Why the Premier League could be played in the USA
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A Premier League football match has never taken place outside of the United Kingdom. But that could be about to change.
A court case in the US may have opened the doors to domestic football games being played outside their home territory.
Adam Crafton explains, illustrated by Marco Bevilacqua.
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âYou could charge whateverâ is a terrifying statement
And that's why it will happen, particularly if Spain and Italy do it before the EPL, thereby making them the richest leagues in the world and not the EPL and then all of a sudden there's an exodus of talent from England. I know it's fashionable for fans to hate the idea, and fans will fall over themselves to express their anger as a way of proving their fandom, yet the world changes and money talks, so it will probably happen at some point.
That's just how Americans are greedy set of capitalists. It's a shame the world we live in with fifa now being so greedy and corrupt
100% The game is beyond gone and now following American sports where money is the sole focus
I legit came to the comments as soon as I heard that statement and here it is, someone just as concerned as me...man, that was crazy fr
It's a freighting statement
what an awful idea. italian super cup in saudi arabia is embarassing enough
RIGHT!
@@mattsmith4589 why is it embarrassing?
Its the italian cup â@@basitmohammad3805
They already did the el Classico there
@@fault.and thatâs just as embarrassing
Tifo why would you show me this war crime of an idea in the morning.
Morning ruined. Now I am going to be stuck with the horrific vision of Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump cheering on West Ham.
Tifo baby, don't you be hitting me with those negative waves so early in the morning...
@@memofromessexamerica lives rent free in your head huh
as an american myself iâm not fully against the idea because of the way the nfl hosts a couple of games in europe. I donât think it should be a regular thing to hold games in the states, but hosting 5-10 games a year will help grow the sport in an area where itâs not as popular, similar to what american football is doing. I just want more people here to appreciate the sport and actually get a chance to experience the top flight premier league without having to leave the country.
@@quinnfossing967 No European team should play a league game outside their nation. Full Stop.
Just give them the community shield and tell them it's the CL final, they won't know.
Weâre not that stupid
This
đđđ chuck in the papa Johns cup as well
I most countries Community Shield equivalent is called "supercup". I think that "supercup" could sell in USA well. :D
We know the difference, and we'd show up anyway.
"It's not clear why FIFA has elected to rethink the matter now"
take a wild guess
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The same group that gave Saudi Arabia to host the World Cup in 10 years
Dat green ting
Addicted to cash
Money fueled by need to promote the WC in USA đ
German Fans would have their pitchforks and tennis balls out if this idea was brought up
As a Floridian, I've always loved the bundesliga for the 50+1. Just brilliant. I wish all sporting leagues across the globe had the 50+1. But capitalism yanno đ€·
@@Antonio-hb8rd The Bundesliga is literally in the best state its been in recent history; Bayern's streak ended by an underdog invincibles team, Stuttgart competing for 2nd place, 10 point margin between midtable and relegation, 3 german teams in all european competition semi-finals.
@@rfk1337but how long will that last bayerns financial power is massive they will rise to the top again
Hopefully leverkusen wonât lose any players and keep the league interesting
@@Lettuceman354 Yeah can't see any of them willingly leaving when they'd be strong contenders for UCL next season, they've definitely established themselves as consistent top 3 contenders as long as Xabi Alonso sticks around. Unfortunately it might not be the same for teams like Stuttgart, more than likely their star players like Guirassy and Undav will get snapped up.
The idea of leaving perfectly functioning crowds for 'DEFENCE!! *clap clap clap* ' will forever astonish me
i see your point but finals could be played in america since it needs a neutral field.
@@jiimmyboi12 A neutral field that is easy to get to for the actual local fans*
Those are the basketball fans that do that.đ
@@jiimmyboi12 There is no final in the premier league, or any major european domestic league. We're not american.
Objection: there are only two claps. đ
Here's me thinking the E in UEFA stands for European. How silly of me to think that.
Yeah, we all know it stands Euro, their graphic designer just didn't know how to make the ⏠fit in the logo.
@@JbaJoBaNdwhy would you say that?
That's what I thought. I guess the E means something else.
moneE
The E stands for Everywhere now
This is why 50+1 is important. Imagine trying this in the Bundesliga. There would be riots.
They could also call the video: âWhy the premier league and others need the 50+1 rule and fan protests.â
The English don't protest at anything. Look at the state of their country where greed has infected their politics badly and they still didn't protest.
@@CKW10001 ...English fans protested the super league, Chelsea blocked the team bus from entering and they pulled out
@@AM2K2 we will see their reaction to this soon. The fact that football in England is a glorified soap opera with a bit of football and allowing wealthy owners to dictate their clubs future is nothing but disgusting. This will happen and English fans won't stop it. Chelsea had a guy as their owner who was a Putin ally, of which money came from state owned Gazprom.
â@@CKW10001And yet it's the most stable democracy in history and has managed to withstand all sorts of crises that have toppled other governments...
@@kjn3350 it's not a true democracy. In other countries these scandals would have brought down the government for the people to vote on again and only right.
The plastification of football is nearly complete
This is only the beginning. Soon every stadium across the world will ring with the cries of âDEFENSE *clap* *clap* *clap* â
@@Flash4MLthatâs a basketball thing only
@@Flash4MLi love how angry europeans get when they realize Americans can pay so much more than them to enjoy sports.
â@@yessir7147 things being more expensive for you isn't the flex you think it is.
@@BBoySnakeDogG being able to afford more expensive things because I earn more, is a flex.
I guess decades and even centuries-long worth of football culture doesn't mean anything anymore to these people. What a shame.
At the risk of sounding xenophobic (I'm not) , I just don't want the Americanisation of football.
Oh please, that's the least of your problems.
Iâm an American AC Milan fan. The club was recently purchased by an American investment firm.
First thing the new owner did? Fired Paolo Maldini, a club/football legend who had just won Sporting Director of the Year after he signed pretty much all of our top players who led the team to our first league title in over a decade đ
American businessmen are a special kind of tumor in an already cancerous field.
My friend, as an Anerican *I* don't like Americanized football.
Playoffs I can live with.
Fixed-league franchises and ever-growing leagues, no.
That's already begun I'm afraid
@TinyCryptoBlog That's literally been happening with the EPL. The EPL keeps ruining football, and you guys keep supporting it, so you love this.
I truly hope this never happens. This will destroy football forever. Greed destroys everything
@@Antonio-hb8rd You think it's only one game. How narrow minded are you. You don't see the bigger picture. I am guessing you're an American. No offence but this is a cultural thing that Americans will never understand. It's not part of your culture, that's if you're an American.
@@Antonio-hb8rd I suspect some people are being confused by the video title, which implies the whole season being played in the US.
â@@devononairdoesn't matter it shouldn't happen
Football needs to evolve bro. It cant stay stagnant forever.
â@@devononairHa, that's how it starts.
As much as I would love if the Premier League would come to the US (meaning I can finally watch some QUALITY FOOTBALL matches) without travelling, I think itâs very unfair for the local fans. Here in the US people are fans to these clubs more due to âtrendsâ than the deep connection England citizens have to their city teams (their great grandparent played there, the local restaurant used to sponsor them, etc). You canât beat sentimental value over money. Not fair for the English fans and the fans all over the world, because then you can ask, âWhy the US has the luxury to watch premier league games while Africa/South America/poor middle east countries canât?
Needless to say, itâs also a terrible idea for the MLS which has been constantly growing. I am fine with the US summer tours
@@MrPulimen To be fair, the NFL Games in Germany have boosted the popularity here, even for the local american football league
I think there could be a middle ground, where clubs play specific cup matches abroad where the game is a knockout. But yeah playing actual league games abroad does feel bad to me, beyond local fans being cut out - the 'home advantage' would disappear unless both matches were played abroad.
â@@nilssteinhauer9879That is heartening, but I doubt the same dynamic would benefit domestic soccer clubs here in the U.S. if the Premier League held big-ticket regular season games. We're trying to build grassroots support for our local clubs within our communities. Big event games draw crowds for sure, but not long-term sustained support for the game, which already exists but not at the levels of UEFA's biggest clubs.
Iâm an English fan and not totally against having Premier League games abroad. If you look at teams like Tottenham and West Ham, very few actual local people go to the games in the stadium, it usually people from white affluence counties outside London travelling into London, or South Korean Son Groupies. Personally I donât have sympathy for these people losing a home game of football.
My issue is the USA seemed to be the country demanding this the most, when the USA doesnât pay enough TV money to be demanding this. They play 2.7 billion over 8 years. That is less than what Asia and Africa pays for the Premier League, so for them to demand games being played in the USA, they need to paying triple the money they currently pay for their demand to be valid.
Money ... saved you 6 minutes of your life.
Speaking as an American, if prem games start getting played in America I will stop watching the division
Bye
I can garuntee you would still watch lmao
But some games are already played in the US.
Same as some NFL games occurring in London.
you're gonna stop watching the prem because of atmosphere? Wild đ
I bet Premier teams wonât baulk at fixture congestion & fatigue if this makes them even more money
The baulking ones are the players and managers who are suffering from the fixtures. While the owners are the ones profiting.
Players, manager and fans have to make a stand against owners
Can't the players just say f*ck you we are not playing we are tired
Especially now that they've got FA cup replays removed and screwed over lower league clubs.
â@@shabasm7it would need to be a collective action probably involving the PFA.
If that happens, i will stop watching the Premier League
Same here, I already have one foot out the door as it is.
because of atmosphere? Crazy
This qould be the final nail in the coffin for whatever last piece of "dignity" the plastic league has left.
Playing one or two matches a season abroad is not going to destroy the league
â@@Agtsmirnoffthe league has already been destroyed, this is just the final nail.
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117please explain how the league is destroyed
@@Basket-holes if you can't see it you're part of the problem. Its an over commercialised shell controlled by foreign billionaires and authoritarian governments exporting an overpriced commodity to the global middle classes whilst the original local fans are seen as expendable and slowly pushed out. The worst part is that for marketing purposes they exploit the slowly dying working class fan culture as part of the appeal whilst simultaneously killing it.
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 I understand where youâre coming from and I respect that but this is happening with everything not just sports..money will always talk letâs not kid ourselves itâs been like this since money was introduced to society now itâs just clear as day as opposed to years ago, letâs be realistic they will sell out the sport and itâs actually in the process look at city but unless you and me can come up with millions to buy share or what you might call keep it in the community, their is nothing we can do about it, now it comes down to will you still watch the game cause thatâs your only option, selling out of the sport will and is happening rn..for me I just watch cause what else will I do protest by not watching lol nobody will care you protest is literally useless might as well just watch cause nothing will ever change the wealthy control everything
The biggest problem with the US is the time zone.. Its 6-9hrs behind most of Europe imagine watching United vs Liverpool at 3am on a Monday morning instead of 6pm on Sunday evening...this will really inconvenience a lot of supporters
Ehh the games could be played at noon eastern time and it would be about 7 pm your time. That way both the US and UK would be awake to watch.
@@Valpo2004 and what about Asian fans? We already watch UCL at midnight. I can't watch games at 3 am. Games in Europe are a mid point especially in respect to time zones
fr lol. most of the times I have to wake up early only to watch united lose đ
There are many disturbing things about this. One of the most is Relevent Sports pursuing this through the US Courts. How and why they seem to think US law is applicable to the English Premier League is beyond me.
This is crazy and it's the worst idea. What about fans?
silly. theres plenty of fans in america
Plenty of fans in usa baby. Bigger pockets too
Premier league hasn't cared about real fans for a while now. People in USA will be willing to pay however much to watch prem matches in their own country so easy extra money for the league
â@@kunaguero6725 Not as good as local fans
â@@kunaguero6725silent ones
Leave the EPL in England, thank you. We love it there.
Wales can have a little bit, as a treat
@@ILikedGooglePlus rigggght, just a little to make them have something to give them thrills
Get the most revenue in the world and the premier league still wants to move games its absolutely shocking
It can be shocking how bottomless one's greed can be. There is a case in my country where one single woman stole more than 20 billion dollars across many years.
Greed is like seawater. The more you drink, the more thirsty you'll get.
MLS is absolutely fine and is growing in popularity. They have their own league. "You can charge whatever" shows exactly what the priorities of such an idea are, it's not about the growth of football.
It's ridiculous to play the Premier League outside of England and Wales, whoever made this wild decision is absurd. What's next? The Chanpions League will played in the Philippines? The craziness is endless.
Naah. Philippines don't have the bribe money to pay. Saudis etc on the other hand...I mean they already BOUGHT the World Cup.
As an Arsenal fan in the US for a decade, Iâm completely opposed to this.
I would cry
You make no sense.
I simply can't see this happening, the fan backlash would be similar if not even more fierce than to the Super League.
No, the Super League was much bigger than American games. I mean, American and Australian leagues already are doing infrequent foreign games.
Why the overreaction?
Love the game, hate the sport, absolutely rotten if this goes ahead
Why?
Anyone else just sick of the greed in football now. "You could charge whatever" they just want to bleed us dry, they would take every last penny you have
VAR and financial doping have pushed me to the edge.. this would push me over it.
Can't wait till Neville trying to justify why it's a great thing for PL matches to go to the US.
The fact that it could, doesn't mean that it should.
Yes letâs just send top European matches to the USA why not?
Might as well get the whole league set up there whilst weâre at it
Sounds great
Welcome back to the big one on Sky Sports tonight, from Soldier Field, it's the Liverbird Reds vs the Citizen Blues!
Premier League: We are against the creation of Super League with their elitism commercialization
Also Premier League: Hey, let's create our own elite league and play in USA or Saudi for the moneyyyyyyy
Premier League: We have conveniently forgotten that we are the breakaway league solely created for obscene profit.
I am not from England but I will still go mad
Premier League match should and always should be done in home territory
I can't see it happening in England - the protests over the super league would be tame compared to this...that resulted in the Chelsea team bus being blocked from entering the stadium and Chelsea quickly pulled out of the super league
where have you guys been? I've missed youđ need videos to get ready in the morning
Just keep diluting the game until there's nothing left
What does that even mean?
It's been very noticeable this season how poor the atmospheres have been at EPL games. Its because genuine punters/fans are getting priced out, too many plastic fans! It's absolutely pish this is just another Slap in the face to proper fans!
Oh yes, that makes perfect sense regarding scheduling and home advantage!
First of all it would be pointless to have matches without the big 6 teams in the US, who funnily enough, may also have Champions / Europa /Conference league matches during the week. Players would get destroyed by having to fly to the US and back and play another match withing a couple of days.
Also, which team would volunteer to lose their home advantage to play in the US?
This is why it is inevitable that đ will one day overtake âœïž. The NFL had no issue when setting up their international series.
â@@BiltzBoiBecause it is already an Americanised sport. American sports fans are used to the closed nature of the league. European fans find the same system atrocious.
NFL will never overtake football, at least in popularity terms.
The community shield is the most viable match to export to the US. Itâs a competitive game, not a friendly like all over games during pre season, so there are actual stakes to play for. Itâs also neutrally hosted, so fans in UK wonât feel cheated out of a home game. Finally, Spain & Italy are already hosting their equivalent competition abroad, England can take ideas from them such as reformatting to 2 semi finals and a final between the previous seasons Top 4 or FA Cup finalists and Top 2. This would ultimately appease the global fan market and also generate increased revenue for the English football.
No we will keep it as it's thanks for the suggestion but no thanks. I'm in favour of making the semi final of the FA Cup to a different neutral to save Wembley for the final like we used to but that would be to a different English stadium like back in the day Hillsborough Stadium and Villa Park are the most memorable ones.
Community Shield is the most viable for sure, but it's also the most pointless from a financial perspective. It's an FA competition for a start, not Premier League. All the revenue and gate receipts are distributed by the FA to charities and community projects, and so there wouldn't be a direct financial benefit to the Premier League or even to English football.
I am personally fine with pimping out the top teams for one or two games to benefit community projects in this country.
An alternative could be some kind of end of season All Stars match, like they have in US sports.
@@theskankingpigeon965 Not all only a fraction of it hence they lost the title of it being known as the Charity Shield.
It is why people are turning away from the Premier League in Europe. I don't watch the EPL anymore, I am a UEFA A license coach and only watch LOI and sometimes other leagues that wouldn't have much press coverage here in western Europe.
You like Bundesliga?
@@michaelclarke8367 I do, but we don't get enough access to it.
Iâm an America and would love to see a Premier Lesgue game close to home, but at the same time I could see why the British fans would not be okay with that, I donât want to take away their club games.
(not) surprisingly there is no mention of the Bundesliga in this piece. It's it because of the 50+1 rule that ensures the clubs are owned by the fans?
The sad thing is this would have happened years ago if football was popular in America and it eventually will be. There's far too much money involved for this not to happen, its unfortunate but we have to get used to it.
Just because the NFL sends Jags vs Bills to London once a year and they do great business doesn't mean the US fans will care if EPL sends Brighton vs Forest to Chicago or something similar.
On the flip side, taking something like one of the league Merseyside derby games out of England would likely draw well but would be insanity and domestic suicide for the local fanbase.
League games don't need to played offshore. I can almost be ok with a UCL final or something like that, as there is already precedence for a club competition cup final to be played offshore, it's a one-off game with plenty of hype leading in, and should feature at least one if not two big clubs with global appeal. That makes way more sense to me than some random domestic league matches.
The Dollar really is the devil đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł selling the soul of football.
This is being pushed you lousy European globalists.
American investors don't care about fans. I was in Lisbon for Sporting's celebration of their league win. It was 10.30pm on a Sunday night,when they were confirmed as champions,by 11.30 there were thousands of fans heading into the city centre. There were men, women, children, whole families,there was a 104 year old woman up front of the barriers!! The team arrived about 2am ,there was a party,light show, fireworks,that went on until 4am on a Sunday night.
This is never happening in America, this is family, community, tradition, the corner stones of football. Fans need to fight side by side to defend it from the sharks who want to take it away from us.
American investors? Like who lol? The one dude from the NFL?
@@wifi961 check how many premier League and EFL clubs are owned or part owned by American investors.
@jack1906 Yeah, I noticed. Still, there are others owned by Saudi groups like Manchester city.
Yeah, sporting celebrations never happen in the US. Moronic statement.
â@@wifi961they are an exception. Americans own shitloads of clubs in England.
European football in Azerbaijan was crazy. Absolutely no justification for playing in New York. M
Great video.
I've always hoped that PL/EFL games will never move across the Atlantic but y'know, it's probably on the horizon.
The summer series is one thing. As a die hard Chelsea fan living in the us, I donât want to see no prem games in the states. I rather fly to London
That makes no sense.
As an America trying to charge me a game to a sport I occasionally watch like it was the Super Bowl is not a good idea
What I don't understand is how u would decide which teams play each other in the extra gameweek???
It would be nice to see the MLS develop, so I'm a bit hesitant.
They saw the potential of MLS and had to change the rule to head them off.
We need people who actually care about real football and fans in charge
The first couple of matches as an expedition in August fair enough. Pissing about trying to cross the Atlantic mid-season absolutely not.
Yâall say that itâs terrible if this were to happen⊠and you would be right, even though I love the prem it shouldnât go to the US. It happened to the nfl and I hate it, we are losing are identity for greed and money not to spread the game. Also it defeats the purpose of the mls and takes fans away from what we are trying to build. What yall think?
I don't think it's the same thing. The NFL was always a competition that franchises bought in on. Teams can just relocate to a new city. There's no deep history like with soccer clubs. I think a better equivalent would be if college sports started doing this. There's a lot more attachments to college teams, the history is there, the pride is there. I'm not saying NFL fans don't support their teams, but it's a different type of connection than with European soccer clubs.
Correct me if I'm wrong, please. I'm not American, so my knowledge of this is limited.
@@pazma1 thatâs right and wrong at the same time, your right about how teams could get transferred or relocated to different cities, but thatâs only some teams and those are the ones in poverty and a bad location. Like the raiders. That had everything to do with profit, but there is a lot of rich history within the nfl with a lot of teams and those teams will never move like the packers or Chicago bears. Like if you live in Green Bay where the packers are located, if you are not a packers fan you will be socially outcasted, not kidding. Thatâs the cities whole personality. But you are right in the college thing, canât imagine my team playing in Europe or somethingđ
@@royemmer3703 They already do it with some college games - I'm not super plugged into the details but when I went to Georgia Tech I remember our team playing games in Ireland every other year or so. I think since they're a lot of people of Irish decent here they wanted some sort of event to tie the 'homeland' to the diaspora or something idk. Not that GT has many Irish ties but usually our opponent would be a school from the Northeast that would. Heh its usually a season opener too lol. Not supporting nor opposing the Prem coming here, I'm just saying in all facets of American sports it is done even the more "community focused" college level.
@@royemmer3703 â Football clubs in England and Wales were built, supported and played by working class people in their local area. Many of these teams have existed since the mid to late 1800's and have intergenerational support, they've been there for the good times and the bad times. A modern example is Wrexham, the fans have supported the team since 1864 and when the team was about to go bust or couldn't pay the wages the fans took over club and raised money for it to save them and if they didn't have money, they provided volunteer support especially when they were playing in the national league.
They were doing almost anything to save to their local club. And it just so happens Rob and Ryan found a club they wanted to buy and support and Wrexham happen to fit the bill. Now Wrexham is going through a juggernaut type of renaissance with ambitions to get in to the Premier League and I believe they will get there and they have fans all around the world especially the USA, but it was the local fans that kept that club going.
And if Wrexham isn't the team you care for, look at Luton Town as an example.
At this point, itâs no longer football. Itâs just entertainment
"You could charge whatever " is the most American thing ever
It's the most FIFA thing ever
Everyone cried to high heavens when VAR was being talked about
This will happen, thereâs too much money to be made đ°
The day the premier league plays a competitive match in the USA is the day it dies.
The game can go do one if that happens
Not happening, the US already gets their own pre-season league featuring half the clubs.
Or maybe America should improve their domestic league
Scrap the league cup and introduce a mini cup tournament (2 weeks) midway through season. Every pl club participates, games every day. All played in the US.
Inter Miami vs LAFC in Spain 2025! -- Messi, Alba, Busquet, Suarez VS Lloris, Giroud, Bouanga, Griezman, Vela.
To bring up something else, let's say hypothetically every team has to play 1 fixture in the US due to some league contract.
Sure, that Man U Vs Liverpool game will be massive, but I'm intrigued how many people will show up to Brentford Vs Fulham, or some other bottom half match. Are the clubs really going to want that long flight for give or take the same number of fans in the stadium? Can only speculate but it's interesting to consider imo, because the top 6-8 teams can't play there every week.
But home and away fans influence the result. So league games won't happen in the States - unless the stadium and fans can be transported wholesale.
I'm not from England and I think it's a terrible idea, imagine saying North London is red if Arsenal beat Spurs in New York or something
Honestly maybe doing early round league cup games in the us might be a good idea if they can schedule it right most fans donât go to those games any way and it could create some crazy revenue
This would only happen if 2 or 3 EPL teams had Stadium Construction delay/issues. You would then take 4 teams to the US and each team would play 3 games in 2 or 3 week period.
Iâm a Birmingham city fan and if we ever have a competitive match outside of England where the owner doesnât pay for my travel I will quit football.
Fascinating.
Why could we see league games in the US? = MONEY. End of video.
Isn't the point of having home and away games so every team get a fair chance on winning games in a ground they are familiar with, and for the local fans to express them self (tifo or singing) and the culture of that area. Plus If a team like man utd play against west ham for example in a fixture supposed to be a home game for west ham will be unfair for them because of how big utd internationally are
I don't like how football is growing in the US, not because of the game but because of the greedy rich businessmen.
That looks suspiciously like the silhouette of Nathan Fielder toward the end....
There are already PL (among others) exhibition games here in The States. Our MLS games are pretty well attended (even before Messi came). You/We can watch SeriA, Bundesliga, League 1, & PL on any one streaming service. I believe one or two games would be enough (which is what I believe theyâre implying here). There comes a point where they can over saturated the market & exhaust players.
If the game has to go international. This has to happen
Unless every season ticket holder gets flights and accommodation paid: no.
I think it's a good idea if it brings more money to the Premier League...and is capped at a relatively small number of games per team (etc). This will extend the dominance of our league if executed well. I'd also require clubs to divert a % of the US profits to improving their domestic stadiums and subsidising ticket prices.
"You could charge whatever" thats exactly whats wrong with American Sports ...
No American is paying endless money to watch a soccer match I can guarantee you that. And we don't pay anymore than half of y'all do to see your teams play live. The Super Bowl is the only exception
How will a premier league match go to America? Like, doesn't teams play home & Away fixture?
These American owners donât understand the Premier League has a balanced schedule
It's a lot more profitable to have tourist packages to the UK.
Good thing the Premier League already is 100% plastic. Can't destroy what's already broken.
5:16 I donât think Ryan Reynold would risk pissing off the fans to do that.
Overseas fans of the PL already get a better deal than domestic ones as there is no 3pm blackout there and all games can be available on one subscription. That is not the case in England.
Admittedly this does come with the caveat of timezone shenanigans
Okay I know Europe is generally more traditional so that alone would cause distain but as pointed out the United States does have it's own league. How can they grow if next week Liverpool visits town? They'll see the MLS as secondary and never fully treated right
These people donât care about tradition of even growing MLS (despite the fact some of them own teams in it)
MLS is a sleeping GIANT, and they know it.
You can charge more if it's a game not games when it became games they won't pay much more than local fans.
The only way this happens if when top 6 teams play a smaller team such as sheffield united away. so take city vs sheiffield, which should have been at sheffield home stadium but instead is taking to New York or something, City would be COMPLETLY happy with that as they lose practicaly nothing. But if they think for even a second that any of the top 3 team Arseanl Man City and Liverpool would ever agree to lose a home match against any of themselves to be played in USA or frankly any other place other than their own HOME STADIUM then, usa people are crazy, Those home matches are literally season defining matches No way they can agree to take it away.
"You could charge whatever" so it's not about increasing access for overseas fans then, is it?
It's ridiculous for both parties, really. For English clubs, fans (specifically Home Support) can dramatically affect the result. Apart from Manchester United, whose fans live in London, most teams' fans live fairly locally. Those same fans are also incredibly aware of rising ticket prices atm, and that doesn't factor in any kind of travel or refreshments that may be required. Looking at you, ÂŁ8 Pints at the London Stadium. Fans are not going to want to travel to America to watch their team play, especially when they will have work the day before or after the game. As such, the teams will have to rely on US fanbase, which is fine if you are one of the 'Top 6'. Not so much if you are Luton or Ipswich Town.
On the subject of the teams themselves. As a fan of West Ham, I couldn't care less if Brighton play Brentford, for example. In the same way that I don't really care about any of the regular games in the French League, or the Spanish, or Italian, etc. How can they be so sure that Americans will care about English games and generate that revenue that they think they can achieve? It will need to be big games between big teams. A few years ago, that could have been Manchester United vs Chelsea. Nowadays, that could be Newcastle vs Aston Villa. The beauty of English football is that it is fairly unpredictable and you can't decide which games will be big games months in advance in order to arrange them to be played in a different country.
Defeats the whole point of the home fixture and away fixture! Bit of a silly idea tbh
I don't like it One bit.
Though I do see a compromise.
The league cup needs to start being used as a guinea pig. Most domestic fans don't care too much for it, so changes won't drive as much fury.
Scottish teams want access to the PL market. The PL wants games abroad. We could allow Scottish Leagues into our league cup, have no replays so it's all knockout and have the later stages or the final played abroad (biggest bidder not simply the US).
Wouldn't have to add matches to the calendar if sone right.
This would suit almost everyone involved. And the competition can be ised for all the other experiments they want to have - even if I wish they'd just leave it all alone.
Just like the NFL playing abroad, I think it is logistically a horrible idea especially in a sport run by people that already ask WAY too much of its players. And this is coming from an American!
Football league fixtures being described as 'regular season' feels disgusting
As to differentiate them from pre-season
As I am American I can speak to how NFL games being played in the UK has absolutely destroyed the league, the sport, and my personal trust in the inherent goodness of man. No, I donât think Iâm overreacting
How so?
I thought NFL fans didnât mind that much. Since we were always made fun of for our sport being almost exclusive to the US, I thought weâd be cool with showcasing it so that we could grow the game outside the US.
That's an idiotic statement. It's had no effect at all other than being able to watch football in the early morning (which is nice). Can't wait for a team in London!
Bro, the Kansas City Chiefs played in Frankfurt last season and won the Super Bowl! đ
@@BiltzBoi Frankfurt but yes they won and it proves there is no effect.
I'd say only play a few games over in the US early in the season like they normally do.
Same with how the NFL has a few games in London every year.
as an american and a huge premier league fan i hope all PL season games take place at UK forever. i know it wonât happen, but i just wish something can be left untainted by the allure of profit
May I introduce you to the 2. Bundesliga.
Tickets are dirt cheap, rarely more than 40âŹ, stadiums are usually 80% full.
There's tons of very historic clubs with amazing story lines and history (St. Pauli, Alemannia Aachen, 1860 MĂŒnchen, 1. FCN)
And the atmosphere is mental. Their club could be 12th place, losing 2:0 in the 75th minute and there will still be chants, Ultras jumping and going absolutely mad.
Of course Der Club is the best team, but you're spoiled for choice in second tier German Football.
agreed. I live in the US but It's best if it stays in the UK. Americans will ruin the atmosphere.
You are the problem. EPL supporters in the U.S. are the reason why they're doing this. Support MLS, YOUR DOMESTIC LEAGUE, not some foreign league across the ocean.