The Rise Of Premium Economy & Why Some Airlines Have Abandoned First Class

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
  • These days, the interior of a commercial aircraft operated by a full-service network carrier like United Airlines, Delta Air Lines, or American Airlines looks very different from what it did thirty years ago. The economy cabin might look relatively the same, although technological upgrades like modern seatback televisions and in-seat power outlets may make the passenger experience somewhat more enjoyable. Across the board, however, the lowest-end cabin configuration is not that different.
    Towards the front of the aircraft, however, is where things really get interesting and where a stark contrast can be seen between the present and the past.
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Komentáře • 48

  • @zaphod4245
    @zaphod4245 Před 13 dny +50

    Modern Premium Economy is what Business class used to be like 30 years ago, but at a far lower price (adjusting for inflation). So it's no wonder that if people were willing to pay thousands for it then, people are going to be wanting to pay a few hundred £/$/€ more than an economy fare for it now.
    In many respects business class has become the new First class, with lie flat seats, private suites and luxury catering, and so PE has replaced the Business class offering of the 90s (bigger seat, more recline, better food).

  • @delta_cosmic
    @delta_cosmic Před 13 dny +32

    its basically just a name change for the most part.
    First class -> Business class
    Business class -> Premium Economy class

    • @damcoentertainment3956
      @damcoentertainment3956 Před 12 dny +2

      Economy Class -> Cattle Class XD

    • @smoketinytom
      @smoketinytom Před 12 dny

      @@damcoentertainment3956Scum Class… That’s what we are.

    • @d.b.cooper1
      @d.b.cooper1 Před 10 dny +1

      Economy class -> Basic Economy
      Basic Economy -> Super Saver
      Super Saver -> ??? Virtual flying??

  • @Love2Cruise
    @Love2Cruise Před 13 dny +24

    First class gets dropped because quite a few corporate travel policies do not allow bookings in first class. However, bookings in business class are generally allowed for long haul flights. Airlines realized this and changed their products to adapt to the corporate travel market.

    • @nntflow7058
      @nntflow7058 Před 4 dny

      It won't be long till corporate started Premium Economy Class only booking.

  • @pcmacintyre
    @pcmacintyre Před 13 dny +6

    As a very tall person, premium economy is a must on any flight longer than 4-5 hours. I have flown EVA PE and on the 777s the hard product is really showing their age. The food also isn't any better then economy. In 2022 the airline let you preorder a business class meal out of Taiwan for a small fee. Too bad they didn't continue the program.

  • @tw25rw
    @tw25rw Před 13 dny +6

    I've flown premium economy a few times. For a larger, taller person, it's like economy is for a smaller person.
    There was a trend for business seats to be sloping and 2 together. I would bring them back as a long haul premium economy.

    • @damcoentertainment3956
      @damcoentertainment3956 Před 12 dny

      You mean Angle Flat seats?

    • @tw25rw
      @tw25rw Před 12 dny

      @damcoentertainment3956 yes. I was disappointed as they disappeared from my usual routes to be replaced with modern seats at a much higher price.

  • @ahhyesrs1
    @ahhyesrs1 Před 13 dny +6

    I like the 3 configuration but would like to see more Premium Economy seats and less basic economy seats

    • @tahsin_0348
      @tahsin_0348 Před 13 dny +1

      Excuse my poverty sir, but in this economy?! Who do u think are gonna buy those seats? Where would us povvo* people find the money to get themselves these Premium economy seats?
      Economy it is.
      *povvo= a more cute way of saying "poverty ridden individuals"

    • @user-gi7vi9gm4t
      @user-gi7vi9gm4t Před 13 dny

      @@tahsin_0348 if we both pile our cash together we can maybe afford a premium economy seat , we just need to sit side by side or smh

    • @BennnWJK
      @BennnWJK Před 11 dny

      @@tahsin_0348I stopped flying economy a few years ago and only fly premium economy now or business i can score a good deal. What i’ve noticed is that premium economy is usually sold out as well. So yes, the market for premium economy is booming.

  • @stradivarioushardhiantz5179

    Premium Economy is originally Regional First Class
    Airlines: "if Regional First Class seat works, why we should serve First Class Suite with empty"

  • @Rasscasse
    @Rasscasse Před 13 dny +2

    Interesting vid SF 👌
    Nice to hear Matthew in full voice too

  • @k9killer221
    @k9killer221 Před 13 dny +2

    I flew FC on Qantas 20 years ago. No privacy at all. Bigger seat, better food and all the booze you wanted. That was it. It was lower than BC today. I saw the flight attendant on a 7 hour flight about 2 times, he didn't give a sh!t.

  • @DooWopKing2011
    @DooWopKing2011 Před 11 dny

    Helpful !

  • @eamonahern7495
    @eamonahern7495 Před 13 dny +2

    I think it depends on the demand for the product in the market the airline is in. The likes of Emirates and British Airways connect the world whereas an airline like Aer Lingus wouldn't have the capacity to offer 4 classes to a completely worldwide customer base.

  • @andrewbleackley1832
    @andrewbleackley1832 Před 13 dny +2

    It's interesting that on short haul companies like Air Canada have a business class (737, A320, etc) that is midway between long haul business and PE. Kind of feel short changed on those flights lol

    • @briankenney1433
      @briankenney1433 Před 11 dny

      What do you mean by midway? Their Business class is the same premium economy seat in the WB except the 737 and 220 are slightly skinnier due to the fuselage width

    • @andrewbleackley1832
      @andrewbleackley1832 Před 11 dny

      @briankenney1433 A 777, 787, 330 have pods and lie flats. The PE on those recline and are 2/4/2.
      737 are the same seats as wide body PE in 2/2 with a leg rest that PE does not have to allow for 30 degree pitch but not flat. The Airbus Business is equivalent to Westjet Plus seats but better service and frankly outdated imo.

  • @d.b.cooper1
    @d.b.cooper1 Před 10 dny +1

    I’m yet to be convinced by premium economy. Honestly very little difference to justify the higher price. Just better interior with a little bit more space which you could get if got pay a bit more for a better seat anyway. I’d much rather save the money to go for a business class seat when I want it the most. I do think the gulf carriers like Qatar have changed the game re standards for business class. Love the Q suite

  • @sheppeardprano
    @sheppeardprano Před 6 dny

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  • @gunvaldsandhaland7757
    @gunvaldsandhaland7757 Před 12 dny

    I Like The Product Premium Economy.Great Video And Info

  • @thefreshmaker001
    @thefreshmaker001 Před 3 dny

    As a 6'7" man, I appreciate the option of traveling in premium economy to have ample space.

  • @bankerdave888
    @bankerdave888 Před 13 dny +3

    Premium Economy was invented by EVA Airways of Taiwan!

  • @zd1mv
    @zd1mv Před 13 dny +1

    Premium Economy is the new Business Class and Business Class has become First Class! I wonder if any "business" flyers still go to the seats that are marketed towards them?

  • @Sacto1654
    @Sacto1654 Před 7 dny

    This is why I wonder why didn't Qantas just modify a few of their 787-9's to be Business and Premium Economy class seating only so they could just about fly between London and Sydney non-stop?

  • @sachinsomasundaram7093
    @sachinsomasundaram7093 Před 13 dny +1

    I never traveled on any premium classes yet in real life. I only ever traveled in Economy.

  • @paulyiustravelogue
    @paulyiustravelogue Před 9 dny

    Most LCC tickets don’t cost any cheaper than full service airlines tickets after all the fees, so why don’t they offer a sort of premium economy product but all fees and services are inclusive?

  • @bazoo513
    @bazoo513 Před 10 dny

    Present day premium economy is very similar to business class in the days when I flew a lot intercontinentally on other people's dime, some 35 years ago.

  • @alicelund147
    @alicelund147 Před 13 dny +1

    But is this new type of Business Class smaller (Take up smaller space in the cabin) than what first class used to be? Maybe it is just a change in name? Have the total number of seats in the same plane model increased?

    • @damcoentertainment3956
      @damcoentertainment3956 Před 12 dny

      The thing is, most airlines remove first class in their widebodies, then they add these new business class suites and premium economy recliners and finally remove legroom from economy class. That's how it works.

  • @sheppeardprano
    @sheppeardprano Před 6 dny

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  • @jantjarks7946
    @jantjarks7946 Před 13 dny +7

    So, business class became premium economy and first class became "premium business" class, while business class became... first class.
    🤔👀😉

  • @CubicSpline7713
    @CubicSpline7713 Před 13 dny +5

    Its a real pleasure to arrive at the comment section of a Simple Flying video without thousands of conspiracy nuts droning on and on about Boeing.
    So nice 😀

  • @rudivandoornegat2371
    @rudivandoornegat2371 Před 8 dny

    There's no IATA standard for what airlines can advertise as first, premium economy, business and economy class.
    In the past (Panam era) first class was comparable to present premium economy.

  • @user-uk6im1or3w
    @user-uk6im1or3w Před 9 dny

    I'm in the fortunate position of being able to afford business class for the times we fly long haul. Looked at PE but can't put up with a reclined seat in front of me. I think Air France tried a shell style seat in PE but now have reclineable seats. Obviously, recline is not as bad as in economy but still too intrusive. The other benefits of business class over PE such as departing and arrival lounges and chauffeur travel to the airport make for a more enjoyable experience in the modern era of plane travel. Just my opinion.

  • @MrProfessionaldj2003
    @MrProfessionaldj2003 Před 12 dny +1

    I wish they'd stop with all this nickeling and Diming. Although it's more like. $50 here, $80 there, etc. Getting ridiculous. Can't afford to even pick my own seat these days.

  • @Vromiaris778
    @Vromiaris778 Před 13 dny +1

    Premium economy is long haul is worth the upgrade - especially if you are an older traveller. When I travel with my wife (I always fly economy) we like the A330 because of the seating configuration (2-4-2) - we are both willing to pay extra for more leg roon and shoulder room - it makes a huge difference after an 8+ hour flight!

  • @Idonotwanthandle
    @Idonotwanthandle Před 11 dny

    Premium economy is a terrible name, they should change it to smaller and simpler.
    BTW, as a kid I thought that business class is the cheapest one, since business would care about money more then anything.

  • @Periwinkle101
    @Periwinkle101 Před 13 dny +2

    ℕ𝕚𝕔𝕖 𝕧𝕚𝕕

  • @ght33
    @ght33 Před 13 dny +1

    As I look at those fancy seats, I cannot see how they would manage someone with a disability. If they are not inclusive, they are not my choice of airline. Airlines have been given a free pass for to many years and its time they step up.