Mass Effect: Andromeda - Touring the Tempest and Meeting the Crew - IGN First
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Bioware: We Just Can't Get Faces Right.
TO BAD THEY ARE NOT GONNA LIVE...BUT AGAIN WHO DOES?
Sweet Baby Jesus. WE FINALLY MET BRODIE! It's like Alistair from Dragon Age stepped into a time warp, got it on with James Vega from ME3 and they had a baby!!
that is.........the best example I've ever seen.....wow
*Drax and vetra are the best squad mates. Good face animation and great voices and interesting in general.*
Garrus Vakarian i hope we can romance Drax
Garrus Vakarian the salarians facial animations don't look bad either.
Garrus Vakarian I'm Commander Shepard, and Garrus is my favorite squadmate on the citadel (and everywhere else for that matter).
There's something about Drack's drawl that is really aggravating. Hopefully, he comes around for me - his model looks incredible.
I think I'll be using Drack more than I thought. I laughed just when he started referring to some kind of kett as "Little Shits"... we're more alike than I thought
Can we romance the Tempest science officer at 0:35 just saying lol
Yes you can
I hope so...
Yeah you can. Her names Cait. she's in the Combat Zone punching Raiders in the face.
Oscar Ray all about dat Asari doctor 👌
Yup, she's only into Sara though(and Gil is only into Scott).
The eyes are so lifeless! It looks like they're staring behind the person they're talking to.
They all fell into the uncanny valley.
stop perturbing :P
+Sonny Ankou I'm not gonna. ;)
That's because Bioware doesn't know how to use the Frostbite engine. It was way worse in Dragon Age Cisquisition, every character had a greasy face.
Good for you.
The faces man, they look so creepy. They literally only move their mouths wtf, is BioWare just hiding their facial animations or what?
They wasted all their money in "exploration" (aka: collect 50 green rocks for 60 hrs) and Multiplayer because...you know, every EA game HAS to have multiplayer.
I know! I don't undersand why they don't gave expressions to the character, maybe is because they are just small dialogues like the ones in Dragon age Inquisition when your character says something after a mission, instead of a fully made cutscene.
BlueShit199 I've heard rumors that said that they'll have a day 1 patch solving these issues. It's far fetched I know... but I hope it comes true, how am I supposed to feel emotionally tied to these characters when they don't skis emotion to me.
Hm, have you watched the trailer? They actually move pretty much every part of their face. It's not Witcher 3 or Last of Us or whatever, but I'm thinking this does look better than in all the previous videos I've seen. It's not "great", but it definitely doesn't completely creep me out anymore.
The upper half of their faces do move a decent amount, but the lower half expresses almost no emotion, that is the creepy part.
Thanks for finally giving faces to Suvi and Gil! ^^
ikr it's like they were hiding them in a closet somewhere haha.
They both should've stayed in the closet...in both ways... jk xD
......Anybody else notice the Kett on the bed at 3:36??? He better be a super secret squad-mate yo.
That would be cool but I think he's dead and they're examining the corpse so they can find out more about them as a species.
That is most likely honestly. i DO think its strange though since his body looks really clean.
That's true cus no matter how he died there would be some visible damage. But I wonder how the got his body back to the ship cus that's not the easiest thing do. For one of your crew it would be worth it but for an enemy not really since most encounters with the kett seem that they have the advantage but it might be from a part that's not been shown yet. Could also be he's a prisoner and is sedated it'd be similar to the dead reaper mission and legion.
could be an autopsy to figure out Kett biology
Wtf is going on with their eyes, lol
Killthreath mini strokes?
Killthreath Too much acid.
Killthreath You lose your soul if you're in a EA or Ubisoft game.
They're licking rocks, apparently.
Eyes look like they're looking past you
so it's human zombies in space?
(those dead faces)
They represent well the current mood of most Bioware fans...boredom.
+The Eye "current mood of most Bioware fans...boredom." Speak for yourself you dense moron, don't talk in behalf of all of us.
Did I triggered your mangina? hum? Fanboy?
+vale machado You're not a fan, you're a fanboy.
You're not a fan neither, you're just a triggered hater.
Suvi: Yeah I licked a rock
Fem Ryder: I'm sure you'll be licking something else real soon.
How am I supposed to emotionally invest in these characters if they can't show emotions themselves? LOL
ThatOneEwokThatDied and most them are ugly AF
+Connor Collins: The aliens look fine, but the humans are all thoroughly ugly.
somehow the animations here look worse than in the original trilogy lol
Cagnazzo they somehow made liam even uglier than before greasy and big nosed which is not necessary
ThatOneEwokThatDied Do you not read.books?
Either my eyes are outta whacked or they have some giant heads compared to the chest/shoulders size (human especially 2:05)
Man now I cannot unsee it...
I noticed that in those character kits that Bioware dropped earlier and thought I was the only one who thought that! Yeah something just looks a bit proportionately off with the human characters (big head, weak looking delts/traps). I mean unless Bio is trying out some muscular dystrophy... lol
zhijn Not really. Liam just has that massive bulk of hair
It's a zoom effect probably. They look fine when it's not zoomed in to their face.
Actually looks properly proportioned to me.
Or i just have a big head.
Yeah.
I think the graphics (especially skin textures) are gorgeous. Look at Liam. Great job with frostbite. Ok I admit the expressions are a bit unnatural but still it looks good. I think their eyes are moving constantly (not fixed on ryder in dialogue) and that looks odd. I really like it so far. The music, the feeling, aliens, exploration etc etc. I like it.
I'm glad they added some nice views from inside the ship!
I had my doubts about this game but the latest videos being released have given me alot of hope
Well is it worth the it in 2022
Nathan Drake! That guys voice is exactly like Nolan North's voice!
It's Tom Taylorson that voices Scott Ryder
BradTheAmerican yeah i know its a diff voice actor but they sound exactly the same
Bobby White I know right when I first heard Ryder talk I thought of course it's Nolan North because he's in everything. Then I saw the video with the voice actors for the Ryder twins and was totally surprised.
Greg Miller said the same thing in his first impressions video. I don't think it was too too bad (or maybe I'm just used to hearing Nolan North everywhere in games :P )
But science officer Cait spoke though there was a huge disconnect for me... Maybe the Irish like accent just draws my attention faster.
Cait was voiced by a Scot.
OHHHHH Vetra...I can't wait to use my Reach on you!
Hopefully she's flexible.
I am happy to see they significantly improved the textures and animations - especially in the faces - since the pre-release footage.
This looks incredible, can't wait to get my hands on it!
Can we romace the science officer?? Please😁
Jamie Megaputra She's into girls.(Edit: Upon further research, I am no longer sure of this. I have come to the conclusion they need to release more information on this game.)
Connor W. Could you please link the place where you found that info? Because I'm not entirely sure she's only into girls
I'm guessing it's a reference to Traynor from mass effect 3, might be wrong tho.
Adam Bergeron it's not stated that she is, but judging by Bioware previous trend with Inquisition, she most likely will only be into girls
Arkham Doge Could you explain because I never got into Inquisition (I'm tired of medieval games lol)
WHAT THE F*CK WITH THIS SCARY LIPS MOVEMENT???
AND WHAT ABOUT THE CRAZY EYES!? THE HORROR! THE HORROR!
Love the detail on Drack and Jaal.
That moment when the Krogan has the best facial animations...
So, I guess the homosexual ship-technician in the cargo hold has become a BioWare trope now.
Did Bioware get these face animation from the Technomancer?
I was wondering if i'd see someone mention that.That game's characters had a similar thing going on where the mouths and head move alot but the eyes were just lifeless
does the scene at 3:54 imply real time weather effects for cutscenes? Kinda like gta V?
I've seen that scene before in the previous cinematic trailers and it had different weather
Wow! The Technomancer level of quality right here! 10/10
Salarian pilot on my HUMAN SHIP. UNACCEPTABLE!
Plikky Dee deport them to the milky way back where they came from. Oh wait
That's why I founded the cerberus.
You all get me. :3
Ashley? Is that you?
@Illusive Man You were a damn hero and visionary sir. Damn that Shepard for going against you!
Only two more weeks now 😆👌🏽
Only 5 more days now!
Yasmin Davies Only a couple of centuries now!
only 6 months 'till 5$
Geert Matthys Man you crazy! Games these days take 2-3 years to drop to 5$... On Steam you have the summersales but this game is Origin exclusive
+Adam Bergeron I can wait 2-3 years for this game. It's not like I'm missing much.
2:15
They do the exact "back and forth sway"-animation, in synchronisation.
Must have exhausted the whole library of animations in that whole conversation.
I can't wait. I need to play it.
drax and vetra voice so nice
Nakmor Drack* But yeah, their voices are great.
For the first time i understand the complaints on the face animations. The mouth movements are fine overall but the darting eyes and avoided eye contact look so out of place. Hopefully thats fixed in the day 1 patch (this is thankfully an older build).
lol Too much expectations for a day 1 patch. They had 5 years to solve the problem. Do you really think a patch is going to solve this mess?
The facial animations look like they're trying to keep track of a fly buzzing around their face
talking with crew is already feels like from mass effect 1 and thats good
She licked...a rock?!
I'm sorry but wat? :V LMAO
Sage Vodka It's a geology test. You can determine texture and whether or not it's salty. It was mentioned a lot in my geology class.
But real geologists in the field would never actually do that. It's supposed to be for controlled lab-like situations(Like a classroom).
This many years in the future, and folks still testing by licking rocks
I just thought it meant she had pica or something.
donald brooks Well we are still doing things that people did hundreds and thousands of years ago.
..hey Gil! nice to see you.. I was aching for you for a month..😅😅...
haha same
Too bad he's kind of average looking....Here's hoping Liam is into dudes.
Yeah, He looks very good... Too bad he can't be in the squad, Maybe if Cora fall accidentally into the reactor core or otherwise, we still can forget her on the lava planet.
And is that me or sometimes Jaal seems to have thinner thighs and sometimes larger.
Thinner in the squad selection (the one with Vetra), even when he talks to Scott at the start and quite impressive when he runs into the cargo bay at the end and in some other videos.
The shoulders of Liam are weird in this video. Anyway Gil looks much better to me. I think he would be much more confortable into my quarter.
+amari17: Liam is not into dudes. So you basically have the alien, and the average looking engineer dude.
Pretty boring options.
I find Gil to be hotter than Liam so far.
Can you customise the Tempest/Nexus like Skyhold though?
I love krogan squadmates. interested to see how drack will hold up next to wrex and grunt.
Alright, I think I know what the issue with the facial animations are.
Even in the original triology all the face animations were really bad too. Shepard only had two good expressions: serious and pissed off. All the other expressions came off as just plain funny. People who romanced Tali in ME2 probably remember the awkward perv smile. The other crew mates also had rather stiff expressions.
Now in these previews a few things strike me. The graphics have gotten much better but the facial animations haven't really changed at all so the rigid and awkward face movements become twice as obvious. Ryder clearly has a more colorful personality than Shepard so the stiff and serious face doesn't really work anymore. They seem to have put a cheerful expression on Sara Ryder but now she seems to always be smiling even when she shouldn't be. The male Ryder...yeah, he looks like he staring off into space. And for this trailer, I don't think they finished animating the faces because only the mouths are moving for most of them so no facial change. It's just a blank expression. This might just mean they aren't finished animating. All models start off with blank expressions. PB is the big offender here. She clearly has a child-like bubbly personality but she has no expression here (though she does have it in the other trailers).
So, yeah, I feel the reason all the faces look so strange is because the graphics improved but the facial animations are the same.
So that's when he does that smile.I never got deep into the romancing feature of mass effect,but i've always wanted to know where that popular picture of him came from in the game.
If you want the details, the pervy smile picture was from the Miranda romance when they were talking about her body (really...freakin...creepy). But the for the Tali one, once they talk about hooking up and how she will meet him in his cabain she turns back to the computers and the camera cuts to Shepard with this really weird smile on his face.
Lmaoo-Oh,i've actually seen that one but it was with a user created shepard.Based on that picture and what you've mentioned, it looks alot worse as default shepard which cracks me up. The fact that you said the camera shows him doing it after tali turns around made me laugh even harder. XD
You're right, the graphics and textures are really good, so they are making them look more human, but the robotic expressions are twice visible.
The uncanny valley becomes deeper and bigger if you make the cliffs around it higher.
it's like if there was a fake looking robot doing human things, you wouldn't notice. But if you made the robot look like a human completely, then you will notice the robotic animations.
Other games have raised the bar way too much. Check out Witcher 3. The expressions in that game are unbelievable. Bioware has not improved that much.
And cdprojecktred is probably gonna set the bar higher with cyberpunk 2077,the setting they're going for with that game plus giving us the ability to create our own characters has me excited for that game alone. I cant wait until it's ready enough to where they will start showing us gameplay footage.
jesus those faces....
hey just noticed this, science officer is the person voicing over the golden worlds video
3:50 The ship has the same Eezo engine as the Normandy, but left the galaxy during the time where the Normandy was stopping the Collectors and not in dry dock. Interesting.
I feel like the facial animations for mass effect have always been bad but like since the faces look so much more real now they are more noticeable. Still gonna buy the game it looks great!
I wonder is the father customizable because my two Ryders will definitely be black. Wish more games gave us black hero's with black voice actors.
Sylvester Folks oath brother
Vetra's voice is so divine...thank you Bioware!
I'm so excited to play!
GIL!!!! He's so cute!
I keep seeing people whine about the facial animation in every Andromeda promo video. Even though I get why they're making the points, there is a counterargument that I don't see enough people trying to make. Specifically, I see people claiming an inability to connect with the characters because of one aspect of the animation or another, but consider this:
How did people connect with characters like Garrus, Tali, Wrex, or Legion (my favorite character)?
The ability of a digital asset to "show" emotion relies relatively little on facial expression. Behavior, voice, and diction do far more to carry the foundation of any connection a player has to the character. Honestly, I found it easier to connect with the characters in Mass Effect games than in most animated entertainment I've seen throughout my life perhaps - and maybe this has something to do with me being an Aspie - because the characters' expressions of body language or facial expression aren't obnoxiously loud or overstated relative to what it is they are trying to express. While there are things on which I certainly agree the developers need to focus to improve the experience, I'm not too hung up on whether or not I can see the infinitesimal welling of mucus on a character's tear ducts as they tell me about how much their lives were shaped by [insert canned tragedy here].
They just all looks lifeless. One did that amazing facial animations, Another EA title is BF1 (regardless of what you think of the game, you cant deny the animation in the single player is amazing.) all the charecters just stand there awkwardly when you talk to them, while just their mouths move and eye go crazy. it feel wrong here.
hey i got a gaming pc but just a dumb question! these footages of 60fps mass effect gameplays that theyre showing is it from pc gameplay or on consoles? coz most of these companies are big on supporting consoles rather than pc's. just curious though
That science officer is a keeper, lol.
What about Cora?
You've seen plenty of her. Time for others.
mrArchduke Eh. I guess that's true.
Nomad and Tempest look like toys...
well they're not military hardware
If you listen close you can hear Jaal's voice, it's soooooo deep, I already love it
space the final frontier, these are the voyages of the Andromeda initiative its 600 year mission, to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations to boldly go where no man has gone before.
this is commander john shepard logging out and wishing you luck on your journey i should go
0:22 THEN I SAW HER FACE
Иван Иванов AND I'M A BELIEVER
I feel like this is a Kiddy version of the game series that I fell in love with? I'm sorry, I can't see myself playing this game.
Good, less idiots like you playing the game :D
K
"Jaal, who we'll learn about soon" Please give us more jaal im begging u pls
how much of the sp campain can we play in the ea acces?
I don't get all the ppl defending the facial animations, even a blind man can see they're horrible
Same here. i mean, i like most of what i've seen about the game so far, but facial animations here really goddamn DESPERATELY needs fixing...
Drones. A couple years ago I thought people were harsh when talking about biodrones, but I see they all viciously defend the games from legit criticism and concerns as usual. "just make your own game" "dont buy it then" "troll" "she just looks like a natural woman, pervert."
Paradox That's Biodrone for you. The worst. "Muh alpha. Muh beta version, they will fix it in the retail! Muh day one patch! THE PATRIARCHY!
Or we just don't care and see it for the non issue that it is. I am just glad to be playing Mass Effect again.
we're bioware fans, we are just so use to the god awful facial animations these last years we don't even notice them anymore @___@
BIOWARE PLEASE FIX FACIAL ANIMATIONS AND LIPSYNC!!!
JUST MAKE IT LESS STRONG AND MORE EXPRESSIVE! ADD SOME SMILING TO PEEBEE'S HAPPY VOICE LOL
Right away...oh wait! The game is done! lolz
Maybe in the first patch. Game is done but seems a little raw tbh.
They had 5 years to solve this shit. Do you really think a day 1 patch is going to solve anything?
The Hope in me is strong, but i do have some doubts.
My hopes lies with the upcoming DLCs. Mass Effect DLC are always better than the game itself.
I dont know if any one heard this, but I heard Jaal's voice in the trailer when Destin talks about it him in the end of the video. You almost cant hear it but it seems grave.
Does movie night feature Blasto?
Some say animations are a minor thing
but its kinda hard to care about characters that show no emotions
"Jaal, who we'll learn more about soon..."
WHAT
DID
YOU
JUST
SAY?!?!?!?!?! *PSYCHOTIC BREATHING*
SIGN ME UP FOR SOME ANGARANS
Good luck with that. As for myself, gonna play without my glasses.
Suit yourself.
Simone Miller same
pumped. getting my early copy today! anyone else in Toronto getting it early?!
At least they fixed the majority of the lip syncing problems, even if the movements seem a little robotic this is much much better looking than previously
Can we romance Drax as fem Ryder? Please i want the Krogan
Zoom if so, I pray for your Fem Ryder.
Zoom you would be ripped in half
Humans are too squishy and you can't get a good grip.
lohaneser Unlike garrus who has reach and flexibility...
I is Madz it would worth it :)
With the money and the tech these companies have for games, this game should feel allot further ahead than its predecessor. Games that have came out years ago have better emotional facial animations when speaking to them. This feels bland, and doesn't look like it will have the same feeling as its other games. Horizon Zero Dawn's facial capture is insane, and has so much emotion in it.
Mass Effect Andromeda is a corporate product, just like fast food, no heart...no passion...no soul.
The Eye Quite the opposite
Well, I have a feeling Mass Effect Andromeda is a MUCH larger game than Horizon. Every game has to make sacrifices somewhere. HZD was weak in its interaction with the community. At least felt that way to me. I never felt truly connected with the world or people. Everyone just seemed part of the scenery. Great action, but felt it lacked in the former regard. As for MEA, I've mentioned already, I don't find the facial animations lacking technically, they just don't look natural.
Thomas well the whole point in good facial animations is to look natural... if it doesn't look natural it isn't emotionally attractable. But I understand your point, sacrifice e one thing, for another
Thomas I just think it's going to be a fallout 4 type of release. Been working on the game for years and years on tech that was "once" good and new, now old.
"Fans of the narrative aspect of Mass Effect"
That's what I'm here for! :D
Is it just me or have they gone back to the static camera angles in Mass effect 1 as far as conversations are concerned?
Calling it now, IGN is giving it a 10/10, user metacritic score will be 3/10
Wrong...20/10. Too much effect.
I don't think it's entitled to complain about the facial animations. These games are all about storytelling and emotion during conversation. I find it hard to connect to any characters when they have lifeless eyes and unmoving faces except for an autonomous mouth.
Man, their frozen faces must be a side effect of cryosleep.
"He's no Joker..." Damn I forgot about him for a second there then you had to bring him up :((
their lips looks swelling/ trying to kiss when talking
Garus, liara, tali, kaiden, mordin :(
Tali...
Yeahhhh I'm pretty sure all of them sans Liara are longggg dead.
Unless you chose space magic ending
Wrex and Grunt could be alive too
And EDI.
So we're back with standing eye to eye in conversation. What a mass effect way...
That core near the end looks exactly the same as the one from the SR2 normandy
Could it and the tempest have some sort of relation in design (in terms of lore)
Let me guess, Suvi is gonna be a lesbian...
III R E D A C T E D III leaks confirm that she is
Dammit, could have at least made her a bisexual. I havent read up on the companions, so i just hope there is an interesting female romance option for the male character.
III R E D A C T E D III I agree, but so far the only confirmed romance options are Cora and Peebee, and some potentials being the turian and Dr. lexi
Hot Irish Redhead. YAY!
entropus1991 Scottish*
lol Irish
the VA is Scottish
She's only for you if you're a girl. HAHAHAH!
I was trying to figure out why Suvi sounded so familiar. She is voiced by Katy Townsend who voiced Cait in fallout 4
Is it just me, or does every conversation in this game have only two responses available? I don't think I have seen one with more, and I've seen all the material available.
Bioware's strengths never lied with facial animation (or animation in general) but rather in story/environment and music. If ya'll want amazing hyper realistic facial animation, stick to Naughty dog games and leave us Bioware fans in peace!
Ammm what? Is a 2017 game dude, you can't justify by saying that Bioware is not good with animations, they should be.
Well, case in point here...they're not. A leopard can't change its spots.
They didn't do a 'drastic change' merely improve upon Mass Effect 3. I have to say though, their environments are stunning!
comparing apples and oranges here, they can just hire new animators. Its EA and bioware we are talking here
Well, if all of the dev' thinks like that, we never moved from 2008. Like someone said earlier. It's 2017 now. Plenty of other great games have good facial animations. We don't need ultra realistic animations but damn, it's like all of the "upper" side of the head don't move at all. Hope the rest of the game is good.
Even Stevie Wonder could see how bad these facial animation are.
i just don't understand. dragon age inquisition facial animations were so much better.
King Blitz It's Bioware....
i'm not sure if this is a final build of the game but lord i've never seen so many sets of dead, soulless eyes
The fountain and lake are references to the Citadel.
What do you guys think of No Man's Sky new update.
Bukhosi Hadebe i was pretty impressed to be honest
Bukhosi Hadebe Why do people make this ridiculous comparison? Even as a joke it makes no sense.
Bukhosi Hadebe pretty damn good. It's still not what they promised, but I'm glad they're sticking to their game instead of leaving it for dead.
Joseph Farrell hes not comparing it look at his comment
Joseph Farrell his comment didn't make any comparisons to this game. Learn to read, cretin.
toxic comments incoming
Viking Ikr. It's all "those facial animations are awful," and "preorder cancelled." I think it looks dope.
as always, just ignore it, people will complain about everything
toxic comments about toxic comments incoming
Kane Exactly what Immagonko was talking about lol
Cokovenecek I see them, but they don't bother me in the slightest. I mean, I played PS1 games. Those facial animations definitely weren't very good. Also, if I know I'm going to buy a game, why wouldn't I pre-order it?
do you think that ket iwh the sari is dead or just unconscious?
Do I hear a new version of the galaxy map theme ( new worlds)
the characters look so lifeless. In witcher 3 even 5 second characters had more emotion in their tiny interactions. :/ is it wrong to expect more from masseffect after so long? I'm really skeptical about this one.
Shepard > Ryder
Hard to know when the game hasn't even come out yet...
Ryder > Shepard
Look at me I can do it too weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Le_BreadBandito Not really, we've seen plenty of gameplay at this point to tell that the dialog in this game will be watered down extremely from the trilogy.
MaiZeAwaKened No... no we really haven't.
Just need likable and interesting charcater like Joker, EDI, Garrus, mordin etc.. miss Mordin song =>
Why aren't Ryders eyes pointing in the same direction?
The faces look fine to me. It's the eyes on some of the characters that I can't get over.
I hate to jump on the bandwagon but my god do the facial animations look like shit, none of them show emotion, they all look dead inside.
Why are these facial animations bad? Come on bioware. Everything looks so fake.
its a video game.
MaiZeAwaKened I didn't realize video games were animated, I thought that shit was virtual reality
beacause is a rpg, just like witcher 3
TMerkury Yeah I'm mean it no big deal but there are last gen games that have better animations than this so there's really no excuse with today's technology.
Marco Carrillo Witcher 3's facial animations are lighyears ahead
Wow! It looks great!
Dude... is the Science Officer some kind of parallel universe version of Cait from Fallout 4..?