auto. It was easy to cut off that nub with a sharp knive!@@nickvending9688
honestly it wouldn't be very wroth converting to an actual firearm seeing as you would have to find way to replace the barrel and bolt with functional ones plus it would be far cheaper and easier to make a lutty smg.
Yeah, looking back I probably overreacted a bit. Just not happy that it can take a genuine magazine and pick up a round, but hey I'm sure Denix know what they're doing 😉.
Hello, thank you for your comment. I'm surprised they are getting away with it. My Denix SMLE will only take its own magazine and my 1911 is close to accepting original magazines but importantly not quite. My concern is that the simplicity of the Sten coupled with the ability to take an original magazine and chamber a round could result in someone converting one for live fire relatively easily. Granted it would not last long, but it just takes one idiot doing something like that and it all gets ruined for the rest of us by our knee jerk society, coupled with whoever said idiot hurts in the process (hopefully just themselves).
@@nickvending9688 I heard the Lee-Enfield takes real mags. Also, there is I think a real Belgium submachine gun whose mags fit either the Denix Sten or MP40. Maybe they are doing this to appeal to the re-enactors market? You know, so they can use real mags in their replicas.
Hello, thank you for your comment. My Denix SMLE will not take genuine magazines but it is quite old. That may well be their intention, it is surprising how much a genuine magazine increases the realism of a replica.
@@nickvending9688 Also bayonets, sights, and slings! In the USA there is a company that does to Denix guns. Like you can get a Thompson with a real stock and sights. Also, de-ac collectors are buying Denix Drum mags as a real 1 is £400!
On a few websites they claim, that these aren't compatible with real mags. Do you know if they changed it in later production runs or is this just some legal disclaimer?
I've had a lot of feedback that all the Stens take genuine magazines, also that the Denix Thompson will too. There are reports that their SMLE does, however mine did not.
@@nickvending9688 Thank you! Luckily in my country thats legally not a big problem, and i've recently found four Sten mags and a mag pouch in my granddads basement, so i'm thinking of getting a Denix gun for a resistance reenactment.
@@nickvending9688 Plod - "Okay! What exactly are you doing with real STEN magazines. Inquiring minds at the station want to know..." Just kidding but the UK is rather heavy handed.
The soldier of fortune site says the replica sten they are selling cannot chamber a round but it appears to be the denix model like yours. So what they are saying is incorrect or have they released a new model that can't??
Hello, thank you for watching and thank you for your comment. I don't know if the design has been revised, although what they may be saying is that the barrel does not chamber a round because it is an oversize, so there is no actual chamber for the round to sit in. I can't find your other comment where you asked about material - I would not say that any part is strong enough, though I have been told by members of the AR-15 community that the material of the "receiver" is not relevant. Guess they don't mind their rifles being made from cheese, personally I want steel. My concern is more about a knee jerk reaction by the antis that could result in a total ban of replicas and / or increased firearms restrictions in the UK due to someone being crass enough to try converting this product to live fire.
@@nickvending9688 I am sure the gun nutters are thinking this is like a polymer gun like Glocks. "If plastic can handle it, surely Zinc Pot Metal can." Forgetting that the upper of a Glock is all metal.
It would take quite a bit of skilled machining to actually make a chamber and barrel that wouldn't explode under the stress of firing a live round. The machined steel parts would more than likely tear themselves from the cheap zinc receiver as soon as the bolt hit them. The various law makers in most countries are satisfied that these aren't readily convertible which is why the paranoid UK government lets us have them. You also need to have certain defences to buy one of these. You cant buy them in a toy shop.
I agree with you about the material, however others in the comments don't. Mainly the AR-15 brigade. The defence you refer to is pretty easy to come by. As far as I am aware a replica should not be able to accommodate a real magazine and should not be able to pick up a round from the magazine. I could be wrong. I was told that there was a CZcams video on converting a Denix to live fire, but I haven't found it.
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated 👍🏻. It is a worry. I remember that some of the early AR-15 style semi-automatic .22lr rifles had zamak receivers but I think the thickness was more and the force from the .22lr is much less than 9mm.
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated. Sorry to hear that. If the product is within warranty then personally I would send it back rather than attempting to fix it. I was talked in to trying to remove the shroud by someone in the comments, mine is also now loose however it won't come out. When I get some time to look at it I will be attempting a fix on mine, I will video the process.
Hello, thank you for your comment. The Denix magazine is just an outer shell, it has no magazine platform.The top is also oversized so a 9mm round just falls straight into it.
Hello, thank you for your comment. It isn't going to fall apart but at the same time I would not call it overly durable. It is an alloy called Mazak (also sometimes called Zamak).
@@nickvending9688 your right, but maybe you can’t have barrels and shrouds shipped to Uk? Even so I’d prefer that lacked freedom as to being a government slave to taxes and having to ask permission to literally do anything then pay a tax for that too. But hey guess freedom isn’t free as they say, you uk guys taking American refugees at the moment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honestly it isn't much better over here. The only way to get on in the UK is to not work, or be one of the super rich. Those of us that work for a living are taxed and mortgaged to the hilt, paying a fortune for everything (energy, fuel, food, supplies) and are paying for those that don't work whilst watching the super rich living lavish lifestyles and somehow avoiding paying their fair share of tax. The grass is always greener, but in the UK's case it is because someone dyed the poop green before they sprayed it over everything.
@@nickvending9688 Yeah, it wasn't pleasant and there seemed no way around it for a left hander. I fared much better at a different venue with a 12 gauge shotgun. All long in the past, a lifetime ago, but the memory sticks...
A lot of folk in the comments seem to disagree with us on that. Wouldn't want to try it due to legality and danger. I pointed it out because it could cause someone an issue because it shouldn't be able to do what it does.
@@nickvending9688 Over to the dark side. This Zinc Pot Metal Replica. Seems like many of the parts are ONE TO ONE scale. As the STEN is a crude firearm to begin with this could be demilled, the parts farmed out to various machine shops or hand fashioned from real metal, and "Johnny Cash'ed" back into a real STEN. Some of the non pressure bearing parts could be actually used as long as welds are not needed (definitely not the tube, bolt, barrel, etc). It is a virtual 3D blueprint. Bwahahahahahahahaha! (Horror movie organ music.) "Oy! I need this little figit bit er made in full carbon steel. Yeah, this is a cheap chinese part I know will break. No, it is just a bit for my bicycle. It makes it go really fast."
Just found your channel by accident, nice to see a uk based channel on this subject. I'll subscribe....BTW I enjoyed your delivery, amusing , maybe you might give my channel a look....assorted crap and me waffling on 🙂
@@nickvending9688 hello and thanks...yeh comments disappear , yes I enjoyed the way you presented things....my channel is just a middle aged bloke drinking in either a shed or loft, with militaria and often including cats and me talking crap!.....thats life!!!
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated. I was waiting for someone to mention extraction and ejection of the case. The bolt already has the basic form of the cutout for the extractor so it would be refining the cutout then adding an extractor claw and spring. Fortunately ejection would be more difficult.
Hello, thanks for your comment. It is interesting reading the comments on this video, there is a split regarding the material. Personally (as stated in the video) I agree that the material is not strong enough. Either way it shouldn't be able to take a genuine magazine and pick up a round.
Yes, but keep in mind this is a review and I'm reporting the facts. However I don't like the cast in features, would it have cost a fortune to have incorporated them as moving if not functional components?
I use them for displays and talks, for me it would be better if the cast in features actually worked. It's my personal opinion, the viewer is free to make up their own mind as to whether they can accept it.
😂 almost. The Sten rather embodies the thinking of the British military during WWII, if it is simple and cheap then churn it out regardless of whether it is fit for purpose.
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thats one of their best replicas besides the 1911
It's pretty good. Maybe a little bit too good. Definitely worth the money.
When an apprentice in the mid 60's I made one from pipes and bits of sheet it fired OK but getting it to cycle was a problem. Back in those days the frowning on guns was not an issue. I fact Luton had a gun shop in the middle of town where I used to get my supplies. Happy days.
Sadly I wasn't there to see those days and it has only gone down hill since I started shooting.
What happened to the one you made?
Wish I would have grew up in America 😒 even the rights they give to everyone in the name of fairness is another form of discrimination of others rights anymore it’s just really sad what the men in suits have done to our beautiful country
In all honesty it would not take a genius to build a sten from scratch that was the whole point of it
That's very true.
I want to purchase this replica but unfortunately I am not able to get this please help me ( from India )
I'm sorry but I can't help you.
@@chemfam5406I believe Indians can own a real one in semi auto
@munkbok hmm, might have to think about moving to India.
Years ago I built a non firing replica (now hanging on display in a local museum) and some old guy after looking around said "I see you have a Sten would you like an original magazine for it?" so he bought it in and it fitted in perfectly.
Now that's the sort of skills I wish I had. Not sure on the legality of it nowadays though.
Given the time's we're in, you never know it might come in handy.
I think it would be a real last resort though, the material is definitely not strong enough. Mind you I think the original Sten was a bit of a last resort too.
@@nickvending9688 yeah you try and fire a genuine round through one of these and the guns gonna fkn explode lmao. That being said, wouldn’t take much to make a proper barrel, unrifled obvs but if you’re in such a shit pit that you have to convert a denix replica then i don’t think rifling is going to bother you.
@williammorris7390 yes it wouldn't end well. I did watch a video a while ago on making a rifled barrel at home, for research purposes only obviously. Not sure if a smooth bore barrel would be much less accurate than a genuine Sten gun.
@@nickvending9688 at the ranges that a sten is intended to be used i don’t think accuracy really matters, i don’t think anyones picking up a sten and trying to hit anything past 50 meters at the most.
@@williammorris7390 very true
I remember seeing these [and Sterling SMG's] when I was young growing up here in the North of Ireland, they were usually in rough shape and had been hidden or stored in less than ideal places, but they were simple and reliable, and 9mm was/is common as mud.
Now as an adult I have 3 licences, including a WW2 Mosin Nagant carbine, at £1.10 per bullet its only for shooting on special occasions!
I've not handled a Sterling, always liked the look of them. Sadly there don't seem to be any replicas and the deacts are out of my price range.
Yes the price of even low grade ammunition (PPU) is mad nowadays. When I first started out the price was so much less, seems we just have to accept it nowadays and be grateful the shops actually have something in stock.
@@nickvending9688 I find PPU to be OK quality-wise, either way I'll need to "invest" in a press and set of loading dies to reload my own rounds for the Mosin. Its a prety well known fact that the blasters in Starwars are just Sterling SMGs with bits stuck on, one of those things that you can never un-see once you spot it.
The Stens older brother is my fav, the Lanchester SMG! basically a sten with a vented barrel shroud and a wooden stock, the design was stolen from a German WW1 gun, the MP18 and it looks IDENTICAL to the Lanchester!
Funny how the iconic British Sten gun was orininally a 100% German design!:-D
I'm finding PPU a bit inconsistent at the moment. My Nagant (1927) tolerates it but it's a sod to clean afterwards.
I use a secondhand Lee Classic Cast press with quick change for case sizing and a Lee Hand Press for seating. Great results without spending a fortune. The hand press is great, I can sit in the lounge building rounds.
I'm trying to decide whether to do a video on reloading.
I knew about Starwars (and Solo's blaster being a C96). Didn't realise the Lanchester was a copy, but hey may as well copy the Germans (maybe not the over engineered stuff though).
you used to buy flame cut parts (demilled) stens and they were super easy to weld back together and get working, I have fired such guns way back in the day in California
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated 👍🏻. I've always been curious what a Sten would shoot like and whether it would have any degree of accuracy, what was your experience like?
@@nickvending9688 check out this video. czcams.com/video/jt70ilN_PgU/video.html
Would it have happened to be up in the mountains of Yosemite area? My grandfather was quite the machinist and gunsmith, and (allegedly) picked up 3 or 4 of those and did a thing that made them do a thing. Unfortunately the one that would have been passed down to me had to go away to a new home, the others who obtained one are probably long dead at this point just as my grandfather is.
Had to look up what MAZAK (Brit Speak) was. Zinc Pot Metal. It does have the sound.
Yes it seems to have a few names. Mazak, Zamak, Zinc Alloy, Rubbish soft stuff that real guns shouldn't be made from (but a few actually are...). I might have made up the last one.
I just tested my own Denix Sten Gun by placing an inert 9mm round down the chamber. The thing is, the chamber is way to big and it just falls down midway through the barrel where it becomes tighter.
So you would also have to convert the barrel, make it smaller somehow (add an inner tube perhaps) and even if you did that and added a firing pin, the pressure from the cartridge going off would make the replica blow up anyway like you said in the video
Great video. I subbed
Hello, thank you for your comment and thank you for subscribing, much appreciated. Glad you enjoyed the video.
It was more the fact that the proper magazine will fit and the bolt will pick up a round from it that I felt needed reporting, it wouldn't be beyond a backyard engineer to make a barrel.
As you say, fortunately the rest of the Denix is not strong enough to cope with 9mm rounds.
I just hope no-one tries it, definitely won't end well.
@@nickvending9688 why would you even report it to the big brother? Are you against 2A (which is a human right)
@@revengefromsociety0 hello, thank you for your comment. I'm in the UK, we don't have the second amendment. Our firearms licensing laws are extremely strict, indeed you could say that less vetting goes into releasing criminals early from jail than it does into who can be granted a firearms license. Currently the application process is taking a year, in some counties even longer.
So I am against anything that could cause a knee jerk overreaction that could result in banning of all firearms ownership here in the UK. Illegal conversion of a replica into a functional fully automatic sub- machine gun very much falls into that category.
Consider this, in Scotland they even need a license to own sub 12ftlb air rifles, it won't be long before the rest of the UK follows suit.
Actually the gun wont blow up. The only part of the gun that would blow if you tried doing what youre talking about is the barrel assembly. If for whatever reason someone wanted to convert this to an actual STEN, theyd have to get a few parts as well as cutting the front of the replica off just a little past the front sight where the cooling guard meets the receiver. The only part of the gun that contains the bullet when firing the round is the barrel trunion which is where all the pressure from said bullet gets exerted onto the barrel. If this is made of something other than steel then you are really playing with fire as if this explodes with the weapon then the gun blows up. This is why you can get away with using aluminum or even polymer upper and lower receivers with AR patterned rifles because the trunion is what really does the dangerous work. Everything else is just there to hold all the parts and guide the bolt. I wont give what parts are needed as you can search the internet as there are companies out there that produce parts for STEN's as people buy STEN kits that include everything except for the receiver tube. Its then up to the customer as to what they want to build. Most places are going to show how to build a semi auto as here in the US, owning a full auto gun without proper license and paperwork is a felony that can land you in Federal Prison.
My concern was whether the zinc alloy receiver and bolt assembly would take the recoil from a 9mm, I could foresee damage to the rear of the receiver and the bolt - also the trigger mechanism being damaged when it is released and tries to stop the moving bolt.
Personally I don't think the material of the whole gun (never mind the barrel) would be strong enough however I work in the oil and gas industry where granted most things are over specified and won't ever experience the design pressure. Plus I've never built a firearm from scratch - I'd rather not get involved with anything like that due to the laws in the UK.
The magazine will accept a full compliment of 9 mil be careful not to fill it or it becomes a hassle to retrieve the rounds. I just got one and the finish on the metal by far exceeds the appearance of the various airsoft attempts at representing this iconic weapon . Racking the bolt is very satisfying and the metal it's constructed with is very thick, this would make an excellent close quarters bludgeoner
Hello, thanks for your comment much appreciated.
Does the magazine in yours have an actual magazine platform and spring then? Mine is just an outer casing.
I agree, the Denix Sten is one of their best products in terms of realism.
Don’t be too picky with replicas, they are, what they are. If the welds were rough, we’d all complain it looks tacky and cheap. A real magazine fits !…great,… if it didn’t, it wouldn’t be a good replica. A screw instead of a weld blob??? Does it matter? ? Peen it over with a toffee hammer: A de-activated real sten with a working bolt would now be illegal….looks to me like a very nice replica.
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated. Don't get me wrong, it is a good replica and I like it. It isn't perfect but for display purposes it is good enough.
I get what you are saying about the welds, guess it depends on your view point. To me for historic accuracy the welds should be rough.
In terms of a real magazine fitting, yes they got the dimensions right but I believe it infringes our replica laws especially seeing as it will load a round into the barrel.
I wasn’t attacking your review, it’s an honest one and that’s what we want from a review. As you are aware all de-activated guns are now totally paralysed and good replicas, like yours are in the firing line( pun intended ) for the next clampdown / ban, particularly as that bolt action on your Sten is working. I have the Sten, MP 40 and two Thompson’s in Airsoft and they are excellent replicas….providing…we aren’t too critical. Take a look at the MP 40 Co2 blowback on CZcams. Full auto and legal ( for now) in the U.K. 30 x6mm bb mag in 3.5 seconds
Thnx for you reply.
The deactivation laws get me down, the standard of work was pretty bad before but now they are basically butchering historical items. Ok if the gun was worn out and there are millions of them it is shameful but not the end of the world, but seeing a good genuine No.4 T after the current EU deactivation process broke my heart.
I really don't understand our UK laws, you can buy a deact through the mail. Or you can buy a CO2 air gun replica of the same gun provided you show ID. But to buy a replica of the same gun, that was never a real gun and doesn't (in theory...) do much beyond cock and dry fire - you need to be a re-enactor / member of a historic group.
Guess as you say they will be tying up that loose end at some point doubtless with the usual over reaction of just banning everything.
I'll check out that MP40, thanks for that 👍🏻
Pretty cool nick 👍🏻
Thanks John, much appreciated 👍🏻
Random question. Since you are in the uk, how did you get a 9mm I know gun laws there are crazy strict or is owning ammo legal as long as you don’t fire it
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated. The round of 9mm I used in the video is inert, so it is legal to own without a licence.
You are right, the firearms laws here are pretty strict. The Police here are underfunded too, so they don't have the money to employ enough police officers on the street let alone employ enough people to keep the firearms licencing departments running properly - most of the forces are seriously behind - my local force has firearms license applications going back to 2021 that are still waiting to be processed!
This is such a nice gun and a good review
Thank you for your comment, much appreciated 👍🏻. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Tens of thousands of surplus STEN gun kits MK2 MK3 Mk5s have been imported into to the United States over the last forty years and being Americans many were remanufactured back to functioning STEN guns which is not very difficult .The early imports of these kits were merely cut in half, so with a bit of welding.
It's always surprising what happens to the UK's surplus military weapons and where they end up.
In Canada, they had a similar problem, with an airsoft gun. It was co2 powered. The internal parts were made from real AK parts! They put a plastic nub to stop full auto. It was easy to cut off that nub with a sharp knive!@@nickvending9688
My Sten MKII. My Son and I shooting it. It was made from an imported Sten parts kit.
czcams.com/video/5ZVbXqXgCck/video.htmlsi=voBLP7C3NoSXIARV
I bought one then bought a MK2 Skeleton stock from the U.K...Much better looking....
Hello Phil, thank you for commenting much appreciated.
Check out video NV101 for more Denix Sten content.
All the best
Nick
Jeep sud est here in France make it one in full steel 100 % and disasemble and work like à real one
Sounds great 👍🏻
honestly it wouldn't be very wroth converting to an actual firearm seeing as you would have to find way to replace the barrel and bolt with functional ones plus it would be far cheaper and easier to make a lutty smg.
Yeah, looking back I probably overreacted a bit.
Just not happy that it can take a genuine magazine and pick up a round, but hey I'm sure Denix know what they're doing 😉.
Most of the Denix range take an original mag. Thompson tries to chamber a round too.
Hello, thank you for your comment. I'm surprised they are getting away with it. My Denix SMLE will only take its own magazine and my 1911 is close to accepting original magazines but importantly not quite.
My concern is that the simplicity of the Sten coupled with the ability to take an original magazine and chamber a round could result in someone converting one for live fire relatively easily. Granted it would not last long, but it just takes one idiot doing something like that and it all gets ruined for the rest of us by our knee jerk society, coupled with whoever said idiot hurts in the process (hopefully just themselves).
@@nickvending9688 I heard the Lee-Enfield takes real mags. Also, there is I think a real Belgium submachine gun whose mags fit either the Denix Sten or MP40. Maybe they are doing this to appeal to the re-enactors market? You know, so they can use real mags in their replicas.
Hello, thank you for your comment. My Denix SMLE will not take genuine magazines but it is quite old.
That may well be their intention, it is surprising how much a genuine magazine increases the realism of a replica.
@@nickvending9688 I think so too!
@@nickvending9688 Also bayonets, sights, and slings! In the USA there is a company that does to Denix guns. Like you can get a Thompson with a real stock and sights. Also, de-ac collectors are buying Denix Drum mags as a real 1 is £400!
They make them so if you were to try and convert it/fire real ammunition it would detonate. That's why it's made of cast chinesium.
Hello Bailey, that was my point 👍🏻. Although believe it or not some folks have been arguing to the contrary 🙄.
Does the denix AK 47 have the same issue of taking real mags?
I haven't had a look at one so my apologies but I can't answer the question.
On a few websites they claim, that these aren't compatible with real mags. Do you know if they changed it in later production runs or is this just some legal disclaimer?
I've had a lot of feedback that all the Stens take genuine magazines, also that the Denix Thompson will too. There are reports that their SMLE does, however mine did not.
@@nickvending9688 Thank you! Luckily in my country thats legally not a big problem, and i've recently found four Sten mags and a mag pouch in my granddads basement, so i'm thinking of getting a Denix gun for a resistance reenactment.
Happy to help 👍🏻.
@@nickvending9688 Plod - "Okay! What exactly are you doing with real STEN magazines. Inquiring minds at the station want to know..." Just kidding but the UK is rather heavy handed.
No issues with owning real magazines fortunately. Yes the UK doesn't make things easy for us.
The soldier of fortune site says the replica sten they are selling cannot chamber a round but it appears to be the denix model like yours. So what they are saying is incorrect or have they released a new model that can't??
Hello, thank you for watching and thank you for your comment.
I don't know if the design has been revised, although what they may be saying is that the barrel does not chamber a round because it is an oversize, so there is no actual chamber for the round to sit in.
I can't find your other comment where you asked about material - I would not say that any part is strong enough, though I have been told by members of the AR-15 community that the material of the "receiver" is not relevant. Guess they don't mind their rifles being made from cheese, personally I want steel.
My concern is more about a knee jerk reaction by the antis that could result in a total ban of replicas and / or increased firearms restrictions in the UK due to someone being crass enough to try converting this product to live fire.
@@nickvending9688 I am sure the gun nutters are thinking this is like a polymer gun like Glocks. "If plastic can handle it, surely Zinc Pot Metal can." Forgetting that the upper of a Glock is all metal.
Did you know every subscriber of soldier of fortune are on the files of most countrys intelligence services.
It would take quite a bit of skilled machining to actually make a chamber and barrel that wouldn't explode under the stress of firing a live round. The machined steel parts would more than likely tear themselves from the cheap zinc receiver as soon as the bolt hit them. The various law makers in most countries are satisfied that these aren't readily convertible which is why the paranoid UK government lets us have them. You also need to have certain defences to buy one of these. You cant buy them in a toy shop.
I agree with you about the material, however others in the comments don't. Mainly the AR-15 brigade.
The defence you refer to is pretty easy to come by.
As far as I am aware a replica should not be able to accommodate a real magazine and should not be able to pick up a round from the magazine. I could be wrong.
I was told that there was a CZcams video on converting a Denix to live fire, but I haven't found it.
I've had the same thought about convertibility, it's a concern. Zamak, 95% zinc.
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated 👍🏻. It is a worry.
I remember that some of the early AR-15 style semi-automatic .22lr rifles had zamak receivers but I think the thickness was more and the force from the .22lr is much less than 9mm.
can you unscrew the barrel nut?
No, it is a push fit held in place by a self tapping screw. It can become loose, as mine has.
My barrel shroud in it is super loose…have a fix?
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated.
Sorry to hear that.
If the product is within warranty then personally I would send it back rather than attempting to fix it.
I was talked in to trying to remove the shroud by someone in the comments, mine is also now loose however it won't come out. When I get some time to look at it I will be attempting a fix on mine, I will video the process.
@@nickvending9688 hi, did you get it out and glued it back in ?
@fabiof6221 hello, I really need to get around to fixing it.
hi! Can you chamber a round into the denix magazin?
Hello, thank you for your comment.
The Denix magazine is just an outer shell, it has no magazine platform.The top is also oversized so a 9mm round just falls straight into it.
the metal with which the replica is made is durable?
Hello, thank you for your comment. It isn't going to fall apart but at the same time I would not call it overly durable. It is an alloy called Mazak (also sometimes called Zamak).
Your video is excellent, every think I needed to know and more I'm about to buy a replica denix I'm from Australia
Thank you for the feedback, much appreciated.
Thank you for watching the channel.
Huh oddly they sell those parts that explode online
Which parts? Probably not in the UK.
@@nickvending9688 your right, but maybe you can’t have barrels and shrouds shipped to Uk? Even so I’d prefer that lacked freedom as to being a government slave to taxes and having to ask permission to literally do anything then pay a tax for that too. But hey guess freedom isn’t free as they say, you uk guys taking American refugees at the moment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honestly it isn't much better over here. The only way to get on in the UK is to not work, or be one of the super rich. Those of us that work for a living are taxed and mortgaged to the hilt, paying a fortune for everything (energy, fuel, food, supplies) and are paying for those that don't work whilst watching the super rich living lavish lifestyles and somehow avoiding paying their fair share of tax.
The grass is always greener, but in the UK's case it is because someone dyed the poop green before they sprayed it over everything.
I used to fire these things for real in the TA's, but being a left hander I copped a chinful of casings. Not pleasant....
It's bad enough getting one down your sleeve, let alone a chinful!
@@nickvending9688 Yeah, it wasn't pleasant and there seemed no way around it for a left hander. I fared much better at a different venue with a 12 gauge shotgun. All long in the past, a lifetime ago, but the memory sticks...
I'd be honest I wouldn't even try to use live ammo. ( even if you could get it) i value my hands and fingers to much
A lot of folk in the comments seem to disagree with us on that. Wouldn't want to try it due to legality and danger. I pointed it out because it could cause someone an issue because it shouldn't be able to do what it does.
@@nickvending9688 Over to the dark side. This Zinc Pot Metal Replica. Seems like many of the parts are ONE TO ONE scale. As the STEN is a crude firearm to begin with this could be demilled, the parts farmed out to various machine shops or hand fashioned from real metal, and "Johnny Cash'ed" back into a real STEN. Some of the non pressure bearing parts could be actually used as long as welds are not needed (definitely not the tube, bolt, barrel, etc). It is a virtual 3D blueprint. Bwahahahahahahahaha! (Horror movie organ music.)
"Oy! I need this little figit bit er made in full carbon steel. Yeah, this is a cheap chinese part I know will break. No, it is just a bit for my bicycle. It makes it go really fast."
Yes, exactly. It is almost a bit too realistic.
It would be less of a headache to just actually make one
Now there's a thought.
Just found your channel by accident, nice to see a uk based channel on this subject. I'll subscribe....BTW I enjoyed your delivery, amusing , maybe you might give my channel a look....assorted crap and me waffling on 🙂
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@@nickvending9688 hello and thanks...yeh comments disappear , yes I enjoyed the way you presented things....my channel is just a middle aged bloke drinking in either a shed or loft, with militaria and often including cats and me talking crap!.....thats life!!!
Don't think it's really convertible, it would destroy itself
Personally I agree with you and I hope no one tries. Seems opinion is split in the comments, interesting reading.
Waste of time converting it, at best to 9mm PAX blanks. Probably still break.
Yep, my point exactly.
It does not catch the casing from the barrel so it would also be a stupid idea if you just don't want a one shooter
Hello, thank you for your comment much appreciated. I was waiting for someone to mention extraction and ejection of the case. The bolt already has the basic form of the cutout for the extractor so it would be refining the cutout then adding an extractor claw and spring.
Fortunately ejection would be more difficult.
@@nickvending9688 Indeed very interesting video over all good job lad.👍🏻
I take it has no ejector for the empty shell casings because there is no need on a replica.
When Brittains build a gun
To be honest it's the same when we build anything. Houses, cars, submarines.
It’s ally. Metal and I wouldn’t want to fire it if it has been converted because it would explode You’re making amount of molehill
Hello, thanks for your comment. It is interesting reading the comments on this video, there is a split regarding the material. Personally (as stated in the video) I agree that the material is not strong enough.
Either way it shouldn't be able to take a genuine magazine and pick up a round.
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Vielen Dank, sehr geschätzt. Ich freue mich, dass dir das Video gefallen hat.
Things are fake, wait... is the gun not fake?😂 it is a decor replica.
Yes, but keep in mind this is a review and I'm reporting the facts.
However I don't like the cast in features, would it have cost a fortune to have incorporated them as moving if not functional components?
@@nickvending9688 some models can be taking appart and some not, keep in mind when the gun is on the wall it would be harder to see the "fake" partd
I use them for displays and talks, for me it would be better if the cast in features actually worked.
It's my personal opinion, the viewer is free to make up their own mind as to whether they can accept it.
all of denix's guns are made of a very weak metal that will shatter under any pressure
Yes, I do make that point in the video.
The ugliest gun I have ever owned, and yes I did use one in the late 50s. That gun is a disgrace to show up with in any ones war.
Hello, thank you for your comment. Can't argue with you on any of those points. Good old British military thinking at its very worst.
Please tell us about your usage of this gun in the 1950s, I’m genuinely curious.
Cool 😎💪🏻🏆👌🏻 👊🏻
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏻
Denix replica almost as reliable as a real Mk II.
😂 almost. The Sten rather embodies the thinking of the British military during WWII, if it is simple and cheap then churn it out regardless of whether it is fit for purpose.