3 CLEVER TRICKS WITH MARRIAGE IN CRUSADER KINGS 3 | Beginner's Guide 09
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
- In today's beginner's guide to Crusader Kings 3, we take a look at how to use marriage to your advantage. This isn't just about forging alliances or starting a breeding program - things can get a lot darker in a proper Crusader Kings marriage plot. Learn how to gain land, gain claims, and scheme better with the use of your sons, daughters, and extended family as well.
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00:00 - Intro
00:30 - The Character Finder & Proposal Acceptance
02:59 - Assembling a Crack Team - As in a Superior Team...
06:03 - Marry for Schemes - Infiltrating Enemy Courts
08:46 - Marry for Family - Claims, Lands, and Dynastic Ambitions
13:05 - Outro
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Out of context this is terrible advice XD
Hi PE, could you possibly do a tips and tricks guide to innovations?
Trying to get a culture out of the tribal era seems to be a lost cause.
"I live my life, one-quarter duchy at a time." King Dom Toretto
In my upcoming Sibling Rivalry playthrough, I ended up as a 9 year old Jimena fighting 3 wars. So, I betrothed to the Duke of Toulouse daughter, he came and won my wars for me, then I broke the betrothal for a relatively small amount of prestige and got it back by betrothing to the newborn daughter of France.
I actually like to use the whole "marry child to non-heir and kill all the heirs" quite a lot but it can get messy. One time I married my son who wasn't inheriting anything to a king's daughter, killed the king, tried to kill the three sons but failed with the last one so he managed to pop out a son before I finally killed him, and then killed the baby which made the daughter, and later my dynasty, the sole inheritor. Only to later realize that my son wasn't doing his duty so I had to seduce my son wife, she popped out twins, and a good thing to because my son died before leaving any of his actual children. My character was also Forgiving even though he was mega good at intrigue so I kept getting stressed. Still worth though.
Messy? That's just a regular Tuesday in CK
@@wr4id619 Hey, I actually saw that one!
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Gotta love having to do your daughter in law so ur son has kids lol
I literally did that only after realizing my son's wife was hot so I seduced her only to realize she was pregnant afterwards
Wife number 1 for her stats usually stewardship, wife number 2 for her traits, 3 and 4 as replaceable knights. Thats just me though
One wife with diplomacy, swap her to top and tell her to assist court politics and bam, easy opinion gain.
Also, marry the old geniuses. Less kids and more stats ftw
i always go for alliances first or second
Same, except I go spouse number 1 for intrigue (great for planting the seeds of inheritance through schemes), spouse number 2 for traits, etc.
The amount of times I'll marry off sons that aren't heirs only to check their family line a hundred years later and see they're kings somewhere else while I'm a Duke in debt
Pro tip.if you go for the "pick any heritable trait" in the dynasty traits go for fecund,it's the rarest inheritable trait,with no level,and is quite good.genius, herculean and beautiful are commonly found in the wild
You're talking about the Dynasty Legacy perk, right? I just picked up the game a couple of weeks ago, so thanks for the tip. But how sure are you about Fecund being the rarest Congenital Trait? Is it from actual statistics you've seen or it's just anecdotal? I agree with Fecund being much much rarer than the 3 main Congenitals, but at least I HAVE seen it about 3-5 times "in the wild". But I've never seen Pure-blooded EVER, at least in nature. Isn't it the rarest GOOD Congenital, and should I not pick it? Thanks.
@@iAzajar it's been long time since I played.the dynasty perk yes,the frequency of fecund is anecdotal.back then pureblood was a trait gained by inbreeding,you couldn't pick it in the dynasty perk.
@@valipunctro I see. Just wanted to hear some insights from veteran players as it's my 1st foray into the franchise itself, so I'm still feeling all the details out, like the Congenitals, LOL. But thanks for the quick reply anyway, mate. :)
@@iAzajar Try using the find character screen and filter for the Pure blooded trait for all characters in the world every once in a while
@@cykablyat5254 I don't think there's a filter for "Pure-blooded", but if you meant "Inheritable", yes, I actually do that & look for Pure-bloods every now & then. But like I said, so far, I haven't encountered a single one "in the wild", so I kinda gave up, LOL. But if you really have, then I guess it's possible; I'll try again. Thanks.
These are great tips, I have been using this to gather a badass team of knights for awhile now.
Nice!
I have been using generic courtiers to pull in good characters to fill my champion and council slots, and to build a stable of good genetic traits. As I expand, I can grant them a county to keep them from running off to a better liege later. It is a great strategy, but can get tedious when you have a large empire!
Wonderful idea about marriage infiltration for schemes!
On the last point, if you are RPing a guy who doesnt murder the previous claimants, try to find an old ruler who has an adult heir, if that heir has kids, great because they are not in line for any titles you can marry them into you family super easily, and just wait 2 generations for the title to come under your dynasty
But marry them matrilinearry right?
@@rollercoaster478 Yes
@@eldarethvokkun2247 ok interesting
@@eldarethvokkun2247 that will increase renown, but will not give my future heirs the territory or a claim, right?
Hey Sir, I hope you are enjoying this game as much as me. Recommending an 867 start in Kru. I having a ton of fun. always love your videos
kru is rly fun! :)
I personally like the dublin start or a northern Iberia start for a 'purge the invader' run; that also allows you to get the achievement for making all of Iberia Christian.
I'll check the Kru start out, thanks ! I'm loving the game, and glad to hear you are too. Crusader Kings hits a spot that 0 other games do =)
That's interesting what makes Kru special?
@@randomguy9886 to me it is interesting because it is in a back water. Only real power at Start is Ghana and they are a good distance North. It is fairly easy to gain your Duchy and then a kingdom. I'm not a master CK player, only had 112 hours in CK 2, but I was able to get my Kingdom with my first Character. Depends on your playstyle on what you do from there. You are welcome to watch my series on my channel.
Breeding the best player character,court and vassals is the most op strategy in the game,make them of your dynasty and you basically won the game.
Just don't go overboard with it. I went absolutely ham on the eugenics in my current playthrough and now damn near everyone in my diplomatic range is related to some degree. So now most of my heirs are getting that Inbred trait and still no pure-blood in sight...
If a ruler has an heir with no titles of their own yet, and that heir has children, you can marry your daughter/granddaughter to the foreign ruler's eldest grandson matrilineally without incurring the -1000 point deduction in acceptance chance. This only works if the ruler's son doesn't have any titles yet, though. But this way your dynasty will eventually take control of that title, and you don't have to do any scheming/murdering!
One minor annoyance with the character finder is that it lacks some of the filters available in the Find Spouse interface, such as age and inheritable traits. Hopefully these will be added at some point.
Such a strange oversight
love the videos, keep them coming. On marriages, it was critical as Kingdom of Munster (Ireland) to form the empire of brittania early. The biggest stepping stone was betrothing my daughter quickly to the son/heir of mercia and using an alliance with mercia, I was able to expand into welsh/scottish area. I kept calling mercia into wars and they only had 1 son. The king got injured and died to his wounds leaving the son to be the ruler. When I died and started playing as my heir, I killed the son (my nephew) allowing my sister to be the ruler of mercia. From there, I was able to drag mercia into wars with kingdom of england (their liege) through 'call house member to war'. Everything else is history after toppling kingdom of england.
i've been leeching your videos since CK3 release. you deserve my sub
Glad to hear it =). Thanks!
I thought seducing their courtier is enough. Now you add more strategy to my scheme. Thanks!
You don't necessarily need to give your dynasty members independent realm to produce renown. Of course it's probably better to do that anyway. But for the purposes of renown generation, the game checks for a ruler's top liege of their dynasty and that's the ruler that produces renown for that dynasty. You can be a vassal and still produce renown as long as none of the lieges above you are of your dynasty.
Say in the HRE, there are 10 dukes of your dynasty while the emperor is of another dynasty, those 10 dukes will contribute 0.5 renown a month. And let's say there's an additional 5 counts of your dynasty in the HRE that are not subjects of your dynasty dukes, those 5 counts will contribute 0.25 renown a month. But the moment anyone from your dynasty becomes the emperor, only the emperor will produce renown for your dynasty.
Something's off then because that doesn't track with my experience. I reconstituted the Roman Empire and kept all remaining Empire tier titles for myself. Almost all the myriad kings and dukes under me were of my dynasty. My renown kept growing over time, up to 40+ per month by 1453. That's not possible under the system you describe. Any sources for that information?
Actually, this is incorrect. Renown is generated by:
* each living member (0.02/month)
* each ruler who is not a vassal under member of the same dynasty (0.12 to 2.0 /month)
* each member married to a ruler of a different dynasty (0.1 to 1.6 /month)
ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Dynasty
@@bumptiousbuffoon7824 how is that incorrect when that's literally what I said. I literally said as long as you're not a vassal of someone of your own dynasty you would generate renown even if you're a vassal. The only way you could be generating 40 renown a month is if you had like 600+ living members, you have a bunch of rulers that aren't in your realm that you're just not aware of, or you just misread.
Your two statements literally contradict each other. one statement you say I'm incorrect while also stating literally the same thing I said. The other statement you claim to have generated 40 renown per month by having a ton of dukes and kings of your dynasty as vassals even though you literally said in your other comment "* each ruler who is not a vassal under member of the same dynasty". So even if you really did produce 40 renown per month, it can't be because of your dynasty vassals, only you as the emperor would be producing renown, and that remaining 38 would just be from hundreds of living members or rulers outside your realm you just don't know.
So yeah idk what your point is. In my current game as Francia I have 6 kings of my dynasty, 3 of them my vassals and the other 3 are independent crusader states. I have 4 dukes of my dynasty, 2 are my vassals, 1 is a vassal of England, and 1 broke away from one of my crusader states. Only me, the 3 crusader states, and the duke from england and palestine are the ones generating renown, which matches the system where only rulers who aren't vassals of your dynasty will produce renown.
As a side note, you also can't cheese the system by giving your dynasty members duchies and giving them to a kingdom vassal of another dynasty.
@@softy9123 I see what you were trying to say now. I was confused by your suggesting in the first paragraph that you can still produce renown so long as you aren't under a member of the same dynasty. This came across as as applicable to 'you the player' rather than 'anyone in your dynasty.' Your concluding sentence also suggests that once anyone becomes a vassal under the same dynasty no one else will generate renown, even if independent. It's a not unreasonable interpretation.
I see what happened with my1453 game. Apart from 1,395 living members making it silly to keep track, a bunch of the modifiers list people because they hold special buildings that grant +5% renown like the Hagia Sophia, Dome of the Rock, Palace of Aachen, Notre Dame, etc. Universities also grant renown, but this also gets listed as a ruler. I probably got confused by that, conflating it with when I was conquering everyone.
@@bumptiousbuffoon7824 well I guess it is confusing when I said that no one else in my dynasty would produce renown but that example was just limited to the HRE and all of my dynasty is just inside it. I only mentioned the rulers within the empire and didn't specifically mention that I had no one outside the empire so I guess that's understandable.
I know this is old video but helping so much to me
thank u for making this
Oh dude I've been trying to figure out how best to deal with all the badly skilled people in my court. Now I have an answer. Thanks for making this video!!
This is the most, maybe the sole important guide.
thank you for your tips, sir.
First dynasty playthrough . I engineered 2 generations worth of breeding and killing off legit claimants to get the throne of scotland and england . Cinched scotland, married my heiress to her cousin, the king of england. Figured I'd have my grandson be the heir of ireland and scotland through me and england through his father. When I hit the mortal coil and my daughter reigned, I found my grandson wasn't a viable candidate to continue my line and I have no heirs left since I killed off all direct contenders including his baby siblings, fml. Now I gotta reload an older save file, impregnate my daughter, legitimize the bastard and kill off my grandson the king of england.
Anything for the line.
Thanks. :) Greetings from Germany!
Well earned Sub good job dude
Thanks!
I can't thank you enough man.
@marry for family - I did the trick with Byzantium. Had claimant to a duchy... but luckily: he also had a claim to the empire. So I married him to my daughter, then pressed his claim, made a siege of the city (extremely long one, I might add) and bang! Now their son is in my dynasty and rules the empire.
Generally with tactics like that try to start a war when the enemy empire is right after the war and has soldiers depleted. It speeds up the process significantly. Also capturing duchy capitals instead of a counties tends to give some nice prisoners to sell in order to fund the war.
When playing as tribal I recently discovered if you sort marriages by prestige gain marry the highest that is of age then divorce them and remarry again then divorce and keep going until you have no piety left. Then wait for it to go up again and repeat the process it is a nice way to get prestige (especially useful for a mongol play-through where you need exalted among men for greatest of khans).
That ending
The actual best marriage trick i was expecting was the tons of prestige you can farm from piety through repeated divorces. I got like 20k prestige just by remarrying the same girl.
Nice. In spite of the FF reference.
Made me subscribe
I noticed that the emperor of byzantium was childless, so I had my also childless heir's wife murdered and waited for the byzantiums to pop out a princess.
They didn't.
They had a son.
So I killed him.
They tried again,
It was a girl.
I marri d my heir to her and killed her father, the emperor.
Let's hope their spawn and my future playing character becomes a Byzantine boss.
Correction for the renown gain. Character X of Dynasty Y will not generate renown if any liege of Character X is also of Dynasty Y. If your Dynasty holds every duchy in France your renown gain will be massive and drop to nearly nothing if your dynasty becomes king.
PartyElite giving advice for marriage;
me: _dies inside_
Do it for the chil'ren!
Hahaha i know i know =D
Please create a guide to how to gain some of the useful traits.
press c for character, set the search to search only within diplomatic range, search for the trait you want in the search box, set unmarried as another filter, filter for fertile.
For instance I want to breed pure blooded people. I search Pure blooded, set it to fertile, within diplomatic range. I then kidnap the person and recruit them.
@@alexsmith2910 thanks for the info, but I am looking for traits to bust my current character.
Do pilgrimage, host feast/hunt. But its random, sometimes temporary stats boost, sometimes you get like eager reveler or hunter which is permanent.
The easiest way is having a character go full into the medical tree and get any "witch" or herbalist, random encounters offer to you. With some luck you can find some special knowledge and get a quest to give it to your whole dynasty.
Also you can go on some crusades, did not even have to be a sucsessful one.
You were way ahead with that fast and the furious joke
please make a guide on succession, especially on the partition since its always the beginning with tribal govs. also the scandinavian election and how to manipulate it if possible so only
one heir will get all the major titles(in my case an empire and 3/4 kingdom titles)
I managed to almost flawlessly do it with the first leader but in the second its just a terrible mess and my grandson who i want to be the heir doesnt have claims to my titles so i cant vote for him
lol, i started playing recently and i didn't know u could invite people to increase chances of murdering someone
also, the trick with marrying your children is a great idea because of the hook!
Thanks for the video! I'm trying to learn the game and your videos are a great help! But I just did something silly I don't understand. In an attempt to bring someone into my court by finding a wife for one of my champions (both lowborn), they ended up in the wife's court! How can you tell which court they will join after marriage?
She may be lowborn but if she had any titles (gifted or conquered) she would stay there due to her rank being higher than your champ
Does anyone know if your vassals will buy their own dutchy titles if you're King? Or do I have to pay for all of them?
I've run into an issue where I'm marrying grandchildren together to get eh pure blooded trait but for some reason my characters won't marry more than 1 person they related ( I have a religion where we can have 4 wives) to or stop giving the option to marry anyone at all even though the arrange marriage (with a hook) is there. Please help!
How is the character finder any better than the arrange marriage window? Looks like the same exact window & filters.
The key difference is that the Character Finder will also show you people who are already married, and while they're not immediate options for marriage, their current spouses can be assassinated to open up a marriage opportunity.
I'm not sure you need to kill the claimant before pushing the claim. Securing the marriage is enough, as they will eventually pass it on to their children.
guys.. i have question..
what if my religion has equal right.. and my wife has 3 kingdom claim..
did my character will get those kingdom if i wage war.. or it is for my children?
because that claim was from my wife not my character
And remember, if you take care of your family, they will take care of you. If you don't take care of your family, they WILL take care of you. :)
Anyone know if one Xbox it has character finder
All these strategies take way too much tedious time. I usually marry my daughter's off to people with good traits matrilineal and then give them pieces of my big empire. It doesn't give me renown but they're more loyal, less likely to fight their family, form alliances and conquer other opponents for me. Franchising!
OMG ITS BEOGRAD IN YOUR VIDEO I LIVE IN BEOGRAD
if i was making a video to this stuff I'd include my favorite way of getting money. Using a daughter to marry a rich guy whom you seem to have a murder plot on or maybe if your lucky march off to war to a losing battle. He died and leave all his money to your daughter. IF she wasnt knocked up and had no kids all that money goes to you and not your daughter. As he died the land you gave him goes back to you as well. this only works for male only title owner law. since women in game seem to be items and not people when this law in effect.
Cannot use character finder on console Paradox!
when I heard murder, I closed the video.
It won't let me assign anyone male/female to my council once I've brought them into my court. What am I doing wrong? I'm Roman Culture, Hellenic faith. I understand that male dominant faiths mean I can't assign women, but I literally married my court out to a bunch of Viking warriors and the like and it won't let me assign them even with a matrilineal marriage.
Will subscribe if you can help me lmao I'm beyond frustrated.
Just got this game. I was posed to take land but didn’t want to go the route of war. I had a daughter and thought it would be great to marry her off in arranged marriage to the guys son. I however couldn’t locate the name of the kid on any list. Can 2 kids be arranged marriages. My plan was to do this and later when they grow up kill off his father so he slides in to power and then use my daughter as influence to gain the land.
Do you ever search to marry for love?
No char finder or any finder on console, yet…!?
Does this work in Ironman mode? I tried to marry off my children to influential people and it wouldn't let me. When I searched it kept coming up blank.
No reason it shouldn't. Sounds like a filter or some other issue.
How can I find this on Xbox
I matrilineally married off my daughter and she went to the other dudes court anyways, it isn't the matrilineal marriage that keeps them at your court, anyone know what the trick is?
He was probably a ruler. Only unlanded males would come to your court if you do a matrelinial marriage
Yep - sounds like the other dude was a landed individual, which means he has to stay at his own court (since he's leading it!) and so anybody he marries needs to join him. Sorry, I should've been clear on that!
@@99Pierogies @PartyElite Ah, that's what it is, I think his dad gave him land after they were betrothed lol.
idk about u but i look for the most pretty lady in the realm :)
One small question, why I always get -1000 for matrilineal marriage? Please help...
You're probably targeting somebody too important - if you target somebody further down the succession or just less important in general, then they'll be more willing to accept a matrilineal marriage!
@@PartyElite thank you! I will kill my way through!
How do you get them to accept matrilineal marriage? Would a hook do the trick?
Bribes, hooks, or of someone with a lower renown to your house
Hooks always help, yep! You can also try to sway the appropriate individual to help improve relations. Keep in mind though, it's almost impossible to get a matrilineal marriage on a male land-holder - they know what's at stake!
I swear this has gotten harder. As far as finding good council.
So I managed to acquire the whole of Britannia with my dynasty of Herculean, Beautiful, Fecund Geniuses... the problem is that everyone of my vassals are now of my dynasty in varying minor houses plus most of the courtiers in their courts are also related in some way...
My question is thus:
At what level or degree of separation does a dynasty member have to be to each other to avoid the inbreeding chance? 3rd cousins? 4th? 🤷♂️
from the wiki: "inbreeding is the process of two characters who are at least 4th degree relatives having children together. Such children can be born with negative congenital traits even if neither parent has them. However, there is a small chance for the child to gain the Trait pure blooded.png Pure-Blooded trait instead. The chance to gain inbreeding traits is low in the first generation, but each successive generation has a higher chance."
Fourth-degree relatives include an individual's great-great-grandparents, great-great-grandchildren, and first cousins once-removed (i.e., the children of the individual's first cousins).
dunno about the video but my strategy has always been get myself lustful and get a lot of babies ask your other male children to take vows or castrate them if your byzantine and marry off your daughters to kings counts dukes and sometimes even emperors just because of how useful renown is
also it gives you a network of alliances so you can invade whatever you want
for example i invaded the kingdom of ruthenia as poland and won
and if I had a claim on the HRE i could invade and claim the title right now
also if you play a small kingdom, duchy or tribe use the ruler designer and give yourself as much fertility as you can i recommend you be a female as females get prestige from giving birth and being pregnant
those very sons and daughters can also be used instead of castratingf or forcing vows you can use them to get renown by granting them titles under you instead of course you need to make sure that they dont rebel however usually brothers seem to like each other more than if theyre not brothers and even if they take your kingship youll still have a title and troops if you manage to convince your liege to allow you to conquer outer territories or maybe you just keep simcitying with what you have you should be able to rebel
"their Chillren"
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Divorce by murdering their spouse ... Shouldn't it be called widowing?
Where do babies come from?
0:17 😷😷 Habsburgs
I always wanted to be a Habsburger lol
There is one thing that I absolutely do not understand: when you
Try experimenting with a cheat mod. You can create a new game and test out stuff. I suggest glorified's cheat mod.
me in real life: force marriage is the worst thing can happen to someone and i'm against it... also me on CK3: OMG WHEN THIS F***ING WIFE OF MINE WILL GIVE BIRTH TO AN IDIOT SO I CAN MAKE ALLIANCES.... well actually my children born bethrothed XDDDD
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Funniest thing don't forget to check if they are homosexual! Very low chance of children. Has happened though in my game. Sly medieval people...
I just find the hottest one
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Hahahahaha the missed hit with that terrible reference fast and furious really ? Have u ever seen The Godfather?
The Godfather is one of my favourite movies of all time, but if you play a drinking game with the word "family" in the Fast and Furious series, you're in for a wild ride =P
Wtf is a denasty?
The 3d map is so ugly in those games... no change since 1990.
100% Useless 3D map that would be better in 2D