Eastman E20D VS E20D-MR-TC VS Bourgeois Touchstone | Blind Comparison

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  • @CarolDailey
    @CarolDailey Před rokem +15

    I picked the Eastman MR-TC as my first choice (I liked the note clarity), followed by the Bourgeois, then the Eastman E20D. You guys play great!

  • @robinowens9661
    @robinowens9661 Před rokem +11

    Don’t let the nay sayers get to you Jeremy. Talk, talk, talk… all guitar, all the time. Love the reviews. You guys are my go-to guitar reviewers.

  • @WoodworkerDan
    @WoodworkerDan Před 7 měsíci +4

    My favorite is the E20D, which kind of surprised me. I played the blind test several times, and each time I played it the E20D sounded better.

  • @darrelljordan3470
    @darrelljordan3470 Před rokem +6

    I love what you guys do!! You guys don’t hold nothing back, and are truly open about everything that you guys sell. You fellas are the best!!!🎉

  • @robertsteinberger
    @robertsteinberger Před rokem +7

    I would have really liked to also hear the regular E20D TC in that comparison.

  • @stevenshockley4237
    @stevenshockley4237 Před rokem +2

    I get comments saying "stop talking and play" but that's the opposite of the point of these videos. Keep going and doing you!

  • @jasperjoppegeers8448
    @jasperjoppegeers8448 Před rokem +4

    Well, i really enjoyed this comparison, but no thermo cured for me. I loooooove the standard E20D!

  • @saintless
    @saintless Před rokem +5

    I was surprised, because I ended up liking the Bourgeois best with the regular E20D a very close second. I heard the most difference in the MR-TC (which I didn't like). First time I've guessed wrong for one of your blind tests. Shame, I love the look of the Madagascar but the sound, at least with an Eastman build, just isn't for me (too bright). I really liked the Bourgeois as it was leaning more towards a mahogany sort of sound where it's warm and has clarity. I guess I like warm, woody, and punchy but not that "sparkle."

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

    • @saintless
      @saintless Před rokem +3

      @@AcousticShoppe The funny thing is, three weeks removed and listening again (same headphones) I actually prefer the MR-TC as it has a fuller sound... this time the Bourgeois is the close second. Funny how our ears want a different flavor on a different day. I suppose this is why we end up with a closet full of guitars. lol Thanks again!

  • @championincharge
    @championincharge Před 11 měsíci +1

    Just got the MR-TC and I’m obsessed with it. Easily the most magical instrument I have ever played 😍
    Oddly enough I preferred A in the blind test, so recordings are what they are and like y’all said best herd/played in person

  • @mrdogmoon
    @mrdogmoon Před rokem +3

    I think I like the Eastman D-20 sounded great. Great review!

  •  Před rokem +1

    I dig these comparisons. In my listening. 1-Bourgeois. A very pleasant thicker sound. 2-Eastman E20D-MR-TC. Great robust/high frequencies! 3-E20D. A good engaging listen!

  • @ManchurianCounterweight
    @ManchurianCounterweight Před rokem +3

    In the blind test I liked the Bourgeois best, then the 20DTC, then the MR, interesting. Love the show, you guys are entertaining as well as talented players, and lots of fun to watch.

  • @gottaflylee5521
    @gottaflylee5521 Před rokem +3

    Well done, that is about as close as it gets. You can't go wrong with any of them

  • @texhaines9957
    @texhaines9957 Před rokem +1

    John just confirmed my choice of an Eastman OM MR TC followed by a Bourgeois aged Adirondack top and Mahogany back and sides 12-fret. I know, not in this comparison. It fits my voice nicely. Thanks John and Jeremy

  • @mitzioden4926
    @mitzioden4926 Před rokem +2

    I like the Eastman E20D-MR-TC the best. It has a full open sound like old Martin's have. The Bourgoius next, and the Eastman 20D last.

  • @carole8312
    @carole8312 Před rokem +2

    That Bourgeois is fantastic! Thanks for the shootout!!!

  • @ronnieedwards5550
    @ronnieedwards5550 Před rokem +1

    These guys are great, they're good musicians and they know what they're talking about. I've bought from them they're great when it comes to that also.

  • @davidedie1518
    @davidedie1518 Před rokem +3

    I picked C the MR-TC as well, but they all sounded very close to my untrained ear. The best advice given was to play the guitar yourself. I find that if you sit down, try a few out, the right one will let you know as you play.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      Absolutely!

    • @fourocker
      @fourocker Před rokem +1

      I went through this process recently and ended up with an Eastman E6SS-TC, couldn't put it down, has a huge amount of Mahogany midrange punch/snarl, I'm gradually getting used to how loud it is, really shows up any mistakes you make too lol 😂

    • @thomasmorse4042
      @thomasmorse4042 Před 11 měsíci

      Played Eastman 20D, 20D TC, 16SS and then a used 20D TC. Could not put down the used 20D TC. Can't exactly pin down the difference but that one guitar is now mine.

  • @IamWadeHeineman
    @IamWadeHeineman Před 11 měsíci

    I've never seen you guys until 2 days ago - youtube prompted you.
    Regarding "how much time spent playong", I've complained about that regarding other guitar reviews while I'm watching them alone. I think people want to see more playing on reviews, so you might retain more viewers if you insert a minute of a song into the video-setting up a cutaway, or just intersperse more playing. Having said that. you guys are entertaining and give good info. I've been watching guitar reviews for 2-3 years. I like to hear how they all sound.

  • @davidarnold6376
    @davidarnold6376 Před rokem +1

    One thing that I don't get is the Adi tops vs the Sitka tops...I often subjectively prefer the non-torrified Sitka over the torrified adi hype. Eastman makes great products!

  • @mesimeriaris
    @mesimeriaris Před rokem +1

    The Bourgeois is the most precise and defined ( typical Bourgeois tone) , the Madagascar Eastman mory beefy in the midrange, the indian eastman more scooped . I like the E20D a little more.

  • @jazzup13
    @jazzup13 Před 5 měsíci

    Love your reviews! 👍👍👍
    Loved the blind challenge and was surprised I liked the Eastman Madagascan rosewood the most! 😮

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 Před 5 měsíci

    I guessed them right! I liked both 2 & 3 quite a bit... 2 was the most balanced and just a little more articulate... 3 had a really nice big,, rich resonance... Making up for a bit more of a dip in the mids... With it's character. W was so smooth and resident throughout the frequency spectrum.

  • @arthurleblanc7272
    @arthurleblanc7272 Před rokem

    Your mic placement has improved noticeably in the past week or so! Nice pickin'!!

  • @marcusandrew9172
    @marcusandrew9172 Před rokem +1

    Great reviews as always. Give Gruene guitars a try. Their DG-30 is a cannon. All handmade In San Antonio Texas. For 2600 dollars they are on par with bourgeois Collings and Santa Cruz for a fraction of the cost.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      Thanks for the recommendation, we'll look into them!

  • @LordAahzz
    @LordAahzz Před rokem

    So close! The E20D was my preference, with theTouchstone in 3rd...but I'd be thrilled with any of them.

  • @stugordon7371
    @stugordon7371 Před rokem +1

    thanks guys,love these shows,very informative-great playing too

  • @dividedwords
    @dividedwords Před rokem

    My ears said, from least-preferred to most: 3. E20D; 2: Bourgeois; 1: E20D-MR-TC. That one has a sweet articulate-ness that really grabs me. But they're all wonderful.

  • @FunsongsMusicByPeterRahill

    Not a true blind comparison: John's eyes are wide open, and only Jeremy's wearing glasses.

  • @dlor99
    @dlor99 Před rokem +1

    Please do same comparison with the 3 correlating OMs!

  • @crockerstephenson4931
    @crockerstephenson4931 Před rokem +2

    Love that Eastman

  • @daw162
    @daw162 Před rokem +1

    It'd be a little more interesting to see this comparison against one of the full-rate bourgeois. Years ago, I had a bourgeois slope D and then someone suggested i get an eastman varnish finish mahogany guitar because they're "just as good" or 99% as good. They weren't close and I sold the eastman after not long.
    I found two 905 archtop eastmans after that for about $1300 each used (odd considering how good they are). One turned out to be damaged and a large corporate music chain failed to either notice or mention it. I still have the other one. The second is the best sounding archtop I've ever heard. The first was good, but the one I kept is a step above.
    No guarantee my memory of bourgeois is still like the same company, if you know what I mean. I don't know how it's run now and I bought that guitar 17 years ago.
    I could've just had a dud of a varnish eastman flat top acoustic, but at that time, you wouldn't find a dud bourgeois.

    • @daw162
      @daw162 Před rokem

      my opinion as a builder and woodworker - I've hand worked both indian rosewood (which can be highly variable in color and feel, and a different animal if it has some age) and madagascar and a hundred other things. I wouldn't pay extra for madagascar rosewood unless I heard two guitars in person and the madagascar rosewood is stronger. I have my doubts about much tonal difference from the back wood, but that doesn't mean the rest of the guitar is built the same, either. Departures from indian rosewood often sound a little different, but sometimes too fundamental and not better. Good indian rosewood is *really good* wood.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts, David! Also, if you're interested, we did compare a Lewiston built Bourgeois VS the Touchstone Series one: czcams.com/video/3Q3NtGf7oWs/video.html

    • @daw162
      @daw162 Před rokem +1

      @@AcousticShoppe Thanks, i'll go look. Been out of the loop on the boutique makers for a decade or so and wasn't sure what these were, but I get it now - sort of a cooperative effort.
      Not that I believe that a guitar has to be really expensive to sound good or even be an absolute cannon. If the variation in materials is going to be accounted for, it does take some discretion and actual human attention - at the top level of the hand carved eastman archtop guitars, especially the ones with the wood held back for naturals, the attention is seemingly the same to me as it is anywhere else.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      @@daw162 We totally agree with that sentiment, David. Eastman is truly known for their archtops & hand-carving skilled workmanship. We're huge fans!

  • @ViktorAlvar
    @ViktorAlvar Před 11 měsíci

    E20D clear winner.
    Alot closer after listening through studio monitors, however I'm not sure about the tone of the madagascar eastman.

  • @jmsamborski
    @jmsamborski Před 5 měsíci

    Well I have solid musical hearing. I knew the 3 guitars blind by disliking A all together, preferring B by a lot, and thinking C was a better version of A. That meant A and C had to be the two Eastmans, with the C being the cured. Ended up dead on correct.

  • @JPcares
    @JPcares Před 2 měsíci

    My ears told me right away that B was the Bourgeois. There was no question in my mind.

  • @peterabbey1539
    @peterabbey1539 Před rokem

    I would need high quality headphones to consistently pick out the differences between the three. They all sound good.

  • @andreguitars
    @andreguitars Před rokem +1

    love the discussion and details guys. keep itbup

  • @billdedrick1914
    @billdedrick1914 Před rokem +1

    The Eastman E20D-MR-TC was the winner here to my ear...The Bourgeois was 2nd and E20D was 3rd.

  • @victoresarey4036
    @victoresarey4036 Před rokem +2

    Amazing, I'd love to trade my e20d for that bourgeois 😍

    • @TheLaserr
      @TheLaserr Před rokem

      I played out the other day and it was amazing. The voicing on the top gives it so much more sound projection and clarity it’s awesome. Def needs to be worked in though since it’s not thermo cured.

  • @timtaylor7867
    @timtaylor7867 Před 3 měsíci

    i picked during the blind section, C then A and B last
    for some strange reason the highs sound muted on the Bourgois
    after listening a few more times the most balanced to me was A. E20D

  • @BillBurnette
    @BillBurnette Před 6 měsíci

    To my old ears there isn’t a nickel’s worth of difference between the three. I used to be a die-hard “buy American” guy, but Eastman has changed that for me. I love my E10D!

  • @vechap
    @vechap Před měsícem

    Eastman (Either)... Mostly because of the price! They all sound really good, just slightly different.

  • @bennyblanko3
    @bennyblanko3 Před rokem

    Nice playing, and they all sound good to me! I bought a E20 ss varnish off you guys, and that thing is a cannon now that it has opened up, and been hammered on by my brother and me. Just amazing! I also got an E10 om tc off you guys, and that thing is great too. Awesome tone and all around great guitar. The eastmans really sound good once they are played a bunch and dry out by the wood stove ... heh heh. Gota keep them away from that wood stove - don't want them cracking.

  • @ianshadrick1414
    @ianshadrick1414 Před rokem

    Thank you, this is awesome! Would love to see the Touchtone and MR against your view of a comparable Breedlove.

  • @24avenged24
    @24avenged24 Před rokem +1

    You guys really like to point out the "lifetime warranty" of Eastman but outside of maybe covering the cost to have a dealer do the work what value does a lifetime warranty from an overseas company really have?

    • @TheJimmyCBrady
      @TheJimmyCBrady Před rokem

      In our experience, they will get covered warranty work done and paid for or replace the instrument if that is the preferred outcome. All handled from their US headquarters in Pomona, CA.

  • @steveyarbrough2300
    @steveyarbrough2300 Před rokem

    You guys are incredible! Loved this.

  • @JubileeValence
    @JubileeValence Před rokem

    "C". A & B sounded like dead ringers. C popped out another decibel or 2 lol. And rang like a bell! (Shhh!)
    Cheers!
    (Really dynamic with the added drone on all 3 = OOOMPHH!!!!)

  • @acousticaddiction7719
    @acousticaddiction7719 Před rokem +1

    I own the e20d and I got the blind test all wrong. I thought it went touchstone, Madagascar, e20d. Just goes to show that the e20d holds its own.

  • @steveyarbrough2300
    @steveyarbrough2300 Před rokem +1

    Here’s a question: I love Eastmans and own several, including one that I bought from you guys. I’m always struck, though, by how heavy they feel compared to the other guitars I own. Does the Touchstone feel more like a Bourgeois when you pick it up, or does it feel more like an Eastman? I’ve always been struck by how light Dana’s guitars feel.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +2

      To us, the Touchstones feel a little heavier than an Eastman E20D, mainly because of the bolt-on neck. You can also feel a different weight distribution due to the bolt-on neck. Hope this helps!

  • @cliffdykes1171
    @cliffdykes1171 Před 5 měsíci

    Great playing and great discussion

  • @newffee
    @newffee Před 18 dny

    E20D is the clearest and most balanced

  • @turrafirmaguitarchannel

    Thankyou I have been waiting for a direct comparison with the Touchstone and Eastmans!! I picked guitarA as the e20d but got the other 2 the other way round. I thought the e20 Madagascar sounded the best, but they were all close.
    What are your thoughts on how new all these guitars are and how much better will they sound in 3 months, 6 months and a year?
    Also, is the Bourgeois the same dimensions exactly as the Eastmans? Is the Bourgeois more balanced due to shallower body, or narrower bouts?
    Last question, is the combined bridge/saddle height of the guitars roughly the same? I have seen Eastmans with very low bridges in past few years.
    Love your channel 💖

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +1

      Here's some answers via John: 1. All guitars will just sound better & better over time! 2. The Touchstones are not exactly the same dimensions as Eastman's but they are similar. 3. The bridge/saddle height should be about the same. Thanks for watching!

  • @RSNflatpickn
    @RSNflatpickn Před rokem

    Well I have to say I missed it on all 3 but after getting home and listening on my system the Madi was the best over all for me that kinda isn't what I thought it would be
    I really thought the other 2 where really close and I understand they are going thru the mic thats how I heard it on this end

  • @sidweazel2883
    @sidweazel2883 Před 10 měsíci +1

    E20D for me

  • @vyvynylification
    @vyvynylification Před 8 dny

    Funny! E20 MR-TC > E20d > bourgeois. The complete opposite of what I wanted

  • @cfmartin568
    @cfmartin568 Před rokem

    I think the regular e20 and the mr in dread are really similar. But the OM mr is in a whole different category. It’s much better than the Indian. ???

  • @WysteriaGuitar
    @WysteriaGuitar Před rokem +1

    Yep, C for sure...

  • @MrFuckwit999
    @MrFuckwit999 Před rokem

    I liked C best, then A then B. Not what I expected! Great playing as always. I just wonder if the MR will ever make it to the UK, or did you greedy folk snap them all up?

  • @TheJewellian
    @TheJewellian Před rokem

    wow, great channel and knowledge

  • @janfrombelgium5410
    @janfrombelgium5410 Před rokem

    For me... The Bourgeois is not even close to the Eastmans. Especially the E20D... It just sound better, fuller, LOUDER and much more sparkly.
    However in the blind test, the other Eastman came out the best 🤔👀
    Anyway in my opinion, there go's the Bourgeois. 👋
    Greeting from far away Belgium!
    🇧🇪✌️

  • @jdstan9650
    @jdstan9650 Před rokem +1

    First of all, I love all guitars and have owned a Martin, 3 Gibsons, 3 Taylors, and 2 Eastmans.
    You can make one guitar look like a copy of another guitar...this is what Eastman does, but they do NOT sound like the guitars they are copying...oh sorry, marketing term "inspired by".
    Martins sound like Martins.
    Gibsons sound like Gibsons. Taylors sound like Taylors. Eastmans sound like Eastmans.

  • @reckonimokie123
    @reckonimokie123 Před rokem

    Question on guitars: what was the small guitar that Marty Robins played on stage? It was very small. Thx.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +1

      We believe it was a Martin 5-18, according to Gorge Gruhn!

  • @cacklin1
    @cacklin1 Před 7 měsíci

    Would you do a shootout with the Squairer Fender acoustic guitars?

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před 7 měsíci +1

      We're not Fender dealers so probably not, but we have included Fender in some of our beginner guitar comparisons, it's just not really feasible for us to try and get those models in.

  • @billdedrick1914
    @billdedrick1914 Před rokem

    The Bourgeois does not have a 1-22/32" nut width which is 1-11/16", it has a 1-23/32" nut width

  • @stevecox4534
    @stevecox4534 Před rokem

    Can you tell me what make/model of microphones you use on your vids? Thanks!

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +1

      We use Ear Trumpet Labs mics & these would be the Edwina models!

  • @johnhicks7057
    @johnhicks7057 Před 4 měsíci

    Well, I came back to listen to this video and as usual y’all did a good job. What are the strings that are on the guitars? 12’s or 13’s. Great demo
    PS have y’all done a comparison with the touchstone OM and Eastman Om?

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před 4 měsíci

      It's hard to say but I believe these should all have light strings. We have not done a comparison with the OMs, but if we have the models you're looking for in stock, we can always send you tone demos directly, give us a call or email!

  • @andronikostheophilos
    @andronikostheophilos Před rokem

    IF you decide you want to purchase an Eastman Dreadnought, and you live in Missouri, go to Banjo Ben's General Store in Exeter, MO vs these gentlemen in Springfield, MO. You will get a great setup at Banjo Ben's General Store, and they are Bluegrass oriented.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +4

      We love Banjo Ben and all the folks at The General Store, Jake was just here at The Acoustic Shoppe yesterday. Not sure that after winning an IBMA (International Bluegrass Music) award and multiple SPBGMA awards, touring internationally as a Bluegrass band for over 30 years, we would be less "Bluegrass oriented", but we believe you can't go wrong either way! We also go to great lengths to make sure every instrument we ship is inspected and set up to manufactures specs before it leaves our shop.

  • @Saladzingers
    @Saladzingers Před rokem

    I tried a couple of Eastmans recently, on the back of all the rave reviews they get. Honestly, was not that impressed 😕 The fit and finish are all great, but they both sounded a bit lacklustre, just not exciting or lively. I’m sure better ones exist but I wouldn’t buy without playing.

    • @elsizzle2000
      @elsizzle2000 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I can same about expensive Martins. Only 1 out of 10 ive played sound WOW. Most sound basic. I've played a bunch of Eastmans sound meh and recently played one that wowed me which why I will be getting one or two (TCl) models. You have to play a few to get the tone you want. No two of the same brand/ model sound alike man!

  • @billdedrick1914
    @billdedrick1914 Před rokem

    Where is the link to your visit to Bourgeois in Lewiston, Maine

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      Here is the link: czcams.com/video/8ZMTUSmQ44I/video.html For future reference, if you click on the "i" icon in the top right of the video, that will show the videos we have mentioned in the review! It will also appear at the very end of the video, hope this helps!

  • @victoresarey4036
    @victoresarey4036 Před 4 měsíci

    So do these bourgeois have the bolt on neck or?

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před 4 měsíci

      The Touchstone series use bolt-on necks.

    • @victoresarey4036
      @victoresarey4036 Před 4 měsíci

      @@AcousticShoppe I have an opportunity to trade my 1992 d28 and another guitar for one of the bourgeois rosewood touchtones, do you think this would be a wise trade?

  • @akfisher7138
    @akfisher7138 Před rokem

    C was my fave. The second one was a bit mushy.

  • @demolitionwilliams7419

    What song is he playing? I'm dying to learn it

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +1

      That would be "Whiskey Before Breakfast", get to pickin'! 😄

  • @mikereynolds3294
    @mikereynolds3294 Před 9 měsíci

    Headphones and 3 listens later my ears say.
    #1 is C
    #2 is A
    #3 is B

  • @7thfrettin163
    @7thfrettin163 Před rokem

    What about the woods on a 59 gibson j 50? What's the closest guitar to that sound?

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +2

      In the Eastman world, an E6SS-TC might be the closest thing. It is a Slope Shoulder dread with Mahogany and Sitka. Hopefully that helps!

    • @7thfrettin163
      @7thfrettin163 Před rokem

      @@AcousticShoppe helps alot thank you.

  • @barryspurlock3048
    @barryspurlock3048 Před rokem

    The tunners on it work better than my grovers.

  • @mickymillersson4376
    @mickymillersson4376 Před rokem

    The E20D has a more bell like tone, I might say more musical. Maybe just my ear taking precedence over my ego.

  • @maskedmurider
    @maskedmurider Před rokem

    John sounds like Charlie Day

  • @eduardoramirez6877
    @eduardoramirez6877 Před rokem +1

    Is not the guitar is the player.👍

    • @jed1166
      @jed1166 Před rokem

      Ok… I’ll take one of these, and you get a $199 Fender dreadnought with laminated back and sides. If the guitar didn’t matter, nobody would build a good one, right?

  • @coolhandluke2310
    @coolhandluke2310 Před rokem

    They sound the same to me. 😂😂😂

  • @berkeleybernie
    @berkeleybernie Před rokem

    The Eastmans are very good for their price point.

  • @robertsteinberger
    @robertsteinberger Před rokem

    How about same amount of talking, even more playing?

  • @bjgile3
    @bjgile3 Před rokem

    nope they all sound the same on the recording with studio speakers not worth the price difference sorry!!

  • @maplebones
    @maplebones Před 7 měsíci

    If I had to choose between two comparable guitars, I'd choose the one with a bolt on neck, but I wouldn't buy any of these obese blimps.