Gran Turismo Sport Just Got KILLED (Watch This)

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  • čas přidán 28. 09. 2023
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Komentáře • 143

  • @ironmanTetsuoTV
    @ironmanTetsuoTV Před 9 měsíci +18

    GT Sport was the right game at the right time, I went from a casual pad player using auto gearbox to a full sim rig and had so much fun. Big thanks to you and all the other streamers that helped pull us all together.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thank you for being there!!

  • @andrewgoldsmith9764
    @andrewgoldsmith9764 Před 9 měsíci +20

    nothing lasts forever 😢 RIP GT Sport

  • @supercededman
    @supercededman Před 9 měsíci +6

    Indeed, Kireth, very sad. I started simracing - aged 59 - at the end of 2019, following you, Rory, Ollie and Charlie in team ROCK.
    As you said, very special times, perhaps when Gran Tursimo peaked. Again, as you suggested, the COVID lockdowns fostered this sense of community.
    I can still play Sport offline with my treasured disc. I might buy another just in case. I'd love to see you make a video featuring your Sport memorable moments - a tribute.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Maybe a legends race!!

  • @KCR_T-66
    @KCR_T-66 Před 9 měsíci +6

    GT Sport got me further down the rabbit hole, besides GT racing and reaching that A+, digging deeper into Touge racing, GTS was my prime time of drifting on a rather high level with a japanese team and i will never forget that time and also it teached me a lot which i could translate to other disciplines, GTS basically had a huge impact on my skillset
    R.I.P. GT Sport

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci +2

      Respect for the game 🙌🙌🙌

  • @starsdagamer2666
    @starsdagamer2666 Před 9 měsíci +4

    This is so sad to hear, GT Sport was a big part of my past on ps4 had it since 2017, tons of great memories with friends I made playing multiplayer, if it wasn’t for this game I wouldn’t have met them, rip GT Sport 😢

  • @leastresistance1062
    @leastresistance1062 Před 9 měsíci +17

    RIP GTSport.
    But... there's really nothing you could do there that you can't do on GT7.
    I think most of the affection is nostalgia, nothing wrong with that, but it's more to do with you and what you were doing at the time than the game itself. I'm an old man now and have been there before.
    But hey. Soon I will be A+ rated on GT7, bring it on. I'll see you there, maybe 😀

    • @Kiproll26
      @Kiproll26 Před 9 měsíci

      You might see me furiously banging against a tyre wall, sure

  • @jestexgarcia3601
    @jestexgarcia3601 Před 9 měsíci

    Hey. Question! I need help from absolutely N E 1. I have done 52 races on GT7 Sport. Its suppose to pop a trophy at 50 races finished. Anyone know why it doesn't work? Do I have to place in top 3, 50 times??

  • @dimprian0079
    @dimprian0079 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Fave gt sport moment was finishing first in a Greek tournament and getting an invitation to drive the Ford GT Le mans car 😢 I can't forget that day ! It was the last day that I truly felt happy it has all been downhill from then 😔

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci +2

      damn that's huge!!

    • @scottd7222
      @scottd7222 Před 9 měsíci

      You OK dude?

    • @dimprian0079
      @dimprian0079 Před 9 měsíci

      @@scottd7222 yes always just very unlucky !

  • @Cloaker86
    @Cloaker86 Před 9 měsíci

    this is really sad, i have many memories from this game, hope modders will find a way to revive it even if its on PC

  • @Trevisio
    @Trevisio Před 9 měsíci +2

    Will miss GT Sport online for many reasons, 1 example being in TT daily race qualifying it’s always exactly the same conditions, unlike in GT7.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci +2

      always a pleasure racing you in gts!

  • @The_BenboBaggins
    @The_BenboBaggins Před 9 měsíci +4

    Hopefully they will switch the servers to GT7 duties!

  • @JimmyBeanz13
    @JimmyBeanz13 Před 9 měsíci +1

    That stinks, but it helped me learn the tracks b4 I moved on to GT7. I just got GT7 last month and achieved A/S rating last night. Practicing for manufacturers cup tomorrow now. It got me into SIM racing, and now have all the equipment ordered to raise the bar.

  • @prostreetbeetdhd4586
    @prostreetbeetdhd4586 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Like others i created soo many liveries. I personally uploaded MANY decals that a load of ppl downloaded and thanked me for. Took soo many requests for personal decals too.
    I'm not shocked tho.

  • @Techforlife280
    @Techforlife280 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have a question I am still able to buy new cars and to races and everything saves.what is happening.why can I do it but not others

  • @digitalfootballer9032
    @digitalfootballer9032 Před 9 měsíci +3

    The liveries being inaccessible is the worst part for me. I spent many hours creating some pretty good ones and now they are just going to vanish? Or do you retain ones you already made and just can't do new ones? My personal favourite was i made the pace car into a Mad Max Main Force Patrol car.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci

      can you export to gt7? Most of KCR did this

  • @TheLanieKid
    @TheLanieKid Před 9 měsíci

    Hopefully more effort goes into more stable GT7 updates now

  • @subarusportcenter.S.S.C
    @subarusportcenter.S.S.C Před 9 měsíci +1

    I am playing granturismo for 25 years!i am 41 now and gt sport was my first gran turismo playing with steering wheel not pad..and i instantly fall in love with gt sport and the whole online experience!!it made me a better player for sure and i am enjoying gt7 from A+ dr level know and that is thanks to gt sport!!!

  • @kelvingomersall7460
    @kelvingomersall7460 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Gt Sport cost me a lot of money and got me competitive. Got a G29 at the start of Covid for 103£ + 20£ bean bag + 6£ Ikea table, and that was my rig. Due to the sheer number of people online, I wanted better gear and ended up modifying my G29, CSL Elite & CSL DD, all in about 18 months. I don't think I could NOT play GT now. I will never financially recover from this ha.

  • @wavyvibesradio
    @wavyvibesradio Před 9 měsíci

    I have both games and gt7 got me back into the franchise I love. I like sport and the realism but I also like that tuning plays a big part in gt7.

    • @zak8866
      @zak8866 Před 5 měsíci

      What's the point of playing sport when gt7 is out lmao, its the same engine, 7 has more cars, better graphics, and more tracks

  • @balexander1658
    @balexander1658 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The same nostalgia you speak of is still available for those who played GT before "always online". I can go back and play GT4 whenever I want to. It's not dependent on servers or developers maintenance or even because the developer shuts the game down.
    I will never pay for a game again that I can't play when I want for how long I want without sacrifice. Basically companies are saying " thanks for the money suckers, now go away". Those who bought GTS payed for the game, the dlc and will be left with shell of the game when it dies. Lesson learned.

  • @Tacko14
    @Tacko14 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the warning. I’ve got a truckload of liveries waiting for me to import them into gt7. Since you have to publish them in gts first, I’m suddenly in a hurry

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci

      no worries bro!

  • @chrisroberts6860
    @chrisroberts6860 Před 5 měsíci +1

    i deleted my GT sport profile and restarted. kinda funny to race in the 66 bug again!

  • @xbdger
    @xbdger Před 6 měsíci

    I played gt sport since i was 5 (im 10 now), Im sad it shut down since I collected hundreds of cars, i never got good at it but i did have hundreds of cars inclyding the fastest car in the game. I did recently get Gran turismo 7 and thats still really fun

  • @MsSirAndy
    @MsSirAndy Před 9 měsíci

    I hope that from now on they will focus everything on improving GT7 and giving us what we need and want. Please, PD!

    • @AppleLauda_destroyer99942
      @AppleLauda_destroyer99942 Před 9 měsíci +1

      if they don't I will send them to Nürburg personally (it's a meme I invented, don't worry)

  • @bantuatha
    @bantuatha Před 9 měsíci +1

    To me on GT7, it sort of feels like GT sport since everything is ported over to a new gen. When the GT8 happens the same fate for year later, over and over repeat cycle. I've never own nor played GT sport before same to GT6. Last gen I played is GT5...

  • @user-zm2oq4vb7l
    @user-zm2oq4vb7l Před 9 měsíci

    Games like this ending make me wonder if there is a business model for a third party to host servers for old unsupported games like this. IDK there are probably a lot problems that I don't understand but it seems they would be a audience and customer base for it.

  • @snow_bound266
    @snow_bound266 Před 9 měsíci

    i just recently got back in to gran tourismo and never played GT Sport. Will any of these changes impact features on GT7 online racing?

  • @TheMeefive
    @TheMeefive Před 9 měsíci

    My favorite memory of Gran Tourism Sport was when it was replaced ed with GT7

  • @Dzasmina2304
    @Dzasmina2304 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Nostalgic 😢

  • @nighthawk9532
    @nighthawk9532 Před 9 měsíci

    As long as races are still usable on offline then I’m ok with it, I always go back to previous games every now and then

  • @4wheelgamer101
    @4wheelgamer101 Před 9 měsíci

    I've just started playing on it aswell, is there any decent racing groups

  • @vvoof2601
    @vvoof2601 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Sad??? We have 7. And 7 has sport mode as well. Why would they need two games with the same feature?

    • @fondfarewell2
      @fondfarewell2 Před 9 měsíci +1

      sport mode in gts is still superior to gt7s sport mode.

    • @vvoof2601
      @vvoof2601 Před 9 měsíci

      @@fondfarewell2 I've had much more success and fun on 7 than I did with sport. Played both since launch. Have a good one.

    • @Cloaker86
      @Cloaker86 Před 9 měsíci

      ik but when you think about it GTS still has content GT7 doesnt and has way more events
      i feel they did this to just cut corners cus i cant really think of a reason for this

    • @vvoof2601
      @vvoof2601 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Cloaker86 I admit I can't refute your point about the content.

  • @biggpapaclay
    @biggpapaclay Před 9 měsíci +1

    Damn bruh I literally just got the game a few weeks ago to play gran turismo with my friend. WTF

  • @heneganov
    @heneganov Před 9 měsíci

    The online races on GTS never work anymore. I get disconnected from at least 3 out of 4 that I try to join. Waste of time. But why is that I wonder? Maybe it's intentional.

  • @Keenzan
    @Keenzan Před 5 měsíci

    Gt sport was my first ps4 racing game sad to see it die😢

  • @davmac6148
    @davmac6148 Před 2 měsíci

    I loved to create livery, I also had great time racing online

  • @gianluu-_-
    @gianluu-_- Před 9 měsíci +2

    I gotta be honest, GTS gave me really great feelings

    • @scottd7222
      @scottd7222 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Loved the soundtrack.. melancholy by Lenny was the banger

  • @Agent-mb1xx
    @Agent-mb1xx Před 9 měsíci

    No wonder why it was on sale twice in the last months, both versions like the Spec-II
    As long I can progress and gain new cars offline it is all that I care

    • @Cloaker86
      @Cloaker86 Před 9 měsíci

      you cant, the game has stupid online save system so its quite litteraly impossible to do anything after that date

  • @granautismo42069
    @granautismo42069 Před 6 měsíci

    If it gets shut down can i still play it offline?

  • @Filmore1991
    @Filmore1991 Před 9 měsíci

    Knowing I bought this game as a gold edition just for them to shut down the server and i'm losing all my stuff. I'm not happy about that. Which is why I am now playing Assetto Corsa on PC now. Why? Its not online required to play and can throw loads of cool car and track mods to the game.

  • @scottd7222
    @scottd7222 Před 9 měsíci

    I can see Kaz rubbing his hands together for the Envitable Gran Turismo live services that will be the unnumbered online only no single player Future hell we are heading to.

  • @marksimpson1007
    @marksimpson1007 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Sport died when ps5 came out along with gt7 and vr surprised its lasted this long.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci

      sport will never die 🙌🙌

    • @marksimpson1007
      @marksimpson1007 Před 9 měsíci

      @Kireth it's dead. My condolences 🙏 🤣🤣 get over it.and I bought motorfest based on your review and I thinks it's brill.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci

      thanks man I only do the best reviews 🙌🙌🙌

  • @Tj930
    @Tj930 Před 9 měsíci

    It turns software "purchase" into "renting" / "leasing"

  • @niveketihw1897
    @niveketihw1897 Před 9 měsíci

    GT Sport was kind of like Unreal Tournament or Quake 3 Arena?

  • @Lacktausch
    @Lacktausch Před 9 měsíci +1

    Be honest, during the pandemic you weren‘t working during the day and racing in the evenings. You were just racing most of the time. 😊

  • @sergehercot-gh4io
    @sergehercot-gh4io Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bonjour, suis addict a GTSPORT, dommage que ce jeu se termine.😊

  • @fatshartspunhouse2403
    @fatshartspunhouse2403 Před 9 měsíci

    Not only have they killed GT7, they’ve also gone back and murdered its parent

  • @pk_supra
    @pk_supra Před 9 měsíci

    we can still play 'sport' in GT7 right? you didnt mention that at all, maybe intentionally?

  • @Datacorrupter234
    @Datacorrupter234 Před 6 měsíci

    still playing gt5/ gt6 onmy ps3 😂 to this day im still waiting until something worthwhile comes out for ps5

  • @paulmcgeever5343
    @paulmcgeever5343 Před 9 měsíci

    Gt6 was the last game that will be a collectors item and continue to be a playable game. Once kaz and sony decided to go always online that was the end of gaming as we knew it. So glad i haven't bought into the whole next gen thing as i still play on ps4 and GT7 which of course will go the same way. So glad i have kept my ps2 &3 as i can always revisit the GT games i love. Sony like Microsoft are taking gaming in a direction that benefits them and not the gamer. It's all about money now !

  • @The_BenboBaggins
    @The_BenboBaggins Před 9 měsíci +1

    Big lobbies in GT Sport - 20 cars in race C at least!

  • @The_BenboBaggins
    @The_BenboBaggins Před 9 měsíci

    I picked up GT Sport in the Panademik, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times...

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci +1

      ride together die together

  • @rio8677
    @rio8677 Před 9 měsíci

    At least they need to patch it so events can still be played

  • @AppleLauda_destroyer99942
    @AppleLauda_destroyer99942 Před 9 měsíci

    I used to destroy people on the EMEA server on the Nordschleife... it can't just end... I'm the Nürburgring God after all. I love wrestling my car around the Nordschleife. GT7 is a piece of trash in terms of driving physics. Cars understeer under braking and snap oversteer isn't fixed yet...
    And besides of that, I could use Ayrton Senna's driving style on GT Sport

  • @DandyWaves
    @DandyWaves Před 9 měsíci

    I tried playing yesterday. Cars just dont feel right compared to GT7 also at leaat GT7 pen system works a bit more than sport.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci

      more understeery

  • @Alharmoudi10
    @Alharmoudi10 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I like the way u are responding to most of the comments .. we wish u the best for your hard work.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thanks bro 🙌🙌🙌

  • @kevinkibler2181
    @kevinkibler2181 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I 100% agree with you. GT Sport was amazing. So many great memories of epic races.

  • @jimmysouders5640
    @jimmysouders5640 Před 7 měsíci

    I like gran Turismo sport on this game you can start a new game but gran Turismo 7 you can't start over again

  • @alexharris6738
    @alexharris6738 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi all
    1st question can you play Grand Turismo sport on playstation 5?
    And finally can you play Grand Turismo sport offline mode to play career mode without requiring Internet connection?
    Many thanks

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 3 měsíci +1

      i'm not sure bro

  • @PaiChen
    @PaiChen Před 9 měsíci

    It’s life, something born, and something dead.
    When GT8 growing, and you will sad end to GT7

  • @user-cw6vn9yk1u
    @user-cw6vn9yk1u Před 9 měsíci

    All hands needed for gt8 ps5 exclusive

  • @zanychelly
    @zanychelly Před 8 měsíci

    What do you expect? For it be online until 2030?
    At least they are removing the always online requirement for those who only play offline.
    It is a 6 years old game dude, that has a successor with plenty of action online.
    Also, you it was online for more time than GT5 and GT6.

  • @hectorramirez3711
    @hectorramirez3711 Před 8 měsíci

    I've been a long time fan of Gran Turismo and I barely started playing Sport just this week, and the fact they did this really infuriates me. They just turned into a bunch of cash grabbing Assholes. Even Call Of Duty still has all of there titles online still. This is so disappointing and I refuse to even play 7 because it's so terrible.

  • @nicktronson2977
    @nicktronson2977 Před 9 měsíci

    R.I.P. Gran Turismo 2.

  • @101wilku101
    @101wilku101 Před 9 měsíci

    Everyone who plays GT sport is in gt7 from beginning. Who plays old online multiplayer games ?

  • @DILUSI
    @DILUSI Před 9 měsíci +1

    Sucks for everyone who bought cars from the ps store

  • @user-wb6zs6nq7h
    @user-wb6zs6nq7h Před 9 měsíci

    It can't be killed!

  • @wifidoorbellguy4351
    @wifidoorbellguy4351 Před 4 měsíci

    This is why i buy the physical disk.

  • @MattyH73
    @MattyH73 Před 9 měsíci

    “Anyhow, moving on” - Jeremy Clarkson

  • @AiBilly
    @AiBilly Před 9 měsíci

    I don`t miss it because i never had it 🤣

  • @ras_732
    @ras_732 Před 9 měsíci

    I reckon over 90% of people have moved over to GT7 by now at least. Plus all of Sport's content is on 7 anyway.
    No doubt people will all of a sudden care about GT Sport like they did with Gravity Rush 2 and Everybody's Golf (Both Sony games that recently shut the servers down), if it mean they can regurgitate the "Sony are anti consumer" comment.

    • @Cloaker86
      @Cloaker86 Před 9 měsíci +1

      i have moved on to GT7 but ill admit there are many things that just arent the same to me, plus i have a lot of memories from my cars in that game so losing them is kinda sad

  • @goran3149
    @goran3149 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Well I want my money back

  • @vjekoslavk9455
    @vjekoslavk9455 Před 8 měsíci

    I hate this.. Now platinum is unobtainable..

  • @Lrules364
    @Lrules364 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Honestly, you people deserve this. If you didn't catch on by GT6, you never will. They are FORCING you to upgrade every few years. Instead of releasing dlc like the old days, they are making the same game every few years, and reselling it to you as a brand new title. And now that they're able to do this as 'live service ', it's just gonna get worse. You're going to lose everything once gt7 is shut down. All the progress you made will be wiped out. All so they can sell you a shiney new gt8 disc. If you'd stop supporting this company and demand better from them, they'd actually listen. But you keep buying into it every time, so you deserve it.
    If you're sick of the crap, go buy Forza horizon or Forza 7 and stay there. They are complete games you can play offline, and they have great dlc.

  • @Kiproll26
    @Kiproll26 Před 9 měsíci

    Literally just reinstalled it 😂

  • @Adz187
    @Adz187 Před 9 měsíci

    I enjoyed this game so much more than gt7

  • @OZIPUG1970
    @OZIPUG1970 Před 9 měsíci

    If it allows more hands on deck for improving gt7 im all for it.

  • @paulhadley5754
    @paulhadley5754 Před 9 měsíci

    gutted i love the gt games but i must admit i am losing faith in pd and PlayStation

  • @robertbjerknes9916
    @robertbjerknes9916 Před 9 měsíci

    More top shelf content, thank you Kireth. (BattlemyRipple)

  • @thewidowmaker4037
    @thewidowmaker4037 Před 9 měsíci

    Okay cards on the table....genuinely when was the last time you played it, me myself probably just before GT7 came out.....amd thats the problem who's playing it now? So lets lose the crocodile tears. There are some things GTS did better like the circuit experience in GTS it was in a central hub where all the tracks that had circuit experience were in one place. Thats not the case in GT7 its spread all over the place. I also liked the Green and Orange sector triangles that would appear on screen for every sector. GTS was more forgiving than GT7 take the death chicane at Dragons Trail its so much more forgiving than GT7. I'm gopmg to be hammering GTS for the remaining trophies before they pull the plug in Jan 2024. GTS RIP old friend.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci +1

      damn heart of stone!

    • @thewidowmaker4037
      @thewidowmaker4037 Před 9 měsíci

      I jest, i for one am going to be hammering GTS over the next few months to get the four remaining trophies, I can't tell you how many hours i've played across both the GTS Beta and GTS. It will be a sad day when they pull the plug.@@Kireth

  • @Doctor-Detroit
    @Doctor-Detroit Před 9 měsíci +6

    Meh... GTS is 7yrs on with GT7 being the better option anyhow... If anyone is still streaming GTS then they need to move on. Time carries on.

    • @andrewmadrigal3652
      @andrewmadrigal3652 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Some people can’t afford 70$ gotta use that brain my guy lol

    • @vvoof2601
      @vvoof2601 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@andrewmadrigal3652 So then they should still have online lobbies for GT5 and 6 right as people can't afford Ps4s and 5s. They can't keep running services forever and most games unfortunately do lose their online components after a certain time. That brain needs to be more active for you as well.

    • @scottd7222
      @scottd7222 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@andrewmadrigal3652 If you can't afford GT7 you have other issues 😂 maybe sim racing ain't for you

    • @Cloaker86
      @Cloaker86 Před 9 měsíci

      we will lose the game tho in case youre to stupid to realize but GTS had online saves so all that has gone to the bin

    • @tea_with-mint
      @tea_with-mint Před 9 měsíci

      Polyphony should not close any game
      That includes gt5 gt6 gts
      People bought these games with their own money
      They have the right to play these games whenever and however they want
      No one should stop the service for the old games
      Just like old shooters like cod and battlefield and team fortress 2

  • @justinslife8898
    @justinslife8898 Před 6 měsíci

    Well then I feel we are entitled to a small refund....

  • @TanzilaSahi
    @TanzilaSahi Před 9 měsíci +3

    Third gold

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci

      Bro how do you do this 🏆

  • @OGSomeOne
    @OGSomeOne Před 4 měsíci

    Yeah but it is a given. A Japanese company makes a new game. They commit sepuko on the older version to breath life into the new game. It's part of their society.

  • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
    @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Před 9 měsíci

    😁👍

  • @chrispalmer8861
    @chrispalmer8861 Před 9 měsíci

    Well you have done nothing but big up Forza and slag off GT anyway lately, so stick to selling your t shirts!

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Před 9 měsíci

      big up need for speed!

  • @ExodiaNecross2
    @ExodiaNecross2 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Good riddance, don't make another GT sport game its The worst ever don't even attempt to make GT SPORT 2 won't miss Gt sport at all shame. It's not shutting down sooner than 2024.

  • @chrisSVT
    @chrisSVT Před 9 měsíci +16

    This is better than GT7. GT7 is a joke. I'm not a teenager with a ton of free time. Looks like I'm done with the gran Turismo series. I'll buy Forza instead.

    • @AppleLauda_destroyer99942
      @AppleLauda_destroyer99942 Před 9 měsíci +1

      yeah, same here...

    • @AlexdR93
      @AlexdR93 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Forza is also online singleplayer like gt 7 or sport

    • @falcongamer58
      @falcongamer58 Před 9 měsíci +6

      About Forza...

    • @zanychelly
      @zanychelly Před 8 měsíci +2

      lol… sure pal. Opinions are like farts, everyone is entitled to have one.
      GT7 is way better than Sport, on basically everything. Dude is holding on a nostalgia trying to create drama and you are buying it.

    • @AppleLauda_destroyer99942
      @AppleLauda_destroyer99942 Před 8 měsíci

      @@zanychelly then tell me snap oversteer is realistic... It happens to me all the time, even with a little amount of steering. Car understeers under braking like ABS is non-existent...
      Sport did a better job there