Undertale Yellow - NEUTRAL ENDING
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- čas přidán 12. 12. 2023
- The Neutral Ending of Undertale Yellow has one of the coolest bosses I've ever seen!
Not a full playthrough video this time, since not that much is very different from my Pacifist playthrough, but I definitely wanted to share my reaction to this crazy ending with you all!
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GAME - gamejolt.com/games/UndertaleY...
Please play it.
Music -
Undertale Yellow OST by MasterSwordRemix
Based on: Undertale & Deltarune OST by Toby Fox / Materia Collective
TWITTER - / shayy_tv
TWITCH - / shayy
DISCORD - / discord - Hry
I think I enjoy voice acting Flowey just a little bit.
I enjoy it when you voice act flowey too
If the Genocide Flowey monologue wasn’t proof enough, my god.
i wnna see it happen more bc liek omigosh itz like . SO good
wow i couldn’t tell
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Flowey really said "L + Ratio + No Determination + Dead Bird + Skill Issue + I Own You", huh?
Flowey does that everytime, don't be silly
She does this daily
@@Maniaceraser he, its asriel, ya know that?
@@ELIXFUDIDOits a plant
@@roxas5071 its a dead goat
Funnily enough, if you get the neutral ending twice his ending speech is different. He starts to get self conscious and worried that you can remember, and are playing him. Talks about how he notices that with each run you get better at moving through the Underground, like you have the whole thing memorized. Such a cool ending
Woah do you have the dialogue for this? I am not going through another neutral run lol
@@PhilAndMind I know Neutral isn't too bad, I just... don't want to play the game 4 times within less than a week. xD (I'm doing Pacifist again to close things off, my third and final run.) I don't have the heart to kill many monsters anyways, so I barely got any extra HP.
@@Violet111
2nd run:
Hey.
Come on!
Idiot!
.....
Here we are again.
Wasn't as terrifying or flashy as it was the first time, huh?
Cut me some slack! My imagination is only so vast!
Forget it. I might as well be talking to a wall.
You don't retain your memory after resets.
That's why I have to explain the same things every time.
Place the same savepoints, make the same comments...
"Golly, this place sure is ____!"
"Keep up the good work, buddy!"
"Remember your mission!"
Over and over and over and over...
But I notice things each run.
You solve puzzles faster.
You defeat monsters faster.
You navigate the Underground like you have a map.
All that, yet I know your memory is wiped clean.
I can't explain it...
...
Maybe at some point it will all culminate.
You will finally lead me to what I need.
Until then, I'll reset.
And reset and reset and reset and reset and reset and reset and reset and
3rd run:
Hey.
Come on!
Please!
.....
What is this?
Why do we keep ending up here?
Every time you make certain choices, it's the rooftop.
Martlet always convinces you to go with her.
Am I supposed to just... let that happen?
No... I've seen you surrender and adapt before.
It doesn't lead anywhere.
So, what? Is this it? Is this the way it has to be?
When I first steered you into the Dark Ruins...
I could've sworn I was onto something.
But it feels like your life - your fate - is locked in.
As if there's a specific way it MUST play out.
If that's true... what does that fate lead to? Ultimately?
...Maybe you're not the one I need?
Maybe you're only a stepping stone? A... precursor.
"They come. They leave. They die."
That's what she always said.
...
There will be another.
And this "helpful" act... It's not working.
I need to embrace who I really am as soon as I'm rid of you.
For now, however, I have to keep it up.
I know what it's like to be at rock bottom without hope.
This... while incredibly frustrating...
This act has gotten me the closest I've ever been to my goal.
It's the first time I've felt like I've made true progress.
Sure I could try rigging a new puzzle...
Drag you into another alternate path...
But even I don't have the patience for that.
I know deep down that my plan WILL work out.
What I don't know is whether that plan involves you in the end.
...Alive, that is.
But I've blabbered on enough.
It's time for me to fake a smile through another excruciating journey.
Don't mess it up again.
4th run:
Hey.
Uh-huh
I really hate you, you know that?
.....
Great.
Heh.
Talk about a "dead end."
...
That's not funny.
None of this is.
I shouldn't be here. Not again.
I mean, come on...
Don't I have anything better to do?
If your fun value is over 70 during your 4th fight, then he says this instead:
...
Come on!
...
.....
. . . . .
... You know? It's strange.
Something's off here.
We're alone in my mind right now.
It's clear that we're alone, right?
Then why I can't shake it...
Only since you showed up has it been this way.
...
I have to reset again.
I have to reset until I find the right path.
Until you make the right choices.
Until it...
@Reset2150676
Wow, that's so cool. Thank you for sharing.
@@Reset2150676 Thank you for this comment
I like how it gives the impression that he is weaker than Omega Flowey, with less projectiles on screen, because he has less souls, but still just as hard and creepy
He’s weaker than his omega variant, but still stronger than Clover. Although He doesn’t have any human souls yet, Clover doesn’t have Determination
@@masterpiece8846Pretty sure all human souls have determination. (This is canon to undertale.)
Clover has it, just less than Flowey. (That is what the game is sort of implying, I think.)
@@TheVillainousSoul yeah, determination is a physical property of all human souls, like how monster souls are made entirely of magic.
@@TheVillainousSoulyeah, all humans have determination, but the being with the most of it (in this case Flowey since he has pure determination inside of him) can control the timeline, spoilers for genocide, but for example, after killing Martlet Flowey no longer has access to the save files since Clover is too determined to complete their goal
@@Roman-ik3cfI don't think it's determination in Geno. Clover's sense of Justice overpowers Flowey's determination. I think that's what happened because the save point didn't mention anything about determination but did say something about "it fills you with justice" or smth along those lines
Such a bizarre fight for sure. Vanilla Undertale may have been scary, but it was for more of the shock value than anything. THIS however feels like it went out of its way to mess with you. That stare at the audience was unbelievably menacing.
I agree and this is probably one of the best Undertale fan games I’ve ever played
That stare at the audience well and properly disturbed me.
Fr, it’s oddly my favorite “ending”/fight because it does put into perspective how strong determination is, this was from a time FLOWEY was in absolute control, it was HIS world to manipulate before Frisk fell into the underground.
You need to voice act this in some capacity. This boss fight is amazing!
This is such a good boss fight. Loved and feared all of the different phases
Fun Fact: On my first playthrough of Yellow, I didn't know how to spare Microfroggit so I killed him by using stomp
For the entire rest of the run I thought I was playing pacifist bc nothing felt like it changed to me. How wrong I was. Ended up fighting this freak of nature.
LMAO
No way 💀
rip bozo
That must have been jarring as fuck 💀
Does microfroggit not give EXP?
Undertale Yellow devs casually saving their most insane, creative boss fight for the neutral route instead of pacifist or geno
Really, this fight shows that those 7 years of development got put to good use
Neutral is so underrated and deserves better, I bet they liked the idea of even the smallest changes making big impacts which is why EVERYTHING you do for neutral run is accounted for in this fight, killed an enemy? they show up as an attack, aborted your run then continued it later? Intro dialoug changed, never saved? Different text, everything.
@@taraktaras7327Flowey really made me feel it with killed opponents showing up in his fight. My Neutral run was me killing every opponent I encountered (unless I backtracked) while making my way to the final boss.
Really enforcing "you reap what you sow"
If I do another run I'm probably just gonna step on a micro froggit or something and see where that goes
@@Doobie-kx8fk Geno spoilers
You can even make Ceroba show up if you abort genocide after killing her.
I mean, it’s the same way in base UT. The difference is you’re forced into it your first run.
Sadly, El Balador doesn't attack.
Was crazy seeing dalv and starlo tho
It's like a dark, fucked up version of flowey haha. Just a glimpse into his dark reality. A full stare into his twisted perspective would make most simply go insane lmao
#Evil #Destroyr #Manipulation😈😈😈😈
This is probably one of the few times this copypasta could actually apply to a character
I think it applies even more since your body straight up doesn't exist. Like in most depictions of Undertale fights, the soul is outside of the player character, and I assume they control the soul telepathic-like. However this time, you are literally inside of Flowey's mind, taking the perspective of the soul that has been shaped into their former vessel. (I don't know how to explain it but I feel like the soul / body relationship is a weird mixture of real world brains and hypothetical souls / ghosts)
Since you are the soul with the memories, and presumably consciousness, you *really* want to scream or cry because it's hard wired into you after YEARS of having necessary parts to achieve those goals, but your soul lacks those parts. Even if it did, Flowey would probably rewind time every time you try, with your memories of the failed attempt being intact since again, you are a part of him now.
TL;DR - This is a worse fate than hell itself.
The fact you have a Lalo pfp makes this comment funnier for some reason
@@user-om2kq9wr9d IS THAT A SOG
Fun fact:- If you abort genocide route in steamworks, Flowey will use ceroba's attacks too
Flowey will use the attacks of deceases enemies, any deceased one
@@sophrosynes6392 Nah, only bosses and minibosses you've killed. Doesn't count regular enemies.
Actually he only uses the attack of bosses you killed, it does not have to be a aborted genocide
@@Alansong09 but you can only fight ceroba in a genocide or aborted genocide one since in pacifist you cant fight flowey
It’s depressing that martlet thinks you betrayed her when she dies, literally adding insult to injury.
Also I find it funny that it’s impossible to kill martlet, as she runs away when her hp gets to low. Yet the pacifist endings are the only ones she survives in.
17:16
Pacifist: Ceroba's Memories
Genocide: Martlet's Memories
Neutral: Flowey's Memories
Every route always has at least one sequence where you go through the memories of the person you're fighting against. That's clever...
that's clover...
@@thej_real2137it’s clover
Each time you see someone's memories they are not telling you them, you see them yourself. Clover has an ability to read other's memories.
then there's Flowey since the fight took place entirely inside his head Clover just wander far enough to see -Asriel- his memories perhaps flowey want clover to witness them who know?
@@darkdragonpl9229nah its just undertale logic
I just noticed he only uses plant and cowboy based attacks because he only has your soul, awesome attention to detail.
I love how this run is scarier than the Genocide run, and you only have to kill one person :)
SPOILER
If you decide not to spare Ceroba at the end of a pacifist run, you do not get this neutral ending but get to Asgore instead. Giving up on their principals of justice, Clover just gives up. Not gonna spoil any further but probably it's the most disappointing ending even though it's quite fitting.
@@michaelvanhout7614 spoiler
i feel like they just give up cuz yes, just like when you do spare her
@@lemons38once you break her mask
I got this ending by only stomping a micro froggit lol.
@@mygodseiyour soul has become corrupt the very moment it happened
Playing Undertale Yellow feels like playing undertale for the first time again. It's a masterpiece.
I'm just going to consider it canon at this point
@@ConsumePaydayContentIf you want to avoid spoiles you could have just uhm you know not click on any of the videos that had them or just stay away from youtube until you are done with the game
In short thats more on you then on them
@@ConsumePaydayContent your drunk go back to sleep
@@ConsumePaydayContent uhm no i Was just joking i apologize if it came out offensive
@@krabbecorkornso now you're joking with me? Trying to make me laugh? You have no effect
this is the single most creative boss fight in the game and i absolutely adore it
all of the artists deserve massive props for all of the spritework in this fight!
and also the easiest (in my opinion)
@@ghostslord-23 that is just fact, Flowey feels actually FAIR while still being somewhat difficult.
the music artist also need a shoutout, the breakcore music here goes hard
Yeah, omg. This is one of the times that Yellow out-does the OG, imo.
i feel bad for the artists because they had to make 6 different flowey phases that appear for less then a minute@@MemesSSChara
You wouldn’t expect the neutral route to be the best ending in the game, but here we are.
This is such a unique and interesting fight and isn’t too difficult either (while still being a good challenge at the same time)
@@wolfgalaxy9086 In my first run I thought of killing Dalv or just bosses to see the dialoug thinking that it was like in undertale.
Hm, I would argue True Pacifist is much more rewarding, but this ending might be the most interesting
Neutral: most interesting
Pacifist: most rewarding
Geno: most epic
While it's more rewarding from a gameplay standpoint, TP definitely has the greatest payoff in terms of characters though
@@great_hedgehog8199yeah neutral is more rewarding from a gameplay standpoint, but from a writing and character standpoint TP is much better
At first I was thinking "how is flowey with one soul just as if not stronger than flowey with seven souls???" Then I remembered clover is technically kinda dead, and then he dropped that it was all in his mind
Also Chara/Frisk duo Is damn overpowered
I accidentally got the neutral ending after messing up at the last possible part for geno. I was pissed initially but then actually really enjoyed the neutral ending
Also fun fact about this as well is that Flowey even does some of the geno only attacks which is super neat
@@kreatona4219like what? Just out of curiosity
@@siijon0353 Ceroba's flower petal one that entraps you and then turns into a wave of either blue or orange (if that made sense)
Funnily enough tho, with the route I took Axis used the trashcan lid shield for himself which resulted in the different attack pattern, but Flowey used the normal Axis pattern instead (also Axis gets unique humorous dialogue for the failed geno route, where he just ends up getting tired which let's you beat him)
@@kreatona4219 oh yeah, I do love how detailed this fangame is! I would try to go for the most neutral out (geno till the last possible point) but i’d hate to fight Ceroba again (my most hated fight because I heavily dislike taking away max hp just to make it more artificially difficult)
I love both phases of this fight; phase 1's attacks look like stuff you'd see in black space, and phase 2 is just uncanny and disturbing the whole way through. my favorite of the final bosses
Imo the second phase is kinda unnecessary imo. The first one is more disturbing, and the second one is sorta just omega flowey but better. I like it a lot, don't get me wrong here. Maybe it is because the music doesn't fit? The artwork and designs are masterful,
though. Nm, I guess the second phase is disturbing in a less subtle way?
@daniellejackson6543 H
Huh??? Both phases are amazing what you mean the music don't fit? What are you tryna say here dawg? 🤔🤔🤔
@@daniellejackson6543 Eh I get what you mean but it's trademark for all three true endings (true neutral, genocide and pacifist) to have a fase with dashes and the yellow soul type.
And the music is on point IMO and what did you want out of second phase flowey? You can only really do so much with a flowey boss without a soul and I think they settled for something incredible.
The developers really said "hey, what if we made omega-flowey 10 times cooler"
First off, HOLY FUCK.
This is INCREDIBLE.
Second, its absolutely genius to make the neutral ending like this.
Since most people who play this fangame will have already played undertale, they will already be going for pacifist and genocide.
So giving neutral something THIS amazing to encourage people to both encourage people to play it, AND give neutral something interesting compared to the other two routes, is genius.
Most importantly, it gives Flowey the spotlight he deserves, with his manipulation going full throttle starting from the switch.
He's ALWAYS in control here ever since the start (except Geno but Geno seems like a worst case scenario in favour of Clover and is highly implausible)
this is why im so glad i stayed off one specific path. actually did what i felt like and got a cool af reward.
For both regular undertale and undertale yellow, I killed the monsters who made me the angriest. Sir Slither and Axis can go die in a hole. (Only enemies I died more than once to)
I DIDN’T EXPECT YOU TO ACTUALLY POST THE NEUTRAL ROUTE/ENDING TO CZcams THIS IS AMAZING AND YOU ARE AMAZING SHAYY HAVE THE BEST HOLIDAY SEASON OF YOUR LIFE
I agree with this statement
I too would like to profess my fondness for that particular statement
Undertale Flowey: disturbing
UT Yellow Flowey: sleep paralysis demon
essay comment warning, i'm just very passionate about this
this is without a doubt the best fan game undertale has ever seen. i've seen all three videos now and each ending is absolutely incredible. this is also the first time i have ever seen undertale presented with a psychological horror genre. i'm sure there are some other ones out there, but this one completely sells the effect on an entirely new level. one very good way to cause disturbance to the player is to throw them into a style unseen anywhere else in the game, and this fight does that perfectly
this route imagines flowey the way i think he was intended to be in the original game, except to a much more extreme level. with his ability to bend reality and his twisted ideals, he was very much capable of much more than the omega flowey we see in undertale. this whole battle sequence captures the essence of his character and the effects he has on the player better than i think anyone could have. so much effort was put into each of the endings, but this one stands out to me so much. paying attention to the style changes and animations helped me really appreciate the artwork done for and the passion and creativity put into the game
i am actually so happy that we finally get to see this kind of intense representation of a character in an undertale fan game, and like i said, flowey is just perfect for it. again, maybe it was done elsewhere before, but i doubt to this level of quality. undertale fan games are usually too bound by the pixel art aesthetic that we never get to see anything close to this. absolutely insane experience and i really wanna watch it again now
i hope toby fox is very proud of his fan base
Thanks to this fangame I realized how much I liked Flowey as a character in Undertale, and in UT Yellow I got even more attached to him! I just finished the neutral ending a few minutes ago after doing pacifist and genocide, and it's definitely my favorite ending. It was so intense, it was a perfect ending for Flowey. I loved every second of it.
i saw the warning and still couldn't read allat (jk)
"Can't believe they put breakcore in Undertale!"
Should we tell him?
Man, the Flowey fight in the Neutral route was the coolest one in the whole game for me! It was a mix of cool, surreal, and terrifying, and the battle music and art styles are awesome!
It's a perfect way to show Flowey's true self: maniacal, heartless, and deceiving.
I love it how flowey litterally absorbs you so he can turn your reality into a psychotic schizophrenic demon monster and gives you the most banger bossfight and theme, only to end with “make better decisions dipshit ;)”
edit: ty for 500 likes, its getting close to valentines day, so if your watching this close to or on valentines day, Happy valentines day! I wish you well with your valentine, or if you dont have one l, i wish you well on your journey of finding one
@@PhilAndMindFunny thing is, Clover would've never thought to absorb Asgore's soul unless Flowey didn't tell them about it being possible
That and Clover couldn't save without LV 20, since they don't have as much determination
@@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS(spoilers)
flowey’s dead at the end of genocide, which makes clover the being with the greatest amount of determination in the underground, therefore, they are able to save at the end of genocide
There’s actually alternate dialogue to that introduction scene with Martlet and Flowey that Cibles found through doing a neutral ending after getting to the Steamworks on genocide then not finishing the job
In this one Martlet is more certain that you’ll kill her and Flowey believes that he got to her first
Saving what is arguably the best final boss in the game for the neutral endings was a nice move on the UY team's part. Gives us motivation to try the neutral routes.
I saved Genocide for last and I must say, not doing genocide makes Martlet dying, after she and Clover were just gonna just live together just hide away was heart wrenching and deeply makes me with we would obliterate that damn flower. I understand WHY it isn't that way but still. It's even worse considering Martlet died thinking we betrayed her.
The fact that the fight remembers who you killed in the neutral run is so wild and such a great detail. It’s almost like flowey’s taunting you for what you did!
I love the way this encounter really gives you that disturbing feeling of not being the most determined being in the underground. Facing a more determined foe, especially one as malicious a Flowey is pretty terrifying because of how utterly hopeless and out of control you feel. Makes me wonder what it was like for the monsters who fight Frisk in UT, especially on the genocide route.
I adore the team having those 7 years of work making the Flowey hard looks disturbing and unsettling to fight, the music here also goes really hard, breakcore does work wonders
"Making the flowey hard"
@@patoanimations420I ain’t even think of it like that first time I read over it-
if you actually wait for toriel after falling in that other ruins part she actually comes back, but the game just resets
which, after seeing floweys rambling about clover staying with tori or dying in the normal underground route makes much more sense now
Also he shows up for like a split second before it's reset.
GOD this is such a cool fight, Flowey is a really great villain and exploring his nightmarish mind and memories I think is just so cool
10:36 I feel like instead of clover refusing to give up, it's flowey keeping clover from dying so he can have more "fun"
flowey says at the end of the fight he wants them dead
@@roxas5071 well at the beginning he says he wants to have more fun with clover before he resets the world
@@roxas5071 maybe it's both! he wanted more fun at first, but clover kept fighting even after he got bored
@@roxas5071That’s because he got bored.
clover: **suffocating in an unimaginable nightmare that could only be described as hell itself, fighting with every last drop of the power drained from their being for the life they've already lost**
clover: 16:10
I noticed on another video, where they abandoned their genocide near the end, Flowey has different dialogue as well for the neutral route.
yeah he mentions how you stopped your massacre
Do you have a link to that video, by any chance?
I've been looking for documented differences in a run where the genocide route is aborted in the Steamworks (via failing to reach the kill count)
Just saw your comment, in Mystic Slimes stream he did neutral ending first, but within a genocide run up to before the end. I started the timestamp right before this point
m.czcams.com/users/liveJwJg10GBCK8?si=qsYMq0DM-eyP2T9C&t=14451
You know a fan project understands undertale when they make the neutral ending the best
Fun fact: the “What would you like to do?” And “great!” Voice clips are sampled from the same McDonalds commercial as “That’s a wonderful idea!” Flowey is consistently voiced by Ronald McDonald.
i really like how "MS Paint" Flowey's attacks take a lot of inspiration from his trauma
-also when did this become omori-
This one is better than Photoshop, so I think GIMP flowey is a better title.
Close-
I'd like to call it "FloweyCore"
Yup, the trauma attacks are pretty and really clever
But i'd guess it has something related to labs or something as the songs names are called "Clay, organic, paper."
Maybe Subject Flowey or Mass Flowey.
@@saiyanfang1047 I mean, Flowey _technically_ only has one SOUL in this fight, even if Clover is rebelling against him.
Shayy: Sees an off-color pixel
MUST BE A DELTARUNE REFERENCE
honestly i never thought i'd experience another boss battle as unexpected and disturbing as the original omega flowey fight. i was even spoiled for this one, although it was just one image of the second phase, and there was still so much to this fight that surprised me. the weird flowey sprites during phase one, the creepy interlude with asriel's memories and martlet melting, to the multiple different artstyles of phase two all just made this the coolest and most terrifying bossfight i've ever played.
Man, looking back at this really makes me realize how damn well the UT Yellow team knew Flowey. Like, his demo dialogue felt very in-character for how a pre-insanity Flowey would talk, and while his Pacifist dialogue is still a little too soft to really feel like Flowey, that’s just because that ending is so sad, they couldn’t just have Flowey go “Clovar, I remember you’re really are an idiot”. But in Geno (having not done or watched Geno due to emotional attachment) and especially Neutral, he is so especially Flowey that it’s understandable to forget that this is a fangame. Like, I love Yellow, but playing it always had an aura of “Too good for Undertale”, ya know? Like, Undertale is great, but it tried to feel authentic to its inspirations, with very well done sprites in a very minimal way, and I feel it really pays off. Yellow looks amazing, but I feel like everything past The Dark Ruins doesn’t *feel* Undertaley, ya know? Like, Ceroba’s sprites alone have more detail in them than like half of Undertale’s sprites combined. But, like, Flowey just feels so especially Flowey, he somehow feels more like Flowey than Undertale Flowey does.
Yellow is so great at feeling like it’s set in the Undertale universe, but it’s not very good at feeling like it’s a Toby Fox game. But Flowey is just so perfectly done that every time the game feels like it’s lost its footing he’ll just pop up and you’ll go “Oh look, it’s Flowey!” and it’ll just feel like you got sucked right back into Undertale.
Wait, I just realized I don’t think Flowey ever does the Asriel face in Yellow (Again, outside of Geno because although I’ve been spoiled on some aspects of Geno because internet, I don’t know everything about it), which implies he only did it to torment Frisk (Who he states in Pacifist he assumed was the first Fallen Human because they both had red souls and because Frisk decided to RP as them for like all of Undertale for an undisclosed reason)
I think one problem with the perception of the game is that too often people will try to compare it to the inspirations of the original and take points off for not being as authentic or simple in parts, when in reality it should just stand on its own as a game.
While I think the original Undertale is great as a story and obviously is the reason this exists, too many people kind of got caught up in pointing out how it's not a "Toby Fox" game when, in reality, it shouldn't be, cause that's the bane of a lot of other fangames. Sure same universe, but the differences are supposed to make you enjoy the game on its own (and to this day a Toby Fox game is still only defined as 1.5 games to the point where I think even he'd have trouble defining what constitutes such a description)
tl;dr it is in our human nature to compare but sometimes it's just best and infinitely more fun to experience all the stuff people can make, which is what this ending is a really good example of
@@sagaositygamez785 I’m okay with it being unique, but
A. If they want the artstyle to be unique, then either redraw the old characters or don’t use them at all. There’s a scene where Martlet interacts with Alphys with her 2 frames of animation and 4 colors and then Martlet does a 4k 60FPS head turn as if those two fit together, and
B. If they want the games set in the same world then *don’t make the worlds incompatible* . In Undertale, The Underground has no weather, as Alphys says. However, Undertale Yellow still descibes how The Underground’s weather works in great detail. In Undertale, Mettaton barely gets a dozen views on a good day, and one of them is Papyrus who just always has his TV on, but in Undertale Yellow, he’s world famous and is mentioned in both Snowdin and The Wild East. If the Toy Gun and Six Shooter accept anything as ammo, why doesn’t Frisk just load them? There’s a lot mpre examples of this, but CZcams crashed and I don’t wanna retype my whole comment, but still, the point stands that these two games “set in the same universe” have fundamentally different universes.
If I’m supposed to get immersed, why have every other room break my immersion. If Flowey wasn’t there, then it’d be a fun standalone project, and if Flowey was there more, it’d be a fun and more convincing Undertale fangame, but they take Flowey away from you _JUST_ often enough for the game to feel like it’s shackled itself to Undertale with no intent to follow up on it.
Plus, my main problem isn’t just that it “didn’t feel like Undertale”, it’s that is didn’t feel like Undertale _Yellow_ . Nothing that was set up in the demo was acted upon, they changed everyhting to fit the new lore, there’s tons of places where you’re supposed to just look at the pretty pictures and ignore the game being a buggy mess that the game wouldn’t’ve been if it had been more like the demo, which, given what a demo is, or at least should be, they should’e done.
If Undertale Yellow were released in full right now with the demo having been indicitive of the final game (which, yes, the Snowdin trailer from a year after launch shows of Ceroba’s mask, so they DEFINETLY had the “plot” planned out that far in advance), or even if they had just said “Hey, this game is gonna be a bit different than we planned, but we hope you enjoy it regardless”, or at least had done SOMETHING to indicate that the game had changed or that The Ruins aren’t at all similar to anything else in the game despite arguably being the best part of the game, it would’ve been a much better game IMO.
this ending rocks lol, i adore the art style changes
"When did this become a physiological horror game!?"-Shayy 2023 (20:52)
Gaurdener
Also this is straight up the best Flowey fight ever
They're multiplying
Guardener
also you're right
Okay, I said on the Genocide Ending video that the Genocide Route gave you the best ending in this game...
After watching this, I can now say confidently that the Neutral Ending is definitely the "bad ending" of this game, after watching all that horror Clover went through...
Also, great video!
Nothing like good ol trauma
Honestly i think that this ending is actually the coolest one. I wonder if they worked on it last cause every bit of that boss fight was polished for maximum creepiness.
I now understand why this game took like 8 years, holy shit
Haven't even watched the video (don't worry, I will, I just have to get done watching the Pacifist run video) but I'd just like to thank Shayy for realizing the thumbnail was a spoiler and changing it. Mad respect, stay determined Shayy.
My favourite thing about all this might be that it feels like it recontexualises the omega flowey fight. This is what it looks like when a soul fights back against the monster that absorbs it, and in that fight you manage to convince all 6 souls to fight back while still fighting yourself, which finally lets you win
If flowey ever had a voice actor, this guy would be overqualified.
It'd fit for Flowey to have multiple voice actors for the moods and forms, Shayy would definitely be the most recognizable and best voice actor
Well he’s on par with Jacksepticeye imo
That fight was so chaotic, absolutely banger!
The psychological horror elements in this fight gives me massive HELP_TALE vibes. That is HIGH praise.
28:58 no way his ass became the troll face 💀
9:09 oh look it’s me
Also I genuinely love how different each boss is from the other at the end of each run, really spices things up. Can’t wait to do this fight myself
Edit: another thing I find interesting is flowey’s opinion towards you in each respective ending since in geno: he outright hates you. Neutral: indifferent, negative leaning towards you. Pacifist: somewhat likes you, well enough to call you a friend anyways
I like how Floweys eyes follow you in the photoshopnt flowey fight
Yeah, I can absolutely tell why this took seven years.
my respect goes to the chatter who said "welcome to black space" at 17:26
17:04 that flowey sprite is HAUNTINGLY familiar, it looks almost identical to help_tale flowey's sprite, which if you didn't know is based heavily around the amalgamates, so all those melted/disformed floweys, the fact he repeats help me multiple times, the haunting music and the part where martlet melts all remind me of help_tale (it's a very cool concept of an au that has been long forgotten so if you don't know what I mean that's completely understandable)
Yeah, I can see what you mean. The forms of some of the monsters that return in this fight feel like they'd be right at home in help_tale too.
Yeah that too
27:30 has got to be a hylics reference. looks WAY too similar to just be a coincidence
"hes the one who made us fall down" if youre talking about flowey knocking the justice soul down, he went there by himself out of curiousity because of a missing poster and you can see at the start cutscene
He meant down the hole in the ruins
Flowey is the child in the store that doesn’t get what he wants, throws a tantrum, then gives up knowing he’s satisfied simply with gaining attention.
Martlet: *fucking dead*
Shayy: 🥤🥤🥤🥤 2:57
Insane how the neutral ending was easily the best climax
You killed Axis, starlo and guardner, you fool, I KILLED CEROBA.
Flowey Phase 1 gets a new attack for every miniboss/boss you've killed. I made the mistake of killing that dancer dude & his face is HORRIFYING.
so, this is what the 6 humans sould had to do to escape flowey control in your undertale battle?
Fr
The thing about this fight is that unlike the Omega Flowey fight, Flowey here is all bark and no bite. He literally cannot kill you. When you are down to zero HP, you simply break out of the vines and are good to go again. This is all mind games, trying to get you to give up, because Flowey in this state doesn't have much real power, despite having more determination than Clover.
"You..."
it's s shame most probably won't see this ending because they'll either go full pacifist or geno
I didnt even realize that the first phase of this fight would remember and attack you with the bosses you killed because i never did kill any of them on my first playthrough. This game just keeps surprising me!
Judging by how that fight went… flowey needs some serious therapy…
I'd like to mention the CREEPINESS that went into making Floweys theme here. It makes you think that its JUST a remake of Your Best Friend, however, Best Friends Forever (the theme) makes it clear that something is quite wrong and the creepy music before the TRUE battle begins is the exact thing that makes it work. Also that and during Floweys second phase he stares at Clovers soul, Justice.
Headcanon: all of the SOULS had to go through something similar to this in order to get free and help Frisk
I don’t know how this game pulled off flowey being terrifying better than Toby fox himself.
wHaT wOuLd YoU lIkE tO dO!?
*G R E A T !*
the "what have i done" at the end of the flowey hallway before crashing is just everything
Shayy: Realises it gives you a turn fighting everyone you've killed
Me, who did an aborted genocide: YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME
How was Ceroba?
Didn't appear
thats the name of the track agter martlet dies! you gotta be kidding me
Team UTY: hey, what should we do for the flowey fight?
Team UTY: EVERYTHING
There's a special neutral ending if you kill Ceroba in her pacifist fight where you go to fight ASGORE.
Got that one on stream
Some people call that the alternate pacifist ending. I like to call it the pacifisn't ending.
Iirc it's called flaw pacifist
This is genuinely disturbing
And I have now found my new favorite horror game
just found out that martlet's portrait is missing when you meet her again in snowdin, which means that fucking flower fooled you.
A scary detail i noticed that nobody talks about is how when flowey stabs martlet you can see her twitching and shivering like BRO that is probably realostic but gruesome nonetheless
I read someone in chat call it "Gimp Flowey" and now I'll just call it that
Hands down my favorite boss fight in the whole game
I kinda forgot that unlike undertale, this game does not expect you to do neutral first
To be frank, this truly is the natural previous next step from photoshop flowey. Truly fits the little shit
Good lord the Flowey boss fight is incredible.
Mostly cause of the fact that it uses multiple different art styles throughout the whole thing, really creative!
Edit: and obviously the music is cool too lol
This fight gives the same feel as fighting Omega Flowey for the first time. I love how familiar yet unique it is
reminder: if someone ever decides to make something undertale related and need voice actors, use shayy for flowey
"this is disturbing..."
....
"I LOVE THIS!"
I love when a family friendly game goes psychological/psychedelic horror
Lets go! Finally! Cant wait to see more u. Yellow content!
How many suitcases full of Pepsi did the devs snort to make this boss
Imagine someone playing this game without knowing anything about Undertale. Flowey would seem so fascinating and mysterious.
13:23
It remebers EVERYTHING
I had Dalv, el bailador, Axis, guardener and almost every other boss except for starlo and the frogs.
The intro also changes depending on what you do, my version never had any of the backstory stuff, it just said that he knew that Clover was fierce enough to outlast asgore and some other stuff.
Nvm it's also in this video but I swear basically everything else is different.
Fr Shayy does the best voice acting that I have ever heard from any undertale/deltarune players.
“This wasn’t threatening lives.” He says after stabbing Martlet
It doesn't threaten life when there's no longer one
@@Proretix he also tried to absorb Clover’s soul.
i love how after flowey did the face, chat just filled with ' - '