I nano coated my Street Triple! - Hydrosilex Review
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Here's a new product I was sent to try - it's a hydrophobic nano-coating you can apply yourself to give your motorcycle (or car, or boat or aeroplane!) that just washed, water beading finish. The theory is it makes it harder for dirt to stick thus keeping your pride and joy cleaner for longer...I've been giving it a try for the last couple of months, here's how I've got on....
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Excellent review, TMF. I had my mother-in-law nano-coated. Anytime I take her out back on the deck for a hosing off, she beads up rather nicely. Thumbs up. Saves me a bunch of time toweling her down. 🏍👍🏍
lol
I haven't spoken to my mother in law for over 18 months as I didn't like to interrupt her....
I gave up waxing the bike years ago when I twigged that the key was to stop the dirt sticking in the first place. Since then I've used cheap spray furniture polish with remarkably similar results, and effort, to the Hydrosilex. Only takes minutes to do the whole bike so not painful to redo if it does not last as long as nano stuff.
I second the furniture polish...£1 can does a great job!
Would you use Mr (Barry) Sheene, or a product supported by a different racer?
Lovely bike.... personally I’d buy a curry for £30.... and get a pint as well.....🍺
I came here for Hydrosex, was disappointed.
these are defo not the only type of coating like this. there are loads, cheaper and by the looks of it work better, at least on initial application, i would imagine longevity too. tac systems moonlight and ADAMS CERAMIC SPRAY COATING very highly recommended with Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax being quite good too. plus the actually use genuine ceramics where as this seems to be a synthetic one. Don't get ripped off by these guys, your paying for something it is not.
Interesting product. I will probably give that a go at some stage - although (like many, I suspect), I already have a garage shelf full of miracle products, all of which are going to save me time, money and energy...
Hendlex do a good range of nano products that I've found good value, and perform very well. No affiliation with the company - there's a lot of bs in this area - the nano element of the product is normally silicon dioxide or silicon carbide. How effective they are depends, to a large extent, on surface preparation, so a spray on product may only give limited protection. The so called "professional" products that we have looked at use a 2 coat system that requires really exacting preparation and application and cost wise is exorbitant for what it is. We have researched many different surface coatings for non automotive industrial applications and had mixed results. The nano stuff does work well on skis though.
Would be nice to see what it works like if bike has been ridden in salty winter conditions foe a week, then washed off.
Protection for all those fragile corrosion magnets that come on modern bikes.
Very similar to P & S Bead maker which is very hot at the moment in the car detailing area... P & S Bead Maker is a Silica based product. They generally last about 2-3 months unless strong detergents are used to clean the car/bike.
Nano coating is not like rainx, no. Its meant to stay on the bike where as rainx would not last long. I've used many nano coats and ceramic coats and the nano coating doesn't last as long as people say. I paid £300 to have it professionally applied and it lasted a month or 2. And a little myth is that they stop scratches, even ceramic does not stop scratches. And this is not the only nano coating you can buy, even R&G do a version of it. Hope you have better luck than me with these products mate
Working well so far....but then I didn't pay £300 for it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer the company that charged that and applied it to my h2 are no longer around. Some of thier products were very good but the nano coat was not much cop. I've since had ceramics put on it and they are definitely harder and make the bike very easy to wash. Unfortunately still not strong enough to prevent scratches! I think the spray on one's like you used are good because it creates a nice layer between bike and crud so all the crap gets washed away very easily with a hose because it just runs off with the water
@@TheMissendenFlyer I believe I paid half the price for the ceramics too, bike was cleaned, prepared and polished then ceramic was applied. Much better than the first company that was recommended by a local to both of us bike dealer.
Dear TMF,
More "snake oil" than real science. It's like being back in the USA wild west with those cure-all potion sellers...
As someone that has worked in the metals and plastics costing industry all my working life, I feel qualified to comment.
It's easy to be drawn into the "nanoparticle, ceramic coating marketing hype. However, this just appears to be another weekly hydrophobic, water-soluble suspension, most likely a silicate or silane. They've been around for decades. Silicate is a really low-cost raw material, so paying a 100x multiple for fancy marketing just goes to show how gullible we can be.
A bit of silicate in water-soluble wax, give it a fancy name, tell people it's "Nano-Particle Ceramic coating, then show them how well water beads off it....really !!!
Nothing new or magic here, just pseudoscience.
Much cheaper car wax or resin polish can't do this for a fraction of the price. I think lot's of your viewers have already figured this out.
Love your videos though, keep them coming.
Tex Rex I’ve seen another video on applying ceramic coatings and the prep involved is a lot. Cleaning, decontamination, machine polishing, and then having the temperature and humidity just right, it’s a big undertaking. If I had a new car, I might give it a go, though for a bike I would just use a high quality paste wax.
Hey Tex Rex, perhaps you could make a recommendation? Situation is, I just reserved a 2019 Bonneville T120 Diamond Edition, so it has chrome on it. I plan on riding the tits off of the thing, with a little bit of off-roading for camping and exploring. I want to apply something to make clean-up as easy as possible, resulting in a near show room finish quickly. What would you recommend? I'm hoping there's something I can apply that is safe for chrome/paint/plastic/rubber, will prevent rust, and make clean-up much easier.
BY THE WAY!: You said "Much cheaper car was or resin polish CAN'T do this for a fraction of the price." I'm pretty sure you meant "CAN do this."
What’s the difference between this and rainx?
@Mike Both types are 'genuine' ceramic coatings, it's simply a case of variation in product: one type is usually a two stage application and will provide longer lasting performance as well as greater protection against swirling, the other (like the demo'd product) designed for quick application and, depending on product, will give you 4-10 weeks hydrophobic protection, but without the additional protection against swirling. I have had Gtechniq CSL + EXO applied to my car, but I will use Gyeon Wetcoat (similar type of product as that shown) as an occasional top-up. For my bike, I've protected paint surfaces with EXO, the rest with ACF50.
@@gtjack9 Rainx is a hydrophillic coating for glass. Coatings for glass and wheels tend to have a hydrophillic molecular structure, as this causes the water to sheet off the surface quickly rather than produce 'beading' like hydrophobic coatings. Rather than water being repelled (phobic - fear), the surface attracts water (phillic - love). The idea is that you want the mass of water to sheet away from the surface rather than sit as beads on the glass. Similarly, the mass of water sheets away brake dust from your wheels.
At the molecular level the difference is seen in the angularity of the molecule.
Whist I don't know the product base for rainx, I expect its basic ingredients will be similar other nano coatings for glass. There will be variations in terms of ease of application and performance, though as a rule those with more 'resins' require even more careful application and provide better performance.
Good review TMF , seems a decent product , I've been following your Vlogs for a few months now and me and the Mrs are loving them keep up the good work buddy 👍🏻
Just a word of advice, don’t use paper towels on your car or bike paintwork as this can induce micro marring and sometimes can have the same effect as wet sanding ( especially with bird droppings ! ) 👍
Interesting product, I already use Rain X which appears to do a similar thing cheaper and works great on motorcycle visors in the rain.
Pretty sure you're not supposed to use Rainx on visors, as it weakens them...?
@@andysatch9150 Its fine 👍www.rainx.co.uk/rain-x-for-plastic-windscreens-and-helmets-now-available/
i'll give it a try thanks for the tip.
I did apply nano coating on a dirty bike. My dirt is now hydrophobic. It's not coming off darm it. Hahaha . TMF is like a camouflage. Never stops evolving. Good video. I never thought this existed in a diy version.
Could you do a test/review of how well it works on helmet visors please.
Not just in you're garage but out on the road in real world conditions to see how well it self clears.
Thanks.
It's all very well keeping the bike looking nice, but to me the real damage that the winter weather does is to the places that you can't see like suspension linkages, brake pad retaining pins and the chain. Over look these and later on you'll have a whole lot of trouble.
No I bought a different nano coating and have done my car but I have to say mine is not as good as your so I will buy the one you use next time. One thing I’ve noticed is when my car gets dirty and I park it up the rain washes the dirt off the car really good .
If you use something like Gyeon Wetcoat you don’t even have to wipe it in. Just spray on your wet paint after you’ve washed and rinsed, then rinse it off and job done. Dry as normal and you’ve got decent protection.
That's exaclty what I did with the car door I demo'd....
I Used the hydrosilex in my truck and it’s great, did a real ceramic coating on my triumph Daytona and it’s amazing
Not the only Nano coating you can do yourself there are loads and loads on the market and have been for years.Still watch all your vids .
Try muc-off motorcycle protectant, its under a tenner and superb in my opinion
Jeeze, your bikes look really clean :D
One tries ones best....
Thanks Flyer! The UK link sensed that I was in the US and provided me with an option to buzz over to the US site. They seem to have a wash and foam "cannon", I like the sound of that. ;)
Thanks for the review. I will try, I have ordered it. Note to non-UK bikers: If you click TMF's Link, the UK-page will try to redirect you to the webpage "closest to your whereabout". In my instance, it directed me to the french page (although I have problems with their language and attitude...) as I live in Germany. There is no german page. Why? We still do not deserve it!!! ;) So, France was closest. During the checkout I could not select Germany in the drop down menu when it comes to the address. Went back to the UK Link, denied to be rerouted, and, here we go, on the UK page, there is a drop down menu with all (?) countries, even bloody Germany. GBP 7 for shipping, but, hey, if it works? If not, me next tour ends in The Great Missenden. ;)
First the bank busting stress buster 2 days in Spain and now extortionate fancy resin polish ! Come on TMF what are you trying to do to us. Dare I say it , time to tone down the marketing a bit - sorry I hate being negative and cynical.
No marketing intended - I didn't get paid for the video and aren't here to sell it! I did use it as it was sent to me and found it pretty good so far - that's it really...
Like water off a duck’s back... I like the tip of spraying a visor too. Very helpful vid. Cheers, Pete
HydroSilex is great stuff, I have been using it for a little while on my Bikes and Car, it also works great to carpets and floor mats.
You can get 'Mr Fix H9' ceramic coating on ebay for 3 quid, I'ts ceramic coating and I can vouch for how good it is as I've used it on cars and bikes. This spray you got is more for going over your ceramic coating at interim periods. bollocks to paying 50-60 quid for the same stuff but re-branded in fancy bottles.
Looks good, I’ll try some of that. Wonder how much I’ll need to do the camper van! Thanks for sharing
Hydrobollox is probably a fairer product name, same old hat, different day. I have no doubt it's hydrophobic properties are the same as numerous other products over the decades, but with some marketing wankateers behind the product it manages to octruple in price. Well done TMF for grabbing a freebee, keep your cash for fuel!
Looks good , probably strip my matte cheap as chips HD paint off ? Been spraying muc off of late ...
would something like rainX do the same
You can buy 25 litres of this on ebay for about 25 quid and water it down 4:1. It's the stuff they use in car washes just before the big fan blows your car dry.
Thank you, Sir. All the body surfaces of my Aprilia Caponord are plastic, so I’ve been using Plexus on the whole thing but it doesn’t last long and it’s kind of expensive used this liberally. I’ll read up on your stuff here.
oh no TMF, as folks have said there are loads of DIY silica and silane coatings out there, from those kits that put down a harshness layer as well as a hydrophobic layer. and can last 24mths (but which demand a full prep and careful application), to the spray-on / wash-off type that will give you a good 6-8 weeks. On the latter, it's Gyeon Wetcoat for me.
Love your work, I too have the same OCD with my bikes and cars. Please remember to rip off the tag on the micro-fibre towel or it can make small scratches in your paint work.
I'm loving that!!!!!
Such a great channel 🤙🤙🤙
thank you!
Looks like a good product, if it really lasts over several washes it is definitely more cost effective than some expensive wax treatments. I look forward to seeing your future reviews.
On the car it's still going strong in particular (I tend to wash the car more regularly than the Street Triple!)....
Good tip Flyer. Will check this product out.
Tbh...
I’m not convinced there would any difference between mr sheen or back to black and these nano coatings ..
Would be interesting to see a comparison
Been using Mr Sheen or similar wax polish for years and all my bikes have stayed immaculate....
Pretty nice product. Have to look them up!
Good video tmf .sound is perfect and picture .not sure about this stuff but probably give it a try .thanks danny
I would be interested to see if this product actually repels the dirt and grime so that it doesn't stick to the surface, especially at this time of year!
That's the point of it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer - I know but does it? and not just a bit of water?
Nano coated my gsx 1400 last year, only thing is I sold it 2 weeks after I did it so I have no idea how good it is & I’ve not put it on the new bike yet.
Bit of a waste of time even leaving a comment cos it’s not really helped anybody.🤭
Guess I’m just passing time waiting for spring to arrive☀️👍
Aren’t we all!
Interesting...Does this still work when other layers are already 'on' the bike, such as ACF-50 or XCP Rust blocker?
Yes this is more intended as a paintwork treatment unlike the rust preventers....
Very interesting, TMF. I recently bought a new car and have been considering some kind of protective coating such as this...food for thought 👍
Andy 🏴
That looks great! And a good price too.
The proof in the pudding will be how it deals with road grime. If it makes washing off the crud easier I would seriously consider it. Also, good to hear it works on visits. Rainex will ruin a visor over time.
Love it. Been looking at similar stuff for ages, but as you say mega bucks and all had to be professionally done.
AWESOME! Thank you!
Would be good to see how it works following a ride with dirty water flung up.
Try Dodo Juice, Future Armour! Same method in same type of bottle. British company, I've been using Dodo Juice products for years on my cars and bikes. Amazing stuff
I use it on the kids save time and water
Nice idea!
Seems like a great product!
Interesting product, very nice review! I don't use anything on my bike right now and I do like my bike clean too. The wind shield is one of the toughest areas to keep clean. Would this product work for a wind shield?
Yep sure does....
I use muc off silicon shine on my bike as it beads the water and keeps road muck away a little longer. I tried it on the car to great affect and the more you use it it does build up a layer that lasts longer and makes cleaning in future easier, wonder what makes this worth the big price tag 🤔 another good video to watch before getting out of bed
Great vid. This looks really interesting. I've had Autoglym Lifeshine on the car (same shape as yours) for about 4 years and it has been excellent and have been looking for something similar for the RT. This looks promising! So would Hydrosilex go over or under ACF? Does it matter?
I applied it over the top....
You need to try Carbon Collective Hybrid - long lasting, far better hydrophobic qualities that that product and you can apply it with a foam gun (jet wash) or trigger spray and then activate with the jet wash.
Give something called Gyeon Wet Coat a try... It's even easier, you spray it on wet paint and then rinse it off. It's a ceramic coating too. Might not last as long, but it's so easy you can do it every time you wash
It's a bit cheaper too, £16.50 for a litre
A bit like turtle wax but more modern.
Very interesting. Dirt won't stick that easy which means easier cleaning.
Maybe it also works on your visor to have a better view in the rain. Until now I use Rainaway silicon spray on it. That works nicely gut this might be better for the bike and visor
Even the "professional" nano coatings such as Supaguard and Diamondbrite are actually cheaper than this, you're just paying for the application, and a mammoth profit mark-up (£300+) for the dealer. I'm sticking with SDoc100 for cleaning, followed by Autoglym for the painted parts and ACF50 for everything else.
Fair enough...
Meguiar's G18309EU Ultimate Fast Finish is another one. Expensive, but says it'll last for a whole 12 months.
Yes love this time of the morning 😅🤣
I'm not a fan of bike cleaning, although I do love it when my bikes are clean! :D Might check this out as I've not found RainX to be hugely effective
Brilliant.
Cheers.
Similar product to original Rainex, which i use on my visors and on windscreens of cars. Obviously generally too small a bottle to do a bike entirely. Seems decent product but for the person with the higher budget.
I wish you would have tried it on your helmet face shield. Good video mate but I'm not convinced its worth it.
Hi TheMIssendenFlyer tried Demon Shine a pink liquid, unfortunately it all goes on the driveway! None of it adheres to car body work and does,not really shine.It quite literally was money down the drain but..your onto something here it did look good,thanks for posting enjoy your video,s.
A cheaper alternative is Dodo Juice Future Armour Nano Spray £16 from Amazon. Have used it on my car and it is awesome. Even better it's a British company.
Here's a thought pop down and do a video they're in Essex CM22 6JX
I’ve got a street triple R which I love, but the paint work is matt back and as a result a real bugger to keep clean. Do you know if this can be used on matt paint without causing any effects?
Great review as always TMF and I look forward to the next video.
A few have asked that - I don't know the answer sadly.....
TheMissendenFlyer I’ll give it a go and keep you posted.
What's the point of this? your bike dries faster?
Well easier drying is a side benefit - key thing is it makes it harder for dirt to stick to the surface, keeping your bike cleaner for longer...
@@TheMissendenFlyer I see, does that mean I get to wash my bike less? Because that seems unacceptable to me ;-)
Last time I was this Early TMF upvoted and left a reply on every comment.
Woohoo!
Try some ordinary fabric conditioner in your rinse water, you know the stuff for laundry, it has the same effect.
That Trumpy is the best looking in the world Mr Flyer! I know I've said it before a hundred times, but every time I see it I just cant stop staring at it. She is gorgeous! What was the vid about by the way? cheers groover ;-)
Nice one ;0)
Looks like good stuff
So far so good!
Could see the difference better between the car doors 👍🏻
In the beginning of the video, the entire time he is talking and showing the bottle of the hydro stuff, I am looking over on the right side of the video and wondering what is in all those nice big bottles and those 12 oz bottles with the white label he has in the garage. Invite me to your party! :)
Thanks TMF. Interesting vid. You mention visor and glass treatment. Have you tried it out on visor or windscreen and if so, did it improve vision in the rain? Would be interested in a follow up sometime if not yet. (Hard to film through your visor on a ride though!!). If the channel ever tanks you’ll have a great career as a bike washer!!!
I remember seeing shoes and t-shirts that were Hydrophobic and thought why arent motorbikes hydrophobic? no more rust or cleaning!
Sonax xtreme is better and only costs a tenner
Always interested in how to keep the bike clean - presently I just use wax - thanks. Could you do an update after a few months and let us know how it holds up on hot components (perhaps headers which are exposed to debris from the front tyre...) wash after wash? Could this be the miracle us OCD riders have been looking for?! I'm getting all tingly.
Will see what I can do!
Thank you for posting. Interesting product. I appreciate what must have been a constant wetting and drying of your Street Triple (not the speed triple, correct?). Specially in the engine area. Either I am staying up too late at night, or you are posting your videos too early in the morning. I suspect the former. :) Thanks again.
Looks good. Would you still use the ACF50 on the metalwork throughout the winter though and this on the rest of the bike year round?
Yes....
How does this compare to Carplan No1 Supergloss? Looks very similar but much cheaper. Would love to see a side by side comparison.
Poor old TMF, just showing us what hes been sent and the results he had and there is much mocking! From what I gather, in the comments the main difference between this and Mr Sheen/other coatings (regardless of the ceramic claims) is that it stays on after washing. Which can't be a bad thing.
Seems to have worked well so far - I shall monitor progress and update in due course.....I can only give my experiences (clearly I'm not a chemist!)....
Have you continued to use this and if so, how well would you say it worked? I ride all year round so I’m forever looking at new ways to keep my bike protected, currently using tried and tested ACF50.
This doesn't replace ACF50, it just helps stop the dirt sticking so keeps your bike cleaner for longer - seems alright but if you look through the comments lots of people have said other similar stuff is available at a lesser price....so may be worth checking them out if they do the same thing...(no issue with Hydrosilex, just expensive)....
Looks good. how does it react with the hot parts. Does the blue liquid on your bench do a different job. Thanks for sharing the vid.
Its good to see products used in the real world, rather than just a staged advert.
Blimey TMF turned into the mad scientist tonight, Hydrophobe, Hydrosilex what ever next.Turtle Wax far easier to say and spell.. Cheers..
Hmmm....another new product that's supposed to change the way we clean our bikes. I'll stick with keeping mine covered in ACF50 on the mechanical bits, with coats of Collinite topped off with Gtechniq C2v3 on the painted plastics and tank....
R u still using this product? Did it stand the test of time?. Thanks ... great video
No it didn’t last as long as I’d hoped and it is quite costly so I’m back to old fashioned wax....
I use another company's product; Dr. Beasley's here in the States which claims it lasts 2-3 years depending on maintenance. I'm very happy with their products. However, it is a whole black hole of marketing claims versus reality that people can be very territorial and 'internet experts' on so beware opening this can of worms as the comments no doubt have started to show (and will continue long after!). LOL. I am a geek about detailing my vehicles much like you are and have nano coated my cars/motorcycles with the same sort of attention and vigor you demonstrate (though I do not have a dryer/blower like you do) and find that paint protection is quite the hot topic people can be quite worked up over.
Yes the comments do seem to be quite strong on this one...oh well, this stuff seems quite good to me but I've got no strong views either way about it - I will continue to use it until something better comes along! Cheers for watching and stopping by as ever Scott...
H please can you let me know where you purchased the hydrosilex recharge in the uk as the link you posted below doesn’t open to where you can pay it from cheers john
It was a long time ago - I don’t honestly recall!
Does that mean the old bike dryer will be collecting dust in the back of the man cave now 😕
Hehe, no chance, love that thing - this just makes drying easier...
Bought myself a S/H leaf blower for £5 off Ebay. Works a treat. @@TheMissendenFlyer
So, do you think you could use this instead of ACF50 - or as well? Seems a bit extreme to do both. And, if only one, which one? By the way I think I might have seen you this morning on the Wendover bypass. i was going to Stoke Mandeville, and you - if it was you ( no helmet camera )were going the other way. We did the motorcycle nod. I was wearing, brand new, high viz - so very bright. You might have been on your Street triple, if it was you.
Nah, wasn’t me....
Realised that after I watched your live upload last night. Although, I didn't watch it live. Sorry!! Will try and do better, next time. What do you think about the AFC nand Nano stuff - either or both? @@TheMissendenFlyer
Been using the nano coating for years TMF, if I can find the stuff I’ll let you know. Made me laugh the hydrophobic and ceramic stuff. What’s wrong with water repelllent ? 😁😁😁😁 what’s ceramic? Thought that was a clay based material. It’s all marketing speel but the nano coating is good stuff. Use it on my windscreen.
Mr Flyer did sumone spray are heads with that stuff ,my hair receded in much the same way.😂
Well, I have bought one based on your review TMF I don't really care if it's technically 'nanotechnology' as long as it does what it says on the tin ;)
Well it certainly seems to make the water just bead off and therfore I hope keep the bike cleaner for longer - it is pricey though...
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes I spent some of my hard earned cash from designing @Teapotonevids new clan graphics on this! See how you influence the community ;)