Hi Harry, Disappointing .... for sure. You're probably correct, the two driver pins sitting at the shearline, with the key removed. We are finding this with cylinders assembled in China - including Lockwood - particularly locks with balanced pin stacks. We have seen drivers sitting BELOW the shearline, and the spring across the shearline with the key removed. It doesn't effect the original key operation, so the lock is passed. When picking, our guys have found the spring/s wrapped around the plug jamming it and preventing full plug rotation. An incorrect but close cut key would create the same situation - and has. Thanks for showing. Regards, Brian.
LOL, if you want disappointing, check out the video I'm going to post in two days... it's borderline humorous! As for the driver pins, I've been coming across that a fair bit lately. I'm considering a video series on 50mm laminated padlocks, and have been taking a close look at them lately... A few of them (even very nice ones) have this issue. As for the springs wrapping around the cylinder... been there! Though never with a factory lock. I've received a couple of challenge locks where this was an issue. The maker didn't quite think things through enough.
That is a really nice looking lock. So much for lock fashion, the stanley beats it out. The shackle is the silliest part to me. It looks strong until you open it and its this tiny little shackle with a chunky rubber sleeve. Its surely a lock made for the unsuspecting public to give them that false sense of security. Nice Jobe Yale!
Los candados deben tener una protección de acero una tapa dónde ingresa la llave, que solo puede ser abierta por el propietario, como lo hay en algunas chapas ,así no podrá ser ganzuado
Uff. Just bought 220 on sale 10€ so far hardest for me to pick since im not so used to curvy keyways. So nice little practise lock. Noticed its same as 221 but misses the shackle guard. Saved some money there on production line...
In Europe that Yale costs roughly half what you paid for it, so you are probably paying a lot of import tax in that price. Despite that it still compares poorly to the Stanley, which is also available here for about the same.
+LockPickingLawyer The 221 series is quite common,I have to admit I haven't seen this in use anywhere near me or on my travels. Hard wear stores over here sell them but I would prefer something a it more substantial like a Kryptonite .
Apparently these are sold in supermarkets and the like in Europe, so they are really catering to the bottom rung of lock shoppers (education wise). Apparently, making a pretty lock is all you need to do.
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Hi Harry, Disappointing .... for sure. You're probably correct, the two driver pins sitting at the shearline, with the key removed. We are finding this with cylinders assembled in China - including Lockwood - particularly locks with balanced pin stacks. We have seen drivers sitting BELOW the shearline, and the spring across the shearline with the key removed. It doesn't effect the original key operation, so the lock is passed. When picking, our guys have found the spring/s wrapped around the plug jamming it and preventing full plug rotation. An incorrect but close cut key would create the same situation - and has. Thanks for showing. Regards, Brian.
LOL, if you want disappointing, check out the video I'm going to post in two days... it's borderline humorous! As for the driver pins, I've been coming across that a fair bit lately. I'm considering a video series on 50mm laminated padlocks, and have been taking a close look at them lately... A few of them (even very nice ones) have this issue. As for the springs wrapping around the cylinder... been there! Though never with a factory lock. I've received a couple of challenge locks where this was an issue. The maker didn't quite think things through enough.
That is a really nice looking lock. So much for lock fashion, the stanley beats it out. The shackle is the silliest part to me. It looks strong until you open it and its this tiny little shackle with a chunky rubber sleeve.
Its surely a lock made for the unsuspecting public to give them that false sense of security.
Nice Jobe Yale!
Serves me right not doing my research... :-( But yes, shame on Yale.
Thanks for the review. Definitely sub par lock. Will definitely save my money and invest somewhere wiser .great job picking as always!
Los candados deben tener una protección de acero una tapa dónde ingresa la llave, que solo puede ser abierta por el propietario, como lo hay en algunas chapas ,así no podrá ser ganzuado
Great Video and thanks for the in detail review. Never thought that it would be such a crappy lock.
Thanks... it was a disappointment, no doubt.
Great video thx for the heads up cause it does look good.
Thanks... I was pissed, especially after it took the very slow boat getting here from England. :-(
Uff. Just bought 220 on sale 10€ so far hardest for me to pick since im not so used to curvy keyways. So nice little practise lock. Noticed its same as 221 but misses the shackle guard. Saved some money there on production line...
Bummer that it costs so much and is as secure as a latch haha. Because those pins look like they give really good feedback and that can be quite fun.
Nothing fun about this lock... makes we want to start a series on shooting padlocks!
+LockPickingLawyer Do it. Or send them my way with a list of how you want them tortured to death... Be happy to put them down like the dogs they are 😉
May be a poor quality lock but sill a great video.
Thanks.
In Europe that Yale costs roughly half what you paid for it, so you are probably paying a lot of import tax in that price. Despite that it still compares poorly to the Stanley, which is also available here for about the same.
Style over substance 😳😯😞🔐
Stanley 1 Yale 0.
Thanks for the show and tell,very interesting as usual 👍😘🍻🔓🤔😉
That about sums it up. I actually got this lock from a seller in the UK. As these common over there?
+LockPickingLawyer The 221 series is quite common,I have to admit I haven't seen this in use anywhere near me or on my travels.
Hard wear stores over here sell them but I would prefer something a it more substantial like a Kryptonite .
Bummer...not nearly as tough as Darth Vader :-(
Great review! Thanks for the warning :-)
Thanks. From the looks of this lock, I thought it was going to attack back... sadly, it was like a Master Lock in costume.
Thanks for the review, I just cancelled my order of one. Not worth the 34$ pricetag.
Agreed. Pick up one of those Stanleys... awesome value!
companies make weird design decisions based on profit margins.
Apparently these are sold in supermarkets and the like in Europe, so they are really catering to the bottom rung of lock shoppers (education wise). Apparently, making a pretty lock is all you need to do.
That's really bad - what a disappointment. Thanks for the review.
Definitely a disappointment... well, they can't all be gems.
Can u take out the key when the lock os open? Or do we have to lock it first then you can take the key out?
Anyone know the model of the stanley?
send it back
LOL, not to the UK. Shipping's a beast.
yeah that's not a impressive lock disappointing for Yale..
Yup, very much so.