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My 5 seconds of infamy, I was the inbound PA28 (CB) as you were leaving Barton. As a student pilot, we get used to the busy radio work around the area so it is great to sit back, watch and reflect on someone experiencing it for the first time.
Watching you two blokes together is an absolute treat 😎😎
Not to mention their eyewear is on point!
Loved it! Two of my favourite content creators in the same video. UK pilot here but never been up to Manchester and after watching this not sure I will. The amount of stations Jon had to talk to was mental.
That was fun!
Here in Canada we have Mandatory Frequency airports. Same idea: the ground station provides weather and traffic information. They don't issue clearances but can help resolve conflicts.
Actually squawk conspicuity is actually used for both vfr and ifr. So if you’re vfr then indeed you set 7000, otherwise 2000 for ifr. This way the controller doesn’t need to remember what rules you’re flying.
Watching a Lewdix video and get notified another Lewdix video gets posted 😤
It’s a LewDix kind of day 🙌🏻
Great video, nice to see you on my home turf…looks like Jon was in again today, he must like the place 👏
Smashing! What great banter! Dueling discount codes is the highlight of the video. You and John are exceptional ambassadors of the hobby (passion).
Two of my favorite channels. So happy to see you two flying together.
Thank you! Jon is a top bloke!
Skydemon the best thing to have :-)
Welcome in Europe!
Priceless as always!! Loving the Liverpool banter all the way from Alberta! From Stockport originally- those north west clouds never change eh!
My two CZcams aviation favourites!! Loved this collaboration. 6 years since the last meeting but hopefully not as long until your next meeting. Keep up the great work
Hi Lew, nice to bump into you at Barton the other week. Steve.
Lovely to meet you in person!
"Sliding in and out of the Matz area" lmfaoooo
😏
Awesome to see you two lads flying around my local area. Great vid!
Two buddies and two wings in their proper position. Fun video Lew!
Thanks man!
What a cracking episode, being from Manchester myself made me feel right at home. I'm learning to fly out here in Sunny Australia. I'm returning back home in August for the first time in 8 years. @Theflyingreporter would be great to book your services and take my Dad up for a UK flight mate !
Fantastic chemistry guys 👍 Made for a very entertaining video, great job 👌👏👏👏
Thanks!
Great to see two of my favourite YT'bers in one video! Loved the banter you guys were having. It had me in absolute stitches. I'm wondering which one of you will win the battle of the discount codes? Haha
This control zone is similar to an MF area in Canada (mandatory frequency). A controller doesn’t even have to be at the airport to be there; communicating is required and they provide traffic advisory. It’s for an airport that is slightly busy which can handle larger ifr aircraft but not busy enough for control towers
Being British & American I absolutely love this episode!😂
Nice video both of you. Thanks for all the work you both put into making content!
Thanks mate!
This was quite a special video for me. I grew up in Preston, and I flew for the first time as a teenager in air cadets at RAF Woodvale (21:01). I'm now a commercial pilot living in Australia, so it was so interesting seeing the difference between airspace requirements back home in england.
Two UK Aviation YT legends. Touring over the legendary Bolton Wanderers' Stadium. What more could you want from an aviation video. Well done lads! PS - For the people who complain about FAA regulations, they are on another level in Europe. Wow.
This really brings back back memories of flying in the UK. I spent years flying in USAF and deployed often to England. Talking to a controller was always standard. Then there were two levels of ATC, civilian and military radar. Their ATC controllers were always amazing. Generally, whatever you asked for, you got. Flying ground radar directed approaches was special because most RAF bases supported. I would take pilots up just to fly radar based approaches up and down the UK. The other unique issue is the huge population of Brits that embrace the aviation community. It’s local, it’s often history based and everyone is on board.
My two favourite aviation youtubers, flying out of Barton where I am currently 14hrs into my flight training!! Great video. Just FYI the Reebok Stadium has so much traffic as it is a great ground reference to know you are now out of the Barton ATZ & out from under the D into the class G for basic manouvers so plenty flight training North of it!
Glad you found the video mate!
I can't believe the timing of this video! I, like you, are a born & bred Brit who's never really done any UK flying. All mine has been in and around KSMO. But in the past 4 days I've been binging @theflyingreporter while under the weather and found his videos to be excellent, albeit confusing as H^%% regarding UK airspace and the colossal number of squawk codes they go through on a simple (well it should be simple) cross-country flight! Your video has been illuminating to say the least!! Well done.
Great timing! Jon’s content is up there with the best in my opinion. He deserves a lot more recognition than he currently gets. Glad you enjoyed it
Unless doing transits, the whole basic service routine is a total waste of time. Even IFR if outside controlled airspace I rarely bother getting a service.
Best just fly IFR so don’t have to hassle with VFR differences UK vs US 😂😂😂
Thank you! Great video!
Hey Lewis. Interesting watching someone from the UK with very little knowledge of flying in the UK. I'm from your favourite city (in the video), Liverpool. Yeah, I heard your insults! But, I lived and worked in Casper, Wyoming in 1995 and 1998. In 1998, I flew 36 hours in a Cessna 172 including 5 hours solo - but when I returned to the UK, I didn't continue flying. After lockdown, I restarted but only have 27 hours. I didn't fly all this year because of back-to-back business trips and last year, I focussed on ground school exams. A few pointers for your US followers;
- Before the pandemic, the exams used to be a selection of 16 questions out of a question bank of 120 questions. Now, they changed everything and you need to read/study the entire 9 books to pass. I'm a graduate in aerospace engineering and I failed 2 of them (but passed them all now). They went from one extreme (i.e., very easy) to another.
- Over in Wyoming, I had *no problem* with RT. However, as you saw from Jon, the phraseology here in the UK is so intense, it's really screwed up with my airmanship since my Comms are sh*t. I finally have some teaching material, thanks to Jon's channel, to start studying. You can't use ARSim (I subscribed and they introduced Liverpool, Blackpool and Hawarden) because of the VRPs and also the permissions required to enter controlled airspace. In ARSim, you always say things "Inbound for the option". Here in the UK, there's no such thing as "the option" in RT.
- IMC, for your non-UK viewers is basically an IR-Lite qualification which has a minimum of 15 hours of dual instruction. However, it's not valid for anywhere else.
Oh, and here are some locations which I found really interesting; besides Blackpool where I few to with my instructor a few times.
21:32 RAF Woodvale was where I first flew in a DeHavilland T Mk10 Chipunk as an air cadet in 1987.
21:40 Seaforth is where I grew up.
25:35 That's where I'm currently taking flying lessons (again, after a 22 year hiatus)!
This is surreal, I've grown up in Lostock next to middlebrook and I've recently been looking at plane shares at Manchester barton lol.
What a great episode. Thank you.
Awesome collab of my two favourite aviation youtubers!
Thank you for watching!
I had a good laugh watching that great video. Brought back memories of when I used to learn to fly at Barton many years ago - I knew you were going to laugh at MATZ penetration!
By the way it’s been in the 70’s here for over a week now- almost Florida like. 😅
WELCOME TO THE GROUND! 🤣 Two aviation You Tube legends in the same video after so long, love it.
Great episode… very funny!
Now this was a surprise 😁, brilliant video. Never seen John laugh so much .
Not sure how long you in UK for BUT love to see some more videos of you flying in UK. 👌
Jon is hilarious! I'm back in the US now but want to do some more flying back home soon.
Been waiting for this ❤!
My head would explode with the airspace dynamics and understanding the accents.
Two of my favourite flyers, this is great!!!
Fan-TASTIC vid, Mr Lew! (Or should i call you Mr Dix, sliding in and out as you were...) 😂
Great video. Great to see you two together again.
Great to see you back in the UK. Cool video. I flew into Barton on Saturday.
Brilliant vid, there was a part on there where I thought your voice was identical to Patrick McGuinness from Top Gear. Thank you
haha We are both from Bolton
Loved the video, great to see you adding to your knowledge
I spent a lot of time researching rules for this video haha
nobody likes a soft banana... my family is all from the Colchester/Essex area. I remember visiting England and went to Colchester Castle and was completely awe struck at the sheer size and age of the castle, being the oldest in England.
In some of the WWII movies and what not i have watched, i have seen so many of those old style towers, and the grass fields, and thought my god how many of those had spitfires, mustangs, B17 bombers, all strewn about.. so much history. i would LOVE to go back and visit where my parents grew up.
The last time i was there, was when my nana was alive and she lived on Bergholt Rd, and i used to walk to the pub with my dad, and get a beer, and i was 17 at the time, and i remember coming back to the US and in High School telling everyone how much i loved a Shandy, compared to a lager, or a bitter.. lol
Totally get your confusion of the U.K. GA flying world! Also a Brit, flying for a major international airline in the U.K., but having done my PPL and CPL in the US, flying GA in the U.K. would terrify me despite operating in and out of it IR all the time :P
Amazing to see The LewDix in UK skies!
top banter!
Nice move tagging TFR to find that bigger audience. You hooked me and reeled me in. Enjoyed. Ex Brummie in upstate NY. If you’re ever up this way come soaring and be one with the energy of aviation. Now trolling through your other vids!!
Follow you both and great to see this little collab.
Great to be a part of!
Did both my PPL(A) and PPL(H) out of Barton as its not far from where I live... great place for training, even with the bumpy runway! Gutted I missed you and Jon there!
Hahahahaaaaa far king brilliant mate..! Great to see John cracking up!! 😂😂😂
Really detailed and informative one, thanks Lew!
Thank you!
Superb video, as ever! Always guaranteed a good laugh!
Brilliant, my two favorite aviation CZcamsrs taking a trip around my old home area (I'm from Blackpool and now living in North Georgia USA).
Lewis, you'll have to come up to Dahlonega sometime and hang around in our Hangar, there's quite a good group of guys who you'd find quite entertaining!
Great to see two of my fave CZcams legends combine.
Thanks!
Fun little episode. Great chemistry.
So awesome....you are the consumat pilot's pilot...giving us all a look into aviation...everywhere:) Great video...and as always, you do an awesome job of reflecting the joy in flying...:) keep it up!!
Lewdix comedy hour at home in England! You are the man! Love it!😂😂😂
30 minutes of CZcams Gold right there!!! Excellent 👏👏👏
Haha 🙌🏻
Nice. I follow both you guys
Thanks!
"Requesting MATZ penetration". "MAX penetration????? What are we doing Jon?????" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂 One of the best moments on my channel!
It s look like complicate in Uk but I reassure you, it is complicate in Europe and each country into Europe is so different (areas regulation, air trafic control, flight plan request, PPR…etc etc)
Very good video ! Interesting to have the feeling of an american !
Thank you for your video !
An ATZ is actually ‘aerodrome traffic zone’. And yes, it’s complicated. An AFIS (not FISO, that’s strictly British) cannot instruct anything to anyone in the air but if you don’t listen you’ll have a bit of a problem anyway. Happy flying!
Wow, Lew in the UK and... with the Flying Reporter?! Legendary!
Hope you're doin' well, man.
Miss working with you! Hope you’re well too my friend!
ATZ = aerodrome traffic zone. Dimensions are a radius of 2nm or 2.5nm (where longest runway is longer than 1850m) from the midpoint of the longest runway, extending from the surface to 2,000ft AAL. MATZ is military ATZ, with larger dimensions and stubs for the approaches.
Having just emigrated from Preston to New Zealand this gave me a little bit of homesickness. At least you did actually fly over the greatest stadium in the NW when you flew over Deepdale, the home of football. Great video,thanks.
😂 Brilliant. I’ve got a soft spot for PNE. So has John McGinlay 😉
@@LewDixAviation not forgiven him for relegating us a Burnden in 93. It was my only visit to Burnden Park . Then when you lot beat us at Wembley in 2001 it became obvious Bolton have been a bit of a bogey team for us.
My home airfield it’s weird to see you there
Avoided taking on either "The Overhead Join" or QFE, I note. ;)
Bloody funny , nice one fellas 😂
Cheers!
Mandatory ADS-B only for certain parts of USA (think major metropolitan areas) and specific altitudes.
What should I have called it? Conditional mandatory ADS-B and rattled off where it's required and not? 😂
This guy is a hoot!! You’re eyes when he said MATZ Penetration🤣🤣🤣
😂
Really enjoyed this episode
Great to hear!
Very nice description of the differences. Like u (British export 😅😅) I did most of training in the USA with only just a little flying (post-certification) in the UK. Like u , not so keen on flying IMC without IFR services even outside of controlled airspace. Douglas Commercial SMEL/IFR
Wonderful!
A rare treat to hear/listen to UK 'atc', because over here it is illegal... Such a shame as this video was so enlightening! Woild love lots more!
Hey mate, just a note on the FISO, it's not technically uncontrolled, and it doesn't just provide information to aircraft, it controls aircraft on the ground, in the sense you need all the clearances you would on a fully ATCed airdrome up to the point where you take off at your discretion, or land at your discretion. e.g. you request taxi, follow instructions on ground, once you are cleared to enter the rwy, it's you and the sky.
And as always, superb vid. I am jelly you are in the UK and I am not close to be there shouting at you like the groupie I'd be.
Brilliant, what a laugh!!
8:07 visual, low left
Been flying out of KSMO in Los Angeles. Landing fees are a thing here lol
17:40 USA does not have overall mandatory ADS-B, it is only required in very specific areas and altitudes.
Correct.
Quite funny. As a UK former PPL (20 years ago) but that has been in GA quite recently I could understand the UK radio. Took me ages of watching US aviation videos before I knew what was going on.
Two YT legends for the price of one 👍
That confused face was the exact reaction I had when o flew with a cfi in the states
It’s easier over here!
welcome back home.
Weird to see you fly next to where I live and so close to the place I learnt to fly! xD (Liverpool)
WELCOME TO THE GROUND LOOOOL IM DEAD
Good to see you both together. Barton seems well known on You Tube.
I've never flown in that part of the world, but I've stayed in Lancashire a lot, Bolton too, in the 1980s and 1990s for work, met that other local legend, a couple of times, the late Fred Dibnah. I was always made so welcome in Lancashire and Yorkshire, never minded travelling up 'north but it was a fair trek from the SW.
When I flew with my dad, Cold War era so our area had four or more MATZ and if flying down to Thruxton for £100 fry up, even more. Ergo lots of penetration, some ATCs would get a bit miffed, if, after a third penetration, you didn't call them up to see how they were in a couple of days time, but hey ho, such is life🤣🤣🤣😇
Flying in Australia, we seem to have copied bits of both the UK and USA procedures. Our landing fees are similar to the UK. Our class D airports cost $$ for the privilege of visiting there. Our choice of cafes/restaurants at aerodromes is also limited. And similar to the US, us VFR pilots aren’t permitted anywhere near cloud without an appropriate IFR rating.
Why are there 2 altimeters in the plane?
Good morning from the UK :-)
Good morning!
In the UK it is: Welcome to the Clouds.
Hey great video! Could you please tell us what's the charts App the pilot is using in his ipad please? 💪🏽
Skydemon
I am in Orlando area, do you do flight training?! Love the channel
Oh boy, how complicated can we make this!
Squawk Conspicuity (what a mouthful) - actually is Squawk VRF or IFR your choice..... They should just go for Squawk VFR...
What is the fee for just starting your engine?
Are you still here? I'm flying Monday if you fancy a trip out.
Which app are you using on the iPad for flight planning?
Skydemon
There are around 28,000 private pilots in the UK (compared to maybe 600,000-700,000 in the US), so for every 4 US private pilots there is a single one in the UK per capita. Two reasons - nobody can afford to fly, and nobody can pass their written (or whatever 10 separate written exams one must pass in the UK). I can definitely see it in this video.
I go flying with mates which helps to spread the costs! The exams were not too bad, just so long as you study
Maybe you should come over here more often! 😂
I’d love to, Riley!
Great video Lewis! One question, being an American pilot with FAA licenses are you able to log flight time in the UK with a UK registered airplane? Furthermore, as a CFI can you log dual given to a pilot with UK licenses and/or the flip side around? Thank you!
There’s a validation process that I’d have to go through to be able to log any time in the UK, which is something I haven’t done. Maybe I will in the future but I certainly can’t instruct over there. For people coming to the US to get a piggyback FAA certificate it’s much easier and less restrictive.