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- "I may be an addict but I call myself an enthusiast, not an obsessive person." - Phyllis Arrandale.
Newsnight's Julian O'Halloran reports on the growing craze for home micro-computing, which has seen hitherto respectable people exhibiting levels of fervourish devotion to computer programming and game playing that borders on addiction.
Julian meets Chris Carter, a seemingly ordinary man who works for his local council, but who spends his lunch breaks in the local pub, playing the arcade machine. Chris has spent thousands of pounds on home computers, and spends 20 to 40 hours a week programming them - sometimes right through the night. His latest project is a house design program - one that he expects to spend at least 6 months writing - but one that he does not envisage using himself.
Next, Julian speaks to Graham Hawker, who has developed an obsession with computer games, he is currently working his way through Adventure in Serenia. Graham finds the idea of pitting his wits against a perfect machine incredibly compelling.
Finally, Julia visits Hertfordshire sweet shop owner Phyllis Arrandale. Phyllis originally bought a computer to help out with her accounts, but was so impressed with it that she began programming software of her own. Now, she is attempting to make a printed circuit board, with the ultimate aim of making her own computer from scratch.
Clip taken from Newsnight originally broadcast on BBC Two, 19 January, 1983.
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A quick google reveals that Phyllis passed away in 2003, 20 years after this show. I hope those 20 years were filled with countless hours of joyful tinkering and hacking away at computers.
That's sad to hear. :-( I love her enthusiasm for computing, I remember that she also appeared in the first episode of The Computer Programme. czcams.com/video/jtMWEiCdsfc/video.htmlsi=vBRvDTDPGtYBlAGW&t=705
I'm glad she was able to find meaning in the hobby of electronics when she did. I can only imagine what she could accomplish in the modern era with made-to-order PCBs, Arduinos, etc.
@@cptnkrenonthanks for sharing the link!
Ah very sad to hear that. She is shown in an episode of The Computer Programme, still available on the BBC iPlayer. Well worth a watch.
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People staying at home with on their computers instead of having friends? That’ll never happen.
Can you imagine what those people would be like if it did happen?
They might be like ... people! People like you and me! 😮
It’s the same in the states, and even more isolated by the numbers.
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There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
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Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
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Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
you'll believe anything you see on trash tv
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"He puts in 20 - 40 hours a week at the keyboard" damn what an addict * sweats nervously *
He was PASSIONATE about computers not an addict! This is the very trait that companies like Google, etc., were founded.
I spend like 70-80 Hours at day on my computer.
@@chimpcurious3203 what is your secret? How do you live more than 24 hours a day?
@@dwithunbrahma9253 Im a being outside the space and time.
@@dwithunbrahma9253meth
Phyllis got a computer and saved herself 5 hours of paperwork per day. She then basically decided to learn coding and electrical engineering. Today we would celebrate her as a genius, curious and resourceful person. Back in the day computers were new, so she was simply described as an “addict”? It’s pretty interesting how we perceive new things as “addictive” and dangerous. We spend 8 hours in front of a computer every day, but we don’t call it an addiction, just “work”
it's about all of this explained at 1:30
Don't lump other people in the notion of
"we"
What you describe is a handful of people who want to control and dictate other peoples lives as much as possible
"20-40hrs a week day and night" LMAO RIP 2024 people, that sums up like 90% of us all now
Those are rookie numbers.
Average GTA player, tbh.
@@f4ckutube fr
@@f4ckutubeand then there are Rust players...
@@f4ckutubeyou can't get XP sleeping.
Graham always wore a suit and tie to play computer games - what a splendid chap!
I am crying with laughter reading your comment. Well done Graham.
@@ajs41 And standing while playing the adventure game........... good on you Graham!!
People generally dressed better back then.
"Why do people climb mountains" is a great argument whenever people ask dumb questions. Apparently, some pointless activities are great and build character while other pointless activities are just pointless. I don't enjoy art, but I can't go around saying that being a painter is pointless when I spend hours listening to music 🤷♂️
The good old days when computers were fresh and exciting. I admired Phyllis for embracing computers and spending hours learning it from stock control to being a hobbyist.
Modern version of this - messing around with LLM's on your nvidia GPU.
@@mornnb Good point. It's also like the dating game. GPU is supplicated, intelligent and flawless. Whereas, some people like personality and quirkiness.
@@mornnb Or AMD GPUs with AMD ROCm or Zluda ;)
There's always something new & fresh with computers and technology
People i speak to who were around then say they thought they were rubbish even back
Graham Hawker in the clip "...the computer's perfect it doesn't make mistakes it responds in an absolutely predictable way so in exploring anything that the computer's doing with you anything that happens that you didn't want to happen is purely your fault" - Graham has obviously not yet encountered any software written by Microsoft or Adobe...
Or cosmic rays flipping memory bits
Yeah that remark really captured how I fell out of love with computers after being totally obsessed for 30 years. They aren't predictable anymore. Working with them now is less like operating a machine, and more like trying to influence a person.
@@Xezlechonestly yeah agreed
@@Xezlec Yup. There's so much abstraction upon abstraction that tries to mimic human thinking that at some point it just becomes counterintuitive because not everyone thinks alike.
And to a degree he was conflating ‘perfect’ with ‘unbiased’ - the computer will only operate according to its programming…
…imperfections these days are the result of programmer bias.
Every day playing at a coin-operated "computer" at a pub at lunchtime and then in the evening, at home: abnormal, an addict.
Every day, having drinks at a pub at lunchtime and then after work, maybe again at home: completely normal, no addiction there at all.
What they were saying was that he works with them all day at work (even in his lunch break), then again in the evening and sometimes (often?) through the night. People rarely drink in the same way.
Normal's just what most people do.
It's when people object to conformity and go their own way that the "normal people" get startled with the thought that what they themselves are doing isn't normal anymore.
This is England, Alcoholism is a major part of their national identity.
Lots of business deals were stuck in pubs and many of the worlds problems solved
@@andywatts8654pretty certain London didn’t solve many world problems…cause them yes..solve no
It's amazing how corporations managed to use all the added efficiency and productivity that computers brought while still simultaneously crushing the souls of their employees.
that is on purpose
That's the classic Luddite fallacy, people change jobs but there aren't less jobs to be done.
Yep and now we see this with AI.
It's amazing how the employees let that happen. They just scrambled amongst themselves and never said anything to the corporate Masters because they're so weak and cowardly.
@@swingtag1041You think you can do better?
I was absolutely blown away by Phyllis. Especially as someone now who just orders a PCB from PCBWay. Amazing.
„I like computers.“
The 70s - „?“
The 80s - „That’s odd“
The 90s - „I’ll make you a millionaire.“
The 2000s „I’ll make you a billionaire.“
The 2010s „You’ll have a stable job“
The 2020s „I’ll replace you with AI!“
*The 2030s and beyond...I have become A.I. 😄👍*
2040 We will be at war with Skynet 😂
2030s - I'll program my own AI and lease it to your competitors. Check Mate.
@@Politely_Indifferent 2100 Humans lost the battle against machines
imagine "ai" become a subscription model and people start hiring staff again because it was cheaper
The story of Phyllis was surprisingly heartwarming. Seeing a lady and an older one at that interested in computers so much and right at the start of the home computer revolution was fantastic! I wasn't even alive when this report was made but I think I would have gotten on well with her and shared the same computer hobbies as her. I hope she finished building those computer parts and more.
It was refreshing to see and certainly destroys the old boomers of todays' way of thinking.
@@jamesherman3750Do you think she was the norm of her generation? Don't generalize entire generations part and parcel simply because there happen to be a lot of s***heads amongst them. Newsflash, that's true for every generation.
(btw, I'm a Millennial. I've known a wide range of people and personalities of all ages. Boomers included)
If not completing her goals, I bet she had so much fun pursuing them, and that is what counts.
She’s a legend. I really hate it when people say they’re too old to learn x or change their ways. Very refreshing and inspiring.
As a thirteen year old I look back and can't believe I was lucky enough to have had parents who could afford (if only barely) to support my habit. Thanks Mom and dad. I'm sure you sacrificed so I could never see sunlight.
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“As a thirteen year old I look back…” might be the most pompous opening I’ve ever read to anything
The scary thing is that those ‘83 middle age and old people have a more open mind and will to experiment out of their comfort zone than nowadays’ boomers. The old lady literally ran a shop, made her own program and made their own hardware, that’s sick.
It's what happens when everything is served to you on a silver platter...
Yep and it’s hear everyday from muppets, I did t grow up with computers like you. Hold on old boy. I did t get a computer until I was 18, my primary school had 1 computer for 250 students to use . My highschool had one computer lab of 15 computers for 1000 students. I didn’t get a phone until I was 20 . Your excuses don’t fly with me old man
My grandpa was her age and refused to have anything more than a landline up until his death and he was a wealthy man!
In the years between 1984 and 1998, they bought their first computer. Still can't get to Gmail by themselves.
@@unnamedchannel1237 didn't have my first computer until i was 18(dell inspiron 1545) and first phone when i was 13. LOL
Phyllis is amazing! 😊
Would have been an awesome granny. I didn't really had one. Still became a computer addict ..eh I mean enthusiast.
That Phyllis lady is awesome. No fear, she just dove right in and became a power user.👍
From the Herald Express 18/9/1982:
'BRAIN in a sweet shop'
THE 21st century has come
a little carly to Phyllis Arrandale's tiny sweet shop.
Tucked away in a room
behind a shop decked out with
jars of humbugs and cough
candies and adorned with
flowery chocolate boxes is a
microcomputer, which makes
her life so much simpler.
Phylis is one of many small
shopkeepers who are investing
in a computer to save time and
energy in dealing with their ac-
counts, stocks, and other paper-
work.
Now aged 66 and having had
the computer for three years,
Phyllis said: "So many people
in small shops and businesses
do not realise what a boon a
computer could be to them,"'
Phyllis spent more than
£3,000 on the computer and it
has solved many of her pro
blems.
She said: "I buy my goods
from 42 firms and before I got
the computer, the paperwork
was unbelievable, I was gelting
so far behnd with it as I could
not keep pace.
"i used to open the shop at
eight in the morning and close
at six in the evening. Every
night I had to deal with the
paperwork until I flopped into
bed exhausted.''
Phyllis learned how to pro-
gramme the computer to keep
details of her stocks of confec-
tionery and tobacco and if bills
had been paid.
She is now so adept with the
computer that three other firms
based near the sweet shop in
Hitchin, Hertfordshire, are us-
ing it to help work out their ac-
counts.
Phyllis believes that this is
the shape of things to come in
small shops and Businesses as
small computers are so useful
in cutting out time - wasting
paperwork.
This is especially true in the
case of her one - woman
business which has sales of
about £20,000 a year.
A spokesman for Informa-
tion Technology Year 1982,
said: "'Systems like these can
keep prices down and service is
considerably improved by en-
suring stocks do not run down
and a wider choice is available.
"In a competitive high street
it is as important for the small
stop to provide such benefits
as it is for the large retatl
outlet.
"Even very small businesses
can now afford microcom-
puters. Many weighing
machines and cash registers are
now available for the small
stopkeeper, processing tran-
sactions in a form that makes
keeping their books and con-
trolling their stock far easier,
"Inexpensive computers can
now cut down the hours of
paperwork
which is pro-
bably the most tedious chore
for one person businesses
and they also provide far better
information
on how the
business is doing.
Those days you dropped right into a terminal where you could start programming. Well, you had to start programming to make it do useful stuff, so you learned how it worked. We have a lot of computers and computing and software today but there's so much of it and so complex that it doesn't occur to most people that you too could make your own programs. Or change how your computer behaves. Of course you can't readily just reprogram much of what runs on most computers anyway so you have that working against you. You still get a lot of people that are like Phyllis of course but I'd like to see more.
The dawn of the home and office computers age - Kraftwerk had just released their "Computer World" album, which proved to be truly prophetic.
It amazes me how prophetic that album is in terms of its central theme (Computer World and Computer Love especially) and how influential it was in the evolution of electronic music, and yet it doesn't get the 100th of the mass recognition it should rightfully have in both aspects.
Incidentally, I thought Chris Carter's computer was similar to the one on the cover of the album, but Wikipedia states it's actually the Hazeltine 1500.
@@jeshkam I remember my mum's Amstrad PC - her first home computer and one I also used occasionally (as a word processor, mostly). There was an annoying tendency for documents to get lost between sessions or turn up in the wrong folder - it was long before the later easy-to-use, intuitive library interfaces that would arrive during the 1990s...
@@louise_rose Yes, using those 1980s old timers was definitely not an easy thing to do. 😉
I dont know what to do . I need a rendezvous
My late grandfather kept his mental faculties through his whole life, and I have no doubt that the time he invested on his computer helped that. First on a Commodore 64, then on a Macintosh. As a kid, the simple programs were like magic to me.
I mean they are. I still play around with my commodore and that thing impresses me to no end. Knowing that all of this is going on inside a tiny 8 bit processor that costs like 20 bucks is insane and then seeing how it scaled into my ryzen 5 on my gaming rig is miraculous. Its mental how much progress has been made.
I love the way Phyllis opened the box of electronic parts, it looked like she was opening a tasty box of chocolates. LOL.
I wonder about those pots and caps tho. Did she order a computer or a synth kit??? "Well luv, they're supposed to go BLEEP and BLOOP, aren't they?" 😆
For that matter, wonder if she ever finished that project.
@@NuGanjaTron
Maybe for manual control of cooling fan? :)
good man… You guys are watching this on uour phone because of man like this.
OMG...I'm seeing at least 25,000 lines in that BASIC program of his! And so many condensed one-liners! This dude was a God level BASIC programmer.
Maybe... but it was pretty common to skip up to some very large line number like 10000, if you suddenly needed a GOSUB. You might be writing code at line 250, but you wouldn't want to start a subroutine at 251 or 300, because you might need to go back and modify the code above the subroutine, causing it to grow
I programmed a debtors system in the early 90's. 32000 lines of Turbo Basic and 34 modules. I'm now coding a code editor amongst other large system apps.
Last thing I did with BASIC was an AOL IM bomber in the mid 90s. I sucked. To be fair I was 12.
@@mach5406 That's just what the world needs..yet another code editor.
@@jinxterx The difference is that my code editor is way different to any others I've seen or used, so no, not YET another. It's a completely new take.
The only obsession here was on the journalist trying to convince the interviewees that they were addicts.
I wasn't expecting the shop owner to be the computer geek at the end.
Not addicts, just people enthusiastically embracing change. The people calling them addicts should be a lesson to us all, don't get stuck in your old ways.
To be fair, they could be both...! But I agree with you 100%.
Literally everything there is changing. Nothing in this universe is unchanging and permanent.
The best thing we can do for our own happiness is to embrace change and see all change with equanimity. ❤
"Hello I am your typical dull 1980s British TV reporter. I am here to make anything that doesn't fit the standard 9-5 office job lifestyle sound silly and strange, so you keep doing your 9-5 office job. Now get down to the pub at lunch like normal people and drink some beer"
@@ncot_tech crazy how it changed decades after.
Not every instance of change in society is good. Change isn't necessarily good for its own sake. "Getting stuck in your old ways" can be following the scientific method, for example. Why would you want to change the fact that 2+2=4?
@@arvaneret_329 that makes no sense since everyone has learned 2+2=4
Man, I'm from Uruguay (south America) and even though *someone* had computers in 1983, it was mostly for the very well off and most people were definitely not thinking of implementing it in their own small business! Only big businesses did, I was born in '88 and my birth certificate isn't even digital (the original one), had to go through a process so it was digitalized and I could access it online!
I swear the English and many Americans were basically living in the future at that time.
I always wondered where Uruguay was.
7:42 "What they don't tell you is that you just might find your relationship with the machine more intense than you expected." If only they knew...
These documentaries are just outstanding, is like opening a door, looking through it and seeing the past. I also consider myself an enthusiast of computers not an addict despite of spending from 18 to 20 hours a day in one. I don´t really use my cellphone much and I don´t use social networks either. Thanks to these enthusiasts is why technology has progressed so much, thanks for their time! life well spent!
She'd have loved to work at Bletchley, perhaps she did...
This is very heartwarming. Glad YT recommended this. ❤
I'd love to know what these people are doing now.
the first google result for Phyllis Arrandale shows that she lived in Hitchin, Hartfordshire for the rest of her life and died in 2003. So presumably she'll have moved on to more modern systems later on, or lost her interest in programming.
Pushing up the daisies 😅
dead
I’ve slowly morphed into this guy. As a software engineer , nothing has changed ! 3 months of dev, doubt he does TDD.
What a joy to watch. Absolutely adorable and refreshing. Makes you appreciate these machines even more.
It's inspiring how articulate and respectable these lads where!
Phillys at the end there. Wow.
"Why do people climb mountains?"
He sums it up well.
At 5:26 I remember that lady was in an episode of The Computer Programme. Her little sweet shop was called The Chocolate Box.
EDIT
That episode can still be seen on the BBC iPlayer.
Since appearing in that show a year earlier I note that Phylis now has _two_ Commodore PETS! Business for her then must’ve been booming because PETS weren’t cheap and otherwise beyond the means of a sweet shop owner one would think.
She really progressed, what a star!
@@makara80 Under counter dealing perhaps? Her sweet shop just a front for organised drug gangs ?
@@makara80 I don't know anything about her business, but my guess would be she was not a person to spend her money on things like going out. And as this was her hobby, she probably spend some of her savings on that. You didn't exactly have to be loaded to own two computers in 1983.
I love how she wanted to multi-task... so just owns two Commodores :D
20 to 40 hours/week at the keyboard! Most developers only dream of a job where they could spend 20-40 hours/week at the keyboard instead of in meetings!
I am at a keyboard all day 😅
agile development my beloved
Hopefully this man is still alive.
He's alive and doing quite well! Went on to create a hit show in the 90s called "The X-Files!" 😊
@@orangejjayNo. That's another Chris Carter.
@@baardbino same one
Phillis would have loved Ben Eater’s CZcams channel.
Calling enthusiasts addicts distracts from the very real difficulties true addicts face.
Well said.
these people were genuine computer enthusiasts modern computers addicted are real, just looking for blasts of dopamine learning nothing im one of them
5:50 and onward is some ASMR Heaven. RIP her beautiful soul.
I remember many an all-nighter spent typing in long listings in BASIC or assembler to create even the simplest of outcomes. There were scores of magazines that consisted largely of BASIC program listings that offered games and a wide range of other applications. Unlike today, there was next to no compatibility between brands and models -- although they all shared the BASIC language, each one had radically different ways to create graphics and sound so a new machine meant learning things all over again if you wanted to program it for anything other than trivial purposes.
Yes I had a Sinclair QL and did just that. The sense of accomplishment was amazing
I still code in Basic. but I use Liberty Basic, which runs on windows, and i think, they also have Apple and Linux platform version as well. I started in H.S learning Apple basic on an II E, and have loved it ever since. I know there are other High level programming languages, but I am reluctant to learn them as Basic is what I am most proficient at.
Remember “Input” magazine? I was about 7 or 8 when the advert appeared on a TV commercial. I coudnt wait for it to appear at the newsagents 😵💫
Autism was largely undiagnosed in the 80s.
Things are certainly better today but mental health still doesn't get the attention and consideration it deserves. We're moving in a decent direction but have more to go!
But then again people weren't called "neeks" or bullied to the level of today for being smart
That’s not autism.
found the zoomer.
He doesn't strike me as autistic any more than the average engineer.
Despite the report talking about him as an "addict" he seems more like a normal hobbyist.
I admire this guy. 🎉
Phyllis, what a legend ❤
Well, count me into the In-Crowd! As an avid typist, I am so preoccupied with the microcomputer that not only I want to concentrate on aiming forward; I want to use my color laser printer and label printer, so that I may spend much time inside instead of outside. This show gives me additional appreciation to [modern] computer technology a lot more than I have imagined.
A Commodore PET! Ah, memories... also: 0:30 Mr Do! We had one of those in my first year at uni (1983, as it happens).
Technically not a PET. They were called Commodore CBM 3000 here in the UK because of Philips owning the PET trademark.
@@wasitacatisaw83 Are you sure? I know the name was different at some point, but I'm certain we had PETs at school and that's what they were called.
@@macronencer Yup. Everyone knows them as Commodore PETs these days, but at the time they came out in the UK, they were the CBM 3000.
@@wasitacatisaw83 Thanks. I just checked some photos on Wikipedia and I think the ones my school had were probably CBM 8000 with the proper keyboard. However, I know I've used an earlier one too with the toy keys. At some point I definitely used one that said PET on the front... but perhaps it was imported? I expect that must be what happened. It was at a facility owned by Bristol University IIRC. I suppose it could be a false memory! That can happen :)
The old Lady "Phillys" That Ran the Sweet shop LOL... Honestly Shocked me
I Thought she was going to be into PacMan if it was out then or some game like it.. I Defo did not think that Lady was Building PC's in the back of the shop
And not just been able to code but been able to build & Code,,, Super Impressive & At her Age to take such an interest .. I Hope she is still alive its what 40 years ago
If she is i Bet she has a Gaming PC , Water cooled With Lights & its see thru that she built her self of course lol.. Super Impressed by her!!
Highly doubt she’s still a then again she may only be in her 70s now LOL English women look elderly by their 30s
@@maxhatush5918 She died in 2003 , in her 70's
@@bardo0007 Awh No way!! She seemed Like the Nicest old Lady Ever I Truly Mean That!! , I say old Lady,,,
( Even tho i knew she was only in here 40's at the time , it was just the era & the how most women he age would have dressed, Its how my Grandmother used to dress, But she seemed So *Nice* )
She Really did tho.. She Seemed Really Kind & Someone who Cared for others,, Is the vibe i get from her "Phillys" She Reminds me of a shop i used to buy sweets at on my way to school ..lol I'm 37 was born in 1986 & I grew up in a Small Town , But every town & Village had shops like that .. Where it was a family thing for generations.. But Sadly,,
You never see shops like that any more,, Its all Asda , Gala , Centra Tesco etc ... Big Name brands ,Its Nothing like it used to be , & what i Really mean is ,, It was the Person more so than the Shop.. It was *Always* A really nice kind man or a Really nice woman in her 40's or 50's That Knew everyone
And *Not* in a Bad way , Yes she would hear everything but it was people going in for a pint of milk & Staying half an hour for the company ,, Everyone at the time even the early 90's where i lived it was
On a First name basis & I'm a pound short , James don't worry about it ill put you down in the book ,, Or I even remember been able to buy a single cigarette ( Been a bold boy lol )
Its sad that the Tesco's & Dealz forced them all out of business..
I *was Really hoping* She would still be alive, I Hope she has Kids & they get to see this .. The loss of a Loved one is So Hard & When a video or picture Pop's up out of the blue
It gives you a sad but then a Really Warm Feeling ( I Lost my baby brother in his 20's we were best friends & there is not a 4 to 5 Min Gap Every hour of every day i do not think of him, It was Covid before the Jab ) .. I Only say this because last week i seen a video of him by accident because there really hard to watch
But because it was out of the blue it gave me a really Warm & Happy feeling of there is my Brother & Best Friend.. Sorry went on a tangent there
Well thanks @bardo0007 for letting us all know & I *Truly* Hope she has Family that she this as she is so Happy here. & Even tho i never met the woman im Irish You can tell how Nice & Kind & Caring she was!
He Memory will never die thanks to the BBC.. Love this Channel
Phyllis Arrandale ❤️
I can relate with all of them 😭😭
2:13
Los números de línea (como 2300, 2400) y las instrucciones PRINT seguidas por cadenas de texto son característicos de BASIC. Además, se puede observar el uso de GOTO y RETURN, que son instrucciones de control de flujo típicas en BASIC, lo que refuerza la idea de que estamos viendo un programa escrito en este lenguaje.
BASIC era un lenguaje comúnmente implementado en sistemas como el IBM PC, Commodore 64, Apple II y otros, y era conocido por su accesibilidad para principiantes y su uso en educación y entre aficionados a la informática.
El comando READY. al final indica que la máquina ha terminado de ejecutar el programa o está lista para recibir más comandos, lo cual es típico del prompt en los intérpretes de BASIC.
That old lady doing hardware interfacing with the Commodore Pet computer is amazing! These folks PASSIONATE about computers not addicts! This is the very trait that companies like Google, etc., were founded.
1983 is the year I started, with my Commodore 64. I'm a software engineer to this day. I am doing what I wanted to do when I grew up.
Got my first PC at Radio Shack, a Tandy 1000 TL, a couple of years after this video was made. 8MHz, no hard drive, and was like lifting a cinder block. "Micro computer that just about fits in a spare bedroom," made me laugh pretty hard.
Just wanted to give a shout out to the TV show Halt and Catch Fire, can’t believe I missed it first time around. I suspect most people 40+ who lived through the early days of the internet will enjoy it.
Yeah loved that show!
Phyllis Arrandale is hero
Computers will never catch on
true, it was just a 80s and 90s fad
640kB of RAM is more than enough for anyone.
da heck are you talking about.
Bring back the abacus... all is forgiven 😂
I'm 34. I didn't have my first computer until my family got a hand me down in '98 or more likely '99.
I always had wanted one and my mom tried to convince my dad (we had the money) to invest in one for my sister and I.
Well into the 90s he insisted they were a fad.
I really wish I'd been introduced sooner but what can you do?
how was i happy when i start installing widows 3.1, so much floppy's , one day loosed/// so happy and than basic language secrets...programming... i still love computers , still busy most of the day with them, they are fantastic
Go Phyllis!
Love the way he says 'mornin'.
This man was the OG of OG hackers
Bought the BBC Model B when it first came out. Moved up to a BBC A3000 - then 2-slice RISC PC 600 upgraded to StrongArm (with a PC Co-Processor) SCSI Drive & TELETEXT Adapter :-)
this guy's lifestyle has aged like wine
He was really hellbent on proving computers were an "addiction" wasn't he? Silly man lol... Still, these brilliant people were able to share some interesting insights at the time into a growing culture in face of all that. I adore Phyllis!❤
I love Phyllis
Not relevant but gotta love a bit of Nudges unlimited by Barcrest, I’m having trouble identifying the first machine we see next to the one he’s on. Could anyone help?
I had a Bournemouth computer at the time. My mum had a Petticoat 5, which was designed for ladies.
I wanted a Bournemouth, but it was involved in the margarine riots.
Haha, I know this reference.
I don't know this reference 😢
@@MOSMASTERING Bletchley Park was where the first programmable valve computer was created during the second world war to break German Enigma codes. She'd be about the right age for working there.
@@MOSMASTERING Look around you!
These dudes were just innovators ahead of their time
*1:58** This girl is a genius....she's cracked it 😊👏*
always wondered what these guys would think if they saw even a touch of games today.
1:25
"spare bedroom".
Fast forward to 2023 and that is the entire apartment, minus w.c.
Like you don't take your phone into the bathroom...
Bro would have to be a millionaire to afford that luxury in 2024.
It was a wonderful time to be alive. 🤝
I wish we could learn more about how their lives continued after this. I wonder if the lady's electronics hobby evolved into significantly bigger projects.
Let's see these programs.
Phyllis was so inspiring. Here I am wondering if I can switch from network engineer to pursuing a degree in mathematics and thinking I'm too old to do it.
Is it worth getting one of these "computer" thingies?
Nah, everybody will just end up walking around glued to a screen, trust me...😅
@@jimsimpson1006 So don't put it in your pocket? I'm hearing angellic trilling... voices in my head saying... flip? Flip phone? Wonder what that could mean.
Is it worth it? I dunno, man. I hear on those things that people go woke and end up hating people less. Is that the world you want to be a part of? 😂
Only 7 seconds in and I cannot contain my excitement seeing a C64!
The CBM PET was even more exciting! I started using one at age 10.
I legitimately thought this was a comedy video, similar in tone to the 'Look Around You' series from BBC. Wasn't until I read through the comments that it confirmed it actually contained real computer enthusiasts of the time.
Oh paradise
Phyllis is awesome
Remember, if everyone is doing it, nobody is an addict. Computers today.
5:03 the software is perfect. but we have questions with the hardware designs of .. the machine.
"You might find your relationship with a machine more intense than you expected," yeah... fair point.
Wonder what happened to them now
They have multiple accounts where they troll on reddit with.
@@nataliep6385the old lady is the worse, she drops the hard r at a moments notice
@@danielktdoranie"That's just what we call them! I'm not racist! I don't see coloreds!" 😂
This one is calssic! Dude is my hero. This video is like never recorded Monty Python gag.
Most of the computers in this video are Commodores obviously because of the Commodore logos. Are they more specifically Commodore PET's? 0:22 and 5:45 are the parts I'm most curious about. Commodore CBM is on one but that's just short for Commodore Business Machines.
Yep, they are the PET machines. By 1983 those were already discontinued and deemed a relic since they weren't really expandable the same way an Apple // machine could be enhanced into. Plus, you had the 16 bit PCs out by then that was way better suited for business tasks.
Sounds like Phyllis, bless her soul, should have worked on the Post Office’s Horizon system instead of Fujitsu
I started off with computer art at high school in 1985 on a Commodore 64 and Apple 2e.
I wonder if the Post Office Horizon systems still use these ... ? 😊
Legend 😅
I wonder where they are now! Well I just read about Phyllis passing away in 2003, but the two others.
Jesus, Phyllis was unreal. Pity she wasnt around to see the real takeoff of home computing and the Internet in the mid to late 90s.
She was. Died 2003 though.
She’d probably have loved the onset of the worldwide web in the early 90’s and have had her own website, bless her
@@okee9 Guaranteed she had a Geocities web site.
She probably would have been one of those people like me who is annoyed that most 500 dollar phones from a DECADE ago had 1440p screens, and now 1080p is somehow accepted on thousand dollar phones as well as sub-100 dollar phones. Some tech peaked to such a degree that OEMs had to gaslight people into thinking that less was somehow more (and it worked somehow!!!). Real tech enthusiasts don't make excuses for downgrades in tech, and I get the vibe that she would be out there as part of the right to repair movement, trying to get companies to remember that durability and stability can be a premium feature.
@@awesomeferret People is stupid. That's why apple sell well, and tesla and any other stupid company.
phyllis is a sweetheart
Now they should do one about folks that arent addicted to screens.
Commodore 🥰
Sierra On-Line 🥰
Miss you.
Commodore PET and dual floppy drive was a serious purchase.
Is there a typo in the title? Im sure these sort of computers were not even there in 1983 (apples Macintosh came in 1984). The graphics on Grahams PC are CGA graphics and those were around in the early 90s.
We do it because it is the will of the force the drives us to make any decision.