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How To Size A Ring Up
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2015
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In this video, Professor John Ahr of the Online Jewelry Academy demonstrates how to increase the size of a ring using basic soldering techniques.
Even if you aren't looking to make a living from preforming repairs, it may be necessary for you to correct the size of a ring. This video covers the basic steps of the sizing up process and provides you with the rules for ring sizing. In a related video, Professor Ahr demonstrates how to size a ring down to decrease its size.
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Thank you sir
Iam a Jeweller from Egypt and enjoy watching your tutorial ❤
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching! 😀
Wayyyy to buffed to be a "professor"!!! Hot Hot Hot!! (I hope that makes you feel a zillion bucks!!) You rock!!
Answer this to your subscribers: "What exercises do you do at the bench to stay so buffed?" (wink, wink!)
LOVE the helpful info, it's so great to have this good basic and important information in such a delightful venue! Rock ON!
+Gabby Flying Chef
OMG Gabby! You're too much. Thank you for all the flattery and kind words. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Thanks for being a loyal viewer! : )
I have recently and nervously proposed to my fiance, had to get her ring sized. While I am waiting to get the ring back. I suddenly realized... "hey, I dont even know how they size rings." And now I am here. Thank you for this video. I love how you're not condescending, but very informative.
Congratulations! I hope that the two of you have many wonderful years together. Thank you for the compliment. I try to be the sort of instructor that I wanted when I was in school. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Thanks for your support! : )
What would you size is the most someone could go up when using this method?
I recall someone say the most a ring could go Up is 4 full sizes, but wonder if it could go up more? And wonder if it's the same case when going Down.
It really depends on what the dimensions are of the materials you’re using to increase the size of the ring. Personally, I would only size a ring up to sizes. And, don’t forget, if there are stones in the ring you can only expand or decrease the size so far before the stones are affected. Thanks for watching! 😀
I enjoy watching your videos!
Glad you’re enjoying the videos. Thanks for watching!😀
Thank you .This video was great!
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching!😀
Thanks for the idea sir
I hope the knowledge helps you to please your clients and make money. Thanks for your support. 😀
can we all help you with your wardrobe? Those colors are ......BRIGHT!
+Gabby Flying Chef
Hi Gabby, Is there a problem with my wardrobe? LOL! Glad that you caught our attempt at keeping things fun.
Happy 2016!
l̤̮㋡l̤̮ I think fun •¢σѕ in same way email said help with wardrobe but if wasn't fun you can't win as one black or bright so you can only laugh anyway ´◔ˬ◔ˋ ツ
Thank you so much for your help. It is much appreciated.
You're very welcome Anna. I hope you can get that ring to fit.
This video was great! May I suggest including a list of the tools used in the description box? ie: grit of buff stick, type of copper, ring mandrel, type of flux, type of solder, etc?
Hi Jessica, I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for your suggestion.
Thanks for your support! : )
I have a large nuckle due to arthritis so I need the large ring to get it over. However, the other side of my finger, where the ring sits, is much smaller. Any ideas?
YES! You can add two metal spheres about 2.5mm in diameter, soldered approximately 4mm apart, to the interior of the shank of your ring. You'll still be able to get it over your knuckle and it will sit a little snugger.
Thanks for your support! : )
You can get a goldsmith to integrate a hinge and a clasp into the ring, it's the most safe and comfortable solution in the long run.
great video
Vladimir Kovacevic Thank you! I’m glad that you enjoyed it.🙂
Hi! I'd just like to say I've learned almost everything from you over the last 6 months and I'm making beautiful metal jewelry now. Thank you :) May I ask what precautions I should take while sizing a ring with a stone? Is it too risky? Could I take the stone out before I size the ring? Thanks!
Yes, you should take the stone out of the ring before sizing it. Thanks for letting me know that the OJA has helped you to pursue your passion to make jewelry. : )
Very useful indeed. Thank you
+Helly Edney
Hi Helly, Yay! I'm happy that you found the video useful. That's the point of making them and putting them on CZcams.
Thanks for watching! : )
Synchronicity! I was just wondering what sizing stock was, and couldn't figure it out, even with Google - then decided to watch this video in my queue. So thanks!
I have two questions.
1) How is sizing stock different from sheet or wire metals? (Or is it just sold in smaller amounts?)
2) Do you have tips and tricks (maybe a future video?) for capturing metal filings, for the purpose of trading in for refinement?
Thanks!!
+jaykay415
Hi JayKay, Sizing stock is different from other metal products in that it is milled to specific sizing requirements. You can buy it in 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, and full size increments. That way you save time trying to make a small piece that's the "goldilocks" or "cinderella" size that fits your client just right. As far as capturing metal filings or "lemel" goes, most jewelers rely on the "sweeps drawer" on their bench to catch this material. If you're not working at a jeweler's bench, you can attach a piece of leather or vinyl to the bottom of your work surface that extends out under your bench pin and onto your lap. Just remember to empty the contents of the hide/vinyl into a container every time you need to get up from the bench. When you have a big bucket full of sweeps, you can take them to your local refiner for processing.
Thanks for watching! : )
+OnlineJewelryAcademy thanks for the great idea about the vinyl. My work bench is a big beautiful desk, and it's missing its middle drawer, which could work for a catch-space, I think. I can sit at two heights, so it works nicely for me.
And the sizing stock, I get it now. Thanks!
Hi! Are you sawing at such an almost 45 degree angle because of something in your way below the sawing area, like a catch tray, or drawer? Or is that how you like to saw? I thought we should try to be more vertical? Great resizing tips! Also, your rawhide mallet sounded so nice and soft. What's your favorite way to prep a new one for use? Thanks!
Hey Huskyfluffy, You're very observant. There was stuff in the way that prevented me from sawing in the correct position. Plus, there are wheels on the legs of the bench in the videos. So, I have to be careful not to push it away while we're filming. I never really prep rawhide mallets. They're already soft enough to work with when they're new. Of course, they will soften up the more you use them.
Thanks for your support! : )
hello john Ahr , i really like your videos they are really helpfull !!! , i have a litle problem in polishing , i have use soap and then dry red roose but i dont get the results i want, ps. i work with silver..... thanks !
+Kirito kun
The OJA has a video on the Principles of Polishing. You'll find it in the playlist on our website at: www.onlinejewelryacademy.com It should help answer your polishing questions.
Thanks for watching! : )
Hi professor John, what type of solder and what type of Flux did you use? I had a thin gold ring with an amethyst stone that was professionally downsized too much, and now I need to up size it. Anyways, I might try to up size it some day. I only work with copper and silver, but I might make an exception, so I can fix this ring my mother gave me when I was 16. I think it's 18k. Does the small segment need to be the same karat type as the rest of the ring?
Hi Ingrid, The metal inserted into the ring shank to size the ring up should be of the same karat as the rest of the ring. You'll need solder of the same karat and color as well. Be sure to remove the stones before you begin working. Otherwise, you will break the stones. There are flux mixtures that are formulated for use with gold. But, they aren't that different from the flux that you normally work with to solder silver and copper.
Thanks for your support! : )
So if this sizing stock adds one full size, does the thinner one add 1/2 or 1/4? Thanks for this. I bet the piece would be a lot smaller for precious metal!
+Dharlee Minter
Hi Dharlee! We haven't heard from you in a while. Thanks for posting a comment.
I hope that you are looking forward to a happy holiday season.
The answer to your question is... Sizing stock comes in various size increments. And, it's only sold in precious metals like gold, silver and platinum. So, specific sizing stock wires to suit your needs are priced according to the metal they are composed of. You can look on-line at various metals suppliers websites and see what I mean more clearly.
Thanks for sticking with us all this time. You're loyal viewership means a lot to us.
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love how you handled the silly question 👍
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching! 😀
I am looking for someone in my area to help me with this hands-on, but I do not know where to search or who to ask? can you lead me in the right direction?
Community colleges and recreation centers are always a good place to connect with people who share similar interests. A local gallery might also know of a jeweler who hosts workshops. But during the pandemic you might have difficulty connecting with an instructor. Good luck! 🍀
Can a oxidized silver ring be resized?
Yes. But heat from the resizing process will remove some of the patina. 😀
@@OnlineJewelryAcademy Thank you very much for the reply☺
I guess I got deep into yoututbe today, but holy wow. This vid is incredibly detailed and well-presented. Awesome.
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching! 😀
Would a jeweler do this with a 9k gold ring if I requested a one-size up ? Thank you!
It depends on the ring. If it is just a simple band, the jeweler would anneal the ring and stretch it. If the ring carried a stone, the jeweler might employ this technique. 😀
hahaha don't judge a man's wardrobe by their youtube cover. awesome colors in your wardrobe!
Hey Allen, It's nice when a viewer sends me a comment to let me know that they got a laugh out of an OJA video.
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I don’t care about what you wear or which of the two genders you are. Keep making good videos.
Thanks. We'll keep making the videos. By the way, looking back on that video, the build up to the JOKE was too long.
Thanks for your support! : )
I have been practicing with gold. Haven't tryed bronze or silver.
Gold is fairly easy to work with. But, it's expensive. You won't want to waste your time trying to metalsmith with bronze. But, silver will offer you many creative opportunities. : )
LOLOL. So rude. You tell her John!
its a stoneless band so why do you not just use a ring strecher or sizer or even use just a mandrel and heat
The demonstration was preformed on a stoneless band. But, the technique can be performed on rings with stones or other surface features. 😀
@@OnlineJewelryAcademy do not know what made me ask that. i did not even think of it that way. sorry to have bothered you with a dumb question my friend. buy the way its great to see you are well with whats going on. you videos help me out a lot at times sinc know more then i do. i am still a amature.
@@vorkev1 No problem. Your question revealed to me that you’re really thinking like a jeweler. I’m glad that the OJA videos provide you with a welcome distraction during these tough times. Stay well. 😀
Please don't do it like this !!!..... its terrible! Online jewelry academy??? are you serious?
You have do make a better joint - not only put a piece of metal in! Best ting is a double V Form ant the Ring and the negative ones at the peace that get in!
So it stays there! heat the whole ring ( especially when its silver) for soldering, with a good torch!
Afterwards DON'T remotve everything with the file .. takes 2 years... and you have filedust everywhere. Take at first the saw, and only for the fine work, take the file!
If you don't want to see the joint afterwards, you have to use a very hard solder ( i make myself every Solder for these things! ).
best regards ....
Hey Christiaaaaaan, The mission of the OJA is to provide beginning jewelers with a basic understanding of the tools, materials and concepts that they will need to be successful. So, we are serious. While we appreciate the fact that you took the time to post your comment, please keep in mind that this is a starting point for many beginners. And, your comments repeat some of the same information in the video. Good luck with your creative pursuits.
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You're adorable
My mom thinks so too. But, she thinks my brother is too. Nice to be singled out for a change.
Thanks for your compliment and support! : )