Dan Flores - Coyote America: A Natural and Supernatural History
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- Lecture given for the Charles Redd Center for Western Studies at Brigham Young University
2018 William Howard and Hazel Butler Peters Lecture
22 February 2018
Dan Flores, A.B. Hammond Professor Emeritus, University of Montana
I love coyotes, their songs, their looks, their tenaciousness. I feel it’s magic to have a sighting.
You should go out and live with them. I'm sure they'll adopt you and it'll be like a Disney movie. 😂😂😂
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Dammit Rogan!
yeah Joe brought me here
Most excellent talk! Keep up this good work, I hope many folks will learn and respect this marvelous critter!
As a hunter, I can attest to the reason why the ancients have said they revered the coyote: they are so incredibly intelligent and clever. They are truly amazing animals. I have only seen two while hunting, and they are beautiful.
can come hang out here in the Dallas burbs if you wanna see em regularly
Makes me appreciate this amazing animal even more. The will power to live and thrive throughout adversary.
His name is Dan.
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That is true & exactly the reason in which I have been and will continue to prevail in my daily seek & thump... against the invasive forever hungry adversity which is generally referred to by my pals & I as... The Livestock & Pet Killing Super Predator... AKA-> Pasture Poodles
Intelligent
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It's refreshing to listen to a historical lecture from America that includes Natives naturally.
There are a number of sheep producers who have learned how to control coyote predation-one of them is an experienced hunter and he will allow no one -including himself to bother coyotes on the 1200 acres he grazes. He makes sure there is suitable habitat for rabbits and other small game on his land.
😂 there is so much wrong with that idea it’s not even funny. 70% of coyotes are transient and have no territory. Coyotes with a territory rarely defend it unless actively attacked. Nothing about that plan could ever work.
@chris ahsyeud coyotes for the most part don’t have a territory. In Ontario 70% of gps collared coyotes were transient the entire year. Of the remaining 30% most were transient for a large percentage of the year.
I shot 67 coyotes on 12,000 acres this year. 30 of them were shot on the same 400 acres. The idea that you can somehow isolate 1200 acres from transient coyotes is completely laughable at best. It’s just a false assumption.
@chris ahsyeud coyotes move through the landscape in exactly the same way water does. You’ll find coyotes everywhere but they all “flow” to certain spots. In that 12,000 acres I hunt there are spots that every single coyote in the township ends up at. A good coyote hunter knows those spots and goes there every day. It’s entirely possible to kill every coyote in the whole 12,000 acres in the exact same 5 acre bush because they all end up there.
We have a lady with 40 acres in that 12,000.. she honestly believes she doesn’t have a coyote problem because she doesn’t hunt them. The reality is that I’ve killed “her coyotes” a hundred times over over the years.
The way the author maintains a healthy population is by letting his neighbours kill all the coyotes around him.
Yup in rural west central NJ there were lots of them. They killed all my chickens.
Does he go out and sing to them too? 😂😂😂
Interesting lecture! Now if only BYU would invite someone to talk about the history of horses in the Americas 🐴
Coyote’s history is interesting, but you should check out the history of the Dingo in Australia to be absolutely bewildered.
Coyote America, good read. Make me want to get a degree in biology or maybe naturalist.
And a coyote hunter on the weekends...
Not English…
I know im a little late but excellent lecture! It was a pleasure to learn about the history of these animals.
On a side note, would love to know if you have a lecture/study on eastern coyote hybridization (coydogs) and how they're changing from the western coyote. The eastern coyote genetics are said to display DNA from dogs and wolves which is displaying itself phenotypically. Thank you.
Yeah. Write another book for this d bag
The ignorant things we've done and continue to do... shameful behavior!
Seems like we went through a period of lets shoot everything. I don’t get it. Bison were almost wiped out.
I listened to Dan on Meateater's podcast, episode 69. A very interesting man to listen to, and very well articulated. Thanks for the upload.
Very well articulated
I grew up shooting coyotes because it was our duty. Boredom challenged our manhood and it left us no choice but to drink beer and kill stuff. Break our trucks, get DUIs and run off every good women who ever came by.
It's been twenty years, now I love listening to them at night. I don't know what we were thinking.
Thank for sharing this. I had a friend who told me when he was young in North Carolina in the mountains, he had a journal and he would go into the woods when he was bored and kill things, anything, and write it in his journal. As an adult he was aghast. He was looking for a way to put it a play. And also I wrote a novel and in my research came across an article put in a New York paper saying; Our boys are bored, time to create an Indian war to keep them occupied. So sad. I wish for our young people to learn the magic of the land. And I learned the President of Rwanda turned the country around after the genocide by teaching folks to care for wildlife. We have such wonderful work ahead if we can just get a way to organize to do it.
Excellent speaker.
Amazing talk about an amazing animal. Thank you sir.
Oh yeah, "amazing'". Imagine the fun and excitement that I had watching my dog and a prize heifer trying to deliver her first calf get mutilated.
Wonderful tribute to the most mystical and magical animal on the planet. Coyotes aren't inherently good nor are they bad, they are just coyotes.
Wonderful presentation!! Dan that was the best I’ve ever heard about Coyotes. I wish others would hear this (hunters and farmers of the south east) and understand you simply can’t eradicate them. In doing so you kill everything else while the Coyote flourishes and lives on. Wonderfully spoken!
I Remember Thomas Seton-Thompson's story, I read that when I was a Child! I Think it was in Botkin's Treasury of American Folklore! I still have that book, in fact I have 4 of Botkin's Folklore Books! I am from Gholson, Texas.
Fascinating ✨Thank you
Coyote America is one of my favorite books.
Excellent lecture on a fascinating subject, well delivered. Makes you think more deeply how our evolving social memes have the ability to destroy or save the natural world and ourselves as well. Thank you
"A wolf staring at a grizzly have lunch as 2 coyotes and 11 crows look on"
-the 10,000 year old Mississippian culture had a coyote dog among them and ouachita coushatta tribes had a Louisiana Red Wolf that is widely believed to have interbred with Hernando de Sotos dogs the Spanish brought with them.
That dog which interbred with the Louisiana red wolf evolved into the Louisiana Catahoula breed we have today.
Colored are amazing. Had several in my neighborhood. They would see me every morning out walking inn the dark. They lost their fear of me and socialized a bit. Wonderful.
That's kinda racist, huh???
Why don't you just say African American instead of Colored???
Lol
Excellent thank you
That was great.
Thank you 😊
Awesome, just awesome
If I recall correctly the coyote was considered to be a trickster by indigenous Americans.
Wow. So inciteful
Dr. Flores, I was captivated by your talk.......you kidnapped me so I had to watch it twice. I had absolutely NO IDEA whatsoever that the reason I had lost two deer, i had shot, to coyotes filling in their ecological role. They really don't target deer fawns so much. I have trapped them as well and they are still increasing in numbers. That about about Thallium Sulfate was eye opening as well. Why cannot wolves expand their range under the Fission/Fusion strategy? Thank you so much for this very informative talk.-Paul
i'm not a scientist, not by a long shot, and i have very little knowledge in this area but i have a hypothesis. compared to wolves maybe coyotes' smaller size give them more adapatability, more options in terms of both diet and places to hide? i would imagine wolves find it more difficult to live off rats and garbage when those are the only options, not to mention using things like drainage ducts, sewers, and irrigation canals to move into new rural and urban territory. as far as fission/fusion, i would speculate it has more to do with behavioral versatility, physiological traits/requirements, and gestation patterns unique to coyotes, but again, i'm no expert.
He kidnapped u?
@@thewinchesterhysterymouse you might not be an expert...
But, you're a darn sure smart individual whom is absolutely correct in the speculatory statement you typed about the pasture poodles...
I know ALOT about them and hunt them HARD in order to keep their numbers hopefully in the same or better shape in which their #'s are now... near zero in my local smallish pretty much rural farming community...
108 in 36 months ALL thumped within a mere 2.5 miles of my hacienda in Nawth Jawjuh.
They were a very MAJOR problem with killing people's household pets/ farm livestock here...
So, I had hunted and thumped coyotes in the past whil'st hunting other types of wild game type animals for the additional variety of meats they provided as well as pelts which I tanned and gifted or sold to help pay for everday life expenses...
So there I was... just minding my own business... just loving & living my family life out here in the country when I was just hurtfully one per day or every other day with a few gaps in the time period, for about roughly a month I was greedily robbed of all... each and every single one of my egg layers... so very helpful w/ those buzzing, ever always just biting me over the entire body... so very terribly bloody bothersome, always such a problem... yeah, my awesome lil' ol' insect controlling feather covered big crowing black colored buddies... my big, ol' huge bodied Black Jersey Giants (* they are the world's very largest growing heaviest breed of Chicken in the world... that I very purposefully had chosen JUST for that fact... so I'd to be sure that I was giving it my best attempt for a keeping a near predator attack free type of yard bird... simply because of their extreme large body size... uhhhmmm, that didn't work...)
@@zekethefishgeek8690 That's the cycle of life...your chickens taking the lives of the insects, predators take a chicken. Add an A-hole human to the mix who can't help to take it personally and you get a load of self-centered, ignorant comments on CZcams..and then the cycle starts all over again. I guess it's ok when YOU take a chicken's life, but when something else does it's a crime, right? GFYS.
D bag
in the burbs of Chicago i got hearded for 2 blocks by a Coyote after i called out to it around 6am... i was riding my bicycle and saw the Coyote rummaging in a front yard... the area is highly developed with houses and a busy 4 lane road but the local public pool has a large grass area next to it and the Coyote likes this area for the lack of cars... i have seen them running in the strip mall parking lot around sunrise...
Coyotes are getting more brazen...
I had a pack stalk me and my dogs
Up a mountain and a big hybrid
Was trying to trick my rottweiler
Into chasing him to the waiting pack. At the top.....I was surrounded by coyotes on all sides
Some yipping in a playful way to
Draw out my dog. My bloodhound was on a leash, my rottweiler was
Loose and thankfully he listened to
Me. There were at least a dozen
And they would have eaten him.
Yes, they would have and will eventually eat him IF your pet isn't kept safe.
I find moments like that very humbling, let’s you know who’s land your on, and not vice versa
@jaydansmith7585" I ride an old paint horse, I'm the guy who's boss on the 160 acres that I love. "
@johnbookersfullspectrum this is my farm and, (you may call me an asshole)my dogs are family. I have never wanted or needed a man killer, until the night when they cleared a seven foot fence. I spent countless hours with him. He was a winner, but he was shredded. Thanks to your damned coyotes.
Brazen? We are the brazen ones. I heard of a town in the Midwest that puts out all of its food scraps at night and around 4:00 Am the coyotes come through the town and eat. And in this way the town has no garbage. And i'm sure they know to keep their dogs in. We need to learn better ways of co-existing.
survivors. in the face of every attempt at extermination. the perfect adaptive attributes. one of my faves. being tricky it turns out, is a good thing.
Surprised the coyotes natural predator the road runner was not discussed.
So clever
@@doctorcrafts it ain't much but it's honest work.
"WE , WE, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, etc" Not me, I wasn't here and didn't do nuff'in.
Interesting relationship with Jackals. Egyptian God Anubis is depicted as human with the head of a jackal. Some scientists speculate the original head of the Sphinx was a jackal. So there's a long history in many places of coyotes & Jackals as human avatars. 🤔
Seen one walking down the road next to me in town 🤷🏻♂️
The Extermination Laboratory, sounds like a sample from Ward Churchill's "A Little Matter of Genocide!" These Federal Authorities had the same solution for Grandmother's People, and Great Grandfather's Over the Hill Tribes, also.
,My Grandmother was a Worker for the The Oklahoma Federal Writers' Project collected Oklahoma folklore, and told me stories about Coyote in the Osage "Little Wolf" in 1952 I was a Tiny Child and went missing one day, I was looking for 'Coyote" I heard singing at night.
Scholars have researched many American Indian oral traditions in Oklahoma, producing works on Cherokee, Kiowa, and other Native groups. Less work has been done on the other ethnicities. In the 1920s The Chronicles of Oklahoma printed articles on some Oklahoma legends. In the mid-1930s Benjamin Botkin published his Folk-Say series, which produced a few studies on Oklahoma tales. The Oklahoma Federal Writers' Project collected Oklahoma folklore, using a portion of it in Oklahoma: A Guide to the Sooner State (1941). Several writers produced work on oil-field culture, including Mody Boatwright, J. Frank Dobie, Dan Garrison, and Bob Duncan. The Ozark region, which includes some of eastern Oklahoma, has received analysis, with several publications on its folklife. The cowboy culture has also been dissected, with John Lomax and later Guy Logsdon collecting ballads.
Smart,adaptable,survivor. Just like humans
crossed bridge onto cape cod
They sure did and now they’re all over the Cape. When they howl near my house at night, I bring my dogs in… 2 large shepherds would tear coyote up, if it got over my fence.
The genocide of these animals has to stop...
It's jus benefitting the coyotes 😂
There was something that whiped the coyotes out in someplaces. We know, where the sibirian tiger exist, there exist no wolves, its a xor relation. The big cat of the north is the mountain lion. Give the mountain lion and the Jaguar its old range and you will see a reduction of the range of the coyote to its old form.
Is that dude sleeping
Joe Rogan sent me here.
Dr. Crocko's Spooky Sunday > Dog People > Rogan > Here
26:59
Yes, they have a touch of shen about them, akin to fox.
The wild turkey should be America’s national bird. It’s much more honorable.
I never want coyotes to go away. I'm a trapper. You can maintain them for sure. But they will maintain themselves sorta.
Trapping is evil. It is said the animals are going extinct because they do not want to be here. So they are all dying out as is nature. All the trees are sick as are We The People.
Long live the coyote
North American Mini-Wolves !!!
Rogan
If #weavethecoyote is any indication, a few short generations from now, may well see them firmly on the path of domestication. Ive owned a hybrid, I'd live with a full blood, once my kids are bigger.
I think Russians were able to breed a more gentle fox in just a few generations- I’m betting this could happen with coyotes- I’ve had some tame ones that live in our area walk up super close- not rabid just calm and curious- they’re not. Early as big as my German shepherds but they’re very bright and inquisitive. I wish people would stop putting out rat/ mouse poison- coyotes eat the poisoned mice and that weakens their immune system and they end up getting mange.
What did he say? Coyotes in native American art are usually pictured standing!? And with opposable thumbs? I guess they also do a lot of business with the Acme Company prdering roadrunner traps!
Pure B.S. about having no effect on mule deer.
Yup- I’m enraged hearing this. People F’ing suck
Coyotes, are God’s own Dogs. Man has certainly giving them a terrible reputation. For it is written even the tender mercies of the wicked are cruelty. Hopefully more will get involved and learn.
Hopefully some of these folks graduate and go on to work for DNR so they can implement better policies
Yeah. Such an important comment. Der
@@doctorcrafts
DNR is the department of natural resources
Guy sleeping in the front row
Thank you I admire them most, the Cyoat. As a kid we'ed just stare at each other when we meet. .They did more to alienate me to man then war.
Than
How many of your dogs have you seen torn apart by coyotes?
Joe Rogan sent me
!0 year ago or so I live in the top of the hills ( Coyote's crossing place ) I have dream or nightmare around 8 am I wont go to tales- or story of it I wake up my land lord was looking for his chihuahua dog I wake up run not knowing were I found a little coyote try to get his meal my instinct Not hurt just make a noise like them I did it in front of me was the Coyote and this ego dog chihuahua ready to give up scream , the coyote with dignity walk away
If I die i will like to in the hands of Nature Not in the hands of stupid-brains wash human .
I sure enjoyed this, I am watching it five years later. At this time there is a bunch of news articles about how "AI" is going to kill off humanity. And I have been wondering why experts would think this way. But now I see, because that is what humans would do, reasoning something wrong and killing because of it. But this also gives me additional confidence that AI killing off the human race is probably about like people killing coyotes, you can try, but there are going to be survivors, and they will learn from the experience and adapt.
Wow. You’re special
@@doctorcrafts are you teasing me?
We don’t need to be totally killed off- just reduce our numbers
@@thefutureisnow8159 yes, and we can hope the survivors will be the fittest.
The Coyote is the Dollar General of the animal kingdom.
You’re the Mongolian of the mongoloids
One hour in and I am hoping he mentions Wile E. Coyote. .
Genius
Most fun creatures I've found to hunt
Doosh
@@doctorcraftsif you’re ever in Arizona come by for a skull or a fur
Those coyote furs are valuable...what a waste...
God bless the coyote and it’s call.
It is? Its. Possessive =its
I do "respect'' and love the coyote, they have a place in life. The history of them and respect that the natives gave is deep and true.
Found it hilarious when speaking at BYU, most these kids understand the destruction the coyote has done to livestock and farms, his little digs about America, they walked out... NOW again I do respect the coyote, Why? One of my best friends had his child taken by a coyote in his backyard and mauled- Not funny. She was flown out by helicopter. Adult was there within feet...They are no joke. This man speaks truth but does have a forked tongue... Be careful. His words are dangerous. You can almost tell when the acid drops.
Leave through the back door. How disrespectful to go to the door behind the speaker to leave. Lame. No manners. Gee whiz.
Not an impressive audience. I'm not that hard to impress.
I thought the same thing. If that's the only exit and entrance screw the people who set up the podium by that door.
I wholeheartedly agree!
Bunch of nonsence
You obviously have good points, but your selective bias paints you as a poor researcher, and and unethical writer. You lose all credibility when you are not honest with your audience.
its best to back up your assertion with facts, you lose all credibility when you are not honest.
the "supernatural " is simply human imagination gone bad.