I Punished a Chess Cheater!
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- čas přidán 22. 10. 2023
- Aman runs into a chess cheater while doing his Slowbrah rapid series!
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To play at 99% against a cheater is still incredibly impressive. GMs are really something else.
He did play a great game, and almost perfect, but that rook vs rook 50 moves endgame increases the final accuracy by 3% or 4%.
He had memorized all the engine best moves. He knew exactly what his opponent was going to play and the response.
Tbf Aman has beaten the engine before hahaha this isn’t his first rodeo with a cheater
Impressive
Brah putting up some Magnus numbers!
The man literally drew Stockfish with BLACK!
not stockfish 16 tho ig
@@rafaelpaquete3350 it makes absolutely no difference what version of SF this guy is using, SF has been superhuman basically since version 1
@@Algorhythm027 Stockfish 1.01 release 2008 , Rating: 2743 (compare to chessmaster software where they have 2700-2900 bots that play a bit under their rating at the time, like most 2300 elo humans can beat them, I've personally beat the first couple versions of Stockfish even if it took me hundreds or thousands of games, since I've been playing engines most my life (and I'm just 2100)) I think somewhere around Stockfish 6 or 7 it gets impossible to beat for me (3200-3300 if I remember correctly, I also cannot beat Chesscoms Max computer which is around the same strength, got several draws though against them), and Stockfish 8 or 9 by then is impossible for any human to beat and been 'superhuman' since then (and as you might know another 7 versions released since then lol)
But there's a lot of versions that are doable for advanced/expert/master players if you go way back.
Source for ratings: computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/index.html (scroll down to very bottom and you can find the older versions of Stockfish)
This was not SF, the cheater constanly played different moves than what SF wanted. It was probably Leela or something.
@@Algorhythm027 No Sf1 was still very materialistic and could be beaten just by strategy by Super gms. That is shown by for example SF 9 beating SF1 with rook odds! A whole rook is removed from SF9 and it still wins effortlessly. That shows that humans still have a chance. However any current engine sure is without human reach.
by some unbelievable miracle, this player, who has only started his career 4 days ago, had that exact position on his computer in the morning
Lol
Is this a tasteful Nieman deep cut here?
Unlikely things do happen.
The prep speaks for itself
@@gavasiarobinssson5108 yeah he's a cheater. No benefit of the doubt for him dude. When he wins world championship. "Alleged cheater wins world championship" will be headlines
Aman's deep understanding of the position and his memory are just unbelievable.
Also, he's probably the most entertaining yet educating chess streamer I saw.
not probably ...for sure and by far best chess entertainer
The glazing is crazy
Maybe could lose the irritating music…
Aman really faces stockfish and he’s like “I’m not afraid of you!”
This shows you prepared that line pretty well, if you can draw a higher level than Magnus opponent with it.
Indeed. "Higher level than Magnus" is even an understatement here.
No but the fact he recognized slowbrah account and did this is wild, "Am I playing against a well known streamer in front of a large audience?" "..." "hmm no reply, probably safe to keep cheating" guy is a schizo
He's probably close to being an absolute beginner in chess.
How is that 'schizo' though? Seems pretty random
"There's only TWO games in the database, and this guy's playing game #3, yea sure" lmfaooo
I am really fan on GM Aman. he is most entertaining and educating teacher
Aman you seem very happy in this vid, i like your energy a lot
we love seeing Aman happy 🥺
peepoHappy
Guy keeps taking so long to make his moves because he's chugging down monster after monster, he didn't cheat he just has so much Vitamin B12 his balls blew up and he momentarily became a god like intellectual, and you know it was the sugar filled monster as well.
I knew Aman is strong. But guys.. 99% is no joke..
u dont understand bro, because they played rook endgame until 50 move rule, they both get higher accuracy score because every move there is best
@@zada4a bro... I play those 10 out of 10 if i can. The result is like around 80% accuracy. Not 90, and not freaking 99.0% sir)
Can you imagine getting a DRAW against the ENGINE?? like forget the accuracy, aman literally MATCHED an engine user, holy crap
@@usualhumanxd353 dude obviously Aman said during this whole game that he studied this specific line and he knew the best moves. Then their already high accuracy got bumped by playing out to 50 move rule.
Watch what he says at the end at 50:11 "And we farmed our accuracy up to perfect by playing this game out", at this point you're arguing with GM Aman not me.
basically they both played engine moves, it wasnt Aman being smart and finding moves, it was him being prepared beforehand. If you engine Before the game and remember it, its allowed, but essentially this game was just engine vs engine until the endgame
your opponents speed tilts me so hard. Like how do some of these moves take so much time. So obv lol
gotta reach depth 30 lol
@@fittogan or just making it seem like he's "thinking" lol
All of the sudden the 1700 is making superbe Amazing Chess moves in the blink of the eye.... The entire first part of the match was all prep warmup stuff to his true GM capabilities 😂👍✅💯
Drawing stockfish is seriously impressive
Especially playing as black
Man's permanently tuned into sweaty FM and calls himself an anarchist on tinder with no pictures.
Gotta love that Aman is so funny as well as so strong bro. 99% is wow
Back in 2000-when I started playing online-cheaters were a problem. Not much has changed over the years.
I disagree. I play at 1880 and registered with Premium and I get a cheater notification once about every month. That is not a huge problem! It used to be worse but now it is much better.
@@Jartran72 Doesn't mean people are not cheating. They are just getting smarter about getting detected.
Real chads play on lichess
@@speedchessbattles4047 Doesn't mean not much has changed over the years, either. Problems like these won't just go away on their own.
@@KenderGuy Nope. Seems like a clash between man and machine code is eminent.
@7:52 The white Queen and Bishop threaton treason!!!
Feels like a chess meme.
Thats was tough.
Listening to this…
Do you have the video of the previous game in this line you played? I'm interested to see!
Putting theory and you to the test here.
Wow, so entertaining! The mood is so upbeat with Chessbrah too! BTW, what do you drink brah?
Get him outta here
How the hell did CB play a 99? That in itself is more incredible than anything about this video.
Guy just memorized the top computer line.
That's impressive. I mean, they made phone numbers 7 digits for a reason. :) @@felixb8418
Because of the drawn rook game. He had 50 moves that were always the top engine move because it just did not lose the game and remains completely drawn at 0.00, that plus the long drawn period before that. If you just don't make bad movs in drawn endgames you can farm tons of accuracy. Even sub 1000s get 99+ games when they play out drawn endgames for a 100 moves.
I'll take your word for it. I've never seen a sub 1000 get 99% on a 100 move game. @@Jartran72
@@felixb8418takes a cheater to know a cheater?
Ah the kinglarook, the legendary rook end game specialist
Aman and Stockfish, two similar guys
aman with the vibes per usual
It was all theory until it wasn't; and then the real choices were so few that the accuracy remained. Kudos that Chessbrah kept him from winning.
Aw man. I thought the dude was gonna blunder his rook at the end because of the title.
These beating chess cheater videos are pretty entertaining. More of the same please.
Moral of the story: GMs are scary good.
The increment was a bad idea.....
and i would have gotten away with it too.. just kiding .thank s for the upload
I give up with playing randos online, too many cheaters
dont worry bro, they are only on elos u never reach
What’s the name of the second song ???
What is the first music please??
41:22 when you pushed your pawn forward I'm pretty sure white had the opportunity to promote by offering a rook trade on b7. Whether you move your rook to check the king or the pawn doesn't matter because the king defends with b6. If you don't check again then they just promote in a few turns and if you do check again then they can just run under/around their rook and also promote. However I'm glad the cheater lost; they wouldn't have deserved that win.
What is the song that’s being played to start this video?
What is the song to start with please?
the cheater was as accurate as walter white's meth was pure
What elo do cheaters appear with greater frequency from? In your experience
The ending of the game was disrespectful af
There are ALOT of these kids out there, the best is when they're rated 700 and play 90+ accuracy, and I get destroyed playing with human accuracy, the incredible theory exists at much lower elo levels, check out every public tournament, a 400 elo is winning constantly, makes perfect sense, just fantastic
Actually I am around 1800 and I made some accounts just for fun that are 400-1k to play tournaments , I did not need to cheat at all because the players were actually bad but I gotta tell that there are many that does this because I recognized some players that have around 400 and played like 2k , it's normal . For tournaments it's actually winning fast , as fast as possible , playing with an engine just slows you , you can win way faster without looking at engine moves if you now basic errors that low elo players do
@@plresurectzbrokena4997 That is called smurfing, mate. It is strongly discouraged against.
more like cheater ate your time out
engine weak, Aman stronk
Name of the song 8:30 ?
what is the name of the first song? please anyone??
Not hard to tell a cheater when their moves of only a few seconds are just as strong as their moves that take several minutes. Pretty obvious.
The first time I heard hikaru say this guy's channel name, I thought he was talking about chestbrah, since I'm a gymrat.
Pooja's brother, back at it for revenge
in which chessable course could I find this line?
Aman, Is there ever any games you or Eric play were your opponent is not cheating, but genuinely under-rated and really good? I know you guys must face alot of cheaters. But what percentage would you say of the players who you suspect of cheating, do you think are just genuinely good at chess and know theory? Or is the reason you guys don't make videos title "Cheater is actually undercover GM!" Because you would recognise who it is? I've been wondering about this for a while.
I think there are key moments in games where a play is made that is just so inhuman, that it ought to be an engine.
Additionally, time spent per move is often telling. An “undercover GM” will do some moves basically instantly because they know it’s the only move. A cheater needs to wait on the engine to tell them that.
There was a moment at 8:26 where white just moves the Queen one square for 2 turns in a row. These are not moves any 1700 would know, so you’re either cheating or a secret GM. There is no way a 1700 studied that line.
Why would a GM spent these weirdly long amounts of time (2 or so minutes) for multiple moves in a row? It’s very weird and not always for a difficult move either (though I wouldn’t know that, I base that on Aman’s commentary). It reeks of cheating
a 1700 player actually winning against a gm is just as likely as a 400 winning against a 1700... no way it's just a matter of being under rated with such a disparity. Also, the time usage is usually a great tell
Plus 10 is a cheaters heaven
song name @ 29:30 ?
he just saw 200 points above, huge jump in the elo, let's cheat
Are you the chessbruh from RuneScape? That one guys friend? Level 3 firecapes and shit?
After their accounts are closed can they create new ones in which they can cheat again ?
quite easily, yeah
39:07 Theorically draw.
Still theory
He only miss Rd5 and he is going to win after that I think.
Well, at least cheaters provide some entertainment with videos like this. It's not all futility lol. Better get me that chessable course, looks like a strong choice :D
How did the system recognize that the cheater was cheating but also recognize that Aman was not? Was it because of the long time between moves? Is game history a factor? Presumably the system didn’t know Aman was a GM because it was a different account?
They take some out-of-the-board factors into consideration and the way they interact with the moves themselves, like the time between moves and the difficulty to find them. For example, if you consistently take 10-20 seconds to play insanely complicated moves and also forced moves, the algorithm gets really suspicious. They also take into account the number of times the user changed tabs during the game. I think the age of the account also plays a role, but I might be mistaken. If you come across the infamous report of Hans Niemann's games, they explain many of the factors in great detail.
Probably the game history. You do know that there is a team who looks at the history of a player especially the accuracy
whats with the music?
He punish Kh8 move with endgame.
was he using the enigma machine to cheat why is he so slow?
wait, at what point in the video do we show he`s a cheater?
I saw nf6 in the first game from Aman and got so hyped to finally see him maybe play the traxler counter attack oh well
It's very rare people play fried liver at 1700 level, and even less at stockfish level
Im surprised nobody has made a channel or account to specifically look for cheaters. Like if chessbrah had a separate account. And he only used stockfish to play. Anyone that can draw or win at a low elo must be cheating.
Aman 2024~! after that~!!!!
what are we hoping for? anything! natural disaster, internet going down....
On some giga sauce lol
Ummmm am I also gonna get banned because I got 96% accuracy 30 min ago 😅😅😅😢
might as well play computers you know what i mean..
Maybe it was either wrong or too simple, but what could have been missed was just as you finally decided too was Rc8, but then pushed the c pawn, and used your a pawn as bait to advance it out of the box!
But if the bait wasn't taken...
You may have dismissed that, for that reason, knowing better.
Are you really trying to tell a GM who just played 99% accuracy against a computer, what he may have missed!
@@Guitarpaul666GMs are still human ;)
@Guitarpaul666 Well, a Rook behind a passed pawn is a powerful weapon!
32:32 Ra8 Kh7 a7
Ni good at chess but why at 16.05 was RD1 not winning for black ?
I worked out why .. proud if myself lol
Why is it taking him so long to cheat???? It takes like 5 seconds to get the next move! (Not that I would know....). hahah
To not get detected.
report both.. xD
16:01 why not Rd8
so he can take the bishop back and not be losing material
@@WhyIsMyNameTakenwhat?
@@LlamaBGRd8 then Ne3 here.
But rd8 good move
@@xylentantivirus oh yeah, you're right, thanks
Does this mean you were cheating against a cheater
Uhh, 13:35 when u say u wonder if takes takes queen c2 is played..that seems normal to me. Nothing abnormal here.
How can u play 99,9% accuracry yourself lol, are u cheating too?
K.O.
Hey what's wrong with monster energy drinks?! I drink them all the time and I'm a pretty normal guy. Maybe I like the ladies more than most and had a couple runins with the law but I've grown and become a better person.
You're allowed to use engines vs GM smurfs
why is your account not being closed for cheating? you scored the same percentage
Because he wasn't taking 10 seconds to figure out that en passant was the best move.
Hans alt
Hey, what's the whole thing with the "Don't support these guys" thingy that I see on EVERY SINGLE vids? I simply just don't get it.
but the cheaters are getting so much attention, with the accounts with no links, and no identifiable information
meme
checking the database whilst playing is also cheating
I think Aman mentioned this was something he had seen from prep which is part of why he caught on to the cheating so quickly (and survived to a drawn endgame against the engine). I’m guessing that prep is how he recollected the number of games in the database with this line, but still impressive as hell he could recall of this! Just another reason why he is a GM and I am just a chess degenerate 😅
It's his prep.
cbrahBamboo
777
Hasn't Hans been punished enough?
Hans Niemann is not a cheater
@@Tom-hf4om
Huh... Interesting... That's not what Hans Niemann says! I think I'll take his word over yours...
@@quazzydiscman He cheated in the past in some online matches! but not in the OTB chess
@@Tom-hf4om tomato tomato
@@Tom-hf4om so you agree that he's a cheater then...
Dont support these guys. These "cheaters" are helping chessbrah at getting more viewers.
So what you ty no that you spend 1h to lern this and you arę special, because anyone in the Word couldnt lern this???
16:30
how is this worse for black? only black has a passed pawn