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  • "I may be an addict but I call myself an enthusiast, not an obsessive person." - Phyllis Arrandale.
    Newsnight's Julian O'Halloran reports on the growing craze for home micro-computing, which has seen hitherto respectable people exhibiting levels of fervourish devotion to computer programming and game playing that borders on addiction.
    Julian meets Chris Carter, a seemingly ordinary man who works for his local council, but who spends his lunch breaks in the local pub, playing the arcade machine. Chris has spent thousands of pounds on home computers, and spends 20 to 40 hours a week programming them - sometimes right through the night. His latest project is a house design program - one that he expects to spend at least 6 months writing - but one that he does not envisage using himself.
    Next, Julian speaks to Graham Hawker, who has developed an obsession with computer games, he is currently working his way through Adventure in Serenia. Graham finds the idea of pitting his wits against a perfect machine incredibly compelling.
    Finally, Julia visits Hertfordshire sweet shop owner Phyllis Arrandale. Phyllis originally bought a computer to help out with her accounts, but was so impressed with it that she began programming software of her own. Now, she is attempting to make a printed circuit board, with the ultimate aim of making her own computer from scratch.
    Clip taken from Newsnight originally broadcast on BBC Two, 19 January, 1983.
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  • @himselfe
    @himselfe Před měsícem +1432

    A quick google reveals that Phyllis passed away in 2003, 20 years after this show. I hope those 20 years were filled with countless hours of joyful tinkering and hacking away at computers.

    • @cptnkrenon
      @cptnkrenon Před měsícem +73

      That's sad to hear. :-( I love her enthusiasm for computing, I remember that she also appeared in the first episode of The Computer Programme. czcams.com/video/jtMWEiCdsfc/video.htmlsi=vBRvDTDPGtYBlAGW&t=705

    • @jonathankleinow2073
      @jonathankleinow2073 Před měsícem +65

      I'm glad she was able to find meaning in the hobby of electronics when she did. I can only imagine what she could accomplish in the modern era with made-to-order PCBs, Arduinos, etc.

    • @bobhopest3540
      @bobhopest3540 Před měsícem +12

      @@cptnkrenonthanks for sharing the link!

    • @jimsimpson1006
      @jimsimpson1006 Před měsícem +14

      Ah very sad to hear that. She is shown in an episode of The Computer Programme, still available on the BBC iPlayer. Well worth a watch.

    • @christopher9727
      @christopher9727 Před měsícem

      ...
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      Romans 6.23
      For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
      John 3:16-21
      16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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      15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
      2 Peter 3:9
      The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
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      6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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  • @jimmyhoke
    @jimmyhoke Před měsícem +1049

    People staying at home with on their computers instead of having friends? That’ll never happen.

    • @orangejjay
      @orangejjay Před měsícem +35

      Can you imagine what those people would be like if it did happen?
      They might be like ... people! People like you and me! 😮

    • @BuckfangAnimated
      @BuckfangAnimated Před měsícem +10

      It’s the same in the states, and even more isolated by the numbers.

    • @christopher9727
      @christopher9727 Před měsícem

      ....
      Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven
      There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
      Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
      Come to Jesus Christ today
      Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
      Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
      Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
      Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
      Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will
      John 3:16-21
      16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
      Mark 1.15
      15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
      2 Peter 3:9
      The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
      Hebrews 11:6
      6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
      Jesus

    • @LethalBubbles
      @LethalBubbles Před měsícem +10

      you'll believe anything you see on trash tv

    • @rensha8635
      @rensha8635 Před měsícem +3

      😂

  • @BadgerOfTheSea
    @BadgerOfTheSea Před měsícem +236

    "He puts in 20 - 40 hours a week at the keyboard" damn what an addict * sweats nervously *

    • @unebonnevie
      @unebonnevie Před 15 dny +6

      He was PASSIONATE about computers not an addict! This is the very trait that companies like Google, etc., were founded.

    • @chimpcurious3203
      @chimpcurious3203 Před 13 dny +6

      I spend like 70-80 Hours at day on my computer.

    • @dwithunbrahma9253
      @dwithunbrahma9253 Před 13 dny +2

      @@chimpcurious3203 what is your secret? How do you live more than 24 hours a day?

    • @chimpcurious3203
      @chimpcurious3203 Před 13 dny +1

      @@dwithunbrahma9253 Im a being outside the space and time.

    • @jackblack7850
      @jackblack7850 Před 8 dny

      @@dwithunbrahma9253meth

  • @Alley00Cat
    @Alley00Cat Před 25 dny +135

    Phyllis got a computer and saved herself 5 hours of paperwork per day. She then basically decided to learn coding and electrical engineering. Today we would celebrate her as a genius, curious and resourceful person. Back in the day computers were new, so she was simply described as an “addict”? It’s pretty interesting how we perceive new things as “addictive” and dangerous. We spend 8 hours in front of a computer every day, but we don’t call it an addiction, just “work”

    • @suli687
      @suli687 Před 25 dny

      it's about all of this explained at 1:30

    • @lukemorgan6166
      @lukemorgan6166 Před 2 dny

      Don't lump other people in the notion of
      "we"
      What you describe is a handful of people who want to control and dictate other peoples lives as much as possible

  • @123moe
    @123moe Před měsícem +287

    "20-40hrs a week day and night" LMAO RIP 2024 people, that sums up like 90% of us all now

  • @ianpickering4020
    @ianpickering4020 Před měsícem +341

    Graham always wore a suit and tie to play computer games - what a splendid chap!

    • @crezzwell
      @crezzwell Před 14 dny

      I am crying with laughter reading your comment. Well done Graham.

    • @crezzwell
      @crezzwell Před 13 dny +1

      @@ajs41 And standing while playing the adventure game........... good on you Graham!!

    • @williamdoyle1108
      @williamdoyle1108 Před 4 dny

      People generally dressed better back then.

  • @frustratedalien666
    @frustratedalien666 Před 24 dny +54

    "Why do people climb mountains" is a great argument whenever people ask dumb questions. Apparently, some pointless activities are great and build character while other pointless activities are just pointless. I don't enjoy art, but I can't go around saying that being a painter is pointless when I spend hours listening to music 🤷‍♂️

  • @Aerojet01
    @Aerojet01 Před měsícem +234

    The good old days when computers were fresh and exciting. I admired Phyllis for embracing computers and spending hours learning it from stock control to being a hobbyist.

    • @mornnb
      @mornnb Před měsícem +9

      Modern version of this - messing around with LLM's on your nvidia GPU.

    • @Aerojet01
      @Aerojet01 Před měsícem +1

      @@mornnb Good point. It's also like the dating game. GPU is supplicated, intelligent and flawless. Whereas, some people like personality and quirkiness.

    • @kalidesu
      @kalidesu Před 25 dny

      @@mornnb Or AMD GPUs with AMD ROCm or Zluda ;)

    • @DanielAnderssson
      @DanielAnderssson Před 24 dny +3

      There's always something new & fresh with computers and technology

    • @newbleppmore7855
      @newbleppmore7855 Před 23 dny

      People i speak to who were around then say they thought they were rubbish even back

  • @cptnkrenon
    @cptnkrenon Před měsícem +182

    Graham Hawker in the clip "...the computer's perfect it doesn't make mistakes it responds in an absolutely predictable way so in exploring anything that the computer's doing with you anything that happens that you didn't want to happen is purely your fault" - Graham has obviously not yet encountered any software written by Microsoft or Adobe...

    • @therealcaldini
      @therealcaldini Před měsícem +15

      Or cosmic rays flipping memory bits

    • @Xezlec
      @Xezlec Před měsícem +23

      Yeah that remark really captured how I fell out of love with computers after being totally obsessed for 30 years. They aren't predictable anymore. Working with them now is less like operating a machine, and more like trying to influence a person.

    • @thegeforce6625
      @thegeforce6625 Před měsícem +1

      @@Xezlechonestly yeah agreed

    • @michalsvihla1403
      @michalsvihla1403 Před měsícem +10

      @@Xezlec Yup. There's so much abstraction upon abstraction that tries to mimic human thinking that at some point it just becomes counterintuitive because not everyone thinks alike.

    • @BeardLAD
      @BeardLAD Před 27 dny +2

      And to a degree he was conflating ‘perfect’ with ‘unbiased’ - the computer will only operate according to its programming…
      …imperfections these days are the result of programmer bias.

  • @VitoDepho
    @VitoDepho Před měsícem +650

    Every day playing at a coin-operated "computer" at a pub at lunchtime and then in the evening, at home: abnormal, an addict.
    Every day, having drinks at a pub at lunchtime and then after work, maybe again at home: completely normal, no addiction there at all.

    • @ebridgewater
      @ebridgewater Před měsícem +10

      What they were saying was that he works with them all day at work (even in his lunch break), then again in the evening and sometimes (often?) through the night. People rarely drink in the same way.

    • @michelvanbriemen3459
      @michelvanbriemen3459 Před měsícem +42

      Normal's just what most people do.
      It's when people object to conformity and go their own way that the "normal people" get startled with the thought that what they themselves are doing isn't normal anymore.

    • @PiYodTong
      @PiYodTong Před měsícem +36

      This is England, Alcoholism is a major part of their national identity.

    • @andywatts8654
      @andywatts8654 Před měsícem +5

      Lots of business deals were stuck in pubs and many of the worlds problems solved

    • @phillippereira6468
      @phillippereira6468 Před měsícem +14

      @@andywatts8654pretty certain London didn’t solve many world problems…cause them yes..solve no

  • @generalshakewell
    @generalshakewell Před měsícem +178

    It's amazing how corporations managed to use all the added efficiency and productivity that computers brought while still simultaneously crushing the souls of their employees.

    • @MelroyvandenBerg
      @MelroyvandenBerg Před měsícem +11

      that is on purpose

    • @relo999
      @relo999 Před 28 dny +3

      That's the classic Luddite fallacy, people change jobs but there aren't less jobs to be done.

    • @DanielWillen
      @DanielWillen Před 28 dny +4

      Yep and now we see this with AI.

    • @swingtag1041
      @swingtag1041 Před 27 dny +3

      It's amazing how the employees let that happen. They just scrambled amongst themselves and never said anything to the corporate Masters because they're so weak and cowardly.

    • @nikosv7230
      @nikosv7230 Před 27 dny +3

      @@swingtag1041You think you can do better?

  • @digitalarchaeologist5102
    @digitalarchaeologist5102 Před 28 dny +73

    I was absolutely blown away by Phyllis. Especially as someone now who just orders a PCB from PCBWay. Amazing.

  • @Soso-km8er
    @Soso-km8er Před měsícem +376

    „I like computers.“
    The 70s - „?“
    The 80s - „That’s odd“
    The 90s - „I’ll make you a millionaire.“
    The 2000s „I’ll make you a billionaire.“
    The 2010s „You’ll have a stable job“
    The 2020s „I’ll replace you with AI!“

    • @Super_Cool_Guy
      @Super_Cool_Guy Před měsícem +27

      *The 2030s and beyond...I have become A.I. 😄👍*

    • @user-wd2pz9fw3g
      @user-wd2pz9fw3g Před měsícem +13

      2040 We will be at war with Skynet 😂

    • @Politely_Indifferent
      @Politely_Indifferent Před měsícem +11

      2030s - I'll program my own AI and lease it to your competitors. Check Mate.

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 Před měsícem +4

      @@Politely_Indifferent 2100 Humans lost the battle against machines

    • @realcartoongirl
      @realcartoongirl Před měsícem +9

      imagine "ai" become a subscription model and people start hiring staff again because it was cheaper

  • @silentblackhole
    @silentblackhole Před měsícem +102

    The story of Phyllis was surprisingly heartwarming. Seeing a lady and an older one at that interested in computers so much and right at the start of the home computer revolution was fantastic! I wasn't even alive when this report was made but I think I would have gotten on well with her and shared the same computer hobbies as her. I hope she finished building those computer parts and more.

    • @jamesherman3750
      @jamesherman3750 Před 22 dny +2

      It was refreshing to see and certainly destroys the old boomers of todays' way of thinking.

    • @PraxisAbraxis
      @PraxisAbraxis Před 20 dny +2

      @@jamesherman3750Do you think she was the norm of her generation? Don't generalize entire generations part and parcel simply because there happen to be a lot of s***heads amongst them. Newsflash, that's true for every generation.
      (btw, I'm a Millennial. I've known a wide range of people and personalities of all ages. Boomers included)

    • @SeasideBandit
      @SeasideBandit Před 18 dny +2

      If not completing her goals, I bet she had so much fun pursuing them, and that is what counts.

    • @DriveCancelDC
      @DriveCancelDC Před 13 dny +1

      She’s a legend. I really hate it when people say they’re too old to learn x or change their ways. Very refreshing and inspiring.

  • @ralphmcmahan2139
    @ralphmcmahan2139 Před 28 dny +60

    As a thirteen year old I look back and can't believe I was lucky enough to have had parents who could afford (if only barely) to support my habit. Thanks Mom and dad. I'm sure you sacrificed so I could never see sunlight.

    • @harrypottermago1870
      @harrypottermago1870 Před 27 dny +1

      Kkkkk cada uma!!

    • @cassanateli
      @cassanateli Před 24 dny +7

      “As a thirteen year old I look back…” might be the most pompous opening I’ve ever read to anything

  • @rayder3543
    @rayder3543 Před měsícem +238

    The scary thing is that those ‘83 middle age and old people have a more open mind and will to experiment out of their comfort zone than nowadays’ boomers. The old lady literally ran a shop, made her own program and made their own hardware, that’s sick.

    • @jacekicksass
      @jacekicksass Před měsícem +17

      It's what happens when everything is served to you on a silver platter...

    • @unnamedchannel1237
      @unnamedchannel1237 Před měsícem +9

      Yep and it’s hear everyday from muppets, I did t grow up with computers like you. Hold on old boy. I did t get a computer until I was 18, my primary school had 1 computer for 250 students to use . My highschool had one computer lab of 15 computers for 1000 students. I didn’t get a phone until I was 20 . Your excuses don’t fly with me old man

    • @OoooooooLongJohnson
      @OoooooooLongJohnson Před měsícem +5

      My grandpa was her age and refused to have anything more than a landline up until his death and he was a wealthy man!

    • @Montgomerygolfgator
      @Montgomerygolfgator Před měsícem +4

      In the years between 1984 and 1998, they bought their first computer. Still can't get to Gmail by themselves.

    • @Maximus20778
      @Maximus20778 Před měsícem +1

      @@unnamedchannel1237 didn't have my first computer until i was 18(dell inspiron 1545) and first phone when i was 13. LOL

  • @ricardog2165
    @ricardog2165 Před měsícem +70

    Phyllis is amazing! 😊

    • @surject
      @surject Před měsícem

      Would have been an awesome granny. I didn't really had one. Still became a computer addict ..eh I mean enthusiast.

  • @marklechman2225
    @marklechman2225 Před měsícem +67

    That Phyllis lady is awesome. No fear, she just dove right in and became a power user.👍

    • @noplace82
      @noplace82 Před měsícem +1

      From the Herald Express 18/9/1982:
      'BRAIN in a sweet shop'
      THE 21st century has come
      a little carly to Phyllis Arrandale's tiny sweet shop.
      Tucked away in a room
      behind a shop decked out with
      jars of humbugs and cough
      candies and adorned with
      flowery chocolate boxes is a
      microcomputer, which makes
      her life so much simpler.
      Phylis is one of many small
      shopkeepers who are investing
      in a computer to save time and
      energy in dealing with their ac-
      counts, stocks, and other paper-
      work.
      Now aged 66 and having had
      the computer for three years,
      Phyllis said: "So many people
      in small shops and businesses
      do not realise what a boon a
      computer could be to them,"'
      Phyllis spent more than
      £3,000 on the computer and it
      has solved many of her pro
      blems.
      She said: "I buy my goods
      from 42 firms and before I got
      the computer, the paperwork
      was unbelievable, I was gelting
      so far behnd with it as I could
      not keep pace.
      "i used to open the shop at
      eight in the morning and close
      at six in the evening. Every
      night I had to deal with the
      paperwork until I flopped into
      bed exhausted.''
      Phyllis learned how to pro-
      gramme the computer to keep
      details of her stocks of confec-
      tionery and tobacco and if bills
      had been paid.
      She is now so adept with the
      computer that three other firms
      based near the sweet shop in
      Hitchin, Hertfordshire, are us-
      ing it to help work out their ac-
      counts.
      Phyllis believes that this is
      the shape of things to come in
      small shops and Businesses as
      small computers are so useful
      in cutting out time - wasting
      paperwork.
      This is especially true in the
      case of her one - woman
      business which has sales of
      about £20,000 a year.
      A spokesman for Informa-
      tion Technology Year 1982,
      said: "'Systems like these can
      keep prices down and service is
      considerably improved by en-
      suring stocks do not run down
      and a wider choice is available.
      "In a competitive high street
      it is as important for the small
      stop to provide such benefits
      as it is for the large retatl
      outlet.
      "Even very small businesses
      can now afford microcom-
      puters. Many weighing
      machines and cash registers are
      now available for the small
      stopkeeper, processing tran-
      sactions in a form that makes
      keeping their books and con-
      trolling their stock far easier,
      "Inexpensive computers can
      now cut down the hours of
      paperwork
      which is pro-
      bably the most tedious chore
      for one person businesses
      and they also provide far better
      information
      on how the
      business is doing.

    • @DavidBerglund
      @DavidBerglund Před 29 dny

      Those days you dropped right into a terminal where you could start programming. Well, you had to start programming to make it do useful stuff, so you learned how it worked. We have a lot of computers and computing and software today but there's so much of it and so complex that it doesn't occur to most people that you too could make your own programs. Or change how your computer behaves. Of course you can't readily just reprogram much of what runs on most computers anyway so you have that working against you. You still get a lot of people that are like Phyllis of course but I'd like to see more.

  • @louise_rose
    @louise_rose Před měsícem +70

    The dawn of the home and office computers age - Kraftwerk had just released their "Computer World" album, which proved to be truly prophetic.

    • @DavidRinkevich
      @DavidRinkevich Před měsícem +9

      It amazes me how prophetic that album is in terms of its central theme (Computer World and Computer Love especially) and how influential it was in the evolution of electronic music, and yet it doesn't get the 100th of the mass recognition it should rightfully have in both aspects.

    • @jeshkam
      @jeshkam Před měsícem +2

      Incidentally, I thought Chris Carter's computer was similar to the one on the cover of the album, but Wikipedia states it's actually the Hazeltine 1500.

    • @louise_rose
      @louise_rose Před měsícem +1

      @@jeshkam I remember my mum's Amstrad PC - her first home computer and one I also used occasionally (as a word processor, mostly). There was an annoying tendency for documents to get lost between sessions or turn up in the wrong folder - it was long before the later easy-to-use, intuitive library interfaces that would arrive during the 1990s...

    • @jeshkam
      @jeshkam Před měsícem

      @@louise_rose Yes, using those 1980s old timers was definitely not an easy thing to do. 😉

    • @saulabbott-atchison6660
      @saulabbott-atchison6660 Před měsícem +1

      I dont know what to do . I need a rendezvous

  • @hanleyforhire
    @hanleyforhire Před měsícem +28

    My late grandfather kept his mental faculties through his whole life, and I have no doubt that the time he invested on his computer helped that. First on a Commodore 64, then on a Macintosh. As a kid, the simple programs were like magic to me.

    • @PsychoticAnarchist69
      @PsychoticAnarchist69 Před 18 dny +2

      I mean they are. I still play around with my commodore and that thing impresses me to no end. Knowing that all of this is going on inside a tiny 8 bit processor that costs like 20 bucks is insane and then seeing how it scaled into my ryzen 5 on my gaming rig is miraculous. Its mental how much progress has been made.

  • @fluffykitties9020
    @fluffykitties9020 Před 27 dny +23

    I love the way Phyllis opened the box of electronic parts, it looked like she was opening a tasty box of chocolates. LOL.

    • @NuGanjaTron
      @NuGanjaTron Před 5 dny

      I wonder about those pots and caps tho. Did she order a computer or a synth kit??? "Well luv, they're supposed to go BLEEP and BLOOP, aren't they?" 😆
      For that matter, wonder if she ever finished that project.

    • @fluffykitties9020
      @fluffykitties9020 Před 5 dny

      @@NuGanjaTron
      Maybe for manual control of cooling fan? :)

  • @dopy8418
    @dopy8418 Před měsícem +22

    good man… You guys are watching this on uour phone because of man like this.

  • @SomeDudeInBaltimore
    @SomeDudeInBaltimore Před měsícem +107

    OMG...I'm seeing at least 25,000 lines in that BASIC program of his! And so many condensed one-liners! This dude was a God level BASIC programmer.

    • @jeffmccloud905
      @jeffmccloud905 Před měsícem +17

      Maybe... but it was pretty common to skip up to some very large line number like 10000, if you suddenly needed a GOSUB. You might be writing code at line 250, but you wouldn't want to start a subroutine at 251 or 300, because you might need to go back and modify the code above the subroutine, causing it to grow

    • @mach5406
      @mach5406 Před měsícem +12

      I programmed a debtors system in the early 90's. 32000 lines of Turbo Basic and 34 modules. I'm now coding a code editor amongst other large system apps.

    • @DavidCalderonNJ
      @DavidCalderonNJ Před 27 dny +3

      Last thing I did with BASIC was an AOL IM bomber in the mid 90s. I sucked. To be fair I was 12.

    • @jinxterx
      @jinxterx Před 23 dny +1

      @@mach5406 That's just what the world needs..yet another code editor.

    • @mach5406
      @mach5406 Před 22 dny +3

      @@jinxterx The difference is that my code editor is way different to any others I've seen or used, so no, not YET another. It's a completely new take.

  • @KickintheK
    @KickintheK Před 15 dny +6

    The only obsession here was on the journalist trying to convince the interviewees that they were addicts.

  • @JohnHonda101
    @JohnHonda101 Před měsícem +39

    I wasn't expecting the shop owner to be the computer geek at the end.

  • @CyclingSteve
    @CyclingSteve Před měsícem +151

    Not addicts, just people enthusiastically embracing change. The people calling them addicts should be a lesson to us all, don't get stuck in your old ways.

    • @orangejjay
      @orangejjay Před měsícem +3

      To be fair, they could be both...! But I agree with you 100%.
      Literally everything there is changing. Nothing in this universe is unchanging and permanent.
      The best thing we can do for our own happiness is to embrace change and see all change with equanimity. ❤

    • @ncot_tech
      @ncot_tech Před měsícem +23

      "Hello I am your typical dull 1980s British TV reporter. I am here to make anything that doesn't fit the standard 9-5 office job lifestyle sound silly and strange, so you keep doing your 9-5 office job. Now get down to the pub at lunch like normal people and drink some beer"

    • @Maximus20778
      @Maximus20778 Před měsícem

      @@ncot_tech crazy how it changed decades after.

    • @arvaneret_329
      @arvaneret_329 Před 27 dny +4

      Not every instance of change in society is good. Change isn't necessarily good for its own sake. "Getting stuck in your old ways" can be following the scientific method, for example. Why would you want to change the fact that 2+2=4?

    • @Maximus20778
      @Maximus20778 Před 27 dny +1

      @@arvaneret_329 that makes no sense since everyone has learned 2+2=4

  • @MoonOvIce
    @MoonOvIce Před 27 dny +12

    Man, I'm from Uruguay (south America) and even though *someone* had computers in 1983, it was mostly for the very well off and most people were definitely not thinking of implementing it in their own small business! Only big businesses did, I was born in '88 and my birth certificate isn't even digital (the original one), had to go through a process so it was digitalized and I could access it online!
    I swear the English and many Americans were basically living in the future at that time.

    • @leodf1
      @leodf1 Před 8 dny

      I always wondered where Uruguay was.

  • @miltonpessa4930
    @miltonpessa4930 Před měsícem +10

    7:42 "What they don't tell you is that you just might find your relationship with the machine more intense than you expected." If only they knew...

  • @anubisystems
    @anubisystems Před 26 dny +4

    These documentaries are just outstanding, is like opening a door, looking through it and seeing the past. I also consider myself an enthusiast of computers not an addict despite of spending from 18 to 20 hours a day in one. I don´t really use my cellphone much and I don´t use social networks either. Thanks to these enthusiasts is why technology has progressed so much, thanks for their time! life well spent!

  • @navalenigma
    @navalenigma Před měsícem +30

    She'd have loved to work at Bletchley, perhaps she did...

  • @JourneyPT
    @JourneyPT Před 29 dny +1

    This is very heartwarming. Glad YT recommended this. ❤

  • @stevestannard6004
    @stevestannard6004 Před měsícem +43

    I'd love to know what these people are doing now.

    • @EmJayEll
      @EmJayEll Před měsícem +17

      the first google result for Phyllis Arrandale shows that she lived in Hitchin, Hartfordshire for the rest of her life and died in 2003. So presumably she'll have moved on to more modern systems later on, or lost her interest in programming.

    • @markf.3617
      @markf.3617 Před měsícem +6

      Pushing up the daisies 😅

    • @unknownpng650
      @unknownpng650 Před 23 dny +1

      dead

  • @coderider3022
    @coderider3022 Před měsícem +19

    I’ve slowly morphed into this guy. As a software engineer , nothing has changed ! 3 months of dev, doubt he does TDD.

  • @jasonschulz5637
    @jasonschulz5637 Před 18 dny +1

    What a joy to watch. Absolutely adorable and refreshing. Makes you appreciate these machines even more.

  • @felixg.6493
    @felixg.6493 Před 27 dny +4

    It's inspiring how articulate and respectable these lads where!

  • @coderider3022
    @coderider3022 Před měsícem +26

    Phillys at the end there. Wow.

  • @nourse
    @nourse Před 17 dny +4

    "Why do people climb mountains?"
    He sums it up well.

  • @jimsimpson1006
    @jimsimpson1006 Před měsícem +53

    At 5:26 I remember that lady was in an episode of The Computer Programme. Her little sweet shop was called The Chocolate Box.
    EDIT
    That episode can still be seen on the BBC iPlayer.

    • @makara80
      @makara80 Před měsícem +15

      Since appearing in that show a year earlier I note that Phylis now has _two_ Commodore PETS! Business for her then must’ve been booming because PETS weren’t cheap and otherwise beyond the means of a sweet shop owner one would think.

    • @navalenigma
      @navalenigma Před měsícem +4

      She really progressed, what a star!

    • @mattsan70
      @mattsan70 Před měsícem +8

      @@makara80 Under counter dealing perhaps? Her sweet shop just a front for organised drug gangs ?

    • @MacXpert74
      @MacXpert74 Před měsícem +5

      @@makara80 I don't know anything about her business, but my guess would be she was not a person to spend her money on things like going out. And as this was her hobby, she probably spend some of her savings on that. You didn't exactly have to be loaded to own two computers in 1983.

    • @jonbondMPG
      @jonbondMPG Před měsícem +7

      I love how she wanted to multi-task... so just owns two Commodores :D

  • @RaquelFoster
    @RaquelFoster Před měsícem +59

    20 to 40 hours/week at the keyboard! Most developers only dream of a job where they could spend 20-40 hours/week at the keyboard instead of in meetings!

    • @lightfox11
      @lightfox11 Před měsícem +1

      I am at a keyboard all day 😅

    • @beatboy6690
      @beatboy6690 Před měsícem +1

      agile development my beloved

  • @The123dsd
    @The123dsd Před měsícem +18

    Hopefully this man is still alive.

    • @orangejjay
      @orangejjay Před měsícem +10

      He's alive and doing quite well! Went on to create a hit show in the 90s called "The X-Files!" 😊

    • @baardbi
      @baardbi Před měsícem +4

      @@orangejjayNo. That's another Chris Carter.

    • @jessihawkins9116
      @jessihawkins9116 Před měsícem

      @@baardbino same one

  • @OrangutanSquash
    @OrangutanSquash Před měsícem +13

    Phillis would have loved Ben Eater’s CZcams channel.

  • @DarkLight748
    @DarkLight748 Před měsícem +36

    Calling enthusiasts addicts distracts from the very real difficulties true addicts face.

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret Před měsícem +3

      Well said.

    • @newbleppmore7855
      @newbleppmore7855 Před 23 dny +3

      these people were genuine computer enthusiasts modern computers addicted are real, just looking for blasts of dopamine learning nothing im one of them

  • @Radtastical
    @Radtastical Před 17 dny +1

    5:50 and onward is some ASMR Heaven. RIP her beautiful soul.

  • @xjet
    @xjet Před měsícem +4

    I remember many an all-nighter spent typing in long listings in BASIC or assembler to create even the simplest of outcomes. There were scores of magazines that consisted largely of BASIC program listings that offered games and a wide range of other applications. Unlike today, there was next to no compatibility between brands and models -- although they all shared the BASIC language, each one had radically different ways to create graphics and sound so a new machine meant learning things all over again if you wanted to program it for anything other than trivial purposes.

    • @bletheringfool
      @bletheringfool Před měsícem

      Yes I had a Sinclair QL and did just that. The sense of accomplishment was amazing

    • @GothGuy885
      @GothGuy885 Před měsícem

      I still code in Basic. but I use Liberty Basic, which runs on windows, and i think, they also have Apple and Linux platform version as well. I started in H.S learning Apple basic on an II E, and have loved it ever since. I know there are other High level programming languages, but I am reluctant to learn them as Basic is what I am most proficient at.

    • @jpalmz1978
      @jpalmz1978 Před měsícem

      Remember “Input” magazine? I was about 7 or 8 when the advert appeared on a TV commercial. I coudnt wait for it to appear at the newsagents 😵‍💫

  • @oddnuts5764
    @oddnuts5764 Před měsícem +78

    Autism was largely undiagnosed in the 80s.

    • @orangejjay
      @orangejjay Před měsícem +9

      Things are certainly better today but mental health still doesn't get the attention and consideration it deserves. We're moving in a decent direction but have more to go!

    • @Jetstream__
      @Jetstream__ Před měsícem +5

      But then again people weren't called "neeks" or bullied to the level of today for being smart

    • @therealcaldini
      @therealcaldini Před měsícem +9

      That’s not autism.

    • @dajazman2k
      @dajazman2k Před měsícem +4

      found the zoomer.

    • @tpower1912
      @tpower1912 Před měsícem +11

      He doesn't strike me as autistic any more than the average engineer.
      Despite the report talking about him as an "addict" he seems more like a normal hobbyist.

  • @reflectionsAND
    @reflectionsAND Před 16 dny +2

    I admire this guy. 🎉

  • @twoddle5477
    @twoddle5477 Před 19 dny

    Phyllis, what a legend ❤

  • @captainkeyboard1007
    @captainkeyboard1007 Před 27 dny +1

    Well, count me into the In-Crowd! As an avid typist, I am so preoccupied with the microcomputer that not only I want to concentrate on aiming forward; I want to use my color laser printer and label printer, so that I may spend much time inside instead of outside. This show gives me additional appreciation to [modern] computer technology a lot more than I have imagined.

  • @macronencer
    @macronencer Před měsícem +11

    A Commodore PET! Ah, memories... also: 0:30 Mr Do! We had one of those in my first year at uni (1983, as it happens).

    • @wasitacatisaw83
      @wasitacatisaw83 Před měsícem +2

      Technically not a PET. They were called Commodore CBM 3000 here in the UK because of Philips owning the PET trademark.

    • @macronencer
      @macronencer Před měsícem

      @@wasitacatisaw83 Are you sure? I know the name was different at some point, but I'm certain we had PETs at school and that's what they were called.

    • @wasitacatisaw83
      @wasitacatisaw83 Před měsícem +1

      @@macronencer Yup. Everyone knows them as Commodore PETs these days, but at the time they came out in the UK, they were the CBM 3000.

    • @macronencer
      @macronencer Před měsícem

      @@wasitacatisaw83 Thanks. I just checked some photos on Wikipedia and I think the ones my school had were probably CBM 8000 with the proper keyboard. However, I know I've used an earlier one too with the toy keys. At some point I definitely used one that said PET on the front... but perhaps it was imported? I expect that must be what happened. It was at a facility owned by Bristol University IIRC. I suppose it could be a false memory! That can happen :)

  • @Jay-O_Carlow
    @Jay-O_Carlow Před měsícem +11

    The old Lady "Phillys" That Ran the Sweet shop LOL... Honestly Shocked me
    I Thought she was going to be into PacMan if it was out then or some game like it.. I Defo did not think that Lady was Building PC's in the back of the shop
    And not just been able to code but been able to build & Code,,, Super Impressive & At her Age to take such an interest .. I Hope she is still alive its what 40 years ago
    If she is i Bet she has a Gaming PC , Water cooled With Lights & its see thru that she built her self of course lol.. Super Impressed by her!!

    • @maxhatush5918
      @maxhatush5918 Před měsícem +2

      Highly doubt she’s still a then again she may only be in her 70s now LOL English women look elderly by their 30s

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 Před měsícem +5

      @@maxhatush5918 She died in 2003 , in her 70's

    • @Jay-O_Carlow
      @Jay-O_Carlow Před měsícem

      @@bardo0007 Awh No way!! She seemed Like the Nicest old Lady Ever I Truly Mean That!! , I say old Lady,,,
      ( Even tho i knew she was only in here 40's at the time , it was just the era & the how most women he age would have dressed, Its how my Grandmother used to dress, But she seemed So *Nice* )
      She Really did tho.. She Seemed Really Kind & Someone who Cared for others,, Is the vibe i get from her "Phillys" She Reminds me of a shop i used to buy sweets at on my way to school ..lol I'm 37 was born in 1986 & I grew up in a Small Town , But every town & Village had shops like that .. Where it was a family thing for generations.. But Sadly,,
      You never see shops like that any more,, Its all Asda , Gala , Centra Tesco etc ... Big Name brands ,Its Nothing like it used to be , & what i Really mean is ,, It was the Person more so than the Shop.. It was *Always* A really nice kind man or a Really nice woman in her 40's or 50's That Knew everyone
      And *Not* in a Bad way , Yes she would hear everything but it was people going in for a pint of milk & Staying half an hour for the company ,, Everyone at the time even the early 90's where i lived it was
      On a First name basis & I'm a pound short , James don't worry about it ill put you down in the book ,, Or I even remember been able to buy a single cigarette ( Been a bold boy lol )
      Its sad that the Tesco's & Dealz forced them all out of business..
      I *was Really hoping* She would still be alive, I Hope she has Kids & they get to see this .. The loss of a Loved one is So Hard & When a video or picture Pop's up out of the blue
      It gives you a sad but then a Really Warm Feeling ( I Lost my baby brother in his 20's we were best friends & there is not a 4 to 5 Min Gap Every hour of every day i do not think of him, It was Covid before the Jab ) .. I Only say this because last week i seen a video of him by accident because there really hard to watch
      But because it was out of the blue it gave me a really Warm & Happy feeling of there is my Brother & Best Friend.. Sorry went on a tangent there
      Well thanks @bardo0007 for letting us all know & I *Truly* Hope she has Family that she this as she is so Happy here. & Even tho i never met the woman im Irish You can tell how Nice & Kind & Caring she was!
      He Memory will never die thanks to the BBC.. Love this Channel

  • @Grunchy005
    @Grunchy005 Před měsícem +2

    Phyllis Arrandale ❤️

  • @hunter2442
    @hunter2442 Před měsícem +3

    I can relate with all of them 😭😭

  • @ivanignacio2353
    @ivanignacio2353 Před 28 dny +1

    2:13
    Los números de línea (como 2300, 2400) y las instrucciones PRINT seguidas por cadenas de texto son característicos de BASIC. Además, se puede observar el uso de GOTO y RETURN, que son instrucciones de control de flujo típicas en BASIC, lo que refuerza la idea de que estamos viendo un programa escrito en este lenguaje.
    BASIC era un lenguaje comúnmente implementado en sistemas como el IBM PC, Commodore 64, Apple II y otros, y era conocido por su accesibilidad para principiantes y su uso en educación y entre aficionados a la informática.
    El comando READY. al final indica que la máquina ha terminado de ejecutar el programa o está lista para recibir más comandos, lo cual es típico del prompt en los intérpretes de BASIC.

  • @unebonnevie
    @unebonnevie Před 15 dny

    That old lady doing hardware interfacing with the Commodore Pet computer is amazing! These folks PASSIONATE about computers not addicts! This is the very trait that companies like Google, etc., were founded.

  • @jeffmccloud905
    @jeffmccloud905 Před měsícem +2

    1983 is the year I started, with my Commodore 64. I'm a software engineer to this day. I am doing what I wanted to do when I grew up.

  • @theonetruemorty4078
    @theonetruemorty4078 Před měsícem +3

    Got my first PC at Radio Shack, a Tandy 1000 TL, a couple of years after this video was made. 8MHz, no hard drive, and was like lifting a cinder block. "Micro computer that just about fits in a spare bedroom," made me laugh pretty hard.

  • @madm4tty
    @madm4tty Před měsícem +1

    Just wanted to give a shout out to the TV show Halt and Catch Fire, can’t believe I missed it first time around. I suspect most people 40+ who lived through the early days of the internet will enjoy it.

  • @WistrelChianti
    @WistrelChianti Před měsícem +8

    Phyllis Arrandale is hero

  • @clavichord
    @clavichord Před měsícem +24

    Computers will never catch on

    • @Xiefux
      @Xiefux Před měsícem +8

      true, it was just a 80s and 90s fad

    • @Drew-Dastardly
      @Drew-Dastardly Před měsícem +3

      640kB of RAM is more than enough for anyone.

    • @arvaneret_329
      @arvaneret_329 Před 27 dny

      da heck are you talking about.

    • @redacted629
      @redacted629 Před 27 dny +1

      Bring back the abacus... all is forgiven 😂

    • @PraxisAbraxis
      @PraxisAbraxis Před 20 dny

      I'm 34. I didn't have my first computer until my family got a hand me down in '98 or more likely '99.
      I always had wanted one and my mom tried to convince my dad (we had the money) to invest in one for my sister and I.
      Well into the 90s he insisted they were a fad.
      I really wish I'd been introduced sooner but what can you do?

  • @deejagers716
    @deejagers716 Před 27 dny

    how was i happy when i start installing widows 3.1, so much floppy's , one day loosed/// so happy and than basic language secrets...programming... i still love computers , still busy most of the day with them, they are fantastic

  • @kloakovalimonada
    @kloakovalimonada Před 25 dny +2

    Go Phyllis!

  • @jeffkingston67
    @jeffkingston67 Před 27 dny

    Love the way he says 'mornin'.

  • @DeadCell765
    @DeadCell765 Před 2 dny

    This man was the OG of OG hackers

  • @daveac
    @daveac Před 26 dny

    Bought the BBC Model B when it first came out. Moved up to a BBC A3000 - then 2-slice RISC PC 600 upgraded to StrongArm (with a PC Co-Processor) SCSI Drive & TELETEXT Adapter :-)

  • @VincentVanBro
    @VincentVanBro Před měsícem +7

    this guy's lifestyle has aged like wine

  • @Vilavek
    @Vilavek Před měsícem +1

    He was really hellbent on proving computers were an "addiction" wasn't he? Silly man lol... Still, these brilliant people were able to share some interesting insights at the time into a growing culture in face of all that. I adore Phyllis!❤

  • @valentinoesposito3614
    @valentinoesposito3614 Před 13 dny

    I love Phyllis

  • @blackcatcoffee4693
    @blackcatcoffee4693 Před měsícem +2

    Not relevant but gotta love a bit of Nudges unlimited by Barcrest, I’m having trouble identifying the first machine we see next to the one he’s on. Could anyone help?

  • @octaviussludberry9016
    @octaviussludberry9016 Před měsícem +19

    I had a Bournemouth computer at the time. My mum had a Petticoat 5, which was designed for ladies.

    • @ktsmells
      @ktsmells Před měsícem +2

      I wanted a Bournemouth, but it was involved in the margarine riots.

    • @navalenigma
      @navalenigma Před měsícem

      Haha, I know this reference.

    • @MOSMASTERING
      @MOSMASTERING Před měsícem +1

      I don't know this reference 😢

    • @navalenigma
      @navalenigma Před měsícem +1

      @@MOSMASTERING Bletchley Park was where the first programmable valve computer was created during the second world war to break German Enigma codes. She'd be about the right age for working there.

    • @seansher
      @seansher Před měsícem

      @@MOSMASTERING Look around you!

  • @icedancer2370
    @icedancer2370 Před 19 dny +1

    These dudes were just innovators ahead of their time

  • @Super_Cool_Guy
    @Super_Cool_Guy Před měsícem +4

    *1:58** This girl is a genius....she's cracked it 😊👏*

  • @Chrish1981
    @Chrish1981 Před 9 dny +1

    always wondered what these guys would think if they saw even a touch of games today.

  • @dubsar
    @dubsar Před měsícem +17

    1:25
    "spare bedroom".
    Fast forward to 2023 and that is the entire apartment, minus w.c.

    • @Montgomerygolfgator
      @Montgomerygolfgator Před měsícem

      Like you don't take your phone into the bathroom...

    • @Th3D4nny
      @Th3D4nny Před 26 dny

      Bro would have to be a millionaire to afford that luxury in 2024.

  • @CampWhiskey
    @CampWhiskey Před 15 dny

    It was a wonderful time to be alive. 🤝

  • @IARRCSim
    @IARRCSim Před měsícem +1

    I wish we could learn more about how their lives continued after this. I wonder if the lady's electronics hobby evolved into significantly bigger projects.

  • @illustriouschin
    @illustriouschin Před měsícem

    Let's see these programs.

  • @DavidCalderonNJ
    @DavidCalderonNJ Před 27 dny

    Phyllis was so inspiring. Here I am wondering if I can switch from network engineer to pursuing a degree in mathematics and thinking I'm too old to do it.

  • @Wagoo
    @Wagoo Před měsícem +22

    Is it worth getting one of these "computer" thingies?

    • @jimsimpson1006
      @jimsimpson1006 Před měsícem +8

      Nah, everybody will just end up walking around glued to a screen, trust me...😅

    • @PiYodTong
      @PiYodTong Před měsícem +2

      ​​@@jimsimpson1006 So don't put it in your pocket? I'm hearing angellic trilling... voices in my head saying... flip? Flip phone? Wonder what that could mean.

    • @orangejjay
      @orangejjay Před měsícem +1

      Is it worth it? I dunno, man. I hear on those things that people go woke and end up hating people less. Is that the world you want to be a part of? 😂

  • @ReneKriest
    @ReneKriest Před 22 dny +1

    Only 7 seconds in and I cannot contain my excitement seeing a C64!

    • @yamishogun6501
      @yamishogun6501 Před 18 dny

      The CBM PET was even more exciting! I started using one at age 10.

  • @L3onOfKings
    @L3onOfKings Před měsícem +1

    I legitimately thought this was a comedy video, similar in tone to the 'Look Around You' series from BBC. Wasn't until I read through the comments that it confirmed it actually contained real computer enthusiasts of the time.

  • @ohdude6643
    @ohdude6643 Před 22 dny +1

    Oh paradise

  • @rjcgy713
    @rjcgy713 Před 22 dny

    Phyllis is awesome

  • @ucheucheuche
    @ucheucheuche Před dnem +1

    Remember, if everyone is doing it, nobody is an addict. Computers today.

  • @Sjeedughait
    @Sjeedughait Před měsícem

    5:03 the software is perfect. but we have questions with the hardware designs of .. the machine.

  • @jeffkingston67
    @jeffkingston67 Před 28 dny

    "You might find your relationship with a machine more intense than you expected," yeah... fair point.

  • @hamkasu
    @hamkasu Před měsícem +17

    Wonder what happened to them now

    • @nataliep6385
      @nataliep6385 Před měsícem +12

      They have multiple accounts where they troll on reddit with.

    • @danielktdoranie
      @danielktdoranie Před měsícem +9

      @@nataliep6385the old lady is the worse, she drops the hard r at a moments notice

    • @orangejjay
      @orangejjay Před měsícem

      ​@@danielktdoranie"That's just what we call them! I'm not racist! I don't see coloreds!" 😂

  • @SfilmujMnie
    @SfilmujMnie Před 3 dny

    This one is calssic! Dude is my hero. This video is like never recorded Monty Python gag.

  • @IARRCSim
    @IARRCSim Před měsícem

    Most of the computers in this video are Commodores obviously because of the Commodore logos. Are they more specifically Commodore PET's? 0:22 and 5:45 are the parts I'm most curious about. Commodore CBM is on one but that's just short for Commodore Business Machines.

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 Před měsícem

      Yep, they are the PET machines. By 1983 those were already discontinued and deemed a relic since they weren't really expandable the same way an Apple // machine could be enhanced into. Plus, you had the 16 bit PCs out by then that was way better suited for business tasks.

  • @SinbadCarey
    @SinbadCarey Před 26 dny +1

    Sounds like Phyllis, bless her soul, should have worked on the Post Office’s Horizon system instead of Fujitsu

  • @computer-training-for-seniors

    I started off with computer art at high school in 1985 on a Commodore 64 and Apple 2e.

  • @TrueBlade-1889
    @TrueBlade-1889 Před 27 dny

    I wonder if the Post Office Horizon systems still use these ... ? 😊

  • @amiwho3464
    @amiwho3464 Před 16 dny +1

    Legend 😅

  • @doriphor
    @doriphor Před 25 dny

    I wonder where they are now! Well I just read about Phyllis passing away in 2003, but the two others.

  • @hughjass8430
    @hughjass8430 Před měsícem +11

    Jesus, Phyllis was unreal. Pity she wasnt around to see the real takeoff of home computing and the Internet in the mid to late 90s.

    • @MrBarneyDinosaur
      @MrBarneyDinosaur Před měsícem +12

      She was. Died 2003 though.

    • @okee9
      @okee9 Před měsícem +5

      She’d probably have loved the onset of the worldwide web in the early 90’s and have had her own website, bless her

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 Před měsícem

      @@okee9 Guaranteed she had a Geocities web site.

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret Před měsícem

      She probably would have been one of those people like me who is annoyed that most 500 dollar phones from a DECADE ago had 1440p screens, and now 1080p is somehow accepted on thousand dollar phones as well as sub-100 dollar phones. Some tech peaked to such a degree that OEMs had to gaslight people into thinking that less was somehow more (and it worked somehow!!!). Real tech enthusiasts don't make excuses for downgrades in tech, and I get the vibe that she would be out there as part of the right to repair movement, trying to get companies to remember that durability and stability can be a premium feature.

    • @JP-xd6fm
      @JP-xd6fm Před 27 dny

      @@awesomeferret People is stupid. That's why apple sell well, and tesla and any other stupid company.

  • @sanyr80
    @sanyr80 Před 13 dny

    phyllis is a sweetheart

  • @bradleyhowell4155
    @bradleyhowell4155 Před 2 dny

    Now they should do one about folks that arent addicted to screens.

  • @videooblivion
    @videooblivion Před 24 dny

    Commodore 🥰
    Sierra On-Line 🥰
    Miss you.

  • @oldprecision
    @oldprecision Před 23 dny

    Commodore PET and dual floppy drive was a serious purchase.

  • @mannykhan7752
    @mannykhan7752 Před 9 dny

    Is there a typo in the title? Im sure these sort of computers were not even there in 1983 (apples Macintosh came in 1984). The graphics on Grahams PC are CGA graphics and those were around in the early 90s.

  • @TheRealCasadaro
    @TheRealCasadaro Před 25 dny

    We do it because it is the will of the force the drives us to make any decision.