How To Make Prehistoric Cheese
Vložit
- čas přidán 18. 10. 2017
- Join Dr Penny Bickle and Susan Greaney as they make cheese using the same techniques as our prehistoric ancestors.
If you want to learn more about what the people of the Neolithic were eating at the time Stonehenge was being constructed, discover our new exhibition: goo.gl/Ah8V1u
SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CZcams CHANNEL: goo.gl/c5lVBJ
FIND A PLACE TO VISIT: goo.gl/86w2F6
LIKE US ON FACEBOOK: goo.gl/Un5F2X
FOLLOW US ON TWITTER: goo.gl/p1EoGh
FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: goo.gl/PFzmY5 - Zábava
In Italy they used to use twigs from fig trees as rennet, and twisted willow branches as mould. Some people still use this method to make traditional ricotta cheese.
Twigs from fig tree behaves like rennet? Rennet is produced in the stomach of calves still on milk - killed after their last meal :(
Yeah, it's very similar how we produce traditional ricotta in sicily
@@neomt2 yeah, some plants like cardoon thistles or nettles for example can be soaked in water to extract a thickening enzyme that is similar to chymosin, which is the enzyme taken from the stomach lining of a calf, ewe or kid and so can be used as an alternative plant-based rennet for cheese.
I wished they would have explained how renin would be present those days and film the milk straight from a cow. That'll get way more attention
Kenneth Ho it should be similar to vinegar
Kenneth Ho my guess is they discovered the properties of rennet when they stored milk in a calf stomach, since I believe that's where it comes from.
Kenneth Ho I'm just as curious about the linen
Kenneth Ho Rennet unfortunately comes from the stomach of calves. The stomach must be from a calf that has not eaten anything but milk. In "olden days" they would just add a piece of the stomach.
Thats true!, it's quite impossible that they were adding exctacted rennet those days. they would either add a piece of stomach or keep the milk in pouches made from stomach. They could possibly make cheese just by aciding milk to the accurate point (for example by leaving it for a while in warm place ;) )
People still make this cheese in Lithuania (varškė), Poland, and Russia. It’s an ingredient in a large number of lithuanian dishes. It’s sweet with sugar and covered with chocolate( sūrėlis sg/ sūrėliai.) They use lemon or vinegar because rennet is hard to procure. If you want to make this at home, I suggest you use cultured butter milk or whole
+Erik S Thanks for sharing Erik, that’s really interesting and sounds delicious.
Erik S That is so interesting! I need to try that out!
It's made in Romania too and it's pretty common to make it this way
For those asking about where they'd get rennet, I believe stinging nettles may also be used for the same purpose.
What's with the eerie music
It's supposed to make you feel like you're travelling back through the ages.
Wind outside of the cave
Cheese making is a dark art so its accurate.
8000 BC kids will remember that prehistoric song
I like it lol
Rennet - enzyme used in cheese making - easily obtainable from dried cow's stomach.
so all they needed was a bowl of prehistoric rennet they had laying around right next to their prehistoric cheese cloth.
They should have used something else to strain the cheese curds, but the rennet was fine
Much better to at least discuss where they found rennet. And the linen is not far fetched, but at least discuss where it came from.
did they know about rennet back then?
My thoughts exactly.
Well, fine cloth has been around for quite a while, with some incredibly fine fabrics (finer than modern ones) produced even in prehistory. Remember, most hunting (contrary to popular belief) was done with nets, not with projectiles, and some of those nets were very finely woven.
ah i love this kind of cheese. i used to make it a lot with my grandma! we call it puína!
It can also be done with lemons instead of rennet.
That sounds lovely! Thanks for sharing.
Iago dos lago that sounds awesome! What kind of milk? Do you have the ratios of milk to Lemon?
I love cheese and I love rustic and historic food ,thank you for wonderful videos..💖
Thank you for watching!
They made something similar to paneer cheese, its great to see that neolithic peoples ate cheese!
Hello! :) I love your videos, but unfortunately i would like to notice that you were adding already extracted rennet (first isolation of this nsyme took place in 1874). Prehistoric people could have use rennet but in different form. they could have added pieces of for ex. calf stomachs, or put milk in pouches made from stomachs :) Greetings!
This was what my mum would do to avoid wasting curdled milk, she would make cream cheese. She didn't use rennet, just (freshly)separated milk that hadn't quite been used in time, hung in a piece of muslin. I'm sure lots of people made cream cheese like this before the age of the fridge.
I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKED THE MUSIC
Could have done without the percussion "music"
Wes Smith I agree lol 😂😂😂😂
It was just a bit off considering how cheerful the ladies were, haha
Wes Smith yeah. It sounded a little creepy or ominous.
well if you had a degree in that field and the company flew you out with all expenses paid you would be happy too
it's way too loud for the rest
Awww was hoping you'd reenact it as if you were our prehistoric ancestors, like the victorian way videos! but really informative, nonetheless
Nina Yu Same, wanted some cave girl action where she mainly mumbling throughout the video while wearing tiger fur
My mom still makes cheese this way.
For anyone wondering how they got the rennet its from the stomach of a young cow after its slaughtered, and cheese cloth can be made from simple linen also
What about the vegetarians?
@@bozzskaggs112you’re surely not being serious are you?
I love watching these videos.. thank you for making them. ❤
Thank you for watching!
Apart from doing it besides a small fire, cheesemaking hasn't really changed since then. Unfortunately the interesting questions aren't answered: how did they gain the rennet? Did they use such fine mesh cheesecloth? Were they able to weave fabrics like that or what else did they/might have they used?
That was really interesting! I loved the video thanks!
This historical food videos are my favorite!
I love the music they use for the prehistoric videos
I like cheese, I like Neolithic stuff and I like the music. Good job.
Should have explained where they would have gotten the rennet back then
same way as now
Maybe from some plants like Galium verum?
Or what rennet is, how much to add, etc... mrs crombie would have done a better job
Jealous Gypsy Homestead & Forge lol
@@missbackwoods the kitchen maids do that sort of thing!
This is so awesome! So interesting.
What is rennet and where would they have got it from? They seemed to skip over that part...
Otherwise great video thanks.
Hello Jenny. Rennet is a mixture of enzymes that can be found in the stomachs of certain animals. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
@Miss Un-PC Just like they did in prehistoric times.
This is great, have been doing it for quite a few years now :)
The music is very distracting.
I like it.
I disagree. I think you're either using a weird audio device, or you're just easily annoyed/distracted.
Now, several plants produce chemicals that curd milk like rennet, if you dont have access to any of this plants! Well dont worry you can still curd milk by keeping it in warm conditions for several hours (keeping it close to an open fire or fireplace [but not so close it goes really hot it should be warm]) after that to skip the cheesecloth part you can use some woven cattail mats or a mold made out of ceramic material to press the whey out of the cheese, or you can just use a little ceramic strainer and get enough whey out to have a cottage cheese like thing
It's 3am where I live and I'm on the 10th one of her video..........................................help.................
Ah! Prehistoric cheese, my favorite.
The perfect video to watch while eating some good cheese!
What is rennet please, and how could I get some to try this. Thank you
Where did they get the rennet and how did they know to add it?
I want to see more pre historic cooking!
I like to watch these different how to’s Incase there’s a zombie apocalypse.
Do you have a link to that background music?
I don't know if I'm just the weird one or what, but I actually very much like the music.
Where did they get the info from ?
What did you put in the warm Milk?
What did they add to the milk?
Amazing music, omg ;_;
Can anyone know the title?
Amazing
Blessed Sunday friend
Omg i just did this yesterday!
Thankyou!😍🐄
What is the music?
where did the rennet came from?
We make the exact same process here in Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 and it’s called: Requesón.
Noone talked about where the renant would have come from or how they made the linen fabric. I wouldnt say this is prehistoric, that word makes ppl think of cave men but using milk and flax for linen wouldnt have been done until we started doing agriculture and keeping cattle. I wish we got more of the tine period, and history of where they got the linen, how they got the milk, how they got the renant (idk if that is spelt correctly lol). Idk there could have been so much more information given and it wasnt :/
Thank you.
The music is gorgeous! What is it?
Isn't that the pot from the How To Make A Prehistoric Pottery video ? XD
How in the world did prehistoric peoples figure out that rennet makes cheese, and how did they work out how to get it? And how did they make linen?
Man, this is interesting.
People still use this method to make cheese in Bulgaria, my grandma used to make it.
How did they know how to do it if its prehistoric?
What kind of rennet? Nettle rennet?
Penny bickle is a great name
What did she add to the milk??????
She added rennet which is an enzyme produced in the stomachs of certain mammals.
@@EnglishHeritage Did prehistoric people know this?
That's the 'whey' to make cheese (OK I won't give up the day job...)
Good one!
Not quite cheese, but more curd cheese or cottage cheese. And you can make it without rennet. You just need something acid to make soured milk. Or bread with yeast. Or you can wait - most of the time there are bacteria in or near by the milk and the milk will sour itself. Now you'll almost boil milk to kill the bacteria, but in prehistoric and in all, before refrigerators, the milk would sour and spoil and our ancestors would do anything not to lose precious food.
Did they keep Neolithic calves to harvest rennet from ? And were did they get Neolithic cheese cloth to strain it? The recipe is interesting, but I wish it had been presented more authentic to the period.
Thanks for the feedback Gerry. Unfortunately we don't have any direct evidence of where rennet would have been sourced from. We can safety assume that Neolithic people were using rather advanced textiles, like nettle and hemp fibres. Perhaps they strained the cheese through cloth like this? Archaeologists have even discovered perforated bowls used for cheese straining in Neolithic communities in Europe. If you'd like more information you can watch our livestream from Stonehenge: czcams.com/video/VdlyO3XH4J0/video.html
Omg that sound is so nerve wracking!! Aaahhhhh
The bgm driving me crazy
How to make something like rennet?
Eduardo Kiryu its from animal stomachs
You could substitute lemon juice. There are also extracts from some other plants that work but I can't bring any to mind. Traditionally, speaking for the region though I'm not sure what they used.
I suspect they found out by accident after storing milk in a calf’s stomach. The calf must be young enough to never have eaten grass. Their stomach changes after eating grass. I’m not sure if they had a lot of cows, but sheep were on the British/Welsh/Scottish islands long ago and their milk works the same way.
Dimora Galium verum is the plant you were searching for..
What you mean to ask is: how do I curd milk? Milk (from an animal into a jug) will curd if you do nothing more to it, it is rich in natural lactobacter that will acidify and set the milk proteins. Makes a great proto-yogurt and is the first step in making butter and butter milk. You can heat the curd and that will form a hard packed curd that is the first branching into cheeses like Ricotta and Paneer et al. Modern practice is to use an actual acid; vinegars or citric fruits. You can use animal extracts, rennet is an enzyme from the stomachs of unweened cows and sheep or you can use the lining skin from chicken gizzards. You can also use plants, thistle will curd cheese. The final enzyme that will cause the protiens to curd is extracted from fungle strains and is only doable in a lab setting. There are fundamental differences between each of the cheeses each of these production streams create but they are all tastey and worth exploring and enjoying.
Prehistoric cheesecloth?? That also looks like the pot the guy made in the other segment.
Did they really use rennet? Seems so ... sophisticated. Maybe they simply used vinegar?
I LOVE CHEESE 🧀
Tastes very milky: proceeds to eat solidified milk fat.....
Still made exactly with the same method in too many villages around the world, with the difference of shaping them into moulds.
Really good video but I wish they made the background music quieter in comparison to the people talking. It's really annoying!
Wonderful video, but the music is a bit scary :)
I would actually try this. I make other cheeses, so why not?
A commercial for burger king played before the video started. Ick
This sounds like a rebellious alarm clock.
I've noticed many comments about using lemons instead of rennet, but where would our pre-historic culinarians have found lemons? Penny and Susan commented quite a few times that the cheese tastes like ricotta or cottage cheese. I believe vinegar can be used in that cooking process. I must say that I came her from The Victorian Way hoping to find two cavemen throwing shade about cheese processing. Ah well......
Do you have to kill a cow to get the rinet?
Yes, the rennet is found in the stomach of animals which feed on plant based food.
I love the music... what is the title of it?? It's wonderful!!
Thank you, this piece of music was made especially for the video.
This is basically just a ricotta recipe, and you can substitute rennet for lemon juice.
1 mammoth cheese bowl added
I expected a prehistoric Mrs. Crocombe.
The first thing to do to make prehistoric cheese is to start a looooooooooooooong time ago.
Hey, that's the pot from another episode!
What did she add to the milk?
weirdlyobsessed Okay
Hayaku Eon Hayaku Eon 'Rennet' It's an enzyme from the stomachs of young ruminating animals. It helps them digest the protein from the milk, since they are otherwise plant eaters. In cheesemaking it curdles the milk, allowing you to remove superflous liquid. I think. Not an expert ☺
Rara Avis What can subtitute it if I were to make my own cottage cheese?
Hayaku Eon Uh, not my metier...it's just information I randomly picked up somewhere. I do know though, that there is an artificial substitute...they don't usually use real rennin anymore, obviously. And I know from cooking channels that people use lemon juice or other acidic liquids to curdle milk/soymilk. I'm sure a suitable recipe will be easy to find!
LagiNaLangAko23 Probably someone somewhere used a dry calf stomach as a receptacle to temporarily store or transport milk....and it curdled...and that's how they got the idea.
Someone buy me one.
this music is terrifying!
Um where's the head seervant lady that cooks for us?
The music is really cool, stop whining about it
There's so much missing here, which really doesn't allow the viewer to learn what was actually involved in prehistoric cheesemaking.
You didn't show how the rennet was made. You used a cheesecloth, which probably isn't prehistoric and i wonder if cheese back then was even made with rennet or maybe with some plant or nothing at all (spoiled milk).
They should have used unpasteurized milk.
It's difficult to get hold of in the UK, most milk is pasteurized.
Could barely hear what they said over the music!
Don't eat the tomb cheese, Susan.
Cool stuff! But lol uhmm... That music is too much...lordt,,,
Theyre making dinosaur cheese?!! hahahahaha
Critical control
How ? Did ? They ? Get ? The? Rennet????
Rennet was found in the stomachs of animals young enough to still have milk as their primary food source, such as calves and lambs.
English Heritage ohhhh thanks
"Would you stop with the damn drummen!!!!!!"
*Adam Sandler off camera looks up*
"Oh, I'm sorry."
😂😂😂😂😂
Music is way over the top.
I'm quite sure they didn't have rinin😑
What "prahistoric"? I make cheese every year for Easter pascha-cake.
I’d rather Miss Crocombe.