When I was 17 in 2002 I had a friend who was a couple years older that was into 5RC records. There was this really skeezy venue called Uncle Doctor's in Columbia, SC where I am from that was almost all hardcore/metal/metalcore stuff that I wasn't really into at all. But my friend told me one night that there was a late show there of 5RC bands called the "5RC Jamboree." After sitting through a bunch of hardcore bands that all sounded the same (not so good), and like 90% of the crowd leaving, Xiu Xiu took the stage. Like half the other 10% of the crowd left, but this shit was blowing my mind, like wrecking me. I cried one of the only times I can think of at a show when they played "Suha." It was absolutely beautiful. By the time Hella was meant to go on it must have been 2 in the morning, and everyone had left except for me and my friend and like 3-4 people that I think were part of the tour. So Zach just brought his drum kit out and they started setting up right in the middle of the floor. I had never heard anything like this at all and it was just immediately fucking insane. One of the dudes that was left was obviously a big fan and was just dancing around like goddamn crazy and we all just started going crazy (I was a really shy kid). It was just like 5 dorks pogoing and spazzing out to this insanely complex and compelling, intense music. That was one of the only other times I can remember crying at a show, the same night, from the shear joy of it. Zach was playing the drums so hard it was fucking madness, everything was falling over all the time, and at points he would be just beating the shit out of them with his bare fists, but everything held together perfectly. To this day it's easily my favorite musical experience I've ever had.
see this makes me angry because where is the press, where is the radio, where are the tv shows, when the f will the mainstream notice what's happening so that this music reaches *everyone* who need it like this.
@@peterbartelt1652 the guitar part is easy. Figured it out in 20 minutes, the drums part is nearly impossible tho unless you’ve completely mastered the drums
i don't think it's better quality, but it is compressed to hell so that here, the guitar doesn't sound like ice picks being jabbed in your ears. which is nice.
For those wondering about the time signature, I analyzed this track (the recorded version) and it starts out in 4/4, with later measures alternating 9/8 and 7/8 until the bridge where it gets quite impossible to decipher. Spencer sticks to 4/4 in that section while Zach changes from 4/4 to some insane polyrhythms.
@@cpsbBXCX Zach is self-taught and I'm fairly certain Spencer is as well, it's so idiosyncratic they literally couldn't put two other people in those spots and have them play it correctly. Had a beer with the both of them at the Fireside Bowl when I saw them there, both really cool guys (at the time, at least)
" The music I'm making with Death Grips is way more along the lines of what I would listen to than anything I've ever made." - Zach Hill. And personally I think that Death Grips is fucking great.
Martini Blank Chippendale isn't as technical as Zach. Though he plays with a lot of passion, if it were to come down to pure playing ability and technicality, Zach has Brian beat by a mile.
@@elio9974 both are good at the genre they play Brian is more of a direct kinda guy, playing straight beats with fast ass fills inbetween whereas Zach plays more alinear stuff, making sound like one big fill, even though it's not.
It's so sick that we live in the universe and time that these 2 existed and found each other. The speed, accuracy and technicality of their arrangements and playing is fucking insane and they do it while still keeping a catchy melody. Their understanding of the eachothers playing i would imagine is at the point of telepathy. They could write this shit in their sleep I bet. I've been a fan since 2006 when this video went sorta viral in the first days of CZcams. I'm still waiting for that Tripper follow up lol
When I was in high school, I was completely and utterly obsessed with Zach's drumming. I had a VHS tape dub that a friend had given me of Legs on Earth playing a few shows in Sacramento that I would just loop on repeat in my room after school. I'm lucky enough to have seen Legs on Earth play at most of their Northern California shows, including at my high school, as well as a large number of early Hella shows. Listening to this early Hella stuff again after a long time away still makes me wonder how it is possible that a man can play drums like that.
@@boastandskis3374 No, sadly. This was over 20 years ago and I was just borrowing the tape. Unrelated, I've heard a tall tale that someone who knows someone has a VHS with recordings of Legs on Earth live shows though, and that they are "having it digitized". Who knows if it is true, maybe we'll find out one day.
I wish I could explain to people why I love Hella so much. Yeah I could show em a video or something, but have you ever tried to do that? In most of my cases people go, "oh man lemme show you THIS! This shit rips duuuude" and it's like some iteration of metal. Whether it's speed or thrash or death or what have you. And I really don't know why I have such trouble trying to explain to them that this isn't fuckin metal. It's...it's beyond that. It's beyond anything I've ever heard. Sure there's a technical side to it, but it's also got a helluva lot of heart. They learned the fuckin technical way they play through fucking around and going to weird places; they learned through feeling. This is still to this day, an unparalleled amount of talent to me. There's still nothing quite like it. This is an anomaly.
With the level of complexity in the recording of this you expect Zach hill to atleast improv a little bit in but NOPE EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING IS ON BEAT HOW THE HELL
jameson It's probably just the way he perceives things. To us he's a super genius but to him it's just how he normally thinks and doesn't know what all the fuss is about. Not saying everyone that doesn't think like him is stupid. I'm saying everyone has a specific way of thinking that makes them really good at something.
I always compare it to dancing. Once you know all the moves to the dance it's trivial to perform it, so if you break this down to its components and and master each individually those are the individual dance moves and you put them together in sequence.
I think Zach just has been training in "licks" most of his time. He just repeats them a couple of times untill the next part comes in. The guitarist makes it easier to remind him where he's at in the song.
his drumming is abstract. not everyone likes the "out-of-beat" style that zach has. i love it because no matter how spastic it gets they're always on time and tempo. but to each his own.
Before Death Grips and before Team Sleep. Zach Hill is one of my favorite drummers and I haven't even listened to all the music he was involved with/made. Incredible guy.
this band is light years ahead of the music scene, its amazing. both these guys are so talented in music composition, and timing, its pure insanity at its finest. its too bad they didnt stay a duo.
I'm new to his pre death grips work and what caughts my attention is he's always playing this starter kit drums lol. Without the vids i could only imagine him playing a 20 set pro gear or something like that
Biblical Violence is the exact opposite of unstructured. It is actually ultra-structured. I can't wait to see the music that spawns from present day hella influenced musicians. And as for your comment on what music "is", I hope you write down this quote. "Hardening of the categories promotes art disease." You should appreciate and enjoy Hella for their technical ability, innovations, and ultimately the fresh food they've brought to the table for all musicians to savor and digest.
You don't have to be more intelligent to dig this sort of stuff. It's just more appreciation for the more out there in terms of music. Zach claims that he does a lot more thinking than most people might think when he writes songs, and it really shows with how he can differentiate songs really well.
I remember seeing this back in high school... now I done with college, and this guys are still awesome. I can still recall that last rmoment in the video when Zach hits and mutes the crash with the same hand!
it's interesting because usually I don't appreciate virtuosity or technical stuff that much. i mean, it's like "wow!" but i won't listen to it again or feel anything. but with Hella there's something else. i feel lots of stuff. the melodies, the intensity on the drums, the way they combine with each other...it's hard to explain.
Feel lucky to have been into these guys when they were playing these songs for the first time live. Saw them more than a few times, always amazing! Hard to believe how long ago it was Dx
Ryan An I beg to differ; tweaking grammatical rules is one of the essences of altered dialects. Altering grammatical rules is one of the ways words can evolve. Also, yes, my question was indeed rhetorical. Thanks for your time.
A poor excuse for defiling the most significant contrivance of our species... language. Does your poor grammar somehow perpetuate some cultural or ethnic identity? No, its just laziness.
I saw him in Denver a few days ago, too. I agree - most amazing live percussion performance I've ever seen. I saw him 10 years ago in Stockton, CA with his very first band, called Legs On Earth. He only used one bass pedal then, too. Jaw-dropping!
This band is absolutely amazing with talent. Most people say Zachs drumming is random beating, but they're obviously ignorant when it comes to playing drums or an intsrument rather. I love Zachs playing its almost like he is playing along with every note,that the guitarist hits, very strategically. JAW DROPPER RIGHT HERE BABY. I LOVE HELLA!
Sayw them open for The Mars Volta and System of a Down many years ago. My brother and sister said they got boo'ed off the stage. I seriously don't remember it that way. They were amazing. Better than System of a Down.
When this record came out, we read in the mag that it was the hottest record out there, and we laughed and humored the article... for once, the media was RIGHT
Zach Hill played Necromancer here this week and I have to say it was the most incredible live drum performance I have ever seen. He IS really tall... AND he only has ONE bass pedal... that's right...
![Hella [Live] · Common Grounds, Gainesville · 2003](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/F06H_zGPY5g/mqdefault.jpg)
When I was 17 in 2002 I had a friend who was a couple years older that was into 5RC records. There was this really skeezy venue called Uncle Doctor's in Columbia, SC where I am from that was almost all hardcore/metal/metalcore stuff that I wasn't really into at all. But my friend told me one night that there was a late show there of 5RC bands called the "5RC Jamboree." After sitting through a bunch of hardcore bands that all sounded the same (not so good), and like 90% of the crowd leaving, Xiu Xiu took the stage. Like half the other 10% of the crowd left, but this shit was blowing my mind, like wrecking me. I cried one of the only times I can think of at a show when they played "Suha." It was absolutely beautiful. By the time Hella was meant to go on it must have been 2 in the morning, and everyone had left except for me and my friend and like 3-4 people that I think were part of the tour. So Zach just brought his drum kit out and they started setting up right in the middle of the floor. I had never heard anything like this at all and it was just immediately fucking insane. One of the dudes that was left was obviously a big fan and was just dancing around like goddamn crazy and we all just started going crazy (I was a really shy kid). It was just like 5 dorks pogoing and spazzing out to this insanely complex and compelling, intense music. That was one of the only other times I can remember crying at a show, the same night, from the shear joy of it. Zach was playing the drums so hard it was fucking madness, everything was falling over all the time, and at points he would be just beating the shit out of them with his bare fists, but everything held together perfectly. To this day it's easily my favorite musical experience I've ever had.
doomslang Sounds amazing. Thank you for sharing your near-life experience!
what u mean near-life?
Thanks for sharing :)
see this makes me angry because where is the press, where is the radio, where are the tv shows, when the f will the mainstream notice what's happening so that this music reaches *everyone* who need it like this.
@Doomslang Your comment made me smile from ear to ear
The amazing part is that he can do it again.
"They can" and I swear I'm not the guitarist lol
@@peterbartelt1652 the guitar part is easy. Figured it out in 20 minutes, the drums part is nearly impossible tho unless you’ve completely mastered the drums
@@KendrickMegaFan he still has to keep up and stay in sync with fucking Zach Hill
@@KendrickMegaFan guitar part is not easy at all
@@tinzzay1986 I learned to play it in 20 minutes lmao
That fuckiNG CYMBAL GRAB FUCKS MY SHIT UP EVERY SINGLE TIME
this video has been fucking me up for a decade
this and the footage from that olympia show are legendary
Glad it's not just me.
hcjustin dude it’s 2018
Make it 15 years
@@maximilian_garay 18 years
That splash mute at about 0:56 is one of the gnarliest things I've seen.
*quintuplet splash mute
I thought that was just one of those small 14" crashes that come on shitty beginner kits
It's surprising that the audio quality on this video is almost better than the studio version, even though its in 240p and from 2006
i don't think it's better quality, but it is compressed to hell so that here, the guitar doesn't sound like ice picks being jabbed in your ears. which is nice.
From the looks of it, the only thing amplified is the guitar, so the drums sound more raw.
This live video was uploaded to youtube in 2006 but was actually recorded and released on their old website hellaband dot com in 2002
What is wrong with you this is much worse quality than the album release. I listen to music in lossless quality so maybe that’s just me
@@verbosed .flac master race, these dweebs don't get it
For those wondering about the time signature, I analyzed this track (the recorded version) and it starts out in 4/4, with later measures alternating 9/8 and 7/8 until the bridge where it gets quite impossible to decipher. Spencer sticks to 4/4 in that section while Zach changes from 4/4 to some insane polyrhythms.
honestly I don't think they're intentionally playing in any time signature at all lol it's almost like cue-based
@@cpsbBXCXyeah, this is music that sounds like it is heard, not written down
Thank you
@@cpsbBXCX Zach is self-taught and I'm fairly certain Spencer is as well, it's so idiosyncratic they literally couldn't put two other people in those spots and have them play it correctly. Had a beer with the both of them at the Fireside Bowl when I saw them there, both really cool guys (at the time, at least)
i dont know much about spencer, but zach is still kicking ass with mc ride in death grips@@brandonelkins2957
" The music I'm making with Death Grips is way more along the lines of what I would listen to than anything I've ever made." - Zach Hill. And personally I think that Death Grips is fucking great.
Oh my visionary!
10 years later and DG has one of the best catalogues of any group I’ve ever discovered
it’s tradition to watch this every few months
i'm just astounded he can hit the splash and mute it all at in like one sixteenth note, and not lose any time at all
0:37 has to be the most mind bending drum beat ever composed, like seriously WTF is he doing there.
and he does it again
just a lil bit of flim flam, wham bam, thank you m'am
I cant imagine the hours it took to master the timing of that unless it just comes natural to him.
You gotta start listening to jazz lol. Kinda basic tbh
@@P715R i have listened to jazz for decades, zach hill is just as good and complex as any of the jazz maestros.
This damn video changed the trajectory of my entire life
same here my friend, my introduction to math rock :)
One of the coolest rock bands of the last 15 years, if you ask me...
make it 20.. geez
@@aaptel Well, considering that my original comment that you are replying to was from 5 years ago, I guess you are right.
@@gab_gallard oh I know.. It's just so long :(
I’ve never heard a song that is so in time it sounds out of time until now, this is the uncanny valley of rhythm
that part at 2:02 especially in this specific recording is so damn beautiful
toastedcherries a zach hill fan? no way
@@foolspark yes way
Love your videos toastedcherries! Thanks for being some of my favorite content :)
No one plays like Zach. Hes a pioneer on the drums.
Martini Blank Chippendale isn't as technical as Zach. Though he plays with a lot of passion, if it were to come down to pure playing ability and technicality, Zach has Brian beat by a mile.
@@elio9974 both are good at the genre they play Brian is more of a direct kinda guy, playing straight beats with fast ass fills inbetween whereas Zach plays more alinear stuff, making sound like one big fill, even though it's not.
Zach just plays the drums upside down and backwards
damon che maybe
@@user-gv8vv2id7t Damon can play so many things at once but I doubt he could shred like Zach
goosebumps. every single time. no matter how many times i watch it it still provokes astonishment and maybe even a few tears ....
It's so sick that we live in the universe and time that these 2 existed and found each other. The speed, accuracy and technicality of their arrangements and playing is fucking insane and they do it while still keeping a catchy melody. Their understanding of the eachothers playing i would imagine is at the point of telepathy. They could write this shit in their sleep I bet. I've been a fan since 2006 when this video went sorta viral in the first days of CZcams. I'm still waiting for that Tripper follow up lol
Keep in mind Zach still has his shirt on in this, he's only using a fraction of his true power.
I watched this video on mushrooms and I fear I'll never be the same again.
+MOUNTAIN epic!!!!!!!!!!
Good.
drummingtildeath welcome to the club
How are you doing now?
@@thelobsterking1055 pretty high to be honest, but otherwise okay.
Damn, I've never found an older comment of mine.
when Zach hits the bell at 2:47 amidst that beautiful melodic flurry I get goosebumps and my eyes water. so superb
When I was in high school, I was completely and utterly obsessed with Zach's drumming. I had a VHS tape dub that a friend had given me of Legs on Earth playing a few shows in Sacramento that I would just loop on repeat in my room after school. I'm lucky enough to have seen Legs on Earth play at most of their Northern California shows, including at my high school, as well as a large number of early Hella shows. Listening to this early Hella stuff again after a long time away still makes me wonder how it is possible that a man can play drums like that.
Duuuude do you still have the VHS. If so please post that stuff, have never seen live footage of Legs
@@boastandskis3374 No, sadly. This was over 20 years ago and I was just borrowing the tape.
Unrelated, I've heard a tall tale that someone who knows someone has a VHS with recordings of Legs on Earth live shows though, and that they are "having it digitized". Who knows if it is true, maybe we'll find out one day.
I wish I could explain to people why I love Hella so much. Yeah I could show em a video or something, but have you ever tried to do that? In most of my cases people go, "oh man lemme show you THIS! This shit rips duuuude" and it's like some iteration of metal. Whether it's speed or thrash or death or what have you. And I really don't know why I have such trouble trying to explain to them that this isn't fuckin metal. It's...it's beyond that. It's beyond anything I've ever heard. Sure there's a technical side to it, but it's also got a helluva lot of heart. They learned the fuckin technical way they play through fucking around and going to weird places; they learned through feeling. This is still to this day, an unparalleled amount of talent to me. There's still nothing quite like it. This is an anomaly.
You just expressed my feelings about this band better than I ever could
@your opinion is invalid yeah, but nah. kinda like how U.S Maple is """"technically"""" math rock, but no other band sounds like em.
funny how math rock is basically rock in opposition but in the 21th century... boomers used to do the same shit back them with the rio movement
Apart from brown metal, that song is great
least pretentious metal head
Ive been watching this for a few years. It's cool that so many ppl can appreciate this example of stunning musicianship.
Thx for posting.
The best live performance of Biblical.
One of the best things on youtube in terms of quality and rarity.
Chris Peters no
I just wanna point out how perfected this song is. Listen to the album version.
this surpasses the album version
+earthquakeyourface
I think his point is how similar they are
With the level of complexity in the recording of this you expect Zach hill to atleast improv a little bit in but NOPE EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING IS ON BEAT HOW THE HELL
jameson To him they're probably a simple pattern he just follows easily.
jameson It's probably just the way he perceives things. To us he's a super genius but to him it's just how he normally thinks and doesn't know what all the fuss is about. Not saying everyone that doesn't think like him is stupid. I'm saying everyone has a specific way of thinking that makes them really good at something.
I always compare it to dancing. Once you know all the moves to the dance it's trivial to perform it, so if you break this down to its components and and master each individually those are the individual dance moves and you put them together in sequence.
I think Zach just has been training in "licks" most of his time. He just repeats them a couple of times untill the next part comes in. The guitarist makes it easier to remind him where he's at in the song.
i completely agree! i think it's a lot like action painting and (some) poetry in a way.
Zach Hill's the best drummer ever.
0:57 I love that little cymbal mute into the "chorus".
@wong ton It's always like that, no matter who you talk about!
that shit gets me every time i watch this video
My cousin is better.
Neel 2000 that was so gnarly
his drumming is abstract. not everyone likes the "out-of-beat" style that zach has. i love it because no matter how spastic it gets they're always on time and tempo. but to each his own.
at 1:02 you can hear someone saying "oh my god" cuz someone else in the audience had their brain explode from too much awesome.
Before Death Grips and before Team Sleep. Zach Hill is one of my favorite drummers and I haven't even listened to all the music he was involved with/made. Incredible guy.
this is one of the few drummers that still has RAW TALENT in our times
i aspire to be the person drumming this song
Had their Acoustics EP on repeat all week. Some of the best music of the last decade (and probably my favourite EP).
Nice lysol picture. On another Hella video I stated that Hella was the opposite of doom metal.
Melvins and Hella are awesome!
One of my absolute favorite Hella songs. mmmm
idk what it is about that lick at 0:57 but i’ve never had music make me feel the way it does before or since
Same dude. I wish I could hear this for the first time again
it's like noise math rock
Hella yeah
this band is light years ahead of the music scene, its amazing. both these guys are so talented in music composition, and timing, its pure insanity at its finest. its too bad they didnt stay a duo.
I vote this best live performance by anyone ever
I'm new to his pre death grips work and what caughts my attention is he's always playing this starter kit drums lol. Without the vids i could only imagine him playing a 20 set pro gear or something like that
i love how this is the only video they uploaded
Biblical Violence is the exact opposite of unstructured. It is actually ultra-structured. I can't wait to see the music that spawns from present day hella influenced musicians. And as for your comment on what music "is", I hope you write down this quote. "Hardening of the categories promotes art disease." You should appreciate and enjoy Hella for their technical ability, innovations, and ultimately the fresh food they've brought to the table for all musicians to savor and digest.
You don't have to be more intelligent to dig this sort of stuff. It's just more appreciation for the more out there in terms of music. Zach claims that he does a lot more thinking than most people might think when he writes songs, and it really shows with how he can differentiate songs really well.
always come back to this video
Same here one of the greatest vids ever
I remember seeing this back in high school... now I done with college, and this guys are still awesome. I can still recall that last rmoment in the video when Zach hits and mutes the crash with the same hand!
it's interesting because usually I don't appreciate virtuosity or technical stuff that much. i mean, it's like "wow!" but i won't listen to it again or feel anything. but with Hella there's something else. i feel lots of stuff. the melodies, the intensity on the drums, the way they combine with each other...it's hard to explain.
It's an auditory representation of what it means to be human. If impressionist music was a thing, this would be it
this is so insanely awesome i almost cant handle it
Feel lucky to have been into these guys when they were playing these songs for the first time live. Saw them more than a few times, always amazing! Hard to believe how long ago it was Dx
I love that groove that kicks on towards the end. And then they proceed to tear it apart. Awesome.
I fucking love hella. Love.
epic timeless greatness
i have a “best videos ever” playlist on youtube. this is obviously included in it.
this music makes me extremely happy to be alive to hear such stimuli.
HOLD MY BEER
this is amazing, true art
organic, dynamic, exuberant
One of the greatest musical performances on CZcams.
Is that a child's drumkit or is he 10 foot tall?
Illegal In Amsterdam "feet"
Ryan An This is how some of us speak in East Lancashire. Thanks for answering my question though; it's all so much clearer now!
Illegal In Amsterdam Bad grammar is not a dialect. And I assumed your question was rhetorical.
Ryan An I beg to differ; tweaking grammatical rules is one of the essences of altered dialects. Altering grammatical rules is one of the ways words can evolve. Also, yes, my question was indeed rhetorical. Thanks for your time.
A poor excuse for defiling the most significant contrivance of our species... language. Does your poor grammar somehow perpetuate some cultural or ethnic identity? No, its just laziness.
"What's a time signature?" the band.
i just started listening to hella this week and i love their music for why you said, and this is my first time hearing anything like it
Still slaps HARD
this aint fuckin music
this is a feat of mankind
Love the guitar tapping at 2:01
wow, i just discovered hella and i'm am falling in love with this band.
i can't didn't believe when i heard it. amazing
No idea what just happened
ahh yes, when youtube was pure
I saw him in Denver a few days ago, too. I agree - most amazing live percussion performance I've ever seen. I saw him 10 years ago in Stockton, CA with his very first band, called Legs On Earth. He only used one bass pedal then, too. Jaw-dropping!
That drummer is a MACHINE
0:56
Hella owes me a new pair of pants.
it's just intense. and that expresses something no matter how chaotic it appears
this is just about the perfect song being performed just about perfectly. i air drum the hell out of this.
What do you get - if you cross an elephant, a rhino, & this video?
Hella-if-i-know
Yeah Same
Who are you and why do you keep commenting on hella vids?
This band is absolutely amazing with talent. Most people say Zachs drumming is random beating, but they're obviously ignorant when it comes to playing drums or an intsrument rather. I love Zachs playing its almost like he is playing along with every note,that the guitarist hits, very strategically. JAW DROPPER RIGHT HERE BABY. I LOVE HELLA!
favorite hella song
Sayw them open for The Mars Volta and System of a Down many years ago. My brother and sister said they got boo'ed off the stage. I seriously don't remember it that way. They were amazing. Better than System of a Down.
Jesus, it's like the kit is just an extension of Zach Hill's body.
240p, straight up rockin out, guitarist and drummer.
Dude im in love
this is wild! thanks!
When this record came out, we read in the mag that it was the hottest record out there, and we laughed and humored the article... for once, the media was RIGHT
Death Grips is amazing
Def one of the best drummers I've ever heard. Zach Hill on Drums. Amazing stuff. So Unique
Still my favorite video on CZcams
NOW DO IT BACKWARDS!
Zach Hill played Necromancer here this week and I have to say it was the most incredible live drum performance I have ever seen. He IS really tall... AND he only has ONE bass pedal... that's right...
jesus that drum is amazing man
The drums are complicated enough, but for the guitar to follow, truly amazing!
I'm tired just by watching the drummer
zach is jesus
This is the first drummer to evoke a "holy shit" from me in a long ass time. Holy Shit. There it is.
so cooooool. awesome drummer.
dubstep: origins...
This aint even math rock its meth rock
I love this song.
I remember how songs by Hella go, you have to listen to it. really listen.
there are melodies there.
watched this vid from all areas of the world across decades of time