Testing The Cheapest Jointer on Amazon
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- We are testing this Craftsman 6" bench top jointer which was the "Cheapest Jointer on Amazon" when I bought it. This video is not sponsored. see (affiliate) Links for products discussed in this video!
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Your video is the best explanation I've ever seen regarding jointers and how they work. Thank you for being straight forward and not skipping any steps. It was perfect!
That was a really good review! Thanks!
Great video. Loved the example cuts you made to show how it works!
I've never had a jointer before and just recently, like two weeks ago, bought this exact model, Craftsman. I have already used it a couple of times with very nice results. i have the feeling that this will be one of those tools that in a short time, I wonder how in the world did I ever live without. At the same time, I don't expect to put it through heavy use and so it is nice to see your review and validate that I made a good choice. thanks, Chuck
Awesome video, I'm going to get one, thank I'll like it better than the planer. Love your channel..
Very nice review! Love the dog too!!!
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Great video. This is the same design and set-up as the Porter-Cable, Delta, King Canada, Griz, so on and so forth, that have been made for a couple decades. Decent units, some with and without speed control.
Excellent review, thankyou for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
That was a very nice review. Pretty thorough without being lengthy. Well done.
A benchtop jointer like this seems like it would be well suited for cabinetry, as long as the pieces didn't get too long. From face frames to door frames, it seems like it do the job. Not that you'd want to use it in a production environment, but if you were looking to make some shop cabinets or even kitchen or bath cabinets for your own home, this would be a nice tool to have.
That said, reading the other comments, there seems to be a reliability issue.
No issues for me yet
Got mine used locally for 200. It has worked very well, and I have no regret in buying. I mean would a prefer a long bed 12” jointer sure but that’s what dreams are for this is for getting my projects today done!
haha! I'll take one of those as well!
Great review
Fantastic review, Jim! Thanks a lot! 😃
That would be a fantastic addition to my small shop indeed!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks! 👍
I was gonna purcahse a plane but now ima get a jointer i need to fix some pallets im taking apart thank you for this video
That red paint job looks so cool that I want to paint my gray/blue (exactly the same only different) small Delta unit bright red just like it. As for use, I keep a pack of spare blades on hand.
Hello, LastingBuild with the treadle lathe you can instead of using the bore drive spur to attach the wood that you are milling you can actually glue a circle the size of one of the galvanized flanges to the wood your milling and then screw on the galvanized flange and attach that to the pole on the headstock.
Thx 4 review, Lowes in Hawthorne CA has it on clearance for $179.00. I'll buy one to do minor DIY projects. The clearance price works for me.
That is a steal, if you didn’t but it you missed out !
Great review. Fast and no bs… full of the most important information…..
Just bought this the other week and needed some justification in my purchase 😂 thanks man.
Now only to find time to use it! (Or some reasonably priced wood or pallets for that matter!)
Contractors building new construction often times throw away good stuff. Might check that out in your area.
I bought what I think is the same planer. I’ve yet to take it out of the box. My plan is to use it for small projects! Thanks for the insight. Well done!
*Jointer
So glad you're back! The guitar build was beautiful - way over my skill set, but I enjoyed watching it. This review is great. I have a good planer and a straight cut jig for my table saw. So I'm windering whether I should wait on a jointer. The low price point is attractive.
Give me a little time with it and I can do a follow-up. So far, so good!
@@lastingbuild1373 looking at this jointer now, any chance you’d still recommend it? Seen a good number of people on amazing talking about their into dying after a few days to a few weeks, wondering if maybe there was a defective batch that went out and hopefully not just they don’t last long.
@@arkman117 I use it almost daily and no issues with stock under 2 ft in length! Longer stock you probably need a jointer with a longer bed!
@@lastingbuild1373 nice! I appreciate the feedback, I’m guessing there was a bad batch of motors that went out some time ago, reviews on Amazon were good but then randomly like 5 talking about it dying 1st day, so prob just bad batch.
Great video! I know this machine is variable speed. Can you tell me what speed you used on the OAK boards? Thank you!
I've been using this jointer for a while now! I love it. However, this is my second one. My first one died a week into use, right in the middle of a cut. Got it traded out and have had no issues! Been a few months. Hope it stays that way!
The reviews on lowes are riddled with 1 stars for this specific reason.
@@iheart3dprinting951 yep. I definitely noticed that after I bought it. Hopefully this one stays functional atleast until I can save the money for a better one. I started making furniture on the side after my husband got laid off last year. Didn't realize I'd love it so much! But working with what I have until I can afford better!
@@jaynawhite5579 You're not alone on this journey. I got a fancy welder and been making frames and boxes among other things. People really seem like welded steel tables but I think putting a sheet of plywood is kind of lame. So been making table tops out of 2x4s, 2x6s and 2x8s redwood and pine. But now I think I want to get rid of that rounded corner and make the edges mate seamlessly maybe even do an epoxy table top. Goodluck on your journey and thanks for the reply.
I've face and edge jointed 4inch wide / 6,& 8 ft long boards (but nothing wider or longer than that) on the portercable and for the money it does a good job blades kinda go fast but I use it multiple times a day / everyday
Any tricks you use for the 8 ft board? Such as catching it with some method on the other side to keep it stable?
Good video, good tool. I have got 8" joiner thicknesses , also made from not expensive materials but it's doing its job, made by femi ( italian company), but it is a generic joiner thicknesses that is manufactur in china. You can sharp the blades!
Thanks for sharing
Great to hear it can handle hard wood!
Yes it does!
excellent
I have this same joiner except it has the Porter-Cable name on it (got it at Lowe's). I'm pretty pleased with it. My question has always been: why would a joiner need variable speed? I just think it's a gimmick to make it more attractive. By the way, it used to be "joiner," not "jointer." In my mind it has always been used for prepping two boards to be joined.
Identical to the old Delta bench top jointer I used to have. Worked okay, but it's pretty much worthless for anything longer than about 30". Just a few years ago you could get a real cast iron stationary jointer for the same price. Now you can't touch one for less than about $1,000.
Very nice presentation. What is the longest piece you have done ?
I’ve got the same planer. Except it’s a porter Cable. Made by the same people. Works great so far
How long you had it?
I have the same one from Lowes three years ago. Doesn't compare to my uncle's 8" shop joiner but gets the job done within it's abilities.
Been thinking about this tool. THanx for the info. By the way, where did you get your miter saw tint in the background?
I did a review of it last year. Can't remember off the top of my head right now.
Very good my friend 🖒☺💪
Thank you! Cheers!
This looks identical to the porter cable benchtop jointer. PC160JT
I wonder how the blades do with "squirrely" or figured wood--that would be interesting to investigate--thanks for a great review.
I bought this jointer when it was called a porter cable. it tends to chunk wood when the grain isn't consistent. It works fine taking less than a 1/16" per pass. Gets the job done, just not the best.
That’s the same exact joiner as the porter cable. I have the porter cable joiner and with some in feed and out feed tables it works very well. I did have an issue with a blade and when I went to change it ended up stripping a bolt on the head. I’m probably going to have to replace the head if I can’t get that bolt out. Just be extremely careful changing the blades.
And looking at it, it looks almost identical to the even cheaper version from Wen.
EVERYTHING Looks JUST like my portercable 6inch benchtop I got at Lowes like 7 yrs ago except for the logo amd colors
I just purchased the Craftsman bench planer, and I'm getting used to it. I have wanted one of these for years. I'm 77 and have had to learn to be patient. I already have my "eyes" on the jointer. I don't like the speed control idea.
So you wouldn't need a planer if you have a jointer it seems like. Very good video
I am trying to figure out if there are two blades or one on this? I have been using mine and it works good. After a long bout with it last night it started not cutting well and I noticed there was only one blade in it. Don't know if there were two , like it looks like there is a place for the second one. Don
Could you show me how you made that rack for the liquids
Is this exactly the same jointer as the 6 inch Wen jointer available now? Looks like the same thing with different branding.
the new craftsman is the old delta 37-070 all & all they work very well
Do you have a sense if this would work to plain pattern plywood?
Cheapest one I found was the web sprain cutter head 6inch
Sorry for the latness but I thought it was an old vid! Hoping all is well my friend. Good review
Hey buddy! Brand new one!
I paid $60 for a used version of this only with the Delta badge. I couldn’t be more pleased with it.
Wonder if it same tool? Just different color?
@@lastingbuild1373 its identical. It’s also sold under a couple other brands. Although some of the features may be different. Some don’t have the speed control.
For something like this, or other desk top jointers what is the longest board you’d say it can handle? I’m looking to diy a farmhouse table. Either 6-8’ boards. 2x6/8 most likely pine.
I wouldn’t recommend anything longer than the length of the tool.
Can you replace the blades with helical cutters?
I read on amazon reviews that they burnout eseally , any thouhts on this?
Wow.
I miss your content and videos! Hope all is well.
What makes the blades/knives sharpen-able vs. not?
This is nearly identical to the Shop Fox 6" spiral - same fence and body, except your's has the speed regulator (nice). Have you had any issues with fence deflection, especially for longer boards? Even though the fence is square to the table, I can never get a squared reference edge. Like you said in the vid, not meant for longer boards.
I only use it for boards about 2 ft or less in length! No issues so far!
Okay I have to ask where did you get ear protection for your dog? I have been thinking about that for the future!!
Here is the link for the video I did for it! czcams.com/video/ujdhQgBPzwA/video.html
It’s the same as the Porter Cable I’ve been using foe 3 years.
Also sold as a Delta at some point
I am new ,and I just wanted to know what the difference is between a planner and joiner
I just bought one of these from Lowes. Setup was fairly easy. Worked great on edging a couple of boards. Turned it on to do the 3rd board and before I could even get the board on the table the motor stopped. Packed it back up and got Lowes to exchange it. Set up the 2nd unit, turned it on, ran for about 10 seconds and it stopped. I didn't even get started on the board. The control electronics in this thing is a piece of JUNK. Read the Lowes reviews before you purchase one of these. Probably more than 50% of owners have had the same issue - motor controller going bad so be aware of this if you buy this jointer. This same jointer has carried the Porter Cable and Delta names as well. WHY would these companies sell these units with such a poor history it can't be good for their brand. There are a number of CZcams postings on repairing the speed controller. In general for the small time I used this jointer I liked it. Size is perfect for me and it seemed to do exactly what I wanted. I have actually decided to keep the unit, bypass the internal speed controller and run it with an external PWM controller ordered rom Amazon. BUYER BEWARE!
That's exactly why I passed on that model. All reviews are like yours. Crazy that they still sell it. I'm holding out for a rigid planer.
Sorry you went thru this. Can you recommend a decent joiner for me?
did you have it connected to an extension cord?
Did you have this problem while running it on a dedicated 20 amp circuit without an extension cord?
@@kfk1988 Hi Kelly it is plugged directly into a wall outlet.
how do you know if the other two side are parallel to their jointed counter parts?
You can use a marking gauge indexing from the jointed sides.
When you said you paid 322$, did that include taxes and Shipping? Thanks, very interesting
I would be curious how it has held up over the past year. Any chance for an update to this tool?
Still use it multiple times per week!
How easy / hard is it to keep the fence sqaure?
The adjustment handles are plastic but so far no issue keeping it square! Takes less than a minute to adjust!
I have the same one only branded Porter Cable. Wait till you have to change and align the blades on that POS!! I hate mine...
I actually removed the blade and replaced no problem.
This one and benchtop planer which is refer Sir? Looks like benchtop planer craftman is the one. Just pay little more 35 bucks
Are all these small cheap joiners from all these other company's coming from the same factory? I swear but minus the colors these are all the same exact machine. Seems to work well for the weekend warrior like me.
Could you do 8 ft boards with this tool? Would you recommend at different way?
The footprint is too small for boards that long!
@@lastingbuild1373 dang 😞 thanks for the response though!
have you changed the knives yet,,that is my only complaint about a straight knife jointer,,
unboxed this unit yesterday, ran a couple of boards and today it started making a noise when you turn the unit of.. sounds the the motor is struggling. Anyone else have this issue?
What do you consider a big project we’re doing a table top to make a coffee bar maybe 2’ x 5’ be considered a big project
jointer or planer ? which is best if you could only buy one?
Most buy a planer first but the two tools compliment one another
I’ve got a beginner question for you! I’ve noticed in these tutorials that nobody seems to run both edges on the jointer. Is the idea to only do one side and then use it as a reference on a table saw?
exactly, with both tools set up correctly you'll get perfectly parallel edges and you could cut it right on size at the same time.
Same goes for the flat sides, you use the jointed side as a reference surface in a planer.
one edge - opposite edge gets cut on the table saw. one surface opposite surface gets thickness planed.
Usually paired with a planer to get both large faces flat and parallel. I use a table saw for the second thin edge, then can run it on the jointer to remove saw marks.
As the other replies have said, the answer is Yes-cut second side on table saw. Otherwise there’s no guarantee the sides are parallel. Think of a board that’s 1/8” wider on one side. It might look square but if you joint the second side, it’s still not parallel.
How long of a board can you joint through that
Easily 3-4 ft
I hope you come back to making vids again
For edge jointing this is ok. For width jointing not only this one but all jointers just create a problem. That 1 x 4 6 8 10 etc when face jointed is now less than the original nominal 3/4 inch. Now you need a planer too.
Can you replace the blades with a helical blade?
I don’t think so!
Haw about the noise? Db
Sorry for a dumb question but what is the difference between a planer and a jointer? Not a hand planer, but electric.
A planer references off the wood your planing you got to have a flat side to start with and the jointer references off the bed of the jointer.hope that makes sense.
@@donpayne562 Oh. Hmmm
@@theropesofrenovation9352 They appear to do the same thing, but in order for you to use a planner to make both sides of the board flat you have to start with either a jointer or a DIY jointer sled that you use with your planner to get one side flat as a planner by itself will not accomplish this. Once you have a flat side then you can flip it over with the flat side on the bottom and run it through your planner. Let me know if you need any help.
Btw, no question is a dumb question. I enjoy helping and inspiring others to build something awesome!
@@inspiringbuilds Haven't used either item and couldn't figure out the difference. Thanks!
Bought one of these. It crapped out in a few weeks time randomly. Just shut off and never turned back on. Returned to store for another one. That one lasted less than a week. Got my money back on that one. From reading others experience online this is common. I would not recommend. When it works, it is a good little joiner....but both I had stopped working. If you still want to give it a go, make sure the store you buy it from has a good return policy.
Thanks for sharing! I wonder if other viewers have experienced similar?
It’s the switch! JUST CHANGE THE GOD DAMNED SWITCH AND STFU
We recently lumbered a 36" maple, a 36" white ash, and a 32" pecan. After drying, we tried planing with a Rigid (Home Depot) 13" planer with 2 HSS knives czcams.com/users/postUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . This job was clearly too much for that machine. The pecan was particularly difficult, due to heavy mineral deposits, and a sharp pair of HSS knives would be consumed by a mere 3 boards. We were also having lots of problems from chip bruising, due to poor dust collection. The shavings came off like straw and jammed in the 4" hose.We bought the DW735 simply to be able to run carbide blades, which worked brilliantly for the pecan. However, we found it to be a much, MUCH nicer machine. It was far more rigid than the "Rigid" planer, and far more accurate as well. But what I liked most about it was the dust feed. This machine has its own blower, which shreds the "straw" like shavings as they come off the cutting head and helps boost the shavings into the dust collection system. No more clogs! It's also nicely sealed so that the internals stay quite clean. This is just a well tempered machine that's a delight to use. It literally cut the labor in half. Just another example of getting what you pay for.
The adjustable speed goes out and the unit is worthless unless you bypass it, a common complaint.
Mine is still working just fine!
Still working well?
Yes! Use it daily!
4:26 Hahaha
Been four months! Have you quit CZcams? Love your channel!
That is literally a WEN with a Craftsman sticker.
By the way, FYI, Amazon jacked the price up to $389.00 now.
$269 for a 6" WEN spiral jointer on AMZN
Looks like my 20+ year old delta
Looks like clone of my $225 6" Grizzly
looks like a Porta cable
Same experience as others with this inferior unit, bought it as a portable but didn't even dull one set of blades before the electronics quit. Either buy a good hand plane or buy a better jointer.
WEN is the cheapest. Craftsman has never been cheaper than the WEN.
The WEN 6559 6-inch 10-amp is $267.82, and has been that price on Amazon for over a year, so the Craftsman is not the cheapest.
Didn't see that one when I bought it.
Amazon is always over priced
It was same price at my local big box store.
I dislike giving money to them, but it's typically close in price for me and it ships to your door quickly assuming you have a prime account.
I had two that died. Customer service replaced one and reimbursed the other.
I would say if anybody has the money for this put it back in your pocket and save up for something useful
Not a complete review without a blade change or any kind of longevity test.
I have one and I think it would be better as a boat anchor. What a piece of trash.
These planners cannot handle much over the long term. I bought one that had a sizable chunk of the aluminum bed break off in use. I wouldn't recommend buying one of these
What type of wood were you planing when it broke?
@@lastingbuild1373 Pine , I had it set to 1/32 and was edging several 1X4 for a table top 3rd one through BANG
The Channel seems dead now. No video since two years and no answers to comments.
I’m excited about brand new content coming soon!
Good to hear! I place my abo ! 😊
Craftsman makes the cheapest tools now. Their brand image went from best to worst in the last 20 years
They’re far from cheap tools… the same shit as any other company with bentop jointers
a year later and its now over $600