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BMW Z4 E89 iDrive MMI Installation, Part 1 CarPlay Android Auto
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- EDIT** It's been brought to my attention that in some countries the passenger has a knee airbag. Having this will mean that you'll need to remove two 10mm nuts and a couple of extra screws to allow you to remove the glovebox. Be careful when removing the airbag, and I'd recommend removing the battery before unplugging the airbag and allow the system to discharge completely for 15 minutes. Do not have the car switched on while the airbag is disconnected.
Hello and welcome to my latest video.
Today I cover the installation of an MMI (Multi-Media Interface) box into my iDrive system on my E89. With this Plug-N-Play box you will have access to various apps from your phone. It’ll give you CarPlay for iPhones and Android Auto for Android phones. It will give you a wireless connection for your iPhone and wired for all Android phones and wireless for certain Android phones (I’m currently running a Samsung A70 and can use wireless, so not all of the lists of compatible phones are correct). It can also give you the ability to have a front and rear camera attached as well, but after running a rear camera on my E89 for over a year and half now a really don’t recommend them as they are too low down to be of use. If you do decide to fit a camera then I also have a video on that as well, here... • BMW E89 Z4 Parking Sen...
In this Part 1 video I run through the components that come with the box kit and how to install them into your E89. In Part 2 I’ll run through the set-up process of connecting your phone wirelessly for both the iPhone and Android and then also show the various settings that are available in the box settings page along with the interaction with the iDrive controller and steering wheel controls.
Link to Part 2 • BMW Z4 E89 iDrive MMI ...
Link to Part 3 • BMW Z4 E89 iDrive MMI ...
Link for the suppliers are;
In Europe - www.ewaying.com/products/bmw-...
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Please note there are other suppliers who sell these boxes, these are just the ones I've used (this video is not sponsored in any way)
Thank you for watching and I hope you like it.
On a personal note, thank you to everyone that has watched, liked and subscribed to my videos and channel, it is very much appreciated. I am not going to ask for likes and subscriptions like most do on CZcams, if you want to then that is great, if not then fair enough I hope you’ve got something out of it. I make these videos to help other owners out, I’m not an expert in any way at all I just do my research and give it a go.
I mention in the video that previously, as you’ll note from some of my other videos, I had the Android touchscreen fitted and now in this video I have the BMW iDrive system, well hopefully that is also going to be a future How-To video as this summer I did a full retrofit. Don’t get me wrong, there was nothing wrong with the Android screen, it was working perfectly and I really liked it, in fact I still recommend them for anyone without the iDrive system, it’s just that I always wanted iDrive and this year I’ve found all of the components and the time to fit it, along with this MMI box to give me everything I wanted. There is one niggle at the moment and that is that I’ve still not got the Bluetooth working from the OE components (although I do have it through the MMI box) and that is why these videos are delayed and not in order. I will produce the iDrive video just as soon as I can rectify the Bluetooth issue, then I can show every aspect of the retrofit together.
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A couple of links have been added to the video description, other suppliers are available.
Thank you!
You are a life saver. The instructions I received with my decoder were sketchy to say the least. Your videos made a seemingly impossible job achievable. Thank you very much.
I'm glad it was of use 👍
Great to have you active again!
Thank you, it's good to have another video that is completed and up live. I hope to have more content soon, but alas not one single project is completed in one way or another. Part 2 of this one should be live over Christmas (hopefully sooner!).
Very clear, and well explained - thanks.
great instruction. many thanks.
Great videos on your channel, thanks a lot!! Unfortunately already installed my MMI box prior to the release of this video. Definitely gave me some tips on improving my installation/running of wires. In my case I was able to fit the MMI box behind the head unit, though I’m doubting now whether this was a good idea considering heat (It’s pretty tight)? Anyway looking forward to future videos!
Do you remember where you put the MMI box behind the head unit? I've been trying to find a good place for it to no avail
Hi is there any chance you could post a link to this unit? I just bought a 2013 z4 with idrive and would love to be able to use android auto
Great videos thanks. My only question is, is the OEM screen on the car high enough resolution and bright enough, or would you recommend to update the whole system with the aftermarket unit/screen\?
Good question. As I've had both I can say that although the Android screen is a sharper HD image, it would only really show if you was watching a movie and even then it's still a small screen.
Saying that the original screen is perfectly OK for map guidance in both map and satellite mode (Google Maps).
In fitting tge Android screen you would loose the up/down movement as they are fixed. Although they do give you more features, I've motioned mine since I removed it as I'm always on Android Auto anyway.
Great job David, done this mod actually as you know:-) i am going to fit cruisecontrol right now so wish me luck!
Please help: if I connect the idrive cable it doesn’t work properly. If I don’t connect the idrive cable nothing happens when holding menu button. Where should the idrive can cable be plugged into?
This seems to be a current problem.
In the video I state connect L to B, well I've had viewers confirm they've had succes with A to B, so give that a try.
There seems to be many cameras available on the market, is there any specific requirement for this unit or will anything work? I'm looking at systems like this and would like to place the camera in the centre
If you check out the Part 1 of this installation ( czcams.com/video/jY-pSPUz0IU/video.html ) I show you the camera I used there (at 23 minutes).
Most cameras will work as long as they have the RCA Phono video plug on them.
So where can I get this for my Merican Zed 4?
There are quite a few suppliers around, but if you check out my latest video I show a newer mmi box that is far superior to this style.
czcams.com/video/EY4XAzUYiXk/video.html
In the description there are links directly to the supplier, and they have a US based network as well.
Hope that helps 👍
Hi - very useful video, thanks. I need to remove the whole dashboard on my E89 - can you point me at a good video that covers this?
Alas not aware of a full dash out video, although I removed all of the bottom end in my iDrive retrofit one...
czcams.com/video/wYQgNDj4Fac/video.html
@@BMWZ4Mods Thanks - that looks like a definite good start towards my plastic tab breaking / spaghetti adventure - looks like it covers the most difficult aspects. Thanks!
@@Showing_the_car_ oh it's all good fun 🤣
I followed your tutorial but when I Connect #L to #B the screen does not pop up and I can hear the head unit power cycle. If I use the I-drive adapter, the screen will work and I can access the mmi menu but the idrive knob does not light or function. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
If you have an E89 and tge unit is identical to tge one I installed, then that is the correct way to connect it up.
All I can say is do mot connect the iDrive adaptor loom, but you could try one of the other plug options instead of L to B.
For me it worked connecting A and B. No need for the loom
Hi, I have installed evertything thanks to your great videos, but I have one small problem: everything works great except that the sound only comes from the left side speakers of the car. With the OEM system everything still works fine, but when I switch to carplay the sound comes out only from the left side speakers. Do you have any idea why? I already checked the iphone and the audio balance setting are perfectly in the middle. Thank you :)
As this unit has the sound output via the AUX socket, then I'd check that the socket is working properly first. Plug something else into it and see how the sound is then. If it's the same then you've got an issue with the socket, the wire from it or the mulf/combox.
If it runs fine then you've probably got an issue with the mmi box.
@@BMWZ4Mods Thank you for your quick answer! Do you any idea how I can try something else with the AUX socket? Because since the optical cable is now connected to the new power cable for the MMI box the AUX no longer works with the original system. I hope that makes sense.
@@TheFullOfJoker sorry I'm a little confused, this type of box doesn't connect into the optical network in the car, it plugs into the AUX!
@@BMWZ4Mods i mean that from the original power cable i had to disconnect the green and black cable. Now I have just noticed that if a disconnect che aux cable the audio comes out from the speaker, so this mean that a the moment the audio doesn’t comes out from there, but from the bluetooth i guess, is it possible?
Hello. I am following your instructions. And I am a little confused about the can bus cable. I understand we do not need the CarPlay cable as you stated. Does this mean that the original cable remains plugged into the idrive controller?
So no extra cables to piggyback into the I drive controller in the centre console?
I have tried this and removed the white loop wire you show and then plugged the 2 connectors together. When I do this the screen does not pop up and the radio is playing but the volume seems to not be stable, volume goes up and down.
If I unplug these plugs and return the white loop wires, the screen pops up but the I drive controller does not function the radio plays
What have I missed, what am I doing wrong. Something wrong on these connections I guess, but not sure what I have missed.
Any advice would be most. Helpful. Thanks in advance
Ps I have the cic system with maps and hard drive etc
I believe the problem here is that some of the MMI boxes may now have updated software which is altering how the canbus wire needs to be attached. I can only suggest trying different options with the connections you have until you find the correct one.
Please note I filmed that over a year ago now and it was correct then, it may have changed depending on which supplier you got yours from. All I can say is that it was correct then and I've done a few since all of which were the same with the last one being about 6 weeks ago.
@@BMWZ4Mods thanks. Turned out to be a and b that needed connecting. Everything else was per your video. Great thanks
Great job David. Could you share more details about the Microphone cable specification that you use in this installation. I have one Z4 E89 with Android head unit where the microphone is very bad. I am trying to connect the original z4 microphone to the Android head unit using the microphone cable that you used in this video. Is it possible to find this cable on the market? Thanks a lot
Hi there, alas I doubt you can get hold of this microphone cable separately. The cable is a 3.5mm jack to twin microphone male and female connectors (twin as in two different connectors dependent on OE microphone connector for specific BMW models). Unfortuneateley as I do recommend that it is used (otherwise you wont have use of the microphone for the MMI box) then I wouldn't think anyone would have a spare, you could try one of the many suppliers and see if they could help you. Please note though, I could not guarantee that this lead would work with the Android screen input though, it is the correct plug but it could be down toother factors.
@@BMWZ4Mods Thanks David for your reply. I could find a provider that will send the microphone adaptor cable to test with the original BMW z4 microphone and the Android Head unit. In two weeks I will receive the cables and I will let you know the results.
@@cassiovaquero7040 that's excellent 👍
@@cassiovaquero7040. Does the BMW microphone works well with the android screen?
I really appreciate the time you put into these videos. I received the Andream unit also with no instructions. So this has been a big help. I have had one issue with my install which I hope you have some insight on. When I turn on the car, I have a red screen where iDrive should be. I have tried the CIC reboot, but that is not the issue. When I hold the menu to switch to MMI, that setup is working fine. CarPlay appears, audio, steering wheel controls, everything works. I am just missing iDrive when I change source. If I reverse the LVDS cables which some recommended in the forums, iDrive reappears, but I can no longer switch to the MMI source, by holding the Menu button. Any advice, have I missed a step along the way?
Definitely sounds like a LVDS cable issue to me though. The red screen appears when the screen unit doesn't receive a signal.
So (not teaching granny to suck eggs (never did understand that phrase!))
Headunit LVDS OUT to MMI box LVDS IN. MMI box LVDS OUT to original LVDS cable going to screen.
Physically make sure they are run correctly.
I'm assuming you haven't used the iDrive controller adaptor loom at all from the box loom to the controller? And you have linked B to L? As faulty canbus connection will mean it won't work correctly.
Hope that helps.
@@BMWZ4Mods Thanks for the prompt response. I also thought it may be an issue with the LVDS cable coming from the head unit, but as I mentioned if I switch the cables, and plug that into the LVDS OUT of the MMI rather than the IN, iDrive instantly appears, but I lose the MMI going to the Display. So my only theory is, do I have a faulty port on the MMI box for LVDS IN?
I did make the mistake of using the IDrive Controller loom, as I started with no instructions, but I have completely removed that, and I linked B to L, as you directed. After contacting Andream, they sent over some usless Instructions. Both their instructions and the labeling on the loom, never a suggestion of connecting B to L anywhere, or the elimination of the iDrive Controller loom. I read some forum posts of people leaving the cars off for a while and it just starts working. So I disconnected the battery last night and let it sit, but still the same issue.
@@jsharvey so to explain how the box works....
The video output signal from the headunit is interrupted by the box when tge MENU button is pressed for 3 seconds. It the outputs its own video stream to the screen.
If it's not allowing the original video signal through then, as you say, it's either faulty within the box or one of the new cables is faulty in some way.
Now I'm leaning towards the box being faulty, so I'd suggest contacting the supplier and see what they say.
@@BMWZ4Mods Thanks for the help on this. I couldn't make the Andream unit work, and their support has been challenging to work with. I assume this issue is hardware-related. As I purchased the box from Bimmer-Tech and it's working. There was some confusion with Bimmer-Tech's own install instructions, as they also have a harness to both the iDrive controller and parking brake, which it states to install, but with that harness, none of the electronics in my Z4 35is worked. (The car was pitch black but the engine would fire up) Interestingly enough, if I kept the harness attached to the iDrive controller but disconnected it from the parking brake, everything works. I didn't test this configuration with the Andream as I was frankly fed up with it. The Bimmer-Tech solution which I know is similar hardware is 3x more expensive, but their support is top-notch.
I also followed your instructions to replace the buttons for the convertible top, thank you for that. Were you ever able to find a supplier for the heated seat buttons?
We tried to install the Andream box in my Z4. Unfortunately, with the adapter installed, the iDrive is completely out of function. Any idea what might be the problem?
When you say adaptor do you mean the one from the new loom to the iDrive controller? If so then don't use it and try a combination of what I've put in the video. But your box is different to mine so I'm not saying this will be a 100% fix for it.
There are some discussions on e90post.com and e89.zpost.com regarding the Andream boxes that may help.
@@BMWZ4Mods Thank you for the swift reply.
I've recently had an Andream MMI unit installed in my Z4. The unit seems to be temperamental. It works sometimes, but after a while it locks the BMW I Drive system up (so nothing works). If I disconnect the radio and leave for 5 mins it works again. Have you come across this problem at all? Any ideas how to fix it? Great videos by the way. Keep them coming.
Sounds to me like either a faulty box (possible) or probably its a canbus wire issue. In fitting these ive come across a number of different combinations for the canbus wire option, but, as in the video, most of the time B to L is the best bet (04:55 in the video)
Hope that helps.
@@BMWZ4Mods Thanks for getting back to me, much appreciated. I've passed the info on to my installers so hopefully that does the trick. The unit didn't come with any install instructions so I'm searching the web for a pdf. I've asked Andream but nothing from them yet!
@@marcjenkins52 if you send me an email to anubis4120@googlemail.com I'll send you the pdf I have for the install 👍
My Z4 E89 Android screen does not respond at all, but the i-Drive works. However, with the i-Drive I cannot go to the apps or settings menus. Is there a solution for it? I would appreciate if you can tell me what to do to fix the issue.
Thank you in advance.
Zack, sorry not sure what you mean. You have OEM iDrive but have it connected to an Android Touchscreen, is that correct?
So you can see the standard iDrive menus (Nav, Radio, Phone, CD, car data etc) so you are saying it won't turn over to the Android apps?
Contact me directly on anubis4120@googlemail.com and we can talk properly about it 👍
Thank you very much for your response. No, my i-drive is not OEM; it came with the screen. So, I can control most of the icons on the screen with the i-drive, but nothing (none of the icons or anything on the screen) responds when I touch the screen with my finger. I used to be able to use touch or i-drive to control various options on the screen, but the screen does not respond to touch, whatsoever; it simply stopped working without having done anything to the unit or to the car, for that matter. I have tried all the tricks available on CZcams; but none has worked. I would really appreciate it if you know of a trick to resolve this issue. Thanks very much!
Hey David I followed your direction but, screen is not popipng up and coming on and random errors. I had an extra green /white wire already connected to the loom. i have A B C and L. thinking this may be a problem. Any help appreciated.
Yep, as in the video B to L. This is a canbus issue and comes up with all sorts of faults if it's not correct.
Hope that helps.
@@BMWZ4Mods Thanks for fast reply, i just found out i have combox retrofit and this want work with that i am assuming. I guess i want have android auto since that is what i was going for.
@@jayeparker9281 combox hasnothing to do with the MMI box, they are independent of each other. The combox is connected to the headunit via the optical system only so no interaction with the main loom other than having to swap the optical over to the new quadlock connector.
Did you resolve the issue? I am having the same issue.
I have the z4 e89 2011 . For me it worked correctly when I connected A and B together. Now working great
Hey- I have a BMW Z4 E89 2009. It has the standard cd plater/radio and the gap in the dash for a screen . I want to install a screen with THE idrIve knob. any recommendations that aren't rediculously priced. I want a good one with carplay but can't afford £600+-cheers in advance
Unfortunately that's not really going to be possible, my full iDrive retrofit cost me £800+ and an Android touchscreen will set you back £750 but you may get lucky and find someone selling a used Android. They do come up from time to time, I sold my one for £500 but that's about your options really.
@@BMWZ4Mods ok thanks for your help
@@BMWZ4Mods which would you recommend?
@@ryanborder189 what? Between OEM iDrive retrofit and an Android screen?
Oh for sheer, non-complicated install then the Android screen for sure. It is relatively plug-n-play (check out my other video on the installation and set up) where as the retrofit is a major dismantling exercise of the dashboard followed by coding of the cars system, and that's after you've found all of the correct parts. No, defo the Android.
When looking, make sure you choose the best spec you can and also that is comes with the iDrive controller (OEM controllers won't work with the Android screen in a non-iDrive car)
@@BMWZ4Mods Great-much appreciated-do you have one in a video or that you would recommend?
This is a set of very helpful installation information. Maybe I missed it, but where do you get the hardware? Thanks!
Thank you.
Links are in the description.
Hello! why did you change the android system to this one? what reason? Thank you.
The short version is that I always wanted the OE iDrive system and found a cost effective way of doing it. And as I only really ever use Android Auto then I didn't need the rest.
It's not an easy job retrofitting the iDrive system though and I will be making a video on that soon.
@@BMWZ4Mods Lol! I just watched part 2 and was wondering about the i-drive system (which I don't have, but interested in as well). BTW, your description/tutorial is the best bar none! I think in a previous video you had issues having the i-drive control working correctly? I see that in part two it seems to be working flawlessly. Great Job! Looking forward to seeing the i-drive retrofit.
@@xr500t thanks for your kind comments, it's appreciated.
Yes the problem with the iDrive controller was that a genuine one doesn't work fully with the Android screen unless you already have the iDrive headunit. And you also can't use an Android controller with an iDrive headunit.
But as I've now gone fully iDrive (unit, screen and controller) I have no issues at all. I intend to document all of my findings and problems when I do the retrofit video for iDrive. 👍
@@BMWZ4Mods Fantastic! I knew something was up (or, just can't remember what you said about the screen) when I saw the screen pop up. Looking forward to the final thoughts and comments on this install.
Thanks for the videos, they are really useful, could you please let me know where you got the MMI from.
cheers Derrick
Hi, how do I get hold of you to supply and fit this for me? Cheers
You can contact me through this link..... z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=116957
@@BMWZ4Mods sent you an email. 👍🏽
Great set of instructional videos, thank you. Can I ask if the screen in this clip is also upgraded? It looks like it’s slightly sharper than my 35i (2010) screen? 🙏
@@supercrazysane no its origibal OEM. It's part of my iDrive retrofit, and came from a 2015 Z4.
@@BMWZ4Mods ah ok thanks, nice work on the CarPlay mod. I might have a go at doing it as CarPlay looks like a worthwhile update. 🙏
I installed the module but via carplay I can't hang up the call. does it have to do with settings? everything else seems to work fine. thanks for your videos!!
How do you answer the call? Via the steering wheel buttons? I doubt it'll be a setting. It may depend on which manufacturers box you have as well, but I'd imagine CarPlay works the same on all of them.
@@BMWZ4Mods Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately my steering wheel controls are faulty, I will have to have them replaced. I use the joystick and select on the screen. Unfortunately it doesn't work to hang up the call. The box looks the same as the one in the video.
@djmovemusic unfortunately as I'm on Android, I don't get to see the CarPlay phone screen, so is there the phone down (red) displayed on the screen while you're on a call? And if so, can you scroll to it?
The other option is you're going to need your steering wheel buttons fixed.
@@BMWZ4Mods yes exactly, scrolling on the red button and pressing it nothing happens and the call is not ended
@@djmovemusic ahh OK, sounds like it may be faulty. Have you tried contacting the seller and asking them? Might even be an update available.