Thanks for this video!! It helped me know that Grant stone's Crimson Chromexcel Brass Boot is the right gateway drug for me to try out excellently-made footwear!
@@ramblr5900 I'm not roseanvil, but he does address your question about 9 minutes into the video. I can tell you that when you see the toe of the last sticking upward a bit that it reflects in the Brass boot having extra vertical wiggle-room for your toes. So the toe box is actually pretty roomy & comfortable. You're more likely to feel some initial tightness towards your instep/ball-of-foot, but the insole & chromexcel will break in to be less-snug. While they feel good right away, they will feel even better after a couple weeks.
It’s nice that you’re very up front about Grant Stone sponsoring the video and I’m not saying that anything in this video is factually incorrect. It’s quite helpful to see inside one of these very hyped boots. I do worry that the tone of your sponsored videos can verge on the flattering, fawning and gushing, especially in contrast to your other videos, but I’m open to being proved wrong! I enjoy the series immensely, even more so this year than last, so keep it up.
@@Muscovy7They've already raised their prices last year from $360 to $380. It's only a matter of time before they sell them at $400. I have two pairs. One used and one new. They make great boots
I have this exact boot and just love everything about it. The cxl smell, the color, the roomy last, the different moctoe stitching, and the rugged yet dressy look. Ive gone on lighter trails as well as to bars and dinner, they fit many situations. Knowing how well built they are makes me love them even more.
Do they actually fit .5 size down from your normal size? Wondering is they mean .5 size down from your sneaker size or dress shoe size. I’m a 10d in Alden but an 11 in sneakers.
@@Sdr___ I think they do! I went true to size according to my brannock but I'm pretty sure I could go down a half size in these (Floyd last). Don't think I could do the same with their Leo last.
@@Sdr___ I just received a pair of these today. I normally wear 10E brannock, and ordered 9.5E per their guidance with some hesitation. These fit **exactly** like they should, with just a touch of extra room in the toe. So it turns out to be correct to order 1/2-size smaller than your brannock size. I've got them on to break in now, and the only challenging aspect is all the leather is stiff and needs time to mold to my feet.
I recently put some new rubber lifts on a Grant Stone boots at my shoe repair shop. I'm 64 and a third-generation cobbler who also operates a separate footwear retail store originally started by my father in 1946 after he got back from serving in WW II (i was born years later in 1959 when my dad was almost 46). As such, I've grown up in the industry. I remember robust construction as a child. By the time I took over in 1982 it was hard to find any shoes without compromises. The Grant Stone boot I worked on was a total throwback. Absolutely no compromises could I identify. I sell some high-quality USA-made boots that I am proud to sell, and the Grant Stone's construction (the ones I'm selling are not direct competitors as they're more in the work mode) rises above anything I've seen since I was a youngster - just up taking the shoe business from my father. Grant Stone construction has my total respect.
Sadly true. It would be much better if these well made shoes were made here. The Chinese people are great, the government is corrupt and deadly. Not a country we should support in any way if we face cold hard facts.
@@AudioFileZ are you aware of how corrupt and deadly your government is? I liked your first comment but now I can see you're just another brainwashed ignorant with zero self-awareness.
Generally, yeah, but any company who does sponsor the video is going to know that Wes is going to cut them in half, and show close ups of the construction in 4k. No company who makes shit/wants to buy marketing just to increase profits would EVER sponsor one of his videos. Because, again, it's not just an entertainment vid or an advertisement, he is going to cut that shit in half and you are going to SEE the quality. Any would be sponsors will know this, and the one's who elect to still sponsor anyway are all going to be the ones with nothing to hide.
It's like all the Thursday ones, every channel fawns over them, meanwhile they have terrible ratings for customer service and build quality. It makes it hard to trust any youtuber
@@HourRomanticist These are his opinions. It may be a sponsored video, but he accepted to work with them because he believes in the product. Or perhaps he even went to them to propose them to make this video.
I have 4 pairs of Grant Stones, love them immensely. I started buying high quality boots a little more than a year ago and now I can really appreciate a good set of boots. Love my Parkhurst, Trumans and Red Wings as well. I hate cemented throwaway boots that I have brought my whole life, they only last about a year.
Question: Has Rose Anvil ever given a negative review to a company who has sponsored their CZcams channel? The fact that Grant Stone is sponsoring this video substantially reduces the reviewer’s credibility.
I agree. I have noticed this too lol. But given all the info you know about leather boots, can you think of a boot under 400 that has all these features though?
@alwayserik He blew through those features awful fast to nervously wax on and on about the superiority of this product. This whole video smacks of insincerity.
Sponsored means it's an ad. Compare this video to any others that aren't sponsored and there were no criticisms for the grant stones. He just glosses over anything that was a con. I'm sure it's a nice boot, but it's not treated the same as others.
I own three pair of Grant Stones (including my all-time favorites, Edward boots in Maduro shell). All of them are impeccably made with outstanding materials and quality control. I am not sure who else makes footwear of this quality for this price point.
I mean the story of the brand tells you everything you need to know. This wasn't some venture capitalist who didn't know the industry deciding to make a brand and get his stuff made at some factory that won a bid. This is a guy who grew up in the industry in and around the family factory in Xiamen his whole life who decided to make a brand out of the factory they already owned that was just white labelling for other brands. A real case of a shoemaker deciding to make a brand instead of a brandmaker deciding to sell shoes.
I just got my belt from you guys. Its so simple yet so much better than any other belt I have ever had. I can also confirm Horween chromexcel smells incredible.
I have the Brass boot in 3 different leathers in 3 mockups. I have the Saddle Tan wedge and then the Honey glazed shell and Earth versions of the log sole. I’ve worn the Earth on multiple Arizona mountain hikes. They are amazing boots.
A few years back, I was deciding on a pair of 1000 Miles or Iron Rangers as my first pair of quality GYW boots. The price tag was steep and after some further research I ended up grabbing a pair of GS Brass boots in black CXL instead. Since then my boot collection has grown a little, but my Brass boots are still my most worn and favourite pair. Quality is up with some of the best and the value is unmatched. The company obviously cares about maintaining a high standard as well as innovating and expanding their product. They cater to diverse widths and also offer a women's range. So versatile, looks great, hard to fault the team at Grant Stone
Great review as usual. The only thing I miss in your reviews is the "how the boots fit" or the "correct sizing" section. Because it's a huge area of concern to all of us who have to order online and dislike sending ordered boots back.
One thing about the GS lasts is that they're very anatomical and forgiving in terms of sizing. Much like Alden I can wear multiple sizes in GS and they all fit better than most boots of any size.
I found the last to be very strange and unlike any other boots I've tried or own. With Grant Stone, you only get one exchange before you have to start paying restocking fees. They only allow positive reviews to be posted to their website, so I find them to be a bit dubious. Boots appear to be of great quality, but I didn't feel like the company was very honest.
Can't argue with the quality I just find something offputting about a US company cribbing traditional American designs and making it in China for a profit. I'd rather pay $100 more to know the person who made it had decent worker protections and pay in the US/Canada or Japan.
thank you for making this video. when i heard that you were doing an alden alternatives series for this moctober i was really hoping you would cover this boot. i’ve been thinking about picking up a pair of these for awhile and you just made my decision a whole lot easier.
Hands down there is no better boot for the money. I own 9 pairs of Grant Stone’s. I wear and love every pair. Being made in China does not change my mind in the least. The company sets the quality standard and they are meticulously made to those standards. It’s a win win in my eyes. I also support quality American made boots. 7 pairs of Nick’s, 4 pairs of White’s, 2 pairs of Truman’s and 1 pair of JK. All beautifully crafted and hand made. Hell, Weston even got me to bite on Muggs out of the UK and I have now bought 3 pairs of those over the last year. To me quality hand made footwear is the single best thing you can do for your feet, body and lifestyle.
@@briandarlage9815 A bot! LOL, that’s funny. No, definitely not a bot but you are correct on the fact I really love boots. We all got our crutches and mine happens to be the absolute beauty of handmade leather boots. The boots I didn’t mention are my 2 pairs of Red Wings, 2 pairs of Helm’s, 1 pair of Allen Edmonds, 2 pairs of Danner’s and 2 pairs of Thursday. I guess that puts me at 32 pairs.
@BlueSpirit. with Grant Stones I usually go a half size down from my Brannock size of 8.5D. My Field Boots are all 8D except for my reverse Kudu Field boots. They are a 7.5D and fit well because the leather is so soft.
Well, no sooner did I comment on the Allen Edmonds moc-toe video and hope for Grant Stone, did you drop this one on what I consider their signature boot. Bravo, Rose Anvil.! For those of us who have been screaming from the rooftops, Grant Stone is an excellent boot and value. I am glad to have come to them at this point before prices inevitably rise, and the boots I own will be classic examples. I exhort potential buyers to dial in as well as you can with the sizing, because they do run a bit larger. I am a 10.5E Brannock and found a good fit after trial in the 10.5 D and 10E. It takes some getting used to the higher sidewalls, it is quite a different and unique feel, but one grows accustomed to the wiggle room. It will take some walking around to adjust to the weight, but it is doable after a few hours of wear time and only points to the extra weight being a result of the quality materials used to make the boot. Although folks will inevitably make the Indy bandwagon comparison, I don't because this boot is in a class of its own. If you care about quality, workmanship, construction and materials, no more need be said. I will go you a step further in saying if you are trying to compare this boot to Allen Edmonds, the Alden Indy, a Thursday offering and you are talking about quality workmanship and components you are simply either being biased or irrational. The MIC argument is personal preference and I don't begrudge anyone their druthers. As a shoe collector I have shoes from around the globe and recommend this line if you are interested in the boots more than politics. I own this boot in several configurations and leathers and am totally happy with them. It took me about 2 years of research and comparisons to pull the trigger and I am glad I did. Back to sizing. I sized down a bit to get a sleeker profile on these and it does give them a dressier look. And I agree that if the Floyd last is too tall or roomy, the Ottawa boot may be more one's cup of tea. I own those, and the LWB Grant Stone offers. The Ottawa seems to be a bit of the reverse of your video, it is more of a dress boot, that has inroads as a casual wear that is rugged enough to venture towards a work book feel. The split toe gives them more of a dress boot look. In short, you can't go wrong with adding Grant Stone to your collection and I for one, am sure most will be happy they did. Their CS and QC are also superlative. They move the product quickly and are super fast on returns. Thanks so much for a very timely review.
Our company was on the forefront with a couple others in introducing LiFePO4 (lithium iron phosphate) batteries into the golf cart market. We worked with several cell and bms manufacturers, which led us to a common distributor of the two final manufacturers that specialized in complete battery assemblies. My biggest learning experience is that Chinese manufacturers will sell you just about anything to fit your budget. You want cheap garbage, they'll sell you it. You want world class quality, they got that too. So the next time you walk into a store in the US and pick up a POS product that's made in China, be upset with the US distributor that's specifically ordering bottom of the barrel quality to meet their 200+% profit margin.
I think the Jim Green boots are the best value for money and I can't wait for their new boot to be released (and reviewed/cut in half by Rose Anvil), because it looks awesome! My wider feet love my African Rangers. But I must say that I haven't tried a Grant Stone boot yet, and these look great.
This is why your channel has value (and followers). I wouldn’t have considered GS before this because of the China stigma. Seeing what’s inside and how the construction is performed tells the the story of quality. Without this video I’d have never considered GS. Well done!!!!
I bought my Brass Boots 3 years ago after a bad experience with a pair of Alden Indys. So glad I returned the Aldens and bought the Brass Boots. After that purchase, I now have a pair of the cap toes and Ottawas. If I would have known about this company when I was 1st getting into boots, I would have bought the Diesels instead of the Wolverine Evans that were my first GW boots 4 years ago.
Hello Rose Anvil Have you considered cutting up a Carolina gold moc toe? Those are made in Mexico and cost $299. Looks decent. I really hope you look into that
I will say I bought a pair of the exact boots you reviewed and paid full price. The hook eyelets at the top of both boots were loose and would wiggle back and forth and spin. And both boots have an air squish sound when I walk. I contacted their customer service rep who stated it is normal for the hooks to be loose, but if they fall out to contact them and they would send replacement hooks! I have never personally had a pair of boots that the speed hooks would spin on. Even cheap ones.
I have the Brass Boot in Burgundy Kudu. Every time I put it on, I'm blown away! Super comfortable and the fit is perfect. I'm a 7.7 wide D and the 7D is just right!!
They did. All these reviews are paid. Rumor is that he sends a media kit to every boot company in the industry. If you want to know who doesn’t pay the tax, simply look for the boot brands never reviewed.
I love my Grant Stones. I have the Ottawa style and I wear it to work, business casual, all the time. I get tons of compliments on them, but not as many as when I wear my Tafts. These are the second most solid boots I have next to my Nick's. I keep eyeballing a second pair for my collection.
Really good review...as per normal. I have this exact boot from Grant Stone and after a year it is still amazing. Best bang for the buck and easy to break in. Had to size down one whole size to get the right fit. Very happy with these and have recommended this company to a few friends
@BlueSpirit. since it is a different last than my boot, I would simple give them a call. Tell them what you Braddock size is and I’m sure they can recommend. And I think they may have free return shipping so if you estimate, no loss.
Apologies if I missed this information in the video, but I know that for some, the " Made in China" stigma comes in part from workers not being paid a good wage. How does Grant Stone treat its Chinese workers?
Frankly just like with any business it's pretty difficult to know for sure. Even when it comes to local businesses you can't be certain. Nobody knew much about the Amazon working conditions for a good long time and that was happening in the US. I would say that the argument that the workers aren't paid a good wage in China/India/Indonesia/Pakistan etc. isn't entirely true. There is some truth to it, but it's also the case that the cost of living in many of those areas is much cheaper than in the places where they sell their products like the US. That means that even if those people are paid so that they can have a fair wage the products are still cheaper than if those same products were made in the US particularly if you compare them to high cost of living areas of the US like say San Francisco or New York. This is why even when boots are made in the US they tend to be made in relatively low cost of living areas.
Everything indicates that the factory employees are treated well. Grant's in-laws are connected to the factory and it's located in/near a high-end resort area. I'm going to look for a favorite factory tour video now....
Of course value is subjective. I personally value Truman boots being made here in the US more than I value the $60-$100 difference in price. Now if you’re looking solely at materials used per $ than I think Bordon boots give grant stone a run for their money. They use wickett and craig veg tan leather for the uppers. They have leather insole/midsole and heal counter and they use leather and cork for their filler. Hand made in Columbia for $350.
I think Truman is the best value. I don't have any, but they do have some for less than 400 dollars with all of the great construction and materials you get with Grant Stone. Both good value, but Truman edges them out I think.
I dislike the ethos (or lack of it) of reviewing sponsored products. Project Farm pays for all their stuff and is never sponsored to do a review, ever. And PF's reviews are all an absolute pleasure to watch, above and beyond their strict policy of no sponsorship, no preasents.
Well, they are using Made in USA leather, and I think you're paying a bit below USA prices... More like Indonesia, or some other cheaper, but not as cheap as China countries. Granted I'm Canadian, so sometimes prices are weird, but nowadays, finding a boot that's made in North America without skimping on materials puts it automatically around the 450-500$ range over here. Also, as someone who owns a pair of their boots, I can say QC is impeccable on the pair I have, so they're definitely not getting the usual made in China quality.
Could you do a video looking at some Mountaineering boots? I think a video on some single leather mountaineering boots from Scarpa or La Sportiva would be super interesting form your perspective!
These boots are definatly high quality and the look beautiful too. As much as i appreciate Made in the USA, I am in the UK and this is not such a priority for me and as long as the quality is there. Definatly will want a pair of these for casual wear.
One of my favorite boot makeups of all time. I ended up buyng 2 times the same pair because i didn't understood my size. They are quite high in instep though. I wish they would do C width as well
@BlueSpirit. I didn’t get them jet so i cant say much about it jet but from people i talk to it should work true to size for d and c feet in their standard last. I can’t confirm jet this works for me
I'm sold and just ordered a pair, which will be my first boots from Grant Stone. I'm a fan of Helm Boots, and now have two pairs from Thursday while I too enjoy (best $200 boots on the market), but they're more or less what I considered to be office dress/casual about town boots which are okay for an unintentional offroading, so to speak. But the Grant Stone are a step-up in quality for me and, if I love them, the next pair will be Grant Stone Field Boot Walnut Bison. Much appreciate the reviews...from the inside-out.
Rose I just got a pair of the same boot you're talking about Grant Stone , first all you spoke about the boot is 100% true , I'm very happy with the purchase and like you said in you're channel they are worth more than $400.00 by a mile ahead , I'm DAV and I'm in a Electric wheel chair I can't walk to much but I'm enjoying 100% the boots thanks to explanation of the but !!!!! Thank so much and have a good one !!!!!
I like the Ottawa Grant Stone Boot a little better. It has a split toe moc construction, but is a little slimmer. I got mine during a limited run of cordovan leather. Editing this, because I didn't watch all the way through first.. You covered the Ottawa option well.
I'd have to agree that Grant Stone makes at least the best value boot, and comes really close to making the best boot. As most people do I started out with Thursday Captains, and grew from there to include White's, Beckett Simonon, Allen Edmonds, and Grant Stone. I have three pairs of Grant Stone and they are just beautifully made. The stitch density around the welt is 3x that of my hand made White's boots. They're a great pair of boots, I LOVE 'em.
I have 2 pairs of GS’s. Black brass boot and the diesel in crimson chromexel. Love my boots. Wear my diesels with chinos and my brass boots with jeans. Quality built and they look beautiful.
@BlueSpirit.I would probably go a half size down. I ordered the brass boot in my Brannock size and it was just a tad big. Nothing to complain about. Ordered my diesel half size down and it fits perfect. I always buy D width. Hope that helps.
I bought a pair of these during Grant Stone's recent sale based on this video. Very nice boots. However, the last is a bit strange. I'm a 10D on a Brannock device, with a wider than average forefoot and a high instep. I first tried the Brass boot in a 9.5E, and it was wayyy too long, but also too narrow. The width issue seemed to be because the ball of my foot wasn't lining up with the widest part of the boot, so I exchanged them for a 9E. Length is good, but still pinching my forefoot. Widest part of the boot lines up with the inside of the ball of my foot, but not the outside. I haven't seen this on other boots, making me think the last is somewhat unique. As a reference point, my best fitting boots are Dundalks from Rider Boot Co in 9EE. I'm a 9.5E in Allen Edmonds 201 last. Also have a pair of Greats tennis shoes in 10D, and they're a little snug in the forefoot but not as tight as the Grant Stones in E. I contacted Grant Stone to see if they thought I should try an 8.5EEE, or if they could recommend a different boot that may have a last that would better fit my foot. I included 3D models of my feet from a running shoe fitting at Fleet Feet. Grant Stone didn't suggest any other models, but suggested I try an 8.5EEE. As it turns out, Grant Stone only allows one exchange. After your one exchange, you have to return the boots for a refund, minus restocking fee, then buy another pair. Since I'd bought the boots at sale price, this means I'd have to pay full price plus the restocking fee in order to maybe get the right size, increasing my total outlay by about $100. If the 8.5EEE didn't work, I would have had to return them and pay another restocking fee. I don't think this is a great system, and since the Grant Stone last seems so strange, I think this will be the last (no pun intended) Grant Stone pair I try. Finally, I wrote a review of my experience on Grant Stone's website. I received an email to verify the review, but it was never posted. The fact their products show almost exclusively 5-star reviews makes me think they're hiding all the negative ones. I've seen similar behavior from IQUINIX, a Chinese manufacturer of mechanical keyboards. Like Grant Stone, they pay for sponsored videos such as this one, and produce a product that is at first glance pretty good. However, if you have any issues, they won't stand behind it, and like Grant Stone, they make sure only positive reviews are posted on their website, so you never get to hear about any problems other customers had before you make a purchase and potentially discover them for yourself. Just not a great customer experience overall. I have no issues with buying Chinese made products when the quality is good and the workers are well treated, as seems to be the case here. However, if the company can't stand behind their product and make the purchasing experience pleasant, then it's not worth the trouble. Censoring negative reviews is also a huge red flag in my opinion. The whole experience has made this video seem like more of a paid sponsorship than an honest review. TLDR: Boots are nice, last is weird, Grant Stone isn't very helpful, and you may be in for some headaches if the boots don't fit your feet on the first or second try. Grant Stone advertises free exchanges all over their website but doesn't make it very clear that there's a limit of one exchange. This is problematic because they don't follow standard sizing and offer three widths. Most of this could be rendered moot if Grant Stone allowed critical reviews to be posted on their site, but they don't, and that's just dishonest. Either don't allow reviews, or post all reviews from verified customers, even the negative ones.
Great! I've watched dozens, perhaps hundreds of wrist watch-related content, I'm now ~€5000-6000 poorer; been there, done that.... and now I can start looking at boots! 🙂
I agree. We have no choice in buying some cheap products from china, but if I'm buying a pair of $400 Boots, they're not going to be from the Chinese Republic.
Nice review! Huge fan of what your doing on your channel. GS is making some serious quality boots. I believe the field boot and the brass boot are positioned a little low for what they offer. Both GS boots have a thick leather insole and leather midsole. The whites have a rubber midsole. The GS boots are better constructed than the Redwings. They are made in china and if thats where they lose you, so be it. You cant argue that the quality isnt there on this channel where everything gets cut apart and you can actually see what is there and more importantly, what isn't there. Thanks for the review.
Unfortunately "Made in China" still carries a lot of stigma around it. Yeah, there's a lot of Chinese factories that pump out cheap garbage, but there are also places in China that do make quality products. The difficulty is in determining which Made in China you're getting.
I rock my Brass Boots in my office job with khakis and slacks all the time and people seem to love them. I'm going on almost 1.5 years in them and I'm sold on Grant Stone, picking up a pair of Diesels soon.
I'm gonna miss Moc'tober. I found this channel very recently because of this series. Also, "made in China" being an automatic disqualifying element is starting to become a case-by-case scenario rather than a generality because these boots seem amazingly put together - just Chinese labor is simply far less expensive. A lot crap comes from China, but a lot of good stuff come from China nowadays, too; it's seemingly brand-dependent.
"made in china" is all crap. I don't know what propaganda you've been listening to, but China is our enemy and buying the crap they make is supporting a brutal communist regime
The perfect travelers' boot IMO! A good lasting companion that can take you from the jungle to the desert to a fancy party ! That looks like they'll be my next go to boots ! Good price too !
For a close cost , Frank's Patriot has comparable materials strictly work boot... but definitely durable. The grant stone is an amazing boot and I'm throughly surprised by what's inside.
I wouldn't say comparable materials. Better materials. Worse finishing though, which is important for a casual boot. Frank's and GS are targeting completely different markets really.
@@RandomGuy-qm3mg Who cares about made in the US. I can’t really care less about that. Go to your home and start throwing away everything that’s not made in the US and it’ll be empty quick. Even your underwear isn’t made here. 😂
@@RandomGuy-qm3mg White's GYW aren't REALLY US made though. The uppers are brought in from the Dominican Republic and bottomed in Spokane. For a fully US made pair of White's, you have to go with their stitchdown or rolled welt boots, which are of course more expensive. Makes sense since GYW isn't their specialization, but I wish they were more clear about it. Edit to add: Apparently it depends on the model. Standard Perrys have Dominican uppers, but the Selects are all American.
Yeah I kinda glossed over that part. Wish I wouldn't have. Now I've been through a bunch of trouble and am out of pocket the restocking fee for a return.
Love the quality of Grant Stone Boots/Shoes HOWEVER something is not right with the sizing. I bought 4 different pairs in the past 2 months. 1 Pair of Diesel Saddle Tan, 1 Pair of Diesel Walnut Bison, 1 Pair of Edward Rust Kangaroo and 1 part of Plain Toe Saddle Tan Veg Cavity Wedge Sole. I have ALWAYS worn a 7-1/2D and Never had any issue with one shoe fitting differently than the other. NOT ONCE until these shoes. I followed their suggestions and went DOWN 1/2 a size. The Bison Left boot fit ok (just a tiny bit snug but since they were not broken in at all I knew they would loosen up enough to fit good. The Bison Right boot however was very uncomfortable /tight on the Left side of the heel. It took a few weeks but it eventually broke in enough to where it is now acceptable and I can wear them 8 hours without being uncomfortable but much linger than that and they will start to hurt a bit. I bought the same size in the Diesel Saddle Tan because I figured that If I purchased my normal size of 7-1/2D they would probably be just a bit too big. I Prefer snug versus loose because loose will give me heel blisters. I had the exact same issue so far with the Diesel Saddle Tan boots. The Left Boot was ok but the right boot heel was digging into my heel. AGAIN......My feet are NOT different sizes. I have NEVER had this issue before in over half a century so it is NOT because my feet are different sizes. I have not yet broken in the Saddle Tan Diesel boots because I HATE the leather soles. They are TOO SLICK for my liking. I prefer the Lug Soles like on the Bison Boots. I then decided to go with the Plain toe Saddle Tan Veg Cavity Wedge Sole in a 7-1/2 D which is my NORMAL size shoe. The Plain toe shoe fits much better than either of the Diesel Boots but again, they are not perfect. The right shoe is a very slight bit loose and my heel slips a tiny bit which is annoying but it is not so bad that I can't wear them. So I then decided to try the Edward boot in a 7-1/2 D Rust Kangaroo. This time the Left boot is too tight across the top of the last eyelet but the right boot is ok. My point is.......WHY is there so much INCONSISTENCIES between these 4 pair of shoes? I just want a pair that FITS with no issues. In addition......while the quality is GOOD..... I find that none of these shoes are super comfortable after wearing them for 8 hours or more. I NEVER had shoes that I could say that about. The shoe insoles are not that comfortable and if I were to put in some comfortable insoles I would have to adjust the sizing accordingly and since I haven't yet figured out the Correct size......that is nearly impossible at this point. SO.......WHILE I WANT TO LOVE THESE BOOTS/SHOES.........I just can't COMPLETELY LOVE them. For anyone who thinks this is an issue with my feet.......AGAIN...I will tell you......NEVER BEFORE Have I had an issue with getting shoes to fit BOTH FEET correctly. NEVER. So this IS NOT an issue with MY FEET. Unless or until something changes.....I cannot buy another pair of Grant Stone's as much as I want to. Even at their good price......it's pointless if they don't FIT.
I'm about to purchase my first pair of Grant Stone's. This video cemented my decision to go with it than some others. Also, I know you have a boot list ten miles long, but I'm interested in seeing what you think of Helm and Taft. Love the vids!
I try to avoid aiding the CHICOMs any more than I have to, so I will not being giving these boots a try. But kudos to Grant Stone for making such a high quality boot in China. But even comparing the USA-made Thorogoods to these boots, you can see on things like the stitching, the Thorogoods are better made even if they use "lesser" leathers.
If he’s wrong, and despite that he is sponsored my the boot company….. WHERE is he wrong????? I own some G.S. As well as two pairs of whites (as comparison) and he’s actually SPOT ON. My whites are my favorites, but I have a hard time faulting G.S. As compared to what I spent on them compared to my whites. To all of you keyboard commandos faulting him for taking sponsors, or reviewing products, what would you question??? You’re doing quite well @ Rose Anvil…. Keyboard commandos be “commandoing “ 😂
I kind of think the reason most Chinese made goods are bad is because it's done to cut costs and increase margins for a corporation that's based in america or europe or other rich country and so with the philosophy of increasing margins on labor costs they're increasing margins on materials too by making them worse, whereas Grant Stone is a company based in China making high quality products for a rich market first and getting the benefits of lower costs in China without the philosophy of sacrificing quality.
1) That heel counter looks anemic. It may be leather, but it is barely visible, and that shot goes by so fast, it almost feels like you are trying to hide it. 2) I get that you think these boots are good, and maybe they are, but I've watched a lot of your review videos and this one stood out. It did not feel like a review at all. It felt like an infomercial. Didn't seem like you were even trying to sound objective; just straight up fellatio. That being said, they do look like good boots.
Have owned mine for almost 2 years and I work in a window/door manufacturing company and I’m around glass at times so mine got cuts on the toe but some of the most comfortable boots I’ve owned.
Been waiting for this one!! Love my #8 Brass boots. They are sized a little strangely though, I definitely need to wear extra thick socks with mine. Can't argue with the quality.
@@edyue1 I actually don't have any heritage red wings, but the grant stone site suggests half size down from brannock. I'm a size 12, so got 11.5. It doesn't fit too badly, but there is a lot of space up front. I think I could have probably gone to an 11 and been fine. The grant stone people are actually very responsive to sizing inquiries though, if you're serious about getting a pair then I would suggest reaching out to them.
The only moc toe I have are RW 1907 boots and I love them. But based on your reviews on 1907 and this video, the Brass boots should be above 1907 in the overall moctober table. A little confused now.
Not really. The 1907 uses a thicker and tougher leather for the uppers, is slightly cheaper, made in the US and overall has arguable the same build quality. The grants are a great casual boot and the shank is nice but the RW can be used as an actual work boot.
I have these in the earth suede from CF Stead. I love them; they hold up to anything I've thrown at them (hiking in mud and gravel, trudging through snow, wandering through sandy desert, and a lot of wear in cities) and still almost look new. They are nice enough looking for office wear, as well. I'd be curious to see what Weston thinks of higher end suede like Stead's waxy commander since he normally is pretty dismissive of suede.
Personally I think that being made in China outweighs any value they might have. Many of out American boot / shoe manufacturers are struggling due to the cut rate imports from China and Vietnam, and I just can't put any stock in a boot that's made in china. This is just my personal opinion, I understand if somebody just doesn't care where it's made.
Grant Stone is absolid brand with an exceptionally good lineup of leathers and lasts. Absolutely love their quality and heft and the price is in point as well. My boot collection is majorly from GS.
this isn't a good story. this is a bad story, and just another avenue to devalue "made in the USA" craftsmanship. unsubscribed, man, and never coming back.
Uh, whoever took that measurement on the insole leather didn't take their thumb off the leather and it's clearly not touching. Looks like 4ish mm leather and you can clearly see a good 1 mm of gap between the tool and the leather. Probably some amount of gap below as well. 7:02
Excellent boot. People who say they wouldn't buy Grant Stone because they are made in China are the same people typing that with their iPhones, made in China.
I love my Brass Boots in black chromexcel. This makes me want another color! On the Support American Workers Issue, I'm inclined to do so but it's American management I often find problematic. Have been burned too many times by Detroit autos. It wasn't the workers' fault, assembly was fine, but early component failure. Ford, I'm looking at you. My F150 was such a shock after years of a cheap but trouble-free Mazda pickup. In both cases, management decisions determined how things played out for me. My Ford was fine after I'd replaced the transmission and power steering and alternator and something else, failures starting at 4 years. I kept it 16, and the engine was solid. But in its early years, it stranded me one too many times. Then, as now, everyone was saying, "Detroit fixed its quality issues!" Yeah. Right.
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If you watch his videos he has a solid history of holding sponsors accountable. This man has saved me money with his reviews.
Mocktober done but any plans on doing a Russell Moccasin review? I don't think you have ever covered any of their boots.
Thanks for this video!! It helped me know that Grant stone's Crimson Chromexcel Brass Boot is the right gateway drug for me to try out excellently-made footwear!
@roseanvil I am looking to buy one, do they run narrow at the toebox?
@@ramblr5900 I'm not roseanvil, but he does address your question about 9 minutes into the video. I can tell you that when you see the toe of the last sticking upward a bit that it reflects in the Brass boot having extra vertical wiggle-room for your toes. So the toe box is actually pretty roomy & comfortable. You're more likely to feel some initial tightness towards your instep/ball-of-foot, but the insole & chromexcel will break in to be less-snug. While they feel good right away, they will feel even better after a couple weeks.
It’s nice that you’re very up front about Grant Stone sponsoring the video and I’m not saying that anything in this video is factually incorrect. It’s quite helpful to see inside one of these very hyped boots. I do worry that the tone of your sponsored videos can verge on the flattering, fawning and gushing, especially in contrast to your other videos, but I’m open to being proved wrong! I enjoy the series immensely, even more so this year than last, so keep it up.
Nice, let’s hope this is a brand that never falters and starts to make less quality boots for cost savings.
Or jacks up prices from all this exposure.
Or sells out to a huge corporation and the quality declines.
@@Muscovy7They've already raised their prices last year from $360 to $380. It's only a matter of time before they sell them at $400. I have two pairs. One used and one new. They make great boots
@@Dominicreviews I think a $20 increase is not bad considering the price of other things increasing.
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I have this exact boot and just love everything about it. The cxl smell, the color, the roomy last, the different moctoe stitching, and the rugged yet dressy look. Ive gone on lighter trails as well as to bars and dinner, they fit many situations. Knowing how well built they are makes me love them even more.
Do they actually fit .5 size down from your normal size? Wondering is they mean .5 size down from your sneaker size or dress shoe size. I’m a 10d in Alden but an 11 in sneakers.
@@Sdr___ I think they do! I went true to size according to my brannock but I'm pretty sure I could go down a half size in these (Floyd last). Don't think I could do the same with their Leo last.
@@Sdr___ I just received a pair of these today. I normally wear 10E brannock, and ordered 9.5E per their guidance with some hesitation. These fit **exactly** like they should, with just a touch of extra room in the toe. So it turns out to be correct to order 1/2-size smaller than your brannock size.
I've got them on to break in now, and the only challenging aspect is all the leather is stiff and needs time to mold to my feet.
Made in china 😂
@@thunderhammer1937 and?
I recently put some new rubber lifts on a Grant Stone boots at my shoe repair shop. I'm 64 and a third-generation cobbler who also operates a separate footwear retail store originally started by my father in 1946 after he got back from serving in WW II (i was born years later in 1959 when my dad was almost 46). As such, I've grown up in the industry. I remember robust construction as a child. By the time I took over in 1982 it was hard to find any shoes without compromises. The Grant Stone boot I worked on was a total throwback. Absolutely no compromises could I identify. I sell some high-quality USA-made boots that I am proud to sell, and the Grant Stone's construction (the ones I'm selling are not direct competitors as they're more in the work mode) rises above anything I've seen since I was a youngster - just up taking the shoe business from my father. Grant Stone construction has my total respect.
Made in China
Sadly true. It would be much better if these well made shoes were made here. The Chinese people are great, the government is corrupt and deadly. Not a country we should support in any way if we face cold hard facts.
@@AudioFileZ are you aware of how corrupt and deadly your government is? I liked your first comment but now I can see you're just another brainwashed ignorant with zero self-awareness.
@@trex1448 so?
@@intothedragon China is trash dude. Low quality shizz.
This sort of video should not be sponsored by the boot company that is being reviewed.
Generally, yeah, but any company who does sponsor the video is going to know that Wes is going to cut them in half, and show close ups of the construction in 4k.
No company who makes shit/wants to buy marketing just to increase profits would EVER sponsor one of his videos.
Because, again, it's not just an entertainment vid or an advertisement, he is going to cut that shit in half and you are going to SEE the quality. Any would be sponsors will know this, and the one's who elect to still sponsor anyway are all going to be the ones with nothing to hide.
ignorant statement
It's like all the Thursday ones, every channel fawns over them, meanwhile they have terrible ratings for customer service and build quality. It makes it hard to trust any youtuber
I have bought 4 pair of boots in the last couple of years based on your reviews....you have never steered me wrong!😊
It is a sponsored review though. These are not his own opinions.
keep it up man, there's still 2 months left of bad financial decisions 😂😂
@@HourRomanticistHe gave the same opinions on a non-sponsored video about Grant Stones two years ago. Get a new act.
@@HourRomanticist These are his opinions. It may be a sponsored video, but he accepted to work with them because he believes in the product. Or perhaps he even went to them to propose them to make this video.
I have 4 pairs of Grant Stones, love them immensely. I started buying high quality boots a little more than a year ago and now I can really appreciate a good set of boots. Love my Parkhurst, Trumans and Red Wings as well. I hate cemented throwaway boots that I have brought my whole life, they only last about a year.
I’d love to see more hiking boots or cowboy boots on this channel!
Or hunting boots for the mountains.
You explain the components every time but I never get bored of it. Appreciate it.
Question: Has Rose Anvil ever given a negative review to a company who has sponsored their CZcams channel? The fact that Grant Stone is sponsoring this video substantially reduces the reviewer’s credibility.
I agree. I have noticed this too lol. But given all the info you know about leather boots, can you think of a boot under 400 that has all these features though?
@alwayserik He blew through those features awful fast to nervously wax on and on about the superiority of this product. This whole video smacks of insincerity.
So, where exactly is he wrong?
Weston gave great reviews for RockRooster. Along with an Amazon link which pays a commission to him.
Sponsored means it's an ad. Compare this video to any others that aren't sponsored and there were no criticisms for the grant stones. He just glosses over anything that was a con. I'm sure it's a nice boot, but it's not treated the same as others.
I own three pair of Grant Stones (including my all-time favorites, Edward boots in Maduro shell). All of them are impeccably made with outstanding materials and quality control. I am not sure who else makes footwear of this quality for this price point.
Those Edwards are some of the only boots on my holy grail list. Missed out on getting them on eBay last month. Maybe someday.
I mean the story of the brand tells you everything you need to know. This wasn't some venture capitalist who didn't know the industry deciding to make a brand and get his stuff made at some factory that won a bid. This is a guy who grew up in the industry in and around the family factory in Xiamen his whole life who decided to make a brand out of the factory they already owned that was just white labelling for other brands. A real case of a shoemaker deciding to make a brand instead of a brandmaker deciding to sell shoes.
Parkhurst
Where did you buy your first pair? was it from GS's own website or somewhere else?
@@user-lr2sq5qx2r grant stone’s website.
I just got my belt from you guys. Its so simple yet so much better than any other belt I have ever had. I can also confirm Horween chromexcel smells incredible.
I have the Brass boot in 3 different leathers in 3 mockups. I have the Saddle Tan wedge and then the Honey glazed shell and Earth versions of the log sole. I’ve worn the Earth on multiple Arizona mountain hikes. They are amazing boots.
That honey glazed shell looks incredible...
A few years back, I was deciding on a pair of 1000 Miles or Iron Rangers as my first pair of quality GYW boots. The price tag was steep and after some further research I ended up grabbing a pair of GS Brass boots in black CXL instead. Since then my boot collection has grown a little, but my Brass boots are still my most worn and favourite pair. Quality is up with some of the best and the value is unmatched. The company obviously cares about maintaining a high standard as well as innovating and expanding their product. They cater to diverse widths and also offer a women's range. So versatile, looks great, hard to fault the team at Grant Stone
Great review as usual. The only thing I miss in your reviews is the "how the boots fit" or the "correct sizing" section. Because it's a huge area of concern to all of us who have to order online and dislike sending ordered boots back.
One thing about the GS lasts is that they're very anatomical and forgiving in terms of sizing. Much like Alden I can wear multiple sizes in GS and they all fit better than most boots of any size.
Grant Stone has a well-maintained website with a section specifically detailing information on fitting.
I found the last to be very strange and unlike any other boots I've tried or own. With Grant Stone, you only get one exchange before you have to start paying restocking fees. They only allow positive reviews to be posted to their website, so I find them to be a bit dubious. Boots appear to be of great quality, but I didn't feel like the company was very honest.
You seemed to breeze past synthetic components that you rip into other brands for.
The camera is actively avoiding that synthetic void-fill under the shank.
Can't argue with the quality I just find something offputting about a US company cribbing traditional American designs and making it in China for a profit.
I'd rather pay $100 more to know the person who made it had decent worker protections and pay in the US/Canada or Japan.
thank you for making this video. when i heard that you were doing an alden alternatives series for this moctober i was really hoping you would cover this boot. i’ve been thinking about picking up a pair of these for awhile and you just made my decision a whole lot easier.
Hands down there is no better boot for the money. I own 9 pairs of Grant Stone’s. I wear and love every pair. Being made in China does not change my mind in the least. The company sets the quality standard and they are meticulously made to those standards. It’s a win win in my eyes. I also support quality American made boots. 7 pairs of Nick’s, 4 pairs of White’s, 2 pairs of Truman’s and 1 pair of JK. All beautifully crafted and hand made. Hell, Weston even got me to bite on Muggs out of the UK and I have now bought 3 pairs of those over the last year. To me quality hand made footwear is the single best thing you can do for your feet, body and lifestyle.
I thought you were a bot account but looking at your past posts you just really love boots. How many pairs do you have?
@@briandarlage9815 A bot! LOL, that’s funny. No, definitely not a bot but you are correct on the fact I really love boots. We all got our crutches and mine happens to be the absolute beauty of handmade leather boots. The boots I didn’t mention are my 2 pairs of Red Wings, 2 pairs of Helm’s, 1 pair of Allen Edmonds, 2 pairs of Danner’s and 2 pairs of Thursday. I guess that puts me at 32 pairs.
@BlueSpirit. with Grant Stones I usually go a half size down from my Brannock size of 8.5D. My Field Boots are all 8D except for my reverse Kudu Field boots. They are a 7.5D and fit well because the leather is so soft.
Well, no sooner did I comment on the Allen Edmonds moc-toe video and hope for Grant Stone, did you drop this one on what I consider their signature boot. Bravo, Rose Anvil.! For those of us who have been screaming from the rooftops, Grant Stone is an excellent boot and value. I am glad to have come to them at this point before prices inevitably rise, and the boots I own will be classic examples. I exhort potential buyers to dial in as well as you can with the sizing, because they do run a bit larger. I am a 10.5E Brannock and found a good fit after trial in the 10.5 D and 10E. It takes some getting used to the higher sidewalls, it is quite a different and unique feel, but one grows accustomed to the wiggle room. It will take some walking around to adjust to the weight, but it is doable after a few hours of wear time and only points to the extra weight being a result of the quality materials used to make the boot.
Although folks will inevitably make the Indy bandwagon comparison, I don't because this boot is in a class of its own. If you care about quality, workmanship, construction and materials, no more need be said. I will go you a step further in saying if you are trying to compare this boot to Allen Edmonds, the Alden Indy, a Thursday offering and you are talking about quality workmanship and components you are simply either being biased or irrational.
The MIC argument is personal preference and I don't begrudge anyone their druthers. As a shoe collector I have shoes from around the globe and recommend this line if you are interested in the boots more than politics.
I own this boot in several configurations and leathers and am totally happy with them. It took me about 2 years of research and comparisons to pull the trigger and I am glad I did.
Back to sizing. I sized down a bit to get a sleeker profile on these and it does give them a dressier look. And I agree that if the Floyd last is too tall or roomy, the Ottawa boot may be more one's cup of tea. I own those, and the LWB Grant Stone offers. The Ottawa seems to be a bit of the reverse of your video, it is more of a dress boot, that has inroads as a casual wear that is rugged enough to venture towards a work book feel. The split toe gives them more of a dress boot look.
In short, you can't go wrong with adding Grant Stone to your collection and I for one, am sure most will be happy they did. Their CS and QC are also superlative. They move the product quickly and are super fast on returns. Thanks so much for a very timely review.
Our company was on the forefront with a couple others in introducing LiFePO4 (lithium iron phosphate) batteries into the golf cart market. We worked with several cell and bms manufacturers, which led us to a common distributor of the two final manufacturers that specialized in complete battery assemblies. My biggest learning experience is that Chinese manufacturers will sell you just about anything to fit your budget. You want cheap garbage, they'll sell you it. You want world class quality, they got that too. So the next time you walk into a store in the US and pick up a POS product that's made in China, be upset with the US distributor that's specifically ordering bottom of the barrel quality to meet their 200+% profit margin.
Would be nice to see you review a pair of Trickers
I think the Jim Green boots are the best value for money and I can't wait for their new boot to be released (and reviewed/cut in half by Rose Anvil), because it looks awesome! My wider feet love my African Rangers.
But I must say that I haven't tried a Grant Stone boot yet, and these look great.
Picked up a pair of Jim Green boots and love them to death.
Me three. Rose Anvil bias has only helped me.
Drew’s don’t give you any money or what?😅 I thought they are the best for the money can buy.
This is why your channel has value (and followers). I wouldn’t have considered GS before this because of the China stigma. Seeing what’s inside and how the construction is performed tells the the story of quality. Without this video I’d have never considered GS. Well done!!!!
I bought my Brass Boots 3 years ago after a bad experience with a pair of Alden Indys. So glad I returned the Aldens and bought the Brass Boots.
After that purchase, I now have a pair of the cap toes and Ottawas.
If I would have known about this company when I was 1st getting into boots, I would have bought the Diesels instead of the Wolverine Evans that were my first GW boots 4 years ago.
Hello Rose Anvil
Have you considered cutting up a Carolina gold moc toe? Those are made in Mexico and cost $299.
Looks decent. I really hope you look into that
I will say I bought a pair of the exact boots you reviewed and paid full price. The hook eyelets at the top of both boots were loose and would wiggle back and forth and spin. And both boots have an air squish sound when I walk. I contacted their customer service rep who stated it is normal for the hooks to be loose, but if they fall out to contact them and they would send replacement hooks! I have never personally had a pair of boots that the speed hooks would spin on. Even cheap ones.
I have the Brass Boot in Burgundy Kudu. Every time I put it on, I'm blown away! Super comfortable and the fit is perfect. I'm a 7.7 wide D and the 7D is just right!!
the first 5 minutes sounds like they paid you to sell it
They did. All these reviews are paid. Rumor is that he sends a media kit to every boot company in the industry. If you want to know who doesn’t pay the tax, simply look for the boot brands never reviewed.
He does. His reviewes are nonsense except for the cut in half to make a judgement call on yourself
I love my Grant Stones. I have the Ottawa style and I wear it to work, business casual, all the time. I get tons of compliments on them, but not as many as when I wear my Tafts. These are the second most solid boots I have next to my Nick's. I keep eyeballing a second pair for my collection.
Really good review...as per normal. I have this exact boot from Grant Stone and after a year it is still amazing. Best bang for the buck and easy to break in. Had to size down one whole size to get the right fit. Very happy with these and have recommended this company to a few friends
@BlueSpirit. since it is a different last than my boot, I would simple give them a call. Tell them what you Braddock size is and I’m sure they can recommend. And I think they may have free return shipping so if you estimate, no loss.
I’ve had this pair for a few months and I have loved it so far.
Love my Brass Boots in Natural CXL!
Apologies if I missed this information in the video, but I know that for some, the " Made in China" stigma comes in part from workers not being paid a good wage. How does Grant Stone treat its Chinese workers?
Frankly just like with any business it's pretty difficult to know for sure. Even when it comes to local businesses you can't be certain. Nobody knew much about the Amazon working conditions for a good long time and that was happening in the US. I would say that the argument that the workers aren't paid a good wage in China/India/Indonesia/Pakistan etc. isn't entirely true. There is some truth to it, but it's also the case that the cost of living in many of those areas is much cheaper than in the places where they sell their products like the US. That means that even if those people are paid so that they can have a fair wage the products are still cheaper than if those same products were made in the US particularly if you compare them to high cost of living areas of the US like say San Francisco or New York. This is why even when boots are made in the US they tend to be made in relatively low cost of living areas.
Everything indicates that the factory employees are treated well. Grant's in-laws are connected to the factory and it's located in/near a high-end resort area. I'm going to look for a favorite factory tour video now....
I am guessing some 12 year old made these boots
@@paultaylorbikes You might watch some other videos about Grant Stone's production before making that assumption.
Grant Stone is known for working with a factory that pays fair wages.
I actually felt bad seeing your cut this boot in half. Grant Stone makes a great boot. Excellent video quality!!
I can’t believe you haven’t done Russel Moc’s yet, they are the original American Moc boot!
Of course value is subjective. I personally value Truman boots being made here in the US more than I value the $60-$100 difference in price. Now if you’re looking solely at materials used per $ than I think Bordon boots give grant stone a run for their money. They use wickett and craig veg tan leather for the uppers. They have leather insole/midsole and heal counter and they use leather and cork for their filler. Hand made in Columbia for $350.
I think Truman is the best value. I don't have any, but they do have some for less than 400 dollars with all of the great construction and materials you get with Grant Stone. Both good value, but Truman edges them out I think.
I dislike the ethos (or lack of it) of reviewing sponsored products. Project Farm pays for all their stuff and is never sponsored to do a review, ever. And PF's reviews are all an absolute pleasure to watch, above and beyond their strict policy of no sponsorship, no preasents.
One of many. Not a fair comparison at all.
Nailed it! Your reviews are why I have dozen pairs of Grant Stone shoes! Thank you! Id love for you to review Parkhurst boots next!
Legitimately better than most American boots. Better than Alden and oak Street definitely.
I’m a huge fan of Grant Stone. Started with one pair and now I have 16 pairs. My last pair was the Bisson leather Diesel boot, whatta beauty.
That's a lotta boots.
@@sinisterthoughts2896 That's a lot of money in boots too
How can you afford that many boots?! Im jealous!
Are you part centipede?
Something I respect about Grant Stone. They don't try to hide where they are made. What I don't like, You are paying USA prices for Made in China.
Can you link an American made boot with these grades of materials and finishing for under $400? I'll wait
You're paying for quality. Quality doesn't belong in any country, italy, england or china. So what's with the racism?
@Kystifyable Frank's patriot? Definitely a work boot... but well finished 7-8oz Sidel leather 3mm thick veg insole ect...
Well, they are using Made in USA leather, and I think you're paying a bit below USA prices... More like Indonesia, or some other cheaper, but not as cheap as China countries. Granted I'm Canadian, so sometimes prices are weird, but nowadays, finding a boot that's made in North America without skimping on materials puts it automatically around the 450-500$ range over here.
Also, as someone who owns a pair of their boots, I can say QC is impeccable on the pair I have, so they're definitely not getting the usual made in China quality.
@@Kystifyablethis is very close in price to the Parkhurst Niagara which is $418 and not made with Chinese slave labor
Could you do a video looking at some Mountaineering boots? I think a video on some single leather mountaineering boots from Scarpa or La Sportiva would be super interesting form your perspective!
I have this exact boot from Grant Stone but in kudu leather. Absolutely fantastic.
These boots are definatly high quality and the look beautiful too. As much as i appreciate Made in the USA, I am in the UK and this is not such a priority for me and as long as the quality is there. Definatly will want a pair of these for casual wear.
I’m in the UK, i bought a pair, granted the final bill was aaaagggghhhhhh, but they r cracking boots.
One of my favorite boot makeups of all time. I ended up buyng 2 times the same pair because i didn't understood my size. They are quite high in instep though. I wish they would do C width as well
@BlueSpirit. I didn’t get them jet so i cant say much about it jet but from people i talk to it should work true to size for d and c feet in their standard last. I can’t confirm jet this works for me
I'm sold and just ordered a pair, which will be my first boots from Grant Stone. I'm a fan of Helm Boots, and now have two pairs from Thursday while I too enjoy (best $200 boots on the market), but they're more or less what I considered to be office dress/casual about town boots which are okay for an unintentional offroading, so to speak. But the Grant Stone are a step-up in quality for me and, if I love them, the next pair will be Grant Stone Field Boot Walnut Bison. Much appreciate the reviews...from the inside-out.
So, did you like them?
Rose I just got a pair of the same boot you're talking about Grant Stone , first all you spoke about the boot is 100% true , I'm very happy with the purchase and like you said in you're channel they are worth more than $400.00 by a mile ahead , I'm DAV and I'm in a Electric wheel chair I can't walk to much but I'm enjoying 100% the boots thanks to explanation of the but !!!!! Thank so much and have a good one !!!!!
I like the Ottawa Grant Stone Boot a little better. It has a split toe moc construction, but is a little slimmer. I got mine during a limited run of cordovan leather. Editing this, because I didn't watch all the way through first.. You covered the Ottawa option well.
I'd have to agree that Grant Stone makes at least the best value boot, and comes really close to making the best boot. As most people do I started out with Thursday Captains, and grew from there to include White's, Beckett Simonon, Allen Edmonds, and Grant Stone. I have three pairs of Grant Stone and they are just beautifully made. The stitch density around the welt is 3x that of my hand made White's boots. They're a great pair of boots, I LOVE 'em.
I'm totally fan-girling right now! I've been begging for this review for ages!
I have 2 pairs of GS’s. Black brass boot and the diesel in crimson chromexel. Love my boots. Wear my diesels with chinos and my brass boots with jeans. Quality built and they look beautiful.
@BlueSpirit.I would probably go a half size down. I ordered the brass boot in my Brannock size and it was just a tad big. Nothing to complain about. Ordered my diesel half size down and it fits perfect. I always buy D width. Hope that helps.
I bought a pair of these during Grant Stone's recent sale based on this video. Very nice boots. However, the last is a bit strange. I'm a 10D on a Brannock device, with a wider than average forefoot and a high instep. I first tried the Brass boot in a 9.5E, and it was wayyy too long, but also too narrow. The width issue seemed to be because the ball of my foot wasn't lining up with the widest part of the boot, so I exchanged them for a 9E. Length is good, but still pinching my forefoot. Widest part of the boot lines up with the inside of the ball of my foot, but not the outside. I haven't seen this on other boots, making me think the last is somewhat unique. As a reference point, my best fitting boots are Dundalks from Rider Boot Co in 9EE. I'm a 9.5E in Allen Edmonds 201 last. Also have a pair of Greats tennis shoes in 10D, and they're a little snug in the forefoot but not as tight as the Grant Stones in E.
I contacted Grant Stone to see if they thought I should try an 8.5EEE, or if they could recommend a different boot that may have a last that would better fit my foot. I included 3D models of my feet from a running shoe fitting at Fleet Feet. Grant Stone didn't suggest any other models, but suggested I try an 8.5EEE.
As it turns out, Grant Stone only allows one exchange. After your one exchange, you have to return the boots for a refund, minus restocking fee, then buy another pair. Since I'd bought the boots at sale price, this means I'd have to pay full price plus the restocking fee in order to maybe get the right size, increasing my total outlay by about $100. If the 8.5EEE didn't work, I would have had to return them and pay another restocking fee. I don't think this is a great system, and since the Grant Stone last seems so strange, I think this will be the last (no pun intended) Grant Stone pair I try.
Finally, I wrote a review of my experience on Grant Stone's website. I received an email to verify the review, but it was never posted. The fact their products show almost exclusively 5-star reviews makes me think they're hiding all the negative ones. I've seen similar behavior from IQUINIX, a Chinese manufacturer of mechanical keyboards. Like Grant Stone, they pay for sponsored videos such as this one, and produce a product that is at first glance pretty good. However, if you have any issues, they won't stand behind it, and like Grant Stone, they make sure only positive reviews are posted on their website, so you never get to hear about any problems other customers had before you make a purchase and potentially discover them for yourself.
Just not a great customer experience overall. I have no issues with buying Chinese made products when the quality is good and the workers are well treated, as seems to be the case here. However, if the company can't stand behind their product and make the purchasing experience pleasant, then it's not worth the trouble. Censoring negative reviews is also a huge red flag in my opinion. The whole experience has made this video seem like more of a paid sponsorship than an honest review.
TLDR: Boots are nice, last is weird, Grant Stone isn't very helpful, and you may be in for some headaches if the boots don't fit your feet on the first or second try. Grant Stone advertises free exchanges all over their website but doesn't make it very clear that there's a limit of one exchange. This is problematic because they don't follow standard sizing and offer three widths. Most of this could be rendered moot if Grant Stone allowed critical reviews to be posted on their site, but they don't, and that's just dishonest. Either don't allow reviews, or post all reviews from verified customers, even the negative ones.
Pay me to say otherwise.
Great! I've watched dozens, perhaps hundreds of wrist watch-related content, I'm now ~€5000-6000 poorer; been there, done that.... and now I can start looking at boots! 🙂
I have 4 pairs. Like their quality and variety of leather choices such as shellcordovan, kudu, and kangaroo. Love them all.
Made in China was the deal killer for me in today's market. I have no problem with imports. I prefer to support real allies of the USA.
I agree.
We have no choice in buying some cheap products from china, but if I'm buying a pair of $400 Boots, they're not going to be from the Chinese Republic.
Nice review! Huge fan of what your doing on your channel. GS is making some serious quality boots. I believe the field boot and the brass boot are positioned a little low for what they offer. Both GS boots have a thick leather insole and leather midsole. The whites have a rubber midsole. The GS boots are better constructed than the Redwings. They are made in china and if thats where they lose you, so be it. You cant argue that the quality isnt there on this channel where everything gets cut apart and you can actually see what is there and more importantly, what isn't there. Thanks for the review.
Unfortunately "Made in China" still carries a lot of stigma around it. Yeah, there's a lot of Chinese factories that pump out cheap garbage, but there are also places in China that do make quality products. The difficulty is in determining which Made in China you're getting.
I rock my Brass Boots in my office job with khakis and slacks all the time and people seem to love them. I'm going on almost 1.5 years in them and I'm sold on Grant Stone, picking up a pair of Diesels soon.
@@Kingfisher1215 I see you live a happy and fulfilling life 😘
I'm gonna miss Moc'tober. I found this channel very recently because of this series.
Also, "made in China" being an automatic disqualifying element is starting to become a case-by-case scenario rather than a generality because these boots seem amazingly put together - just Chinese labor is simply far less expensive. A lot crap comes from China, but a lot of good stuff come from China nowadays, too; it's seemingly brand-dependent.
Been wearing V12 Chinese boots and they are excellent.
"made in china" is all crap. I don't know what propaganda you've been listening to, but China is our enemy and buying the crap they make is supporting a brutal communist regime
chinese quality control is more up to corporate policy rather than the workers. Pretty much like any other country if you think about it.
I mean, nearly all Apple products are made in China.
Polestar fan?
Very excited for this! I hope you can review the Beckett Siminon Gallagher as an Indy alternative
Love my Grant Stone Chelsea boots. Currently saving up for the Ottawa boots.
The perfect travelers' boot IMO! A good lasting companion that can take you from the jungle to the desert to a fancy party ! That looks like they'll be my next go to boots ! Good price too !
MIC is a dealbreaker. Too bad, because they look very good.
I'd never heard of Grant Stone's until today. They look good, but I'll stick with my Jim Green, Red Wing & Danner's.
I would love to see you review this same boot in the Jungle Kangaroo leather.
For a close cost , Frank's Patriot has comparable materials strictly work boot... but definitely durable. The grant stone is an amazing boot and I'm throughly surprised by what's inside.
I wouldn't say comparable materials. Better materials. Worse finishing though, which is important for a casual boot. Frank's and GS are targeting completely different markets really.
not as dressy as the Grant Stone but the Whites Perry Select is about 400 with good leather and made in the USA for another option
@@RandomGuy-qm3mg
Who cares about made in the US. I can’t really care less about that. Go to your home and start throwing away everything that’s not made in the US and it’ll be empty quick. Even your underwear isn’t made here. 😂
@@RandomGuy-qm3mg White's GYW aren't REALLY US made though. The uppers are brought in from the Dominican Republic and bottomed in Spokane. For a fully US made pair of White's, you have to go with their stitchdown or rolled welt boots, which are of course more expensive. Makes sense since GYW isn't their specialization, but I wish they were more clear about it.
Edit to add: Apparently it depends on the model. Standard Perrys have Dominican uppers, but the Selects are all American.
@@Will-yp6ny You mean to say that YOU don't care. Obviously lots of other people do though. Why does that bother you?
I closed the video the moment you said "this video sponsored by GS"
Yeah I kinda glossed over that part. Wish I wouldn't have. Now I've been through a bunch of trouble and am out of pocket the restocking fee for a return.
This boot in black is just painfully beautiful
Love the quality of Grant Stone Boots/Shoes HOWEVER something is not right with the sizing. I bought 4 different pairs in the past 2 months. 1 Pair of Diesel Saddle Tan, 1 Pair of Diesel Walnut Bison, 1 Pair of Edward Rust Kangaroo and 1 part of Plain Toe Saddle Tan Veg Cavity Wedge Sole. I have ALWAYS worn a 7-1/2D and Never had any issue with one shoe fitting differently than the other. NOT ONCE until these shoes. I followed their suggestions and went DOWN 1/2 a size. The Bison Left boot fit ok (just a tiny bit snug but since they were not broken in at all I knew they would loosen up enough to fit good. The Bison Right boot however was very uncomfortable /tight on the Left side of the heel. It took a few weeks but it eventually broke in enough to where it is now acceptable and I can wear them 8 hours without being uncomfortable but much linger than that and they will start to hurt a bit. I bought the same size in the Diesel Saddle Tan because I figured that If I purchased my normal size of 7-1/2D they would probably be just a bit too big. I Prefer snug versus loose because loose will give me heel blisters. I had the exact same issue so far with the Diesel Saddle Tan boots. The Left Boot was ok but the right boot heel was digging into my heel. AGAIN......My feet are NOT different sizes. I have NEVER had this issue before in over half a century so it is NOT because my feet are different sizes. I have not yet broken in the Saddle Tan Diesel boots because I HATE the leather soles. They are TOO SLICK for my liking. I prefer the Lug Soles like on the Bison Boots. I then decided to go with the Plain toe Saddle Tan Veg Cavity Wedge Sole in a 7-1/2 D which is my NORMAL size shoe. The Plain toe shoe fits much better than either of the Diesel Boots but again, they are not perfect. The right shoe is a very slight bit loose and my heel slips a tiny bit which is annoying but it is not so bad that I can't wear them. So I then decided to try the Edward boot in a 7-1/2 D Rust Kangaroo. This time the Left boot is too tight across the top of the last eyelet but the right boot is ok. My point is.......WHY is there so much INCONSISTENCIES between these 4 pair of shoes? I just want a pair that FITS with no issues. In addition......while the quality is GOOD..... I find that none of these shoes are super comfortable after wearing them for 8 hours or more. I NEVER had shoes that I could say that about. The shoe insoles are not that comfortable and if I were to put in some comfortable insoles I would have to adjust the sizing accordingly and since I haven't yet figured out the Correct size......that is nearly impossible at this point. SO.......WHILE I WANT TO LOVE THESE BOOTS/SHOES.........I just can't COMPLETELY LOVE them. For anyone who thinks this is an issue with my feet.......AGAIN...I will tell you......NEVER BEFORE Have I had an issue with getting shoes to fit BOTH FEET correctly. NEVER. So this IS NOT an issue with MY FEET. Unless or until something changes.....I cannot buy another pair of Grant Stone's as much as I want to. Even at their good price......it's pointless if they don't FIT.
I'm about to purchase my first pair of Grant Stone's. This video cemented my decision to go with it than some others. Also, I know you have a boot list ten miles long, but I'm interested in seeing what you think of Helm and Taft. Love the vids!
How they holding up?
I try to avoid aiding the CHICOMs any more than I have to, so I will not being giving these boots a try. But kudos to Grant Stone for making such a high quality boot in China. But even comparing the USA-made Thorogoods to these boots, you can see on things like the stitching, the Thorogoods are better made even if they use "lesser" leathers.
If he’s wrong, and despite that he is sponsored my the boot company….. WHERE is he wrong????? I own some G.S. As well as two pairs of whites (as comparison) and he’s actually SPOT ON. My whites are my favorites, but I have a hard time faulting G.S. As compared to what I spent on them compared to my whites. To all of you keyboard commandos faulting him for taking sponsors, or reviewing products, what would you question??? You’re doing quite well @ Rose Anvil…. Keyboard commandos be “commandoing “ 😂
I kind of think the reason most Chinese made goods are bad is because it's done to cut costs and increase margins for a corporation that's based in america or europe or other rich country and so with the philosophy of increasing margins on labor costs they're increasing margins on materials too by making them worse, whereas Grant Stone is a company based in China making high quality products for a rich market first and getting the benefits of lower costs in China without the philosophy of sacrificing quality.
I will not support China or the companies that outsource there, if it's possible.
It's not outsourced, it was founded there. Didn't move overseas to save costs after being here. Learn a bit
@@Tallnerdyguy They outsourced from their inception. They're in China because it's cheap. I'm never going to support that.
1) That heel counter looks anemic. It may be leather, but it is barely visible, and that shot goes by so fast, it almost feels like you are trying to hide it. 2) I get that you think these boots are good, and maybe they are, but I've watched a lot of your review videos and this one stood out. It did not feel like a review at all. It felt like an infomercial. Didn't seem like you were even trying to sound objective; just straight up fellatio. That being said, they do look like good boots.
you're just jealous because you can't afford one
Make up your mind. 😂
They look great.
I would love to see you do a review on Urban Shepherd boots.
Have owned mine for almost 2 years and I work in a window/door manufacturing company and I’m around glass at times so mine got cuts on the toe but some of the most comfortable boots I’ve owned.
Been waiting for this one!! Love my #8 Brass boots. They are sized a little strangely though, I definitely need to wear extra thick socks with mine. Can't argue with the quality.
I wear 9D Red Wing moc toes and round toes in over 50+ pairs, if you wear Red Wing, can you advise me on these?
@@edyue1 I actually don't have any heritage red wings, but the grant stone site suggests half size down from brannock. I'm a size 12, so got 11.5. It doesn't fit too badly, but there is a lot of space up front. I think I could have probably gone to an 11 and been fine. The grant stone people are actually very responsive to sizing inquiries though, if you're serious about getting a pair then I would suggest reaching out to them.
The only moc toe I have are RW 1907 boots and I love them. But based on your reviews on 1907 and this video, the Brass boots should be above 1907 in the overall moctober table. A little confused now.
Not really. The 1907 uses a thicker and tougher leather for the uppers, is slightly cheaper, made in the US and overall has arguable the same build quality. The grants are a great casual boot and the shank is nice but the RW can be used as an actual work boot.
@@Muscovy7Right. RW value is really pretty good, all things considered.
Are you EVER going to do the Trumans?
Even As a non-experts of boots I can see how it's well made. It deserves to be in top 5.
But I am still a fan of Nicks heritage moc toe boot.
I have these in the earth suede from CF Stead. I love them; they hold up to anything I've thrown at them (hiking in mud and gravel, trudging through snow, wandering through sandy desert, and a lot of wear in cities) and still almost look new. They are nice enough looking for office wear, as well.
I'd be curious to see what Weston thinks of higher end suede like Stead's waxy commander since he normally is pretty dismissive of suede.
Personally I think that being made in China outweighs any value they might have.
Many of out American boot / shoe manufacturers are struggling due to the cut rate imports from China and Vietnam, and I just can't put any stock in a boot that's made in china.
This is just my personal opinion, I understand if somebody just doesn't care where it's made.
Grant Stone is absolid brand with an exceptionally good lineup of leathers and lasts. Absolutely love their quality and heft and the price is in point as well. My boot collection is majorly from GS.
Oh lord, it's fine that you were sponsored by them but please don't encourage them to hike the price up...
Made in China? Pass. Pretty much zero excuse to price something that high thats produced in those conditions there.
Except the workers are paid fairly and conditions aren't shit. Other than those, ya
this isn't a good story. this is a bad story, and just another avenue to devalue "made in the USA" craftsmanship. unsubscribed, man, and never coming back.
There IS a whole world beyond the states mon ami😜
Uh, whoever took that measurement on the insole leather didn't take their thumb off the leather and it's clearly not touching. Looks like 4ish mm leather and you can clearly see a good 1 mm of gap between the tool and the leather. Probably some amount of gap below as well. 7:02
Got this boot in black cxl and it’s just gorgeous. I can’t wait to get it in the saddle tan badalassi leather next!!!
Excellent boot. People who say they wouldn't buy Grant Stone because they are made in China are the same people typing that with their iPhones, made in China.
Made in China. --nope nope and triple nope.... would you buy German made shoes in 1940? No. The same deal in 2023.
DURADERO BOOT REVIEW PLEASE!!! Have been seeing advertisements all over and want to see what they're all about.
I just got the Brass boot in wax commander and i love them. Took like 3 days to break in. I love how they step up a casual outfit.
This is a Grant Stone commercial. Again the sponsored goes straight to the top.
You lost me at made in China... BUT I love our work and videos!
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Canada West Boots. You need to review something from their moorby line!!
I love my Brass Boots in black chromexcel. This makes me want another color! On the Support American Workers Issue, I'm inclined to do so but it's American management I often find problematic.
Have been burned too many times by Detroit autos. It wasn't the workers' fault, assembly was fine, but early component failure. Ford, I'm looking at you. My F150 was such a shock after years of a cheap but trouble-free Mazda pickup. In both cases, management decisions determined how things played out for me.
My Ford was fine after I'd replaced the transmission and power steering and alternator and something else, failures starting at 4 years. I kept it 16, and the engine was solid. But in its early years, it stranded me one too many times. Then, as now, everyone was saying, "Detroit fixed its quality issues!"
Yeah. Right.