Nordhavn 46 Haul Out Survey - JMYS
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2022
- The survey is the most important aspect of every trawler transaction. It demands an inspection of the vessel both in and out of the water. A day (or two) is spent testing and demonstrating onboard equipment so the professional surveyors can assess and share their opinion on condition, suitability, and market value.
In order to obtain your boat loan and/or insurance coverage, you will need a “pre-purchase survey”. JMYS always recommend that our buyers have a diesel inspector in addition to a credentialed surveyor.
Coordinating the underway demonstration (sea trial), haul out and dockside inspections is a balancing act of people, places, dates and timing. Buyers have a lot to learn in a short period of time and seller’s want to show their boat is ship shape.
When the day arrives, it’s best to have a sense of what to expect as it can feel overwhelming.
If you haven’t sold or purchased a boat, there is a good chance you aren’t aware of all that goes on during the hustle and bustle of a survey day. The boat quickly becomes crowded with different professionals moving about to complete their various tasks, and the current and future owners, along with their respective brokers, are onboard as well to oversee the survey and ask questions along the way.
Jeff is a seasoned survey participant, often involved in two or more each month - traveling all over the country. He has attended hundreds of surveys and he loves knowing that he will learn something new each time, it’s part of what drives him to make sure his clients, be they buyers and/or sellers, get the most out of this intense experience.
This video focuses on the sea trial, haul out and survey of Partida, a 1991 Nordhavn 46. She was evaluated in Baja Naval, Ensenada, Mexico. Partida had a comprehensive examination during the haul out and underway demonstration.
The team hired by the buyers to do the inspections are shown doing their thing. The day wraps up with the all-important “findings” in with diesel mechanic, Phillip Jones and hull surveyor Kells Christian.
Thank you to everyone involved for allowing us to share this action-filled day with others.
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Jeff, many thanks to you and your camera operator for taking the time to shoot another interesting video.
John: Thank you. Very proud to have had my daughter, Elle, as the camera person. She is a very capable yachtsman in her own right and it was great to spend the day with her while I was working.
Love Sea Trials and Surveys ! For a 31 year old boat it looks nice! You did a great job cramming a full day into 41 minutes! Thanks for sharing Jeff! 😎👍⚓
Aloha Captain Rick! Thank you for watching. Very busy day.
Always love your videos. Very informative insight into the survey process. Thank you!
Doug: Thank you for your nice note.
A video on the boat process I had not seen or even thought about before. Thanks for this.
Mandurath: Thank you for watching and commenting. It is a very important day for all parties - buyers, sellers, brokers and, of course the "hired hands" on the survey team, the yard lift operator, etc. A lot to coordinate and complete in a short amount of time.
Super helpful video. I look forward to the day when I'm a buyer.
James: Glad you liked it and good luck in your search phase of future buying.
I have been in love with the Nordhavn 46 since the early 90's. I read Voyaging Under Power and have have lusted after one of these amazing boats ever since! I'm grateful to see this process. Great video. Thank you.
Rob: There are about 80 of the 46's out cruising so I hope you can find one when you start looking. Thank you for watching and sending in your nice note.
Thank you for this video. Very informative to this novice boater/planner infatuated with trawler life.
Eric: Thank you for watching and for your nice note, there is a lot to think about in the buying process.
Thanks for another great, informative video of what a in-depth survey should look like. Like usual Jeff, you have a great team, putting out a great product. And I can tell, you really love your job.
Larry: Thank you. A lot is accomplished during the survey process and if you haven't done it before it can be a bit overwhelming. Yes, I am very fortunate to have found my calling, and I learn something new every day!
I was so involved with this whole process, living with boats needs so much attention all the time, it is what it is all the time, loved this
CR: Thank you for your note, yes it does require constant attention.
Thanks Jeff, very interesting and useful film.
Matt: Thank you!
Great video. We even went thru this process buying our 23 foot powerboat in 2008, since we purchased it used. Not as many systems, but for us, well worth the cost.
Jimmy: You absolutely need a survey to understand what you are buying, and a current survey is a requirement for insurance in most cases.
This is a very nice boat . Thank you for the video . Greetings from the Netherlands
Bert: Thank you for watching and greetings back to you from California!
Very timely video for me. We are finishing up the survey and doing sea trial on a 52 ft Hatteras tomorrow. It's a private sale from owners we know well on a boat berthed next to us for the past two years, and but there was never a doubt that we would do a complete survey. It is always money well spent. Not just for peace of mind regarding the boat's condition but also for what you learn from the experts, no matter how much experience you have yourself.
George: Great, good luck with your purchase. Yes, I agree, it's hard not to learn something every survey.
Good luck would be really intrigued in knowing if you want move forward with the boat thanks
Thanks Jeff, great video!
Elroy: Thank you very much!
This was a very interesting video. Thanks!
WWI: Glad you found it interesting, thank you for watching!
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing.
MWRCRFT: Thank you for watching!
very good video about the inspection process.
STI: Thank you for watching!
Thanks Jeff, very interesting.
Michael: Thank you for watching.
Great Video Jeff, great input and advise for when we get to finally buy our Nordy. Pity not a lot available in Aussie. Trevor, Australia
Trevor: Thank you. I've done three surveys in Australia, it is a very universal process. The market availability will shift and you'll find a Nordy down under!
I am learning so much from you Jeff. Thank you.
I'm going to try to make it to Baltimore, I do hope to see you there.
PS Always like, now I'm subscribed.
Dances: Thank you, I enjoy sharing what I'm seeing and have been doing this for quite some time. I look forward to seeing you in Baltimore for TrawlerFest end of September 2022!
I like the percussion hull inspection, very high tech.
Nuts: Yes, as simple as using a screwdriver to turn a screw...the percussion test is the easiest way to "sound" for hollows or delamination's - it also let's the surveyor 'canvas' the vessel to check for uniformity in construction. Steel boat surveyors use ultrasound (audio gauge) to test for thickness and wastage. Funny how the normal human senses of sight, sound, touch and smell are important natural resources for inspection.
Great video Jeff. The video is almost as great as the shirt.
Lucky: Thank you and I love the Reyn Spooner brand as you well know!
Excellent. I have wondered about this process.
Remy: Thank you for watching, happy to hear you found this helpful
@@JeffMerrillYachts Very much. I hope to buy a Nordhavn someday when I have more experience.
That shirt Jeff! spins my eyeballs out :)
Phil: Well, that wasn't my intention...
Jeff Great Video! Thank you. I think Kells has a different priority system. My spidy sense tells me he is glossing over very important systems by laughing and smiling it away. Just my $.02.
Vagabond: Similar comment to PS below. The video only shows a small part of the story. Kells is a very serious, hard working surveyor who has years of experience and incredible insight. He has his priorities right - primarily safety, then reliability and is operating systems, etc. It is a lot to do in a day and quite possible to miss something, but he does focus on the big issues and the small issues and provided a detailed report to the buyers with his findings including many digital photos
Very interesting. Boat looks good for its age
Mfhairstream: Thank you for watching, yes, this truly is an exceptionally well maintained Nordhavn 46
Your buyer and seller, surveyor and diesel mechanic, were all very generous to permit you to record and share this experience with your community. Thank you for producing this video and giving us peek into a real life survey experience.
Was there a sea trial? if yes, I am also curious as to what information is gathered and reported.
Mark: Spot on, very true. Everyone previewed before we put out the final. Hard to show it all, but this was a reasonable sampler. Thank you for your nice note.
Mark K: Yes - we did a sea trial (we call it an underway demonstration). What is tested? Steering, stabilization, RPMS, all systems, nav/com, back down engine mounts, there is a lot to test, and the information is shared in person and written up in the report.
This is a very useful video for anybody who is contemplating buying a boat. You should have explained who pays for this survey and sea trial, and for all the expert chexks and advice...the buyer or the seller?
Mike: Thank you. Hard to edit a 12 hour day into a short video. The buyer pays for any and all of -surveyor, diesel mechanic, oil samples and haul out yard (plus power wash). The seller is responsible for making the boat available and either operating the vessel or hiring a captain to do so.
Can anyone tell me any clear advantages to a Portugese bridge? On this Nord it does have a walk through to the bow, but how common is that arrangement?
Wallace: Being able to go out on deck in rough seas forward of the pilothouse in the protected Portuguese bridge deck walkway is like having a secure balcony. The door to the foredeck is necessary access so you can go forward to your windlass, for dock lines, etc. Welcome other comments.
Very interesting
Shane: Thank you.
My buddy bought a 43' Searay. When the boat was pulled it was very obvious there were blisters below the waterline on the hull. The owner immediately thought it was fiberglass damage...my buddy's surveyor told him it was only surface bubbles in the bottom paint...since the owner assumed it was fiberglass damage that would require significant costs to repair, my buddy knocked down a huge amount of money off the asking price.
David: Often blisters are in the bottom paint, not the gelcoat. Seems like the seller should have been told the truth about that, doesn't seem fair...
@@JeffMerrillYachts I forgot to mention the seller had his own survey done and his surveyor told him it was fiberglass problems, so my buddy took the chance his guy was correct, but used the info to knock down the price...it was only paint issues...I knew I should've put this in my first response...sorry
@@davidparadis490 That seems more reasonable, the survey is all about finding things out, not trying to hide something from the other party.
So, If the zincs were failed, why did they not get replaced right then?
2005: The seller still owns the boat, buyer normally waits to spend money on something like this until they own it. I think the sellers were willing to refresh the anodes, but didn't have replacements available.
So if the “Wing” propeller folds when not in use, does that mean that it can not operate in reverse?
Tcoker: Thought I had already replied. The rotation spreads the propeller blades open in either direction, but the pitch of the blades is designed for forward, and they do go in reverse, just not as effective. Feathering blades (different type) will switch to a good bite in forward or reverse
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Gerhard: Thank you
Could you give a cost associated with a survey of this particular vessel?
Greg: It varies by region and in this case there were travel expenses since both surveyors had to commute from San Diego. I wrote an article "All about the survey" in the Passagemaker magazine section of JMYS.com that goes into more detail with estimates. For Kells, Philip, the haul out and oil samples it was about $5,000.00 in January 2022 for this survey. Feel free to email me for more specifics.
What price was this advertised for
GN: The PDF brochure from the listing is on the Listings Sold section of JMYS.com for all of the details, the asking price was $449,000.00
How much does a survey like this cost ?
Robert: Many variables, length of boat, number of days to complete, travel, etc. We recommend a hull surveyor and a diesel mechanic. You also have the haul out yard. I don't have the actual totals for this survey, but surveyor, haul out and diesel mechanic were approximately $5,000.00.
There was a bunch of stuff not checked by Kells that I thought would be important. Am I over cautious? It feels like he spent more time on paint than on important things like the water maker and batteries?
IMHO, I think since this is a "sale inspection" it's going to be more about the maintenance trends, not a complete let's get it fixed inspection. Time / Scheduling constraints.
P S: Kells does an extraordinary job, is detailed and thorough. A video like this has to gloss over a lot of important aspects. Kells was all over the boat, inside and out. The debrief was just part of his end day comments. I would not hesitate to recommend Kells to anyone who is looking for a great surveyor.
@@fredbullmer273 I hear what you saying. However, if I pay a guy to do a survey and he tells me he got all the chip marks on the paint but he only looked through a tiny hole to see the batteries and didn’t check the water maker (vital parts of the boat imo) you better believe I’m sending him back to go and check. Having said that, I trust Jeff Merrill 100% and if he says the guy is above board, well then that’s good enough for me. And to be honest, my opinion don’t matter, it’s the buyer’s opinion that matters in the end.
Reverse polarity surprises me
Frank: It's not that uncommon, and an easy fix, which has been completed. Many boats have it and don't know.
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Thank you!
Such a noisy boat
Ocean: What part is noisy?
This boat is 30 years old, must have many faults.
Jon: Time always develops age related issues. This 46 has been very well looked after by all who have sailed her. The costs to fix, upgrade and repair never go away. If you did not know the year she was built I think it would be difficult to guess her age.
Not if it used regularly, faults get fixed as they arise.
I don't think you understood my comment, if a Skilled man inspects a 30 year old boat or car which is regularly used he will find some faults, which he did.
It was not a Criticism of the Trawler.
@@jonathanwilliamson1931 Even a new boat has issues. There is always something that will appreciate some attention.
The paranoid guy with the mask, pulling mask up and down, picking in nose and coughing all over. If you're that scared stay home.
Porsche: This was filmed in January 2022, in Mexico, and there were travel and Covid concerns. Why not applaud someone for getting outside rather than hiding at home? No one was paranoid, masks are annoying, no one likes them. Thank you for watching.
I'am really impressed about the survey and this video. Very interesting, but for me owning a boat would not work. To much work and to high costs to enjoy the boat really. Spending the day checking engines, temperatures, meters and valves, cleaning filters, changing oil, making spreadsheets with numbers and looking out for other vessels or weather conditions is no fun for me.
Wim: Thank you for watching and commenting. Out clients are owner/operators, they look after the boat, it is part of the joy, not just ending up in fun places. Keeps you sharp in retirement and is actually very therapeutic for most who do it, certainly not for everyone. An alternative -,you could charter a boat or own a boat that has your crew do all of the work, then it might be more fun, but also cost more money!