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In fact Greeks rebelled numerous times against ottoman rule, by one count as many as 155 times over 350 years.
182
123 times btw The first uprising took place on the Mani peninsula in 1481, when Korkodeilos Kladas and the fierce Mani fighters rose up against the Ottomans.
@malakas59 nope it was Georgios Kastriotis tou Ioanni the Greek Byzantine Prince of Epirus that was holding the new Epirus Byzantine borders with his Arvanite troops and Serbians 2nd was Kladas!!!
But none were organised well as the 1821 rebellion
@@wxrriorog3096 it was not organized it just happen
Greece is in fact a very unique country.
Imagine in the 30ies the country was governed by fascist dictator Metaxas who admired Hitler, yet when Italy and Germany wanted him to become their ally he refused, knowing this would lead to Italy attacking Greece. Greeks today celebrate the 28th of October as a national holiday to remember this "no" of their country towards Hitler and Mussolini's expansionism.
As a German who's been living in Greece for 20 years I have to say Greek culture is incredibly resilient to assimilation and submission.
Raising my children here I often was admired by Greek mother's for having such well behaved children. But they also stated that they would feel uncomfortable if their children were behaving that way, because they'd feel they suppressed their spirit of freedom. Hence Greeks contemporary admire Western Europe for its order and discipline and keep criticising their own culture for being chaotic and incoherent, but instinctively promote a culture of individual freedom and coexistence of opposites. It's actually this fragile balance between tradition and anarchy that in my eyes is the deepest force of the Greek nation and the reason why they've given the world so much culturally.
We've always straddled the East and the West but yes... contrarians since birth :D
I have never heard someone describe my culture in a better way. I have never understood my own culture that well, well done🫡🫡🫡🇬🇷🇩🇪
@@StergiosMekras είστε φανταστικοί ❤️
@@allstarlord9110 ευχαριστώ για τα καλά σου λόγια! Να'σε καλά ❤️
What is the definition of fascism and how was Metaxas fascist per that definition?
Greece is the only country in the world that celebrates the start of the war. Greece is a unique country that gave everything that the modern western world has ❤
Liberation continues....
True
Also the start of the war against fascist Italy (28th October 1940).
And the revolution against Ottoman Empire and the WWII!
Your thought is communist. Greeks celebrate the beginning of the liberation against the Ottoman empire after 400 years in 1821 and in 1940... we do not surrender ''OXI'' meaning ''NO'' and not the start of a war
Janissaries. The secret of today's Turkey identity. The majority of Janissaries were Greeks. These boys become slave soldiers and later they force to adopted Islam.Many modern Turks have Greek background. That's why we see many Turks made DNA test on CZcams videos and discovered Greek DNA is the majority of their self's and in many cases there not a single percentage of Turkish Dna on them. Also a significant number of Turks are traced their origins from other Balkan Countries.
the reverse is also true, many greeks have a turkish ancestor down the line. It doesn't really matter anyway, the only difference between them is religion and language.
@@user-sm1bi5ix6l thats factually wrong, there is almost non turkmen or any kinda of turkic DNA in Greeks genes. Yes, we have been admixtured with slavic populations during the early middle ages (which makes 10 to 30% of Greeks genetic pool) but the mixture with the Ottomans due to religion and political reality was an one way phenomenom, .i.e Greeks adopting the Turkish identity. All relevant litterature points to the same conclusion.
The ethnic make up of the Janissaries was evenly distributed among Bulgarians, Albanians, Bosnians, and Greeks.
@@user-sm1bi5ix6lNo it is not true. The Greeks did not mix with the Turks for cultural and especially religious reasons. Plus that the initial number of Turks that entered Minor Asia was very small compared to the ethnicities already were living there. The Ottomans apart from taking Janissaries, they would enslave Greek women from time to time. And also there were many thousands over the centuries who were forced to become muslims. Whole families did. Those were 100% Greeks (or other ethnicities) and the moment they changed religion they were considered as non Greeks by the Christian Greeks, so they changed side.
@@antoniosvidakis theres no 100% anyone. Greeks are not "pure". You are not "pure". You are half turkish/albanian/bulgarian/serbian.
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Jewish people at that time were collaborating very closely with the Ottomans,they were merchants and very powerful,and they were against every revolutionary try from the 15th century onwards..
Well sad
I didn't know that, but I'll have to check up on it.Dont forget the catholic church collaborated with the turks,same as western Europe.
@@jorgepeters7474Totally true
Thats why when Tripolitsa fell and the Greeks entered the city their Commanders said: "first you kill the Jews, then the Turks". Its all written down....
The Klephts and Armatoloi is basically the equivalents of the Pirates and Corsairs.
Only, living and operating on the mountains. Actual sea going pirates and corsairs were operating in the Aegean and the Ionian as well, Greeks, Turks and others.
Όταν πολεμάς να ελευθερώσεις την πατρίδα σου βλάκα δεν είσαι πειρατής αλλά ήρωας, όπως ήρωες ήταν οι Έλληνες που λόγω της δικής τους 6μηνης αντιστάσεως έχασε ο Χιτλερ τον πόλεμο. Αν είσαι από την φυλή του Χιτλερ ή την βρώμικη ασιατική μογγολική φυλή των Τούρκων το γιαυτο τα λες αυτά! Και που να δεις τι έρχεται στα κεφάλια σας ακόμη!
It was in 1481, just 28 years after the fall of Constantinople, when Korkodeilos Kladas and the fighters from Mani rebelled for the first time. Since that and untill 1821, 122 revolts against Ottomans followed. The 1821 uprise was the 124th.
Very true historical facts
Nope!! It was Georgios Kastriotis the Greek Byzantine Prince of Epirus with Ioannis Arianitis and Georgios Komninos who where keeping the new Epirus Byzantine borders until Kastriotis death!! Second came Kladas
As a Greek, thank you for your kind words. I'd love to see your perspective on the other videos too!
A Nation is not born when it's state (Kratos), it's born. A Nation is heroes, beliefs, ceremonies, language, values... They exist outside government or borders..
The Greek nation existed from the first day that we said, "We the Hellenes... " . And Unlike all other Nations in Europe, we have existed for thousands of years. Regarding the Ottomans, I am proud that One Nation - the Greeks defeated 70 other Nations under the term Ottoman Empire... This is the reason that the Turks are obsessed with us... We were the thread that dismantled their empire…and we will be the reason for the breaking up of the land they occupied to 3 Nation countries in the future.. Armenia, Kurdistan and ...
~7:00 Sparta is indeed in Mani. What the video didn't mention is that while Greece's motto is "Freedom or Death", Mani has a different one, "Victory or Death".
~24:30 Technically speaking, the Roman/Latin alphabet is based on ours, so... and yes. "unique" and "something else" are apt descriptors.
It aint based on yours.You use the athenian one and romans use the one that Civila tought them and Civlia was from Euboia so she taught them the Euobian alphabet.Every city had its own slightly different versions of ..well everything between them in the old Greek world.
Civila is the title and the name of the person that the anglosaxons call the oracle.
@@moutsatsosa both were variants of the same alphabet. it's not as if people from one place couldn't read the text from another and understand it.
@@StergiosMekrasThats what I wrote.Slight differences in the words in the letters but that obviously didnt make them incomprehensible to others.We call them idioms and they are more precicelly described by the words topological whims.
Maniates to 1821 they say we're children of the Spartans no romie! Romie means Christians from Roman citizen. And become Christian after 10 Century
Sparta isn't in Mani
The religion freedom wasnt actually so simple. it was a forced choise "u can speek ur native language or be christian not both".In some regions in Turkyei there are ppl that speek pontiaka ( an evolution of ancient greek mixed with turkish words and expresiions).Kolokotronis was 50 years old at 1821 and Diakos was impalled and burned. Many women wore leaders (mostly in naval warfare through their late husbbands wealth) like Bouboulina and Mayrogenous.Many educated ppl from Britain was actually helpfull to greeks through FIliki Etairia (one of them is Lord Byron, the poet.) Many ppl still give the name Byronas to their children .
Pontiaka is a greek dialect of the greeks of pontus which most of them were kicked out of Turkey during the 1920s along with the genocide of Armenians during the transition of Turkey from the Ottoman Empire into the Turkic Nation and country. In order to create the country of Turkey, Kemal Ataturk and the turks kicked out or slaughter anybody else. Greeks of Pontus that decided to stay in their lands had to convert to Islam in order to stay. Big Example is Erdoğan who's grandfather was a Greek from Pontus.
Jewish people, took the side of ottomans, in pelloponese, during the Greek revolution. And so, they had the fate of the ottomans., as Greeks gained their independence.
From the three revolution leaders that the video kept depicting over and over again, Kolokotronis is the most celebrated in Greece today as the biggest hero of those times.
He was even depicted on Greece's biggest value monetary bill (paper money) before Greece changed in to Euro. (there was a bigger bill released later but it lasted only a few years).
He even lived long enough to see a liberated Greek state.
Even though the Greek government at the time treated him like a criminal and imprisoned him Greece celebrates him as the number one revolutionary hero and as one of the best Greek Generals of all time, the guy was brilliant on the battlefield and his enemies thought that he was some kind of an invincible monster.
Kolokotronis is the biggest leader and hero! for those who want to get further to learn about his teacher...Kapetan Zaxarias ...the fearless man .
Dna statistics of modern day Greeks show that they are related close to 90% to ancient Greeks..
Facts and theyrs a reason
Something that I assume many people are unaware of, including many Greeks, is that throughout Greek history, whether we're speaking about Classical, Roman, Ottoman or subsequently modern Greece, is how fractioned Greek society always was based on localism. This characteristic has survived from Ancient Greece to modern times and in my opinion has served as our downfall in many instances. In antiquity, there was no unified Greek state, but a bunch of city states squabbling with each other, until Alexander the Great forcibly unified most of them. Then he died and his empire IMMEDIATELY split into three lesser empires which were eventually taken over by Romans and Persians.
That's part of the reason why you see so many different groups, fighting each other in bloody classes or even civil wars during the Greek War of Independence. Especially groups like the Maniots are still fiercely localist to this day. You can argue they view themselves as Maniots first and Greeks second.
cut the BS
Sorry but you forget that only two things separate nations language and history.... If you know all the Greek History perfectly and correct and you speak the Greek language more then accurate then you are Greek... So simple ... Aristotelis told that the teacher of Great Alexander.... So all the cities spoke Greek and know the same history... So all of them was Greeks.... Thanks a lot...
@@panosls08 Greek identity has indeed been a thing since antiquity, no one denies it. I am talking about how Greek societies were riddled with dissonance and fragmentation from antiquity to date on a political and societal level. This is why ancient Greece was separated into city-states with completely different political structures which were only unified when Alexander came along and essentially forced Greeks into one empire/state.
There is a mistake in tge map. The Ionian islands were never part of the Ottoman empire but were part of Venetian territories, then French for a short period then British until ceded to the new Kingdom of Greece in the 1860s
Apart from Corfu (Kerkyra), every other major Ionian island was occupated at some point by Turks. Though not late, close to 1800s. For example, Lefkada was ruled approx. 200 years by Ottomans and Kefallonia was only occupied early in the 1400s.
Same applies to a large number of Aegen islands. The Cyclades. And to a certain degree Crete too.
9:09 Kapodistrias my beloved 😍
Around 4,500 Greeks had served as light infantry 'Aegean Volunteers' including Theodorakis Kolokotronis with the British Army in the Peninsula War fighting Napoleon under the Duke of Wellington
The Greek Navy was led by Laskarina Bourboulina; the first Greek female 'admiral', who would later serve as a member of the Greek Parliament, at a time when women of course couldn't vote
Greece is a very unique country
Greek history is one of the longest if not the longest one.
The first Greek revolution started early after the ottoman invasion(28-30 years after the fall of Constantinople)
All the Greek revolutions were ceased by the ottomans. It was the 124th in 1821 that was the successful one.
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the later Ottoman Janissaries remind me of the Roman Praetorian Guard.
Difference is Praetorians weren't abducted children who were unwillingly converted to islam without being being given the chance to choose if they wanted to serve in this guard.
The patriarch whom the Ottomans hanged as soon as the revolution began was Greek and not Russian. The Patriarch of the orthodox church was and he is always Greek. His body was bought by the Jews and they spread it in the streets of Constantinople from half to Christianity. In Tripolitsa, when the Greeks conquered it from the Turks, they massacred together with the 8000 Turks and Jews who were always with the Turks. Before they took the city, the Turks, together with the Jews, had gathered all the prominent Greek people and their children in the area and locked them in basements to prevent an uprising. most of them died of hardship. Therefore half of the Greeks against the Jews was the same as that against the Turks. Several years earlier, another Greek pope who today is celebrated as a saint, who traveled around Greece and taught the Greek language, was hanged by the Turks and the Jews gutted him, filled his skin with straw and carried him from village to village to scare the Greeks. The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia, Ioannis Kapodistrias, was Greek and later became the first governor of Greece. He also made the constitution of Switzerland that they have until today. Kapodistrias and the Austrian Metternich were the two great personalities of that time. Metternich was against every revolution and therefore also the Greek one and he strongly supported the Turks.
Kosmas Aetolos body was thrown in the river but he was hunged because of the jews but you are confusing him with Dionisios Philosofos who met such fate by the turks after jews betrayed him or someone else who had that end ,turks did that to rebel bodies
@@petrospetromixos6962 Οι τουρκοι γύριζαν τα κομμενα κεφάλια και οχι τους γδαρμενους γεμισμένους με άχυρα, αυτο ήταν τεχνη των εβραίων συμμαχων τους και ο λογος ήταν απλός. Οι Εβραιοι ήθελαν τους μπουνταλάδες τουρκους για να κρατουν αυτοι στα χερια τους το εμποριομκαι για τον ιδιο λογο δεν ηθελαν τους Ελληνες που ήταν έξυπνοι έμποροι. Και ο Κοσμας ο Αιτωλος ειχε την ιδια τυχη με τον Διονύσιο τον λεγομενο απο την εκκλησία σκυλοσοφο, τον οποιον κοσμα ο ιδιος ο Αλη πασας δεν ετόλμησε να πειράξει παρά μονον εμεσα μεσω των εβραίων
Where can i read about this?
The Jews have a habit of betrayal especially if money is involved greedy no honour shameful nation no better than the Turks
The monarchies of Europe were still quite afraid that something like revolutionary France and Napoleon would happen again.😅
22:00 yes, the Russians just used is for their advantage
ah, the Maniots. I know them. Napoleon's dad was from there. Same region as Sparta.
17:37 In short, eventually jannisary system was expanded, but it was always just a small part of turkish forces, which relied mostly on provincial forces, levies. As ottoman empire didnt progress much, these forces eventually became inadequate in both skill and number, so sultans kept expanding janissary force, but eventually they ran into trouble finding recruits without resorting to essentially mass kidnapping, so they decided to allow muslims to enter ranks of janissary corps, then they allowed children of jannisaries to enlist, they relaxed discipline on jannisaries possesing property, opreating businesses etc.
Meternich is one of the most hated men in history for us Greeks. Also the video leaves a lot of harsh realities of war. Tortures and rapes from Turks. MAssacre of Hios for example or the torture of Athanasios Diakos who was impaled for 20 hours and tortured pulling his intestines and knitting them slowly to prolong his torure and many many many more. Hellenic nation is modern but the civilaization is the oldest survivng in the world. The alphabet was passed to roman and slavs these gave it to others. The Hellenes of the past were the cream of academics in every aspect to Math philosophy religion warfare to sex and food. Christianity stepped on neo platonic philosophie and the first church and gospels were in Greek. Budhism art was influenced from the Bactrian Kingdom the Greek Kingdom of one of Alexander the Great general who made the first ever statue of Budha the Apollo Budha. Every wikipedia article starts or at least mentions the Greeks. Any aspect of the know world started, studied or messed around because of Hellas. The influence is everywhere in this planet. From the stars to the core of the earth. Peace and love to everyone
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Jewish in ottoman empire always cooperated with the Turks against the Greeks. In some occasions jews slaughter Greeks, under Ottoman guidance. Thats why kolokotronis punished them
Nicely compiled video with historical details and facts. Very nice video!
The greeks from the first time of conquer and when the darkness arrived in their homes.
The life was stopped .
Continually tried several revolution s
First they fled to venice and to all eutope with amount of knowledge and so started the renesansance
When the books transleted,
Millions of millions of greeks died in the all revolutions
10:25 Yes Greece is separated by much time from antiquity, but not from the history that came after. The Byzantine empire was ended in 1453, that is 40 years before the discovery of the americas. And the Greeks ended the occupation in 1821. So Greece was 370 years under occupation by foreigners.
can you react to modern day greece political crisis with turkey,albania,skopje? the crisis is also kind of based from back then
I suggest you see the complete version wich features some battles
Napoleon had in mind to help Greece. He had correspondence with the prerevolutionary enlightener Regas Feraios
The Greeks nation survive from Persians,vikings, Roman's, Ottomans,Bulgarians,Germans,Italians. so many wars and we are still here 💙 🇬🇷 💙
22:45 jews were the best allies of ottomans in the greek area. Revolutionaries knew that. They never fight against greeks in arms but they helped them during all the ottoman period. Let me give you one example. In Epirus there was a hero who revolt against ali pasa (albanian leader of an area)
When the hero died, jews buy his dead body and they charge the greeks to visit his body so they can see their hero and they charge Muslims to visit and spit his dead body.
The only nation in the the world that revolt and didnt liberate its capital
the jewish were very good friends with te ottomane
To understand why no European country or power wouldn't help us back then you have to understand the history prior to all this and frankly this is something that people forget. Prior to us Revolting against the Ottomans there's been a whole host of things that directly threatened the ruling class. First was the French revolution (May 5 1789 - Nov 91799) which as we all know took the lives of Royals which hasn't happened for quite a while. It was unheard of! After that ended then Napoleon came to power (May 18, 1803 - Nov 20, 1815) which also threatened the very fabric of their lives and the rule. Add in the mix the Russian expansionism and presto! You have their not just indifference but their downright hostility towards us and our cause. Fun face the man in 14:28 is actually my great great great great grandfather from my father's father side. His name was Nikolaos Mitropoulos and he's holding one of the first flags. He put that flag after the battle of Salona (Today it's called Amphissa) which was the first major battle they won in March 27th in 1821. On my father's mother side we are from the Kapodistria family.
The Je ws were the torturers of the turks ,it has been said that Greeks hated them because they fought for money while Greeks fought for their freedom, they were a minority that aided the turks and became rich from the greek enslavement through out the aeons of Ottoman rule, they acted as spies as well. Jews commited different atrocities during the revolution and took part in the slaughters, like burning 60 villages in Macedonia causing the rebellion to fail there ,they did slaughter in Naussa or throwing parts of a priest from a castle saying eat meat Greeks. It is said in Tripolitsa if a greek was about to kill a turk and saw a jew he left the turk and went for the jew
Freedom or Death is the motto of Greeks
I like your videos because there is something to learn from....not like other people who are reacting to nonsense!
free greek konstantinupolis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
istanbul*. cope
@@user-sm1bi5ix6l Konstantinopolis, Istanbul is also a Greek name . You belong to us
hoping you do another one of these
Maniates..People from Mani. Ancient Sparta and Southward is our home! Our time for resistance is coming again... Thank you for showing the World our History..
14:47 Arvanites and albanians have nothing in common, and albanians have never fought with greeks. Arvanites are from the area of thesprotia. On the contrary albanians have been transfered by ottomans from Dagestan as servants to ottomans and later the ottomans put them inside greek communities and gave them ranks so they can control the greek communities for the ottomans interests.
Hahahahah how does it feel when all you heroes are Albanian 😅
@@fightingstatus-IQ History is facts. You can try all you want to propagate, all you do is humiliate your nation.
p.s. Leave california maps alone, you are not illyrian
@@hristossed4950 bro hahahaha the whole world admits that Albanian warriors liberated Greece from Turks ☺️
Just accept the truth mate.
Maybe one day Albania and Greece will unite and will use as a first language the arvanitika language
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how can greeks from antiquety to byzantium and modern times have so amazing history. . . .?
It is the location my firend. Stategic for everyone that wanted access from East to West and vice versa.
The jews were supporting the ottoman empire's rule that's why they were attacked.
Jewish or Greek collaborators of Turks after the MASSIVE killings that ottoman started used unfortunately as retaliation ... but nothing to compare . Soon after anrgy Greeks stopped those things nothing to compare with the genocides that ottoman created
as greek i thank you and the USA for making our story heard
Jewish was allied with ottomans that's why Greeks attacked them.
24:26 Actually, you're using a part of our alphabet too!
yes we are an amazing stepping stone for docudramas! Nonetheless our forefathers where badasses when cooperating with each other! (in hiundsight this is not the last civil war the Greeks would wage)
Read about the heroes you will find a lot of leonidas you didn’t know about
Read about diakos for instance
Or Georgios Karaiskakis and his "polite" ways 😂
First resistance battle rpafter the fall of kostantinopoli
Krokodilos kladas
After the fall people moved to Venice and made the Greek brotherhood of st George in Venice the Greeks knew about their identity before the 19th century st George in Venice
is still there open for the people Greek patriarch of Italy is there
now behind st Marcus in Rio greco
Mavrokordatos the shame of the Greek cause and a modern Efialtes
hello from greece :)
I am from mani and yes we are proud to be born at hellas🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Michael soutsos wasn't a prince of vlachia but a ruler and a interpreter.
The Jew's people allied with the ottomans so...
21:45
The main reasons the European countries didn't want the Greek revolution initially were 2:
1) The Napoleonic Wars had just ended and the countries had agreed to keep things steady for as long as possible.
2) A revolution against such a messy Ottoman empire could potentially cause the empire's complete disbandment, which in turn could cause more wars about how the lands would be distributed.
22:30
The Jewish and Ottomans were alleys. As for "civilians", they just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. When Greeks decided to initiate their fight for freedom, they had been enslaved for 4 centuries and didn't have the time of their life, as one can imagine. Those people were ready to die in order to achieve their goal. Their slogan was "freedom or death", there were no middle ground. This mindset is what led them to certain actions that both back then and today were and are considered absolutely unorthodox.
Excellent video
There is evidence suggesting that Napoleon was of Greek heritage, his family were nobles of the Eastern Roman Empire that found their way first to Mani and then to Corsica. He was educated in Greek and corresponded with his sister in Greek. He mentioned many times about his plans of liberating Constantinopole, though there is little other direct mentioning of any plans regarding Greece. You are right the way they shaped the nation and the constitution was influenced by the American revolution, though the first Greek constitution was the most liberal you can find, which is impressive when you think it was formulated by backwards almost primitive people, that most had very little education. One of the first countries that they reached in order to gain recognition was the United States, and there were quite a few American volunteers which is impressive when you think of the times, the state of the US then, and the distance...
Klepths are like thief of the age.
A story similar to that of the janissarys is that of the Russian streltsy, who, among other things, were responsible for the guard duty in Kremlin.
They staged an unsuccessful rebellion against Tsar Peter the Great in 1698 which was brutally crushed with many of the survivors tortured and executed. Tsar Peter then disbanded the streltsy corps completely.
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"What did the Jewish people do?" - They where the main slave dealers in the Ottoman empire, so they where selling for half a millennium Greeks at the slave market...
The guy doesn't know very well the history; he says that modern Greeks were not descendant from ancient Greeks, which is incorrect. The Greeks were descendants from ancient Greeks; they spoke the Greek language and had the same names, and a DNA test shows that we are descendants from the ancient Greeks.
We are Greeks (Hellines) we will never lose!
With all respect the words are :Kleftes, Armatoloi and Maniates . The word Kleftes comes from the verb Klevo that means to steal…. And yes they were stealing in order to survive….
Can u continue with the islamic expansion series by kings and generals, u had finished season 1, so i would recommend checking season 2.
The Hellenic christian identity comes from the Nicaean empire, that was formed after the first fall of constntinopole around 1204.
Armatoli = the armed ones
Kleftis = robbers
Jews didn't want greeks to win the war and the reason was that they wanted a piece of Greece to become their new " Israel" ( they had been chased from Spain, remember for the same reason )
They played a bad role during the revolution, basically snitching the revolutionaries to turcs.
They also always had arguments with the christians. Christians wanted to have sundays a non working day for worship, while jews wanted sundays to remain what they had become , days where big bazaars were happening in cities. They wanted sunday to be a day of commerce.
These are among the basic reasons revolutionaries were against jews. Because they were collaborating with turcs
What's most interesting is how Kolokotronis actually saw the modern Greeks not as ancient Greeks but still instead Byzantines (Romans)
During a meeting with one British politician, he made reference to how they would never surrender just like 'our Basileus' (king/emperor).
The Brit politician was taken back and confused, as Greece had never actually had a united king/emperor (most western Europeans focused more on ancient Greece than Byzantine Greece)
It was only then he realised that Kolokotronis was talking about the last Byzantine emperor, Constantine XI, and that Kolokotronis and many early revolutionary leaders saw themselves as Romans/Byzantines.
In a sense, the modern Greek identity that focused more on the ancient Greek world was only adopted to attract the western powers support, as the west idolised classical Greece and not medieval Greece.
It was more than that. It wasn’t just to attract the westerners, but it was the work of the Greek intellectuals who wanted to remind us of our ancient ancestors.
@@allstarlord9110 Aye, that was a factor too.
Generally though, the Greeks outside of Greece focused more on the ancient pagan Greeks, while the Greeks within Greece focused more on the medieval Christian Greeks.
The eventual independence of Greece then led to both this outside glorification of the ancients and inside glorification of the Byzantines/Romans merging into the modern Greek identity we have today.
@@onemoreminute0543 You nailed it. Nowadays people here including myself identify more with the ancient Greeks rather than the Byzantines. It’s all part of our heritage but it’s interesting how notions of identity can shift through time.
@@allstarlord9110 Yeah, I mean I'm half Greek myself but I never heard anything about the Byzantines growing up and instead it was all about Leonidas and Alexander.
Granted, I do come from a non Orthodox background, which is where I still think the Byzantine identity still plays a part - in regard to religious Greek identification. But yeah, the classical world definitely seems to be talked more about in general these days in Greece.
@@onemoreminute0543 It does play a part but not as much. The ancient heroes and philosophers are more inspiring. Also since we call ourselves Έλληνες again, it’s easier to form an immediate connection to your mind. And it’s our deepest roots no matter how you look at it. The Byzantines were the sequel that was ehh ok…
Kleftes is Kreptes in another greek dialect, synonym to crypto. Goes back to the god Hermes who was the protector of Kleftes/kreptes. Kleftes are people operating in secrecy, has nothing to do with stealing.
The island of Corfu should not be purple. It was never conquered by the Turks.
Shortly "Klephts" means Κλέφτες or Stealers
The russian alphabet has similar letters
To answer your questiom: Absolutly, Napoleon would have campaigned first against the Ottoman Empire had he not been entangled by the AustroHungarian Empire, the British, the Prussins and Russian. France was preempted by the other Ruropean powers because they were feraed France under Napoleon would gain supremacy in Europe at their expense and dimishing their realm.
"not well run machines" do not last centuries...
21:55 Russian's stance in regards to greek-russian relations is a mess. Czar Alexander the first and Catherine the Great are the only two modern Russian leaders that had a pro Greek stance. After that Russia status quo came back to their jealous anti-greek sentiment. The problem was and always is the legitimacy of the ecumenical patriarch, leader of the eastern orthodox church, which still resides in Constantinople. Russia wants the title of the leader of the orthodox nations so a Greek state is only relevant to them as a dissonant to the region.
22:31 Unfortunately Jews assisted the ottoman rule during the revolution . Jews in Greece through out history had a pro-state sentiment in every revolution or campaign Greeks had (1821, 1893-1912, 1920, etc).
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I'm not sure who wrote the text in this video, but it has nothing to do with reality. Read the Historians "The Greek Revolution: A Critical Dictionary" edited by Paschalis M. Kitromilides.
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As a Greek there is lots of wrong historical information!!
jewish in south greece are with the ottomans, but in north jewish help the greeks and the jewsh comunities hate them becose they help us, in this time or you are with us or against us. that simple no hate to jewish people frok greece, not personal or ethnical just war
Awsome video... most dead on, not all... russia didnt help cause they are acully kazar jew turk mix ... things get deeeeep
22:35 jewish were worse than ottomans in greece, the greeks had had enough with them
They got kids for soldiers forcefully yet they're surprised when they see their DNAs nowdays being some of it Greek DNA no shit Sherlock what did ya expect 🤣
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If greek independence its true then why americans control that country with millitary bàses ???????😅
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Religious freedom wasnt entirely as it sounds. Because on one hand you had the right to keep yiyr own religion but on the other ifnyou werent muslim you were look upon as inferior than a muslim citizen.
Romans. ..Nope...Ρωμη romi...is the Greek word for bravery and power, never the Hellins called their shelf Romans as if they were Italians...shame on you 😂 also nope not Greece or Greeks...that's a name foreigners gave : Ελλάδα, Hellas...E λληνες Ellines .
I was enjoying this until you started going on about the poor Jews and how they can't catch a break. Under the Ottomans in Greece, the Jews did very well at the expense of the Greeks. The worst part of it is, in the dead of night, Jews would go out and paint crosses on the houses of Greeks and Armenians, to show the Ottomans that Christians lived there. There are usually many reasons why a race is persecuted throughout its history and usually because of its own actions. Don't just jump on the 'They are victims' bandwagon - do some research before opening your mouth.