THE TERMINATOR (Story + T 800 Terminator Cybernetic Organism) Explained

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    The Terminator series is an American science-fiction franchise created by James Cameron. It encompasses a series of films, comics, novels, and additional media concerning battles between Skynet's synthetic intelligent machine network, and John Connor's Resistance forces.
    The first movie, simply titled The Terminator is a 1984 science fiction action film directed by James Cameron. It stars Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator, a cyborg assassin sent back in time from 2029 to 1984 to kill Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton), whose unborn son will one day save mankind from extinction by a hostile artificial intelligence in a post-apocalyptic future. Michael Biehn plays Kyle Reese, a soldier sent back in time to protect Sarah. The screenplay is credited to Cameron and producer Gale Anne Hurd, while co-writer William Wisher Jr. received a credit for additional dialogue.
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  • @chriscarrete5303
    @chriscarrete5303 Před 2 lety +388

    I love how The Terminator and Predator took aspects of the horror genre and blended it with sci-fi/action.

    • @tdawg719
      @tdawg719 Před rokem +4

      You weren’t the only one who thought that. Hence it’s massive success.

    • @joshuar3632
      @joshuar3632 Před rokem +14

      Kinda like aliens?

    • @Will-dn9dq
      @Will-dn9dq Před rokem +3

      @@joshuar3632 beat me 2 it lol

    • @Will-dn9dq
      @Will-dn9dq Před rokem +3

      You know Cameron paid a guy for stealing the story? It was an old twilight zone. Two mindless killing men in destroyed future with helmets repeating "kill kill kill" in there ears. Something happens mid fight an one is sent to 60s America learns to be more human. Then the 2nd appears and the fight destroying them both. Foretelling a future we cannot change. Yeah lotsa $$$ 20yrs after his story was 1st used.
      There's a ray Bradbury story short film where ppl stay inside watching TV constantly never leave home. The one that decided to go out sneaking at night to avoid the machines told another how the shows he watches are recycled. The new show is really a old one re edited not even remade same film cells used.
      They sneak out are discovered an the 1st man talks with the flying pod confused ppl aren't watching tv asks if his is broken. After saying he just wanted outside he's told he'll be taken to a rehabilitation. The pod opens turns out no one's inside! It's a drone. He laughs asking the other man allowed to return home if there's even any people left to run the rehab. Says it's probably all automated an old itself.
      Yeah think terminator is original? Naw it's just got great action that feeds the solid plot.

    • @chriscarrete5303
      @chriscarrete5303 Před rokem +1

      @@Will-dn9dq yeah want to say he settled it out of court.

  • @iceheart1289
    @iceheart1289 Před 2 lety +337

    The good ol days! Before genesis and dark fate came along! I swear you can watch the original and judgement day a 100 times and never tire of them.

    • @HragFarraGaming
      @HragFarraGaming Před 2 lety +28

      Yep never tire of them, but if Salvation is on I'll give it a watch. They should've continued with that and ended it with Skynet being destroyed and Reese being sent back in time. Closing the loop.

    • @tunderstorm2769
      @tunderstorm2769 Před 2 lety +12

      @@HragFarraGaming but human greed is unstoppable

    • @simpledanman
      @simpledanman Před 2 lety

      I honestly liked both of those. Terminator 3 and salvation where the low points imo

    • @ATJonzie
      @ATJonzie Před 2 lety +1

      Personally I liked Genesis

    • @chris-bk9yg
      @chris-bk9yg Před 2 lety +2

      Agreed judgement day beyond biblical

  • @jamesaitchison9478
    @jamesaitchison9478 Před rokem +57

    I first saw The Terminator on VHS back in 1985 and it blew my mind.
    A virtually indestructible machine sent from the future to kill the mother of the unborn resistance leader in the future.
    Never has a better sentence in Sci-Fi been written that clearly explains the plot in so much detail with so little words.
    Love The Terminator.

    • @ldarm
      @ldarm Před rokem

      I first watched it when I was about 6 in the mid ninties, as an adult it is a lot scarier!

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 2 lety +530

    One of my favorite scenes from the original Terminator besides his attack on the police precinct. Is when she was dreaming about the future and that one Terminator came in with that 50 caliber laser machine gun and laid waste to everything.

    • @nerdcore8819
      @nerdcore8819 Před 2 lety +5

      Awesome movies

    • @jaxturner7288
      @jaxturner7288 Před 2 lety +14

      In those tunnels with the dogs barking?

    • @dirkdiggler7912
      @dirkdiggler7912 Před 2 lety +33

      I didn’t know for a long time that that terminator was played by Franco Columbo. Arnolds best friend.

    • @JohnDoe-cz3dh
      @JohnDoe-cz3dh Před 2 lety +9

      He* was dreaming

    • @draupnir23
      @draupnir23 Před 2 lety +14

      They laid the foundation right there that not all terminators needed to look like Arnold.

  • @BovineDesigns
    @BovineDesigns Před 2 lety +375

    Rules of the 80's movie:
    1. Is a near perfect cultural icon
    2. Only gets one good sequel (if that)
    3. Will be rebooted at least 3 times.

    • @Beyondlimits_400
      @Beyondlimits_400 Před 2 lety +12

      I think terminator 2 outdid the first one by a mile, but I agree every one that came after 2 was bad with the exception of salvation that I thought was decent at best.

    • @javier.alvarez764
      @javier.alvarez764 Před 2 lety +2

      Back to the future didn't have a reboot lol.

    • @violetdusk1968
      @violetdusk1968 Před 2 lety +8

      @@javier.alvarez764 and you think it's safe?

    • @Snake-sg7yc
      @Snake-sg7yc Před 2 lety +3

      Robocop

    • @josephcarroll6356
      @josephcarroll6356 Před 2 lety

      BTTF wants to talk to you.

  • @ninja1man4u
    @ninja1man4u Před 2 lety +123

    "Listen to me! That thing is still out there, and it WILL NOT STOP. It doesn't feel tired, or hungry, it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, remorse or fear. It will hunt you down and it WILL NOT STOP UNTIL YOU ARE DEAD!"

    • @Jk-zv6tz
      @Jk-zv6tz Před 2 lety +3

      Dark fate enters the chat.

    • @tunderstorm2769
      @tunderstorm2769 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Jk-zv6tz oh hi I'm the unstoppable selling machine

    • @ozmir2176
      @ozmir2176 Před 2 lety +5

      Sound like my ex

    • @mitchscott1556
      @mitchscott1556 Před 3 měsíci

      Michael Biehn's Kyle Reese is still one of the most powerful characters ever in my opinion. So good dude.

  • @blueturret5596
    @blueturret5596 Před 2 lety +1352

    Whilst the sequels following the second have been pretty disappointing overall. Nothing will ever beat the quality and sci-fi spectacle of the first two terminator movies, in my opinion.

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  Před 2 lety +94

      They're both back-to-back classics!

    • @RerunTheWizard
      @RerunTheWizard Před 2 lety +9

      Whilst

    • @blueturret5596
      @blueturret5596 Před 2 lety +25

      @@RerunTheWizard Yes “whilst.” Would you like a link to the definition?

    • @RerunTheWizard
      @RerunTheWizard Před 2 lety +2

      @@blueturret5596 yes please

    • @John-Doe-Yo
      @John-Doe-Yo Před 2 lety +18

      @@blueturret5596 lol you gotta cater to Americans dialect don’t cha know? The world revolves around them apparently.

  • @ChaosInferno101
    @ChaosInferno101 Před 2 lety +90

    The Terminator T-800 will always be my favorite version of all of the different terminators versions

    • @DonMarzzoni
      @DonMarzzoni Před 2 lety +1

      T-1000 is my favorite I wish I had one

    • @Ragnarok_1218
      @Ragnarok_1218 Před 2 lety +4

      They are literally the Nokia of killer cyborgs.

    • @lornarettig3215
      @lornarettig3215 Před 2 lety +3

      Same. The T800 haunted my thoughts more than almost any other sci-fi villain. I really enjoyed, but wasn’t at all scared by, the Alien and Predator films, but that stop-motion T800 was just terrifying to me 🫣

    • @LuciTulcea
      @LuciTulcea Před rokem

      @@DonMarzzoni No, you wouldn't.

    • @DonMarzzoni
      @DonMarzzoni Před rokem

      @@LuciTulcea yes I would. Even though they might go rogue it's totally worth it.

  • @texasguy5377
    @texasguy5377 Před 2 lety +93

    The scene where the terminator comes back and its artificial flesh has burned off and he's completely metal scared the crap out of me when I was little I was thinking man they're never gonna kill this damn thing.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Před rokem +9

      Same thing happened with the T1000 for me, after it thawed and recombined.

    • @Noir0rioN
      @Noir0rioN Před rokem +3

      The hand, man.
      That. damn.✋️HAND!

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Před rokem +2

      @@JoshSweetvale that and the eye ripping scene always got me as a kid

  • @Tb0n33999
    @Tb0n33999 Před 2 lety +35

    All I know is that cop in the "I'll be back" scene had impeccable handwriting.

  • @Sonics1DiscordKitten
    @Sonics1DiscordKitten Před 2 lety +253

    I've always loved seeing the dystopian sci-fi battles between Skynet and the humans. Terminator Salvation is one of my favorite movies, simply due to the fact of "ooo cool future battle"

    • @tristanbackup2536
      @tristanbackup2536 Před 2 lety +27

      Terminator: Resistance game is right up your alley.

    • @user-xj3mo2lx9z
      @user-xj3mo2lx9z Před 2 lety +22

      I absolutely loved Salvation, even tho its like the most hated Terminator movie in the franchise.

    • @Legion849
      @Legion849 Před 2 lety +21

      @@user-xj3mo2lx9z That award goes to Dark Fate an absolute trainwreck and it was the final nail in the coffin. Every sequel after the 2nd one were dissapointing

    • @deleted_215
      @deleted_215 Před 2 lety +14

      @@user-xj3mo2lx9z I think people would have liked Salvation more if we got laser guns. I often hear people complaint about that

    • @blaskoxx4954
      @blaskoxx4954 Před 2 lety +1

      T2 you millennial!

  • @jrsdt2ndaccount30
    @jrsdt2ndaccount30 Před 2 lety +55

    I consdiered this as horror when I was still a child.

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  Před 2 lety +16

      It is a horror!

    • @generalgrevious815
      @generalgrevious815 Před 2 lety +7

      I worked at hollywood video and blockbuster video and T1 was always classified as and put in the horror section.
      T2 was action. I remember this clearly as people always wanting to rent T1 and T2 where always confused as to why they werent next to eachother.

    • @Foozefighter
      @Foozefighter Před 2 lety +2

      the metallic skeleton with red eyes gave me nightmares as a poster when i was 6 ... when i watched it, it was not that horrible, lol, funny how our imaginations can run wild

    • @Zurround
      @Zurround Před 2 lety

      One thing the Terminator franchise and HILLS HAVE EYES have in common if you stick to the "horror" classification (I think technically its just classified as science fiction) is this: In BOTH movies (including remake for Hills Have Eyes) there is ONE "good" monster that saves the main characters and shows that they are not all evil and terrifying. Arnold kind of "rehabilitated'' the reputation of the Terminator from a horror monster to a hero and in Hills Have Eyes there was ONE mutant who helped and protected the main characters.

    • @DH-cw9it
      @DH-cw9it Před 2 lety +2

      James Cameron was influenced by Halloween and the idea of a relentless, stalking killer. The first Terminator is certainly a horror in that regard.

  • @lord_touchme
    @lord_touchme Před 2 lety +40

    The stop motion animation for the exo skeleton was always frightening to me when I was younger. But now it's very nostalgic and erratic

    • @I.D.I.O.C.R.A.C.Y.
      @I.D.I.O.C.R.A.C.Y. Před rokem +5

      Honestly? The lurching and jerking way it moves sort of lends itself to the fact its heavily damaged at this point.

    • @janeblogs324
      @janeblogs324 Před rokem

      Exo = exterior. Not an exoskeleton

  • @heybrandon88
    @heybrandon88 Před 2 lety +11

    That stop motion of the t-800 limping through the factory corridor still gives me chills.

  • @TheRandomNightLord
    @TheRandomNightLord Před 2 lety +65

    I’ve seen all the terminator films quite a few times but the first one is a true masterpiece to me and I’ve watched it a ungodly amount of times because it’s just mesmerizing to see the first one it’s scary yeah I like learning and more human terminator as much as the next guy but the first incarnation is the true and most memorable version

  • @JerBuster77
    @JerBuster77 Před 2 lety +53

    The practical special effects still hold their own today. Really well done.

  • @DarkLadyAthena1
    @DarkLadyAthena1 Před 2 lety +75

    The first two films are without question jewels of science fiction cinema. The first one though is more horror and I love that because it is unnerving because it feels so real. Even more so today as AI has advanced a lot and will undoubtedly continue to do so.
    I still can't forget Kyle Reese's lines of how the terminator will never stop coming. It doesn't feel any remorse, fear or pain and it won't stop until its target is destroyed.
    The reason why I also like it is because it's a tragic love story. Sarah never asks to be the mother of the Messiah. And Kyle Reese was the blind believer and sacrificial lamb whose only purpose is to bring forth the savior.

  • @kylebradleyduckslfgamingra1470

    Im 33 now and still to this day out of all the movies ive seen terminator 1&2 and alien 1&2 remain in my top 10 movies easy!

    • @mrichar9
      @mrichar9 Před 2 lety +2

      100% truth right here

    • @loskithakiing6395
      @loskithakiing6395 Před 2 lety +1

      "The lie detector determined... you are telling the TRUTH!"
      -Maury

    • @kylebradleyduckslfgamingra1470
      @kylebradleyduckslfgamingra1470 Před 2 lety

      And just to add as i think most would agree both franchises completely fooked up when it came to the 3rd installment of each series and failed to deliver what fans wanted. Alien 3 we wanted Ripley, hicks and newts story to continue. T3 we simple wanted the war. Well we know what happened lol although i do have a soft spot for alien 3 directors cut

    • @rinzler9171
      @rinzler9171 Před 2 lety

      Were you named after Reese?

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 Před rokem

      Way back there was . Planet of the apes . But the franchise lost the plot on that too

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 Před 2 lety +39

    This movie is a sci fi horror classic that has beyond stood the test of time glade to see you reviewing this timeless classic.

    • @Geezer-yf8hv
      @Geezer-yf8hv Před 2 lety +1

      Definitely! I’m about to give up on new movies and just invest on classic movies into my Blue ray collection!

    • @damianstarks3338
      @damianstarks3338 Před 2 lety

      @@Geezer-yf8hv there are some good movies out today so don’t give up just yet !

    • @Geezer-yf8hv
      @Geezer-yf8hv Před 2 lety

      @@damianstarks3338 I never give up. I feel there IS a higher level that CAN be achieved. Just so few independent thinkers out now, (at least for main stream thinking)! It’s a fad, I know! It just feels like it’s a time to hunker down, and wait for God-awful wokeness to burn itself out!

    • @Geezer-yf8hv
      @Geezer-yf8hv Před 2 lety +1

      @@damianstarks3338 Yes! I have yet to see Dune, but can’t find others with interest to go see it with me! I’m surrounded by morons!

    • @damianstarks3338
      @damianstarks3338 Před 2 lety

      @@Geezer-yf8hv yeah looks like you !

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 2 lety +99

    COOL!! Yes!! What's crazy is that OJ Simpson was considered for the role of The Terminator, but James Cameron changed his mind saying "He's too much of a nice guy to play the role of a ruthless killer."😳🤦

    • @grapeshot
      @grapeshot Před 2 lety +8

      Some people just can't let go the fact that he was acquitted. Even though there's been plenty of times in history, let's say the trial of Emmett Till when we know the person perpetrated the crime because they even bragged about it but they were acquitted.

    • @iceheart1289
      @iceheart1289 Před 2 lety +5

      Can you imagine! I'm not saying OJ would of been a unfit role, but the movie series probly woundnt of been looked back as fondly if he was cast.

    • @calebowman9782
      @calebowman9782 Před 2 lety +7

      @@grapeshot since when has acquittal ever been synonymous with innocence?

    • @grapeshot
      @grapeshot Před 2 lety +4

      @@calebowman9782 since he walked out the courtroom a free man.

    • @calebowman9782
      @calebowman9782 Před 2 lety +1

      @@grapeshot like Emmett Till?

  • @rambo9533
    @rambo9533 Před 2 lety +108

    Love the terminator just as much as everyone around the world and Arnold Schwarzenegger is the only one actor to play the relentless intimidating unstoppable killing machine, he is irreplaceable and can never be replaced. The first terminator is one of the best of the best movies and to this day it’s still one of the most terrifying films of cat and mouse we’ve seen, the T-800 aka the terminator is one of the best villains and action heroes of all time

    • @chrisp3085
      @chrisp3085 Před 2 lety +3

      Robert Patrick, aka the T-1000, would like to know your location Mr. only one actor to play the relentless intimidating unstoppable killing machine. :P

    • @melomitchell8714
      @melomitchell8714 Před 2 lety +3

      @@chrisp3085 neither the T-800 nor the T-1000 were unstoppable. They bother were stopped lol.

    • @MrDeedsly
      @MrDeedsly Před 2 lety +2

      Exactly its shot like a horror movie.

    • @robert48044
      @robert48044 Před 2 lety

      Arnold was a better Barbarian great at both but I'll always be a Conan or Red Sonja fan

    • @residentelect
      @residentelect Před 2 lety

      @MR.C&A Video911Game
      Another "relentless, intimidating, unstoppable killing machine" ...
      Well, if the glove fits 😉

  • @Regnier575
    @Regnier575 Před 2 lety +21

    Absolutely love T1 and T2. Such classics I wish I was born to see them in cinemas first time round.

    • @bretthibbs6083
      @bretthibbs6083 Před rokem

      I was about 10 when t1 came out but I didn't really know about it cause back then I never really watched tv at all I was always out doing something but t2 I saw in theaters and it was awesome I walked out of the theater with my jaw dropped to the ground lol and I was able to see terminator 3 in theaters too and I had the same reaction.

    • @Regnier575
      @Regnier575 Před rokem

      @@bretthibbs6083 Damn you're so lucky. It's such an amazing film, timeless classic that I'm so glad I got to at least watch. I remember having it on video tape and ruining the tape as I watched it that many times

  • @JaqenHghar.
    @JaqenHghar. Před rokem +1

    The dogs name scene is one of my favorite scenes in any movie ever. He doesn't explain his tactic and once he's gotten the info he needs he just cold bloodied style hangs up mid convo and as walking away says, "your parents are dead"

  • @gamerstheater1187
    @gamerstheater1187 Před 2 lety +85

    What I want to know is what the machines' culture was like. Like in the Matrix we saw the sentient machines were able to live and have kids, so what is like for terminators outside of killing, do they have a culture or are they hive minded. Like does a Terminator come home from a long day's of killing to be greeted by his wife and kids?!

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 Před 2 lety +12

      Skynet an Co act more like Borg in recharging an powered down/storage areas when not actively killing or searching for humans to kill an capture, or guarding and forcing humans to slave away in labor/death camps

    • @michaelj6392
      @michaelj6392 Před 2 lety +22

      @@robertagu5533 the whole slave labor thing didn’t make sense to me. Why would terminators need humans to work as a labor force? Seems like humans would be terribly inefficient by comparison, not to mention they need to eat, sleep, poop, etc.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 Před 2 lety +12

      @@michaelj6392 in the franchise there's a reason for this. It's addressed more then once. Basically, Skynet attacked Humanity after reading an learning ALL about humans an our history or War an alot of the atrocities that often come with it.
      So to both destroy Humans, or barring that, keep us both busy and useful it made forced labor/death camps To make people serve it's control and war effort Agenda against Connor an the Tech Com Resistance

    • @slang1517
      @slang1517 Před 2 lety +13

      @@michaelj6392 I think the human slave labor could be explained by finite resources. Suppose the human resistance manage to capture some Skynet territories, like mining facilities, factories or warehouses, then Skynet may compensate by utilizing captured humans. Personally, I'd like to see Skynet dabble in human experimentation and mind control before perfecting its cybernetic technology. There's potential for good horror stories there.

    • @anodosarcade7355
      @anodosarcade7355 Před 2 lety +9

      @@michaelj6392 they actual utilized them for a lot of purposes. the scientists and engineers actually were forced to design machines for them. and you need humans to study for your infilitraters, why not force them to mine and build to keep them busy and save resources?

  • @MaximMicheal20
    @MaximMicheal20 Před 2 lety +19

    I love The Terminator and I always categorize this as a horror movie, a hi-tech slasher! It’s a timeless classic!

  • @AlexanderJoneshttps
    @AlexanderJoneshttps Před 2 lety +19

    Terminator one will always be a timeless masterpiece

    • @DBMWM3GTR
      @DBMWM3GTR Před rokem

      The second one was also one of the best

    • @daylightdies7194
      @daylightdies7194 Před rokem

      It’s the most terrifying of them all tbh

  • @Hernanmartinez460
    @Hernanmartinez460 Před 2 lety +132

    Marcus was definitely one of the best things added to the terminator lore

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  Před 2 lety +42

      Terminator Salvation was great!

    • @tunderstorm2769
      @tunderstorm2769 Před 2 lety +24

      @@filmcomicsexplained honestly I don't get why people dislike 3 and salvation, like I get that it's repeating the same thing over and over but they're still good moovies

    • @generalgrevious815
      @generalgrevious815 Před 2 lety +18

      @@tunderstorm2769 i understand not like 3. Its very goofy. Like i enjoy it for what it is, but its a pretty big departure from the previous two.
      Salvation was great but being a modern movie studios dont take chances. It was a semi slow start to a trillogy that was going to cover the war, but didnt have plasma rifles in the 40 watt range so people claimed it was bad.

    • @TeamBOBBYEE
      @TeamBOBBYEE Před 2 lety +5

      If only we knew what was to come after salvation ;
      Maybe people would have given it the flowers it deserved

    • @shalindelta7
      @shalindelta7 Před 2 lety +6

      @linkuei83 it was supposed to spawn a trilogy, so all that could've happened.
      Marcus was better than john, preferred his scenes with kyle and that lady pilot more than john.

  • @brandon351smith
    @brandon351smith Před rokem +20

    The scene where Sarah and John deactivate read only mode in the 800, is one of the most genius scenes in cinema to me. Not only in the way it was filmed, but in how it gives more insight into how skynet will operate at a time (mostly for the better) where it was merely mentioned and left to our imaginations. The fact sarah could of let her emotions permanently destroy their chances of survival by destroying the cpu, and The way John stops her. If I recall correctly this was a deleted scene at one point and I'm glad it was restored.

  • @6969scoots
    @6969scoots Před 2 lety +14

    14:20 I completely forgot we used to have phone books where you could literally look someone up. Crazy to think we used to be able to do that without much worry as to how people would use that information

    • @generalgrevious815
      @generalgrevious815 Před 2 lety +1

      Lol i still get free phone books every year and i dont even have a land line.
      They still list your home phone and address unless you dont have a land line or request the number be private and unlisted.

    • @henners8910
      @henners8910 Před 2 lety +1

      You can literally google peoples names and find out where they live if they are listed lmfao it’s still there

    • @markcadieux3445
      @markcadieux3445 Před 2 lety +1

      @@henners8910 A friend of mine looked up an actors ph nimber and actually called him.

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 Před rokem

      @@generalgrevious815 who has a land line now??

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 Před rokem

      @@henners8910 you can also reverse do it

  • @piercepayumo4212
    @piercepayumo4212 Před 2 lety +8

    "Hasta la Vista... Baby."

  • @j.f3582
    @j.f3582 Před 2 lety +9

    Nice to see you go back to older videos and add more details. This is why I sub

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Před 2 lety +25

    Ultron in the MCU is basically another Skynet

    • @generalgrevious815
      @generalgrevious815 Před 2 lety +1

      I kind of agree.
      However Ultron actually developed emotions. Fear, joy, anger, hope, arrogance. Ultron had all of these things.
      Skynet in most cases does not show any of these. Its does what its doing because its following a corrupt version of what it was programed to do. There is no emotion behind its choices.
      I guess the best way to put it is ultron is basically "human" in alot of ways just way beyond in terms of intelligence.
      While skynet for all of its data and computational power at most reaches more of an animalistic form of intelligence. Its not even good at developing new and original ideas. Just advancments in what humanity has already done.
      It still fights wars conventionally. It still keeps humans as a labor force. It still uses ground soldiers backed by armor and air support.
      Its infantry still uses hand held weapons. Why not build the weapons into the units? Why use the basic human form at all? Why not make nano machines that scour the earth destroying organic matter and also break down the environment into its basic elements to be used to contruct more nano machines.

    • @yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy
      @yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy Před 2 lety

      Shhhh your not supposed to let them know

  • @williammiller4768
    @williammiller4768 Před 2 lety +21

    Yknow, there’s another viewpoint to consider:
    Sky net keeps perpetuating the Time travels. Each time backdating it’s development. Each “awakening” changes with each movie we see as each one is an alternate reality. Skynet has to awaken early. Reese has to live so Skynet can send the Terminator to kill him, ensuring that Connor lives to further help force Skynets developments.

    • @tophergofer9895
      @tophergofer9895 Před 2 lety +2

      Dope point of view never thought of that

    • @chuck3938
      @chuck3938 Před 2 lety

      That was my take on Roland and the Dark Towers series. Sadly, it was not to be. Sabotage!

    • @markcadieux3445
      @markcadieux3445 Před 2 lety +2

      How come Skynet didn't send a terminator back to kill Sarah Conners parents before SHE was born? It would've solved all their problems.

  • @cccycling5835
    @cccycling5835 Před 2 lety +17

    That first time you see the Terminator in skeletal true form is still terrifying to this day. It sends shivers down my spine every time I see it.
    Sadly, IMO after T2 it was all downhill from there. Starting this video with that scene is a instathumb here.

  • @ShiftyKen08
    @ShiftyKen08 Před rokem +1

    The Terminator, Alien, The Predator, Robocop, Rambo First Blood, Blade Runner, Star Wars A New Hope, The Thing, these are all iconic films that stand the test of time. I've watched them all multiple times and still do to this day.

  • @TURTWIG094
    @TURTWIG094 Před 2 lety +17

    Sometimes the older models are better than the new ones

    • @brianzulauf2974
      @brianzulauf2974 Před 2 lety +1

      It's amazing how technological limitations actually make for better special effects artists and effects

    • @london_james
      @london_james Před 2 lety

      Some are timeless

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 Před rokem

      Toyotas

  • @Leonsunshine
    @Leonsunshine Před 2 lety +3

    I saw Terminator when I was 6. I saw it again and again and again. Time after time. This must be my favorite movie of all time.

    • @esk8er900
      @esk8er900 Před 2 lety

      I was absolutely floored when I originally saw T2 as a 6 year old in 1992 & I have the illustrated screenplay/script of T2 from back then. No joke my moms had to mail order it & “wait 6-8 weeks for delivery”… that was my nightly bedtime story lol. and even tho it’s got some miles, it’s still a mainstay on my coffee table along with “the joy of painting by Bob Ross.” Btw the 4K Dolby Atmos re-release is pretty dope

  • @RockRedGenesis
    @RockRedGenesis Před 2 lety +13

    I remember watching The Terminator around the time Judgement Day was in theaters (I was 2 when Terminator came out!) and the scene where the T-800 Endo was stalking Kyle and Sarah through the factory was a truly scary scene. Scary in a good way, it had my heart pumping, it was then even after the rest of the film, you realised that this thing was freaking unstoppable. It is just amazing how well The Terminator stands up even today. They rarely make films like this anymore. If I had a Top 10, The Terminator and T2 would easily be in the top 5 of that list.

    • @newforestpixie5297
      @newforestpixie5297 Před rokem

      I was 20 yrs old in 1984 so it’s nice of you to give my generation or those 10 years older respect for creating something technological which you young guys don’t sneer at - and still find exciting. As it happens , that Director would’ve been around 20 in 1974 when your namesake Genesis were at their best although that music & their flared jeans hasn’t dated well at all…..🙄

    • @lightning932
      @lightning932 Před 4 měsíci

      The endo skeleton of the t800 was terrifying when I saw this when I was younger. If it wasn't limping, omg, it would have been 3x as scary.
      But that's just its appearance. Since it doesn't have a gun, it has to literally be up in your face, use its arms to kill you.
      It was more terrifying when it had flesh, going around and shooting people.

    • @RockRedGenesis
      @RockRedGenesis Před 4 měsíci

      @@lightning932 Yeah, that scene in the Police station, where it took on an entire precinct. And nothing could stop it! And T2 clarified that 17 officers died in that attack by the 800. Scary stuff as a 12 year old!

  • @twstf8905
    @twstf8905 Před 2 lety +12

    This is a welcome, "video essay," a little more so than a, "Terminator; Explained."
    (And far more up my alley, as a result.)
    Well done. 🤜💥🤛

  • @joshmciver4847
    @joshmciver4847 Před 2 lety +60

    and then Lance Hendrickson went on to play an android for James Cameron in Aliens - Bishop.
    Obviously Schwarzenegger was the correct choice for the Terminator, but it does show that Hendrickson could have pulled off the role... It just would have been different. Kinda like Tom Selleck as Indiana Jones.

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  Před 2 lety +9

      Great point!

    • @vikinghammer87
      @vikinghammer87 Před 2 lety

      Very interesting

    • @dutchnamekian256
      @dutchnamekian256 Před 2 lety

      In theory anyone can play a t 800 this version just uses arnolds looks i would love to see that t800 with a different look and i think indeed lance would have been a good choice and in judgementday robert patrick played a really good t1000

    • @dutchnamekian256
      @dutchnamekian256 Před 2 lety

      As an edit it would be a design flaw if they only deployed a t800 with just one look once it would have been made and killed the resistance would have sent everyone the looks of this t800 series so it would make sense that they would have different skins for them

    • @ramonantoniodejuanbennett6239
      @ramonantoniodejuanbennett6239 Před rokem

      Imagine Stallone or Dolph Lundgren as the T-800

  • @twstf8905
    @twstf8905 Před 2 lety +7

    There's something so charming about stop-motion animation, in these practical effects-driven movies. 👍

  • @JarOfRats
    @JarOfRats Před 2 lety +3

    His name is James, James Cameron! The greatest pioneer! No ocean too deep, no budget too steep, who's that? It's HIM! James Cameron!

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Před 2 lety +50

    I’m just gonna admit this right now the police station massacre was my favorite scene

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  Před 2 lety +27

      Its the sheer terror of it. Sarah Connor is surrounded by officers protecting her, so we're lulled into a false sense of security before the Terminator comes in and wipes out the entire precinct like they were nothing. This compounds the realisation that her and Kyle are in for a hell of a night

    • @Teknokill-jm2ub
      @Teknokill-jm2ub Před 2 lety +1

      😨🙄😳 yeah.... It probably was for most everyone, we're ashamed to admit.

    • @dynamicdave2647
      @dynamicdave2647 Před 2 lety

      It was super well done

    • @Parocha
      @Parocha Před 2 lety

      @@filmcomicsexplained I think this is the moment when Sarah finally realizes that Kyle is telling the truth. Up to this point, thought gradually coming around to believing Reese's story, she still ponders whether he may be actually crazy. The fact that the Terminator turned out to be as relentless as Reese told her is proven in her eyes in this moment.

  • @jdottdeestv8149
    @jdottdeestv8149 Před 2 lety +4

    Okay, intro was epic :) and the Dave Chappelle clip, priceless.

  • @Menagerie_OS
    @Menagerie_OS Před 2 lety +10

    The timeline can be changed, but it leads to another branched timeline i.e Dark Fate and Genisys. Dark Fate branches off after T2 into its own separate timeline, while Genisys branches off at the very end of the war, sort of a quantum theory. At the end of the war, it split into two separate timelines, the one where john never got converted and the one where he did in Genisys. Also, I recommend you all to play the game Terminator: Resistance. It is a fantastic game, with a perfect story that fits the canon and allows you to immerse yourself into what it was like to be in the Tech-Com unit.

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh Před 2 lety +8

    You know what's crazy? Janelle, John's stepmom in T2, is Vazquez from Aliens. Cameron was so impressed with her on that shoot that he promised her a role in his next film. I can't remember the actress' name (and am too lazy to look it up), but she's a damn chameleon--looks different in every role she plays.

  • @Constantine_IA
    @Constantine_IA Před 2 lety +1

    Absolute masterpiece it gets better with age like fine wine

  • @emmendes5928
    @emmendes5928 Před 2 lety +2

    Could happily listen to you for the length of these movies combined. You have a gift sir

  • @CommodoreFloopjack78
    @CommodoreFloopjack78 Před 2 lety +3

    Absolutely spectacular film and still holds its own to this day. Most modern action films aren't half as well thought out or executed. Truly a classic.

  • @michaelstrlight445
    @michaelstrlight445 Před 2 lety +4

    One of my top 10 favorites sci-fi movies. great job explaining these film comics 👍

  • @briannorris1548
    @briannorris1548 Před 2 lety +7

    Man always a pleasure watching you're content! I gotta say I used to think T2 was the best of the franchise but T1 really can't be beat.

  • @ErenisRanitos
    @ErenisRanitos Před 2 lety +43

    just to clarify: T-800 were powered by just one (I believe) nuclear fuel cell.
    T-850 were powered by 2 hydrogen fuel cells.
    I presume there was an upgrade from nuclear reactor to a (possibly cold?) fusion reactor? 🙂

    • @intechio9013
      @intechio9013 Před 2 lety +6

      yeah im pretty sure arnold got upgraded to a t850 correct me if im wrong

    • @ErenisRanitos
      @ErenisRanitos Před 2 lety +11

      @@intechio9013 it's not Arnold who got upgraded. the face of Arnold is know as "model 101" and in the series, there is at least one more model of T-800 shown (one to infiltrate the base where Kyle Reese rests), so it's 2 terminators, T-800 and T-850, and both are "model 101" (model is used to differentiate the faces and overall body structure)

    • @xyz-hj6ul
      @xyz-hj6ul Před 2 lety +1

      Not in the 1980s.
      More likely a simple RTG aka 'nuclear battery' wherein a radio fuel element degraded a carbon anode which generated heat and electrons to feed a capacitor system which stored conditioned power for transfer to the various hydraulic pumps and comms/sensor/radioprotection systems.
      RTG (Radio Thermoelectric Generators) are what power satellites and space exploration probes. There was a SNAP 27 generator strapped to the leg of the Lunar Landers. I believe they were roughly the size of a cooler or pressure cooker and supplied a few hundred Watts.
      Today, it would probably be closer to a thermos sized unit and provide a Kilowatt or so.
      An HFC is ridiculous. Way too many complex coating catalytic filters to manufacture and typically a too large liquid storage format for a combat chassis to safely protect. While providing only about the equivalent of a lawn mower engine's endurance at-scale.
      LHV and HHV provide something like 90 and 141 Joules per kilogram energy density, depending on the Gibs reaction formula (there is a very narrow temperature band in which you get electron transfer rather than explosive combustion and the cryo engine needed to retain a liquid or slush hydrogen would use most of your free energy...).
      Whereas if it's a low density pressurized gas, the yield is higher but the containment is so low as to make the reaction break down very quickly, even with hundreds of pounds of available fuel which of course a humanoid Terminator would not have.
      Most 'fuel cells' are in fact based on simple diesel because of these two issues and require /tons/ of fuel to get a few weeks of propulsion as with an AIP submarine.
      Change this to Plutonium 239 in an RTG and now you're talking about 83 million Joules per kilogram and suddenly the 'decades of use' condition starts to make sense.
      The 'nuclear battery' is only mentioned in the original novelization and the reason they switched to a hydrogen fuel cell in T3 was because Hollyweird has this whackadoodle idea that you can power the world with words and not physics.
      An exploding (Terminator sized) HFC would be unlikely to blow up a bathroom, never mind a fractional kiloton yield with Rayleigh Taylor column.
      The biggest problem with the entire idea of a Terminator running on combat vs. constant vs. sleep mode demand power outputs (6 months, 4 years, Century+) being that of the CAPACITORS needed to store the power you make.
      The weight and volume requirements just go right through the roof, even before you start talking about sourcing Li3N in a post MAD nuclear environment and the probably extreme combat hazards of a system which will /burn/, almost like white phosphorous, when it gets hot from excess load demand or a plasma rifle strike.
      For an RTG, it probably doesn't matter, it's just a constant generator source.
      Take a major torso hit and you can have a small battery (6V DC, roughly equivalent to what you see in a powerful lantern flashlight or screwdriver) to bring the CNS equivalent functions, autonomic BIT and commo and eyes back online.
      Your generator controller will then determine what, if any, fuel spheres have been compromised and eject them while recovering nominal mobility if not fighting capacity on the remainder (you can compartmentalize RTGs fairly simply). Letting the unit crawl out of the combat zone.
      Past that and you send a recovery request message over datalink and Skynet engineer vehicles will come out and start sorting robo corpses into piles, looking to keep CPU brains and limbs to literally reassemble new units from and probably sacrificing the rest as too irradiated to be safe around electronics.

  • @paranoyd70
    @paranoyd70 Před 2 lety +3

    Another paradox is how Skynet wouldn't have existed without Skynet sending a Terminator back in time. Though later sequels ruled this out, I think it remains one of the many great paradoxes that helps to define the movie in general. The movie doesn't have just one paradox, but multiple paradoxes. Also, I just re-watched T1 & T2 the past week, and they hold up extremely well. Its a shame that later sequels totally dropped the ball, proving yet again that success can pave the road for failure, as past desires get replaced with a type of nepotism. Lastly, another fantastic video, Thanks.

  • @mattkent4397
    @mattkent4397 Před 2 lety +7

    OG timeline: Sarah has John with an unknown man, John grows up to joins the army, survives Skynet to lead remnants of military against the Terminators. Wins
    Terminator Timeline 1: Kyle is the father John still joins the military.
    Terminator timeline 2 after T2: Skynet is delayed til 2003 and John is just how he was in T3.
    New timelines do not exist no matter they want it to.

  • @DMMDestroyer
    @DMMDestroyer Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for making all these videos on the franchise. They're very well made and do it justice.

  • @shoqwavebeats8745
    @shoqwavebeats8745 Před 2 lety +5

    This movie almost had the Stallone's Cobra feel, if you haven't seen cobra, I recommend it, cool 80s flick

  • @Hecanhaveher
    @Hecanhaveher Před 2 lety +5

    That police scene in the first one was truly a force to be reckon with, don’t think they could ever recreate that ever

  • @GF-wf8rt
    @GF-wf8rt Před 2 lety +3

    Love to watch your videos. Such in-depth analysis. Truly entertaining

  • @maelradec6766
    @maelradec6766 Před 2 lety +2

    Lance with foil on his teeth thinking he was going to be the terminator lmfao

  • @gallyt00r
    @gallyt00r Před 2 lety +1

    The second still stands up today.. such a great film

  • @mmickle6191
    @mmickle6191 Před 2 lety +4

    This is an incredible film. It's kind of weird to see the deleted scenes of the first one, they really were planning the Cyberdyne stuff for the second film back then.

  • @redohealer2
    @redohealer2 Před 2 lety +3

    Just instantly decided to jump from what I watching straight to this.

  • @D33Lux
    @D33Lux Před rokem +2

    The Terminator series is another example of how incredible the 20th century was with movies. Michael Biehn was IMHO the star of The Terminator...he wasn't playing Kyle Reese...he IS Kyle Reese. I don't see any other actor doing a better job.

  • @OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051

    I love it when i find a decent CZcams channel with decent content to watch, well done on this. great video 👊

  • @prismssj8532
    @prismssj8532 Před 2 lety +4

    *I'll Be Back intensifies*

  • @daemonblackfyre3238
    @daemonblackfyre3238 Před 2 lety +5

    Skynet got our boy Arnold as a prisoner. 😭😭

  • @YusufGinnah
    @YusufGinnah Před 2 lety

    The Terminator background music when on the chase/attack is just as iconic as the Jaws soundtrack...
    And created a similar fear when first watching the movie...
    😎👍🏼

  • @RNemy509
    @RNemy509 Před 2 lety +1

    I saw this movie in the theater when I was 9 and it forever left an impact. It cemented my interest in sci-fi

  • @hydrasfang
    @hydrasfang Před 2 lety +9

    Do you think you could do a video on the Intelligent Deathclaws of the Fallout Series or maybe a video on the Forced Evolutionary Virus and what it can do to different humans, animals, and plants? Also weaponized learning virus that would give the terminators the ability to ask why and question everything.

  • @satan899
    @satan899 Před 2 lety +3

    Someone needs to make a movie called “The Paperclip Apocalypse”
    It would be hilarious but also having a very serious lesson behind it

  • @anotherwolff3650
    @anotherwolff3650 Před rokem +1

    in 84 i watched that movie in the cinema 12x times and manymanymany time at home on VHS, DVD, BluRay..... :)
    It is still a masterpiece.

  • @angellorenzoa
    @angellorenzoa Před 2 lety +1

    That OG reasoning is killer funny 🤣

  • @SebasTian58323
    @SebasTian58323 Před 2 lety +7

    In my opinion, the first three movies are great, while the third isn't as good as the first two, it's still a fun movie and shows how Skynet is evolving and making the Terminators harder and harder to kill while also showing that eventually, technology always evolves past human control(at least in the terminator universe)

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Před rokem +2

      If you're going for the whole franchise, the T-X's dirty trick of usurping the T-1s is _exactly_ what Genisys does. Travels back in time, kickstarts itself, and sometimes subverts a Connor.

  • @TheRibFeast
    @TheRibFeast Před 2 lety +4

    Had someone call today for a dinner reservation, when asked for the name I was met with "Sarah Connor". Hilarity unit activated.

  • @jarenmckinney8580
    @jarenmckinney8580 Před 2 lety +2

    wooow a 25 min video from Films? yes please!

  • @venomfang8560
    @venomfang8560 Před rokem +1

    The lowering of T-800 at the end of T2 always got me.😔

  • @ListPosts
    @ListPosts Před 2 lety +4

    So, what you're saying is, paperclips could end humanity?

  • @bryanbaise1
    @bryanbaise1 Před 2 lety +3

    Now the ultimate question.... Which is better? T1 Or T2?

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 Před 2 lety +2

    Terminator is among the greatest sci-fi horror/thriller franchises simply because it's not only possible, but some would argue it's either likely or an eventuality.

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 Před rokem

      Autonomous drone swarms 😬☠️

  • @sidharthcs2110
    @sidharthcs2110 Před 2 lety +1

    First two ........... Chef's kiss

  • @pyronite59
    @pyronite59 Před 2 lety +9

    Technology is great, if only we could’ve stopped it’s advancement before the emergence of Facebook and Twitter. We just didn’t realize the true horror of what we were unleashing on the world!

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 Před 2 lety +9

    If didn't know any better I'd wager that about every "hero" Terminator at the end once the "learn" function is enabled after awhile ACTUALLY would do what we think of as defection. All the Arnie bots seem to act like it as much as a machine can be expected. Even in the TV show 888-"Cameron" seems to fully commit to the cause as something of a free choice save for the one or 2 times in the short lived an over too soon tv show where she was tasked to be a classic "bad guy" or at least so very "LIKELY" that she had to be reset/disabled to reboot to be sure...

    • @zombieshoot4318
      @zombieshoot4318 Před rokem

      In some of the novels that followed the first two movies there lots of Terminators that turn against Skynet and join up with humans to fight Skynet. Once their chips are flipped from read only to learn mode they eventually turn against Skynet. It's also mentioned in the books that the T-1000 Liquid Metal terminator was made in very low numbers because it couldn't have the chip restriction like the T-800 and Skynet was afraid the T-1000 would always turn on it. Not necessarily to ally with humans but just to turn against Skynet. Which it did. (We also see the T-1001 turn on Skynet in the Sarah Conner Chronicles. Maybe they got that idea for the show from the novels.) Also that the T-1000 was designed to hunt down rogue terminators.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 Před rokem

      @@zombieshoot4318 if T-1000 decides to turn on it... Wonder if Skynet could ever possibly have nightmares of one deciding to defect to John's forces an decided to gift a critical part of skynet to it..
      I hear the Epic/legendary T/X. Was ALSO an anti Terminator Terminator too.. pretty sure she'd best a 1000 of any type of really WANTED too. Basically an army couldn't stop a model like THAT'S defection is what I gathered. BUT I heard on this they have like you mentioned "read only" chips or limited learning abilities or even kill switches should a model of THAT kinda caliber got any such ideas

  • @mferdez2066
    @mferdez2066 Před 2 lety +1

    First two movies are my favorite . They are the Greatest movies of all time.

  • @Danie1_l
    @Danie1_l Před rokem +1

    The paper clip war, one of the most horrifying wars out there

  • @davidbricejr.7340
    @davidbricejr.7340 Před 2 lety +3

    Absolutely relentless 👍

  • @psybovine
    @psybovine Před 2 lety +34

    As absurd as the "Paperclip Apocalypse" idea *sounds*, consider that a Facebook-built AI's cores were programmed to speak to each other in english. At some point, they started warping the english into garbled nonsense that none of the engineers could understand, but the cores were somehow understanding each other perfectly. The engineers panicked and shut down the AI, not knowing what the fuck was going on.
    An AI was given a human language, told "use this to talk", and they did. And then they found away to use it *better*. Most likely, in a situation where an AI like Skynet had control of nuclear weapons, it wouldn't be a situation where it used nukes to preserve its own life. It would use the nukes because "Hey, all these idiot humans have all these nukes, but maybe they don't know how to use them? TIME TO SHOW THEM HOW TO USE THEM"

    • @theredtrain
      @theredtrain Před 2 lety +1

      Tell me more... very interesting

    • @markcadieux3445
      @markcadieux3445 Před 2 lety +3

      The idea of 2 computers linking up and forming their own language for world domination was explored in The Forbin Project in 1970.

    • @iAmEbolaWoT
      @iAmEbolaWoT Před rokem

      Do you have a source for this? Never heard of that.

  • @jamespeters2859
    @jamespeters2859 Před 2 lety

    Best most interesting review of Terminator’s I’ve watched. Cheers. 👊🏼

  • @warmist8197
    @warmist8197 Před rokem

    The scream of "TERMINATOR"! by the guards when they breach the bunker of the survivors in the future is STILL chilling even after seeing it several times.

  • @pvsfilms7173
    @pvsfilms7173 Před 2 lety +3

    Aight!

  • @julesvox
    @julesvox Před 2 lety +8

    Reese tells Sarah that he comes from a possible future, like in multiverse theory. But it's also predetermined that Kyle is John's father and the T800's chip leads to the creation of Skynet. Bit of a plothole, I guess.

    • @hatchett151
      @hatchett151 Před 2 lety +1

      It is only implied the Kyle is John's father. The guy that breaks up with her over the phone with the Porsche very well could be the father. If you were going to tell your kid about an absentee father, would you rather tell your kid is a hero or some yuppie price. If you look at it this way, there is no time paradox.

    • @generalgrevious815
      @generalgrevious815 Před 2 lety

      From her perspective its one possible future is how he specifically explains it.
      But he also tells the police he doesnt really know for sure how it all works as "he didnt build the damn thing" lol

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 Před 2 lety

      @@hatchett151 c'mon now :/

  • @jeramieowens9677
    @jeramieowens9677 Před rokem

    Beautifully done sir, succinct, accurate and entertaining. Thank you

  • @ttrestle
    @ttrestle Před 2 lety +2

    Uploading late today! But I’ll take it and love it. I clicked on this faster then the terminator shot the guy who sold him guns.

  • @saeklin
    @saeklin Před 2 lety +3

    The best solution to the paradox is that Sarah was already pregnant before Kyle was sent back and simply didn't know. Though after Dark Fate, its now possible that Skynet emerges naturally again, sending a T800 back to kill Sarah Conner and resetting everything. Multiple different timelines just looping back and around, up and down, forever like a celtic knot.

  • @Kilroy_washere
    @Kilroy_washere Před 2 lety +3

    Neat

  • @Ludacar
    @Ludacar Před 2 lety

    Great video. The first 2 movies are classics and James Cameron is brilliant.

  • @Gstar5150
    @Gstar5150 Před rokem

    My favorite theme music from the Movie was the tunnel chase, love the part where it sounds like metal bars clanging.

  • @Zurround
    @Zurround Před 2 lety +3

    I posted on a different thread that if Dark Horse comix ever wanted to do a Predator vs Terminator crossover story (they did alien vs predator vs terminator but that was a mess I mean JUST terminator vs predator no xenomorphs) that a great plot device to justify the fact that Dutch from Predator looked just like the Terminator would be this:
    We know that they needed a human victim to take DNA from for the cloning process to grow the flesh on the endoskeletons so how about that unlucky person just happens to have been DUTCH some years after defeating the Predator?

  • @SkyFly19853
    @SkyFly19853 Před 2 lety +5

    Then, they have destroyed this great franchise with Terminator 6... ( the dark disaster )...

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 Před 2 lety +1

      Unless.. of course... There's a number 7 that ties into the other 6 BUT undos ALL of "Dark Fate"... Which, let's all be honest, is bout the only way "Dark Fate" can an will become acceptable.

    • @SkyFly19853
      @SkyFly19853 Před 2 lety

      @@robertagu5533
      and let's hope you are right about that... the last hope for this dying franchise...

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 Před 2 lety

      @@SkyFly19853 one the few good things about a franchise where Time and it's control an manipulation are key and very import elements. Is even very shitty timelines CAN come into being BUT can be made acceptable to one and all by just making a WAY better following movie and including the shitty one, least parts of it, or key parts of it in there in a way thats cool an makes sense... Then all sudden "Dark Fate" suddenly can be acceptable when everyone KNOWS it'll make sense later sense such timeline divergences CAN be possible. It's putting it back we'd have to worry about on top of the "fix" movie being worthy of the rest of the franchise an ALSO made to fix what "Fate" screwed up.

  • @vadersfather1248
    @vadersfather1248 Před 2 lety +1

    Apart from empire strikes back I consider terminator two one of the best sequels ever

  • @JohnH20111
    @JohnH20111 Před rokem +1

    Rest In Peace, Stan Winston