TRIAC AC Dimmer Circuit - How to dim AC Power for Motors and More
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🔥How a TRIAC and DIAC works and a basic AC dimmer circuit. I explain all the steps. Check the scheamtic below and dim AC voltage for motors, light bulbs and more.
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00:00 Intro
01:50 How TRIAC works
04:45 AC dimmer Circuit
05:57 Analyze Circuit
07:40 Big AC Dimmer Circuit
09:17 Homemade Circuit
10:36 Thank You
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can i use 3 circuits of ac dimmer to control voltage of 3ph induction motor?
Andrei, another excellent video. I'm glad you did this follow-up video from your other motor control video. You did a great job explaining that circuit. It was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time and effort to create this and share.
I watched tons of videos regarding Triacs and could not get the real idea but after watching your video, it went straight into my mind. Thanks a lot. Very good delivery method. You got yourself a new subscriber.
I made some disco lights in the 1980`s with Triac`s. I used a tape recorder to send a voltage to a decade counter and it controlled 10 triac`s using the output speaker connections as a output signal. You could put the tape recorder in record mode to pick up sound.
Incredible video! Super easy to understand, congrats!
I didnt know triac need separate pulse for both directions, thanks this was very informative.
You always do such an amazing job of explaining things. Your diagrams and animations are fantastic.
Clear and concise explanation.
Another great video. Can I suggest that at this point 9:50, you should have put it into a plastic box as a demonstration of safety. Turning the pot and holding the circuit still, isn't safe. Someone may decide to give it a go and then forget that the normally low voltage protoboard that they're using is now at mains voltage. I experienced 240V when I was nine and I went flying across my bedroom.
Fantastically explained, thank you.
Muy interesante. A ver si lo subes en español para para poder enseñarlo a los alumnos. El funcionamiento de un triac está muy bien explicado. Felicidades
excellent video, very easy to understand and follow up
Thank you for the great work you did here in this video
Amazing Video, I can learn so much from u, thanks man :)
Amazing video...
But what is the important of bridge rectifier
thanks, very cool again 👍👍
have a nice week and keep going 😊
thank you so much for this video.
Thanks for clear explanation...
an excellent work and wonderful explain
Thanks bro love your videos!!!
Excellent Video!!
Great explanation!
amazing channel!!
Great video Thanks!
Hi from Türkiye, And thank you so much
Superb quality 👍
Great explanation
Thank you very much for providing Demo of Dimmer working ( firing angle display in lab), using quadrac like combo.
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beautifully explained
Very good explanation,
very useful thanks
Thank you
Super, thank you
Very very good sir
Thanks for sharing
bro u anwserd the question i seeked after for many moon thank u
Amazing ❤
The triac (thyristor) stop conducting if the current is less than the holding current (Ih). This is not obviously the zero crossing Voltage. (For example inductive loads like a motor or transformer.)
There are two conditions actually. Falling below Ih and reversing the mains current will unlatch the gate current.
@@lolsypussy what that means? I am looking for dimmer to regulate flow with 220v ulka water pump, 50hz, 48w. I saw ppl using mainly dimmers that regulate lights,but someone also used this triac one, which I read is used to regulate revving motors such as drills. What's the difference ?
@@martinkulik9466 i actually have this generic triac PCBs that i manufactured for my college class but haven't had the time to test it out. I'm planning to use this to control the flow rate coming out from a submersible pump
@@martinkulik9466 the triac circuit is basically the same. Depending on the application, certain components are added for protection like a snubber, or addition delaying components to further delay the firing of the triac thus lowering further the output power
@@martinkulik9466 the triac circuit is basically the same. Depending on the application, certain components are added for protection like a snubber, or addition delaying components to further delay the firing of the triac thus lowering further the output power
I usually don't like to do 240V circuits on 2.54mm prototyping board or at least I will use single sided protoboard and remove unused copper pads.
Awesome 😎
If the R/C combination is altering the delay before the ON signal, why does the ‘scope at 10:08 make it look like it’s the OFF time that is being adjusted? Is it an effect of the inductive load?
Good one.
Were you not using isolation when probing mains AC?
Nice!!
Thanks! Do you think those devices work for 12VAC too, or is it too low voltage? I need to be able to dim small 10 to 35W halogen lamps. Thank you!
Hello, does this work for 110 AC as well? Thank you for the informative video!
wuld those triac work on phase shifting sensors or inductive pick up coils pulse generators?
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Is this how soft start works on the motors on power tools like table saws work?
Hey bro. The value of 3302 resistors is equal to 33K ohms. This numbering is for 1% resistors. I guess you have written the value of these resistors in the schematic as 3.3K ohms. I love your videos and I always make your projects. I also like the tone of your voice and your beautiful English accent😊
Superb 👍 , BTW could you make a tutorial on controlling ac appliances with arduino without relay ?? I need that for fast switching of ac current ( on / off )
yes that would be cool..👍👍..and/or frequency converter?
Subscribed.
: ) Thanks.
I have a small cheap portable induction cooktop (lots of mosfets inside). It works mostly fine but at low power it does not only dimm anymore, but powers on and off the induction coil as well. Not a problem in itself except when using it in a solar pv system where the inverter will constantly "lose" solar power trying to match the rapidly changing cooktop, making other stable appliances use grid as well even with plenty of sun.
Is dimming it with a triac a bad idea?
Sir, how to make the timing fine?.,i have a dimmer here but it's too coarse .,pls advice me.thank you
7:46 For what reason is the bridge rectifier placed in the circuit? And how do we calculate the components value?
So this also changes the output voltage and waveform. I think the sharper waveforms can affect/damage motors in the long run while its ok for bulbs & heating.
I'm looking for a device that can control & adjust the power supply from the wall socket while maintaining the voltage at 240Vrms.
Perfect WOW
These are excellent for resistance heating devices but for ac motors especially ac induction motors it can be hard on your coils and the bearings. If you have sufficient cooling you really wont need to worry about that and it's not always the case but something that can happen. From what ive read about peoples experience it depends on the manufacturer but it's like 20% of people seemed to either fry their coils or like in my case keep having bearings go out. Could also be how i used it or others rewired the device wrong. Just figured id throw it out the to take into consideration. For what its worth this circuit absolutely does control ac induction motors.
Hi ! Is it possible to achive some sort of PWM with DC and a triac ?
These are also sold as "solid state speed controllers" I believe. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I purchased an SCR dimmer that looks exactly like the one at 5:13 in the video. So, based on the video and oscilloscope this dimmer is a trailing edge SCR correct? Trailing edge dimmers are supposed to work with dimmable LED lamps, so hopefully the one that I bought will work with my pool light LED driver that is rated at 120v AC . Here in Mexico the standard is 127v but it commonly varies up to 135v and I want to use the dimmer to lower the voltage by about 10%. What do you think about this?
1. @7:54 what is the role of the bridge rectifier ?
2. It was worth mentioning the triac must be of snuberless type, otherwise you'd have to design the snubber network...
In the simple circuit, when the load is off (the DIAC threshold isn't reached), the voltage over C1 lags the input voltage. When the input voltage rises above 0V after the zero crossing, the cap still holds a negative charge from the previous cycle. So it starts up from a negative voltage. If the potentiometer is moved in th edirection to turn on the load, suddenly the TRIAC will fire. This will discharge C1, so at the next zero crossing, the voltage over C1 starts at 0 for the next cycle. This means that it reaches the DIAC threshold quicker in the next cycle. The result is a hysteresis effect, where power snaps up abruptly from zero, and you have to dial down the pot again to maintain a lower power level.
The bridge rectifier discharges the capacitor (C3 in this case) when the input voltage is close to the zero crossing, even if the TRIAC doesn't fire, making sure that the cap starts charging from 0V in all cycles, both where the TRIAC conducts and when it doesn't. It gets rid of the "snap" effect and makes operation at low power levels much smoother.
@@HerrNilssonOmJagFarBe Thank you Jonas for the detailed explanation, much appreciated 😀
Thank you very much Jonas for your explanation. It is very helpful to us beginners. Thank you.
why when in the osciloscope there's "more wave" (bigger conduction angle) the power seems to be less since the motor spins lower?
EDIT: it would've been good if you explained the minimum conducting angle due to the RC trigger
Is there a way to attain a 100% duty cycle using this circuit? Thank you!
Thanks for this post,very informative,i was trying to use ATTINY85 with this code instead of Arduino uno for pot control firing angle of triac ,please help me with necessary changes.
Thanks for sharing AC dimmer Voltage Regulator for speed controller, instead of 500k can i use 100k Pot, Please suggest if so any other components are required to change.
what it makes my Dremel tool run not smooth as your motor and also make some noise ?
What varies at output
Current or voltage ??
tenes un diagrama de como agregar un soft start para motor ac monofasico?
What am I doing wrong if the potentiometer is burning up when set to low resistance?
I set this up on a breadboard and worked fine. But now when i soldered it doesen't.
Only difference I know is that I am now using 4 triacs connected together?
Does the capacitor change the same way in AC that you explained. THE traditional charging and discharging happens in DC. Isn't it?
why on your PCB there is only one capacitor and in the circuit there are 2? Thank you for the video.
Hey, have you seen the linus tech tips video where they do peltier cooling again? they mentioned your video as a good explanation of how they work
Just seen it 😱
@@ELECTRONOOBS pretty good praise, hopefully get you some new followers, you deserve it, your content is awesome!
Please show the full circuit with all components & values. Cheers
Can I swap out the potentiometer for a microcontroller controlling it digitally with PWM?
I assume that somehow the potentiometer was getting VCC and GND, can I hook these up to 5V In and GND and then the analog signal pin be replaced with a micro controller's PWM pin?
Can this circuit be used for 120v 300 watt rice cooker ?
again, one of the top content creators on CZcams, you proved it this time too
Why theres burning/flaming inside potensiometer when this circuit used with drill? Tx u sir 🙏
The sparks that cause flaming/burning in the potentiometer are the consequences of the voltage spikes generated by the motor in your drill. You can get rid of those voltage spikes by soldering a small ceramic cap between the poles of the motor.
This tutorial is quite overwhelming. Thank you for reverse engineering that common module. However, what really confuses me is the output of the oscilloscope. Why isn't the current chopped at the beginning of the sine wave?
For a motor, what does this do to torque? Does it stay the same, or decrease with the dimming of the AC "pulse" (or whatever you would call the dimming feature)?
same questions
You are essentially limiting power which affect both torque and speed.
@@flyinglack so its different with dc pwm ?
Does this method allow less then half the power to be transmitted?
Does it really regulate voltage from 0 -220 v ac
Can we make triac using BT 169 SCR as reverse parallel connection with common Gate
You'll need two timing caps, two diacs and two generic 1A diodes
Why does the new Triac get short circuited, for 80 w globe it works for test. but my my vacuum cleaner with all right parts it goes to full speed no control.?
thank you so much. but can you explain my teacher's question: why do we need to use zero crossing when control power of AC load ? thank you.
Because you need to fire the activation pulse of the TRIAC always at the same time. And since AC is oscilalting, in order to syncrhonise the pulse, we detect the zero corss and then we apply the pulse after the same amount of time, every time.
I read this dimmer is not for lights... Only for revving motors. I can't decide with dimmer to use for ulka 220v 50hz 48w ulka pump to regulate flow. This or the one used for lights. They use different mechanisms supposedly
Hi!
Noob here, I was just wondering how much W will go over the potentiometer?
With only 4,7kOhm and potentiometer turned to 0, would not this be several watts?
// Mikael
hello sir when working with high voltage why dont you use a differential probe so not to kill your scope
Also why not making a soft starter with phase angle control just as great scott did in his video. Anyway very nice video
Is there any way to use 20K pot instead of 500K. Please let me know.
can we use ac dimmer with arduino and control it by both manually as well as by digital means using hc-05 or some wifi modules?..... can you help in this please
You can substitute the potensiometer with an LDR and a LED.
I have a video on that. Bluetooth AC TRIAC control and is made with Arduino! You have to read the zero cross of the AC signal with optocouplers
Why didn't you speak about snubber circuit?
hmm is it safe for the device in a long run? i have a fan, and wanna try to apply this but still not sure
No, it is not recommended for any kind of motor using TRIAC. You should use VFD for AC motor variable speed. TRIAC only ideal for resistive load such as tungsten-filament or halogen lamp.
Why schematic of AC induction motor speed control are so rare??
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How to mitigate the annoying buzzing sound tho???