Just got home from work, sitting on my deck in a summer thunderstorm, drinking a cold beer, and watching you work, epic! She is really coming along beautifully!
I can hardly wait to see this work of art in steam! This is one of the model locomotives that may even look better unpainted (or with a coat of clear lacquer) than in the proper original colours.
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. So helpful for someone like myself who lives far from the nearest live steam club, with no one to ask for help from with in practical traveling distance. Dave. Kangaroo Island, South Australia.
Looking good mate 👌🏼 ive been watching your vids today as well as looking online for a lathe and mill 😂. Looking forward to seeing this build to the end mate thanks for sharing
Wonderful Progress! I've been hard a working on the 2 LNER V's I am almost done making the boilers, The tenders are nearly complete. The chassis are a few weeks work of running on air. Love the progress. Cheers mate!
Looking good now mate, great set up for the smoke box adapter ring on the lathe, I so miss being a turner, and a miller and a grinder. I worked in a millwrights section in a ball bearing factory, we did all sorts of mad one off jobs, some crazy set up's, happy days...Allen.
Thanks Allen. To be honest, the times when you need devise something out of the ordinary to complete the job are the most satisfying. It would have been the easy option to take it to a bigger lathe but thanks to the virus I had to use the grey matter for once!!! An old engineer once told me 'It may not be quick or elegant, but there is always a way'... Cheers Craig
no23mk2 g'day Craig I'm still in hospital but I found out that I have staff like my leg. I'm not looking forward to this but it's the treatable one however I'm here to Wednesday or a more keep well talk to you soon John
Very Nice! Great craftsmanship, I have just recently started on a 0-4-2 Chloe (Hawaiian sugar plantation loco) and can't wait to get to the point you're at. So excited and again great work, will be watching the rest. Best regards, J
YES Big rings are a challenge. I get a new boiler for a 5 inch Hunslet which is 6 1/4 inches outside diameter plus 3/8 each side for a flange. 5/8 thick steel. Using the thin 4 jaw it was 2 mm too thick in front of the bed? I milled this out and it fitted. turned down to the jaws and I moved it out again. Then could finish it off. The middle will become a new wheel tyre.
That was weird. I watched your first video yesterday on the smokebox door and were dead chuffed with that and then later in the morning I got a notification of what I thought was another video. Blimey I thought he's cracking on with things, but it was the notification for the smokebox door video. Somewhat disappointed I plodded on with the rest of my day and then low and behold another video did turn up. Happy Days! Anyway it's coming on a treat well done. Keep Safe.
676/5000SALUTATION. BRAZIL IS MY COUNTRY. I have a residence. HERE, FEW PEOPLE HAVE ADOPTED THIS MODALITY FOR LACK OF RESOURCES AND INFORMATION ABOUT LIVE STEAM LOCOMOTIVES. I AM LEAVING THE "HO" SCALE TO JOIN THIS WONDERFUL MODE. I WANTED TO KNOW THE LORD, WHERE CAN I PURCHASE THE LOCOMOTIVE CONSTRUCTION PLANS IN THE 1/5 OR 1/8 SCALE OF THE 7 1/4 CALIBRATION. I WOULD LIKE TO START BUILDING ONE OF THESE WONDERS TO ENCOURAGE OTHER COLLEAGUES TO JOIN THIS WONDERFUL HOBBY AND POSSIBLE TO CREATE A GROUP, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE HERE IN MY COUNTRY. THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE LORD FOR INTUITIVELY SHARING YOUR WONDERFUL WORK. THANK YOU
Thank you for your kind words. You can buy drawings and castings etc from Blackgates Engineering. www.blackgates.co.uk/catalogue.html in the UK. They ship worldwide. I am sure you will enjoy your locomotive building project.
Craig, Had you though of using a steel mandrel and beating the smoke box into a more perfect round using that mandrel. It is a technique used to make and finish organ pipes. Yes, the allor is softer but the principal is one of cold forging.
Great workmanship, Always look forward to the next video,, A word on fixing your boiler thou, You will find that the boiler will move for and aft when in steam from expansion ,It move's about 1/8 on mine , You can see this when looking at the cladding near the cab front, and it returns when cold, Most boilers are just resting on the pad's and move in the smokebox, and are retained on the rear by the expansion brackets not pins or bolts.
Thank you Gary. Only the very front of this boiler is retained fore and aft on the front boiler support. All of the boiler from here backwards is free to expand and contract. Previous video shows expansion brackets at rear between frames and boiler foundation ring.
@@no23mk2 That good then, when you said you were going to pin the pads, I thought you were going to do the front and back, That would of been trouble, Keep the videos coming , as I said I look forward to these, it is a nice build.
getting to be a handful glad mines 3 1/2 , looking good been thinking about the outer skin on mine cant find any info just wondering how you were going to approach it on yours, got loads of photos but head spinning where pipes and fitting go under or on top anyway thanks for the videos keeps me going
Started to watch these a few days ago and I’ve found them fascinating to see you build this fine loco. I must admit the 9F is one of my favourite steam locomotives. Percentage wise how far are you away from completing this wonderful model?
Ohhh she's looking good Craig mate did I spot the chimney and blast pipe casting on the bench. This is the part I've been waiting for looking forward to part two already. I'm on stripping paint and grease on the chassis one of those jobs you wish you never started lol
Yes Mark - I keep looking at those bloody castings and keep thinking how the F**k am I going to machine them!!! Do your's first then tell me how its done! 😊
@@no23mk2 if you dont know mate where all doomed the brit has the pipe coming up out of the cylinders and almost round the smokebox and down into the bottom of the blast pipe and the drawings my grandfather left have a choke upto the chimney how I'm going to do that is beyond me it looks as tho I could have it snug into the chimney but I need a lathe and the skill I lack both lol really cant wait to see how you tackle it especially with a double chimneys still I'll learn as you do picked up a good book today called model steam engines for beginners it should keep me busy until you next video mate
Thanks Paul. Yes the boiler will have a layer of insulation which will then be covered by a wrapper (cladding). The small step on the outside diameter of the boiler ring is where the wrapper will locate. Cheers Craig
Thank you Adrian. I'm not a member at Leeds SMEE. I used to be a member at Bradford MES - unfortunately I never had time to attend. I may re-consider further down the line when I have a working loco.
Hi Robert, I use a Sievert propane torch for most silver soldering and heating work. I also have an oxy-propane torch for the bigger jobs needing more heat. I will be using both when I eventually get round to soldering the vertical boiler.
@@no23mk2 thank you once again! I am going to buy both like you have. Your doing such a good job, many people recommend your channel on different forums! Well done!
Get yourself some Harris Black High Temp Brazing flux, It comes premixed in 1lb jars for 10gbp it is the greatest flux ever I've quite literally thrown my white flux in the garbage after using that.
Would like to give it a go. Where did you see it for 10 quid a lb? Over here seems to be around £26 per 1/2 lb! imported. Cant find a UK stockist. Cheers Craig.
@@TKS60163 I meant to say that it IS for riding, and that any engines in 3.5", 5", and 7.25" are always for riding,... Some people at the club I go to use r/c controls for the throttle and stuff on smaller engines but you still need to be able to hand-fire the engine from onboard
Bin thinking about the smoke box door. So instead of the cast. And the inclusions. And the thinning of that. Just. A bronze blank 8x1 inch. Not saying that I could do it better. I mean wow that's amazing. Just my comment. M
I think that the train. Your making is amazing Really. But to make it a bit more interesting. Liven it up a bit. The smoke box door. With the 10 inch radius. I would yous a 10 or 11 inch bar stock. M A foot note.. I think that that the train is truly amazing. Really M
Thanks Mark. I'm pleased you're liking the loco, but I'm not in the business of making exciting videos. I simply record bits and pieces of my loco project for anyone that might be interested.
How someone makes turning on a lathe more interesting god only knows but just so you know people that are watching these videos are entertained by learning and seeing a locomotive being built peace by peace. There is also people like me that are learning little by little to work on my own locos. I personally would watch each part turned milled and drilled in actual speed just to learn more lol dont change a thing Craig not that I think you would
Thanks Mark. Interestingly, the only reason I started posting on CZcams was so that my old pal who had retired to Scarborough could keep up with my progress. It's unbelievable and very encouraging how so many like minded folk have found it of interest. Cheers Craig
@@no23mk2 I was often called a weirdo playing with toy trains as they put they been my mates since I started watching your channel and others plucked up courage to rebuild my grandfather locos they was round all the time one has since got his own and wanting to build a track in his garden but yeah its surprising how many are like minded once you get talking and what I love about this hobby is that everyone is always more than will to help and give advice and no oneupmanship every one likes they habby for what it is and that's love for engineering and locos whether big or small and I'm glad you have carried on posting videos mate helped me tonnes with the Britannia
Well said Mark. I for one have been called a lot worse! Do what you enjoy and don't worry about what folk might think. This hobby is interesting and absorbing on so many levels. As you say - genuine people with no oneupmanship. Could be worse - could be down the golf club discussing how to hit a little white ball around a field with a bunch of social climbers!
14:48 - Wonderful work-around!
16:35 - I expect a cute Chinese shuffle-dancer to show up and keep time!
Yes it was a catchy beat! Cheers.
Just got home from work, sitting on my deck in a summer thunderstorm, drinking a cold beer, and watching you work, epic! She is really coming along beautifully!
Cheers Graham. You just painted a beautiful picture in my mind's eye!
I can hardly wait to see this work of art in steam!
This is one of the model locomotives that may even look better unpainted (or with a coat of clear lacquer) than in the proper original colours.
Thank you Kai.
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. So helpful for someone like myself who lives far from the nearest live steam club, with no one to ask for help from with in practical traveling distance. Dave. Kangaroo Island, South Australia.
You're very welcome Dave.
Cheers Craig
forget that last comment looks like i am missing a drawing as told there's one for the cabin, thanks again for the videos
Pleased there is a drawing available. Would be a right pain in the proverbials without one!
Clever set up on the large ring Craig, I am loving this project and following every step!
Thanks again Mark.
Looking good mate 👌🏼 ive been watching your vids today as well as looking online for a lathe and mill 😂. Looking forward to seeing this build to the end mate thanks for sharing
Cheers J P. Be careful - once you make a start its very addictive!
Looking fantastic, great to see how it goes together
Thank you.
Looks great!!! A neat trick to get the job done!
Cheers Terry. As they say, 'necessity is the mother of innovation' ;-)
Fantastic workmanship!
Thank you!
Wonderful Progress! I've been hard a working on the 2 LNER V's I am almost done making the boilers, The tenders are nearly complete. The chassis are a few weeks work of running on air. Love the progress. Cheers mate!
Thanks Steve. Well done with your progress on 'double trouble'! Looking forward to seeing them.
Eyup Craig Brilliant work mate! just superb, thanks for sharing
Na then Roy - thanks again!
Brilliant work looking good, looking forward to next instalment.
Thank you Michael.
Looking good now mate, great set up for the smoke box adapter ring on the lathe, I so miss being a turner, and a miller and a grinder. I worked in a millwrights section in a ball bearing factory, we did all sorts of mad one off jobs, some crazy set up's, happy days...Allen.
Thanks Allen. To be honest, the times when you need devise something out of the ordinary to complete the job are the most satisfying. It would have been the easy option to take it to a bigger lathe but thanks to the virus I had to use the grey matter for once!!! An old engineer once told me 'It may not be quick or elegant, but there is always a way'...
Cheers Craig
An other very good vid. Watching each step from the start. Looking forward to the finished project.
Cheers Stephen.
Looking more and more like the real one. Nice job, Craig. The press fits are interesting.
Thank you Robert
It's looking good! Kudos on the chuck extender, I'm going to use that technique. Hope everyone is safe.
Thanks Craig - Where there's a will, there's a way! All safe here. Keep well yourself.
G'day mate you explained it very well and that's amazing! The whole engine is a credit to you, I'll give you a call so just got out of hospital John
Cheers John - Hope you're alright mate - speak soon.
no23mk2 g'day Craig I'm still in hospital but I found out that I have staff like my leg. I'm not looking forward to this but it's the treatable one however I'm here to Wednesday or a more keep well talk to you soon John
Looking very impressive!
Thank you. It's also getting very heavy!!!
Very Nice! Great craftsmanship, I have just recently started on a 0-4-2 Chloe (Hawaiian sugar plantation loco) and can't wait to get to the point you're at. So excited and again great work, will be watching the rest. Best regards, J
Thank you and enjoy your new loco project!
YES Big rings are a challenge. I get a new boiler for a 5 inch Hunslet which is 6 1/4 inches outside diameter plus 3/8 each side for a flange. 5/8 thick steel. Using the thin 4 jaw it was 2 mm too thick in front of the bed? I milled this out and it fitted. turned down to the jaws and I moved it out again. Then could finish it off. The middle will become a new wheel tyre.
There's always a way!
Thank you for the video , great work
Cheers Derek.
That was weird. I watched your first video yesterday on the smokebox door and were dead chuffed with that and then later in the morning I got a notification of what I thought was another video. Blimey I thought he's cracking on with things, but it was the notification for the smokebox door video. Somewhat disappointed I plodded on with the rest of my day and then low and behold another video did turn up. Happy Days! Anyway it's coming on a treat well done. Keep Safe.
Cheers Dave - keep safe yer sen!
676/5000SALUTATION. BRAZIL IS MY COUNTRY. I have a residence. HERE, FEW PEOPLE HAVE ADOPTED THIS MODALITY FOR LACK OF RESOURCES AND INFORMATION ABOUT LIVE STEAM LOCOMOTIVES. I AM LEAVING THE "HO" SCALE TO JOIN THIS WONDERFUL MODE. I WANTED TO KNOW THE LORD, WHERE CAN I PURCHASE THE LOCOMOTIVE CONSTRUCTION PLANS IN THE 1/5 OR 1/8 SCALE OF THE 7 1/4 CALIBRATION. I WOULD LIKE TO START BUILDING ONE OF THESE WONDERS TO ENCOURAGE OTHER COLLEAGUES TO JOIN THIS WONDERFUL HOBBY AND POSSIBLE TO CREATE A GROUP, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE HERE IN MY COUNTRY. THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE LORD FOR INTUITIVELY SHARING YOUR WONDERFUL WORK. THANK YOU
Thank you for your kind words. You can buy drawings and castings etc from Blackgates Engineering. www.blackgates.co.uk/catalogue.html in the UK.
They ship worldwide. I am sure you will enjoy your locomotive building project.
Beautiful
Thanks Derek
Craig, Had you though of using a steel mandrel and beating the smoke box into a more perfect round using that mandrel. It is a technique used to make and finish organ pipes. Yes, the allor is softer but the principal is one of cold forging.
Hi Robert. I did consider 'persuading it' but didn't want to risk cracking the joint especially as it will be totally hidden on the completed loco.
Great workmanship, Always look forward to the next video,, A word on fixing your boiler thou, You will find that the boiler will move for and aft when in steam from expansion ,It move's about 1/8 on mine , You can see this when looking at the cladding near the cab front, and it returns when cold, Most boilers are just resting on the pad's and move in the smokebox, and are retained on the rear by the expansion brackets not pins or bolts.
Thank you Gary. Only the very front of this boiler is retained fore and aft on the front boiler support. All of the boiler from here backwards is free to expand and contract. Previous video shows expansion brackets at rear between frames and boiler foundation ring.
@@no23mk2 That good then, when you said you were going to pin the pads, I thought you were going to do the front and back, That would of been trouble, Keep the videos coming , as I said I look forward to these, it is a nice build.
getting to be a handful glad mines 3 1/2 , looking good been thinking about the outer skin on mine cant find any info just wondering how you were going to approach it on yours, got loads of photos but head spinning where pipes and fitting go under or on top anyway thanks for the videos keeps me going
Just seen your forget last comment - comment!
Started to watch these a few days ago and I’ve found them fascinating to see you build this fine loco. I must admit the 9F is one of my favourite steam locomotives. Percentage wise how far are you away from completing this wonderful model?
Cheers Paul - pleased your enjoying the vids - percentage wise I reckon I'm about 60% complete.
That reminded me of the shower scene from psycho.
My lugs are still ringing!
Ohhh she's looking good Craig mate did I spot the chimney and blast pipe casting on the bench. This is the part I've been waiting for looking forward to part two already. I'm on stripping paint and grease on the chassis one of those jobs you wish you never started lol
Yes Mark - I keep looking at those bloody castings and keep thinking how the F**k am I going to machine them!!! Do your's first then tell me how its done! 😊
@@no23mk2 if you dont know mate where all doomed the brit has the pipe coming up out of the cylinders and almost round the smokebox and down into the bottom of the blast pipe and the drawings my grandfather left have a choke upto the chimney how I'm going to do that is beyond me it looks as tho I could have it snug into the chimney but I need a lathe and the skill I lack both lol really cant wait to see how you tackle it especially with a double chimneys still I'll learn as you do picked up a good book today called model steam engines for beginners it should keep me busy until you next video mate
will the boiler have a wrapper? fantastic workmanship
Thanks Paul. Yes the boiler will have a layer of insulation which will then be covered by a wrapper (cladding). The small step on the outside diameter of the boiler ring is where the wrapper will locate.
Cheers Craig
Lovely work that you are doing. I have enjoyed watching your videos on this stunning build. Can I ask, are you a member of Leeds SMEE.
Thank you Adrian. I'm not a member at Leeds SMEE. I used to be a member at Bradford MES - unfortunately I never had time to attend. I may re-consider further down the line when I have a working loco.
Fantastic workmanship! Your lathe is it a Myford 7?
Thank you Nathan, Yes it's a Myford Super 7.
Good evening, can I ask a question? What gas / torch setup do you use for silver soldering? I’m after one that will last me a while :) thanks
Hi Robert, I use a Sievert propane torch for most silver soldering and heating work. I also have an oxy-propane torch for the bigger jobs needing more heat. I will be using both when I eventually get round to soldering the vertical boiler.
@@no23mk2 thank you once again! I am going to buy both like you have.
Your doing such a good job, many people recommend your channel on different forums! Well done!
Get yourself some Harris Black High Temp Brazing flux, It comes premixed in 1lb jars for 10gbp it is the greatest flux ever I've quite literally thrown my white flux in the garbage after using that.
Would like to give it a go. Where did you see it for 10 quid a lb? Over here seems to be around £26 per 1/2 lb! imported. Cant find a UK stockist. Cheers Craig.
@@no23mk2 I just purchase mine through work, Check out Fastenal if they can supply.
I've got a small lathe. Just to say that. I really like cutting bronze. M
Try cutting aluminium bronze - you'll soon change your mind!!
this has been bugging me since you started this project can you sit on the tender and ride it or is it just for running without someone on it?
Engines 3.5" gauge and above are almost always used for riding, so yes
@@jamesm6638 who knows we just have to wait and see
@@TKS60163 I meant to say that it IS for riding, and that any engines in 3.5", 5", and 7.25" are always for riding,... Some people at the club I go to use r/c controls for the throttle and stuff on smaller engines but you still need to be able to hand-fire the engine from onboard
Check out this video at 0:30
Bin thinking about the smoke box door. So instead of the cast. And the inclusions. And the thinning of that. Just. A bronze blank 8x1 inch.
Not saying that I could do it better. I mean wow that's amazing. Just my comment. M
Yes you could do it that way but the casting came with the rest of the loco castings so I used it.
When’s it going to be done
Another 5 years maybe?
Wow
Can you make me a 3751?
I think that the train. Your making is amazing
Really. But to make it a bit more interesting. Liven it up a bit.
The smoke box door. With the 10 inch radius. I would yous a 10 or 11 inch bar stock. M
A foot note.. I think that that the train is truly amazing. Really M
Thanks Mark. I'm pleased you're liking the loco, but I'm not in the business of making exciting videos. I simply record bits and pieces of my loco project for anyone that might be interested.
How someone makes turning on a lathe more interesting god only knows but just so you know people that are watching these videos are entertained by learning and seeing a locomotive being built peace by peace. There is also people like me that are learning little by little to work on my own locos. I personally would watch each part turned milled and drilled in actual speed just to learn more lol dont change a thing Craig not that I think you would
Thanks Mark. Interestingly, the only reason I started posting on CZcams was so that my old pal who had retired to Scarborough could keep up with my progress. It's unbelievable and very encouraging how so many like minded folk have found it of interest. Cheers Craig
@@no23mk2 I was often called a weirdo playing with toy trains as they put they been my mates since I started watching your channel and others plucked up courage to rebuild my grandfather locos they was round all the time one has since got his own and wanting to build a track in his garden but yeah its surprising how many are like minded once you get talking and what I love about this hobby is that everyone is always more than will to help and give advice and no oneupmanship every one likes they habby for what it is and that's love for engineering and locos whether big or small and I'm glad you have carried on posting videos mate helped me tonnes with the Britannia
Well said Mark. I for one have been called a lot worse! Do what you enjoy and don't worry about what folk might think. This hobby is interesting and absorbing on so many levels. As you say - genuine people with no oneupmanship. Could be worse - could be down the golf club discussing how to hit a little white ball around a field with a bunch of social climbers!