The Naughty Nuns & Monks Of This Scandalous 13th-Century Monastery | Time Team | Chronicle
Vložit
- čas přidán 22. 08. 2023
- Time Team is invited to the Military Intelligence base at Chicksands to explore the site of a thirteenth-century unisex monastery. The site belonged to the Gilbertines, a British monastic order known for having nuns and monks living together. The team aims to uncover more about the monastery, searching for clues about the nuns' Cloister and the monastic remains. They conduct geophysical surveys, excavate trenches, and find evidence of medieval structures, including a possible staircase and a hospital area.
Welcome to Chronicle; your home for all things medieval history! With documentaries covering everything from the collapse of the Roman Empire to the beginnings of the Renaissance, from Hastings to Charlemagne, we'll be exploring everything the Middle Ages have to offer.
Subscribe now so you don't miss out!
Chronicle is part of the History Hit Network. To get in touch please email owned-enquiries@littledotstudios.com.
📺 Discover the past on History Hit with ad-free exclusive podcasts and documentaries released weekly presented by world-renowned historians Dan Snow, Suzannah Lipscomb, Matt Lewis, and more. Get 50% off your first 3 months with code CHRONICLE 👉 access.historyhit.com/
In my little village in Alto Alentejo, Portugal, most of the residents have nicknames to distinguish them from the many other Antonios, Juans, Joses etc. One of my neighbours is known as Antonio 'Freirinha', or Little Nun. He and his ancestors carry that nickname because many, many years ago, one of them was a gardener boy at the local convent. He was caught one day, en flagrante with a young novice of the order. She was dismissed and both were made to marry before the child was born. From that day forward, their descendants were known as the Little Nuns. I do love my little village.
Muito bom, companheiro!! 😂😂😂
Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤❤❤❤
What a wonderful story. Thank you for sharing it.
@@travellerstoryteller
Obrigado !! 😁
The same thing in my town. Some families have monikers as special description, like, "Mantika"(oil), "kabag" (air in the belly that becomes a fart when you break wind), kamisola (a woman's inner garment), balde( bucket), sampalok(tamarind), my family lineage is kuping( outstretched ears). A quick and funny way to skim through all the generations and pin point your original ancestry.
Monasteries and convents in my country (Bolivia) are said to be connected through underground tunnels; last time the sewer system had to be updated in the area of Cochabamba's cathedral, a tunnel was found and it contained the bones of little children. The nearest convent was two blocks away.
One of my many times great grandmother's left Ireland for America in 1740 at the age of 15 because she didn't want to be a Nun and 35 years later 2 of her sons fought in the American Revolution the oldest at the battle of Breads Hill and the second son was at Valley Forge and her youngest son and grandson fought in the war of 1812 all because she didn't want to become a Nun .
interest ng
WELL YOUR GREAT NAN SHOULD CONVERT TO ORTHODOX CHRISTIANITY BECAUSE A NUN AND PRIEST IN ORTHODOXY CAN GET MARRIED AND HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE MONASTERY XD.
@@
She wouldn't have none of that, then ;)
No orthodox nuns cannot marry once taken vows..in orthodox Christain church you can have married priest s but the catch is that they have to be married BEFORE they become orthodox priests..once becoming a priest you cannot marry..even if your wife dies unless you don't want to be a priest anymore.
I was stationed at RAF Chicksands during the late ‘70’s when it was an American intelligence collection base. It was a great slice of history cuddled in the curve of the river Flit. I lived off base in a charming town named, “Flitwick”.
We heard all about the ghost of the nun, Sister Rosetta, who was walled up due to her being pregnant by one of the monks. The story read that she was stood in a wide window sill of the Priory and made to watch the father of the child being flogged. Afterwards, she was walled up, alive.
There was, also, a tale of visits by the ghosts of murdered monks killed by King Henry VIII’S armed soldiers who stormed through during the disillusion of the Catholic properties.
The rose garden was an amazing place accessed only by a hidden entrance through a hedge.
Enjoyed a brief return visit via Time Team.
Cheers, Dick from Vancouver.
Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤❤
Its now the HQ of the entire Royal Intelligence Corps, and the MOD wide defense intelligency and security center, which is a ministry wide clearinghouse for information. we left it back to your use in 1997. ALthough technically it was never ours, we just rented it from you via bilateral defense agreements.
Thank you Chronicle. I don't know if anyone's interested but Schwerpunkt made tens of videos on Medieval monasticism, especially connected with the Gregorian Reforms, I strongly recommend them
Thank you
I wish that digs could always be left uncovered and displayed with sheet glass and information plaques for future archaeologists. After all, maybe 100 years from now, someone will be digging the site looking for already discovered information. Hopefully, up-to-date archives will prevent that happening. Thanks team. This is always time well spent for Anglophiles.
@@gaslitworldf.melissab2897they will just have to watch this video 🎉
Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤🎶
@@gaslitworldf.melissab2897 every dig in the world since the 1970s or so cross references and proves or disproves prior digs. i promise we live in a connected world now :)
Because I can’t resist…BALDRICK! It’s good to see you! 😅
this episode is 28 years old hehe
The loneliness would not bother me, but itchy clothes and lackluster nutrition would knock me out of the game pronto. And even though they probably didn't smell clean, thankfully our noses adjust pretty quickly to unpleasant smells. They must have been sorely malnourished. I wonder if the lifespan was shorter than those on the outside of similar class/backgrounds.
Take a look at Terry Jones' Medieval Lives series, "The Peasant" The lackluster diet was pretty universal; Pottage, take everything, boil it for a few hours and eat it. You might add a little flavor with salt and some beer, possibly bog myrtle flavored as hops weren't used yet.. The itchy woolens were really universal - even the King wore them. Add to that itch some crawlies. For monastics in silent orders it wasn't so much loneliness but a kind of self-imposed isolation - eyes down cast, meditation, prayer and work. The world outside was kept outside as much as possible. It's the sleep patterns where I'd have so much trouble. Up at 2, again at 4 and start your day. I'm like a jazz musician, I like to get up around 1 or 2 in the afternoon.
The English were starving on the the outside on the streets... in in Queen Victoria day, she did nothing to change the starvation: Very cruel:
Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤🎶🎶
the lifespan of a monk or nun depended hugely on the order they belonged to, not all were as ascetic as these were. some were quite liberal by the standards of the day.
In the 1960's my uncle (a former UK army officer) used to visit this US base in Bedfordshire. On his return he would bring Toosie Rolls, which were the best sweets I ever tasted.
Tootsie pops are even better!
Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤🎶🎶🎶
that totally makes me smile. the grand daughter of the founder of the company that makes tootsie rolls ended up being the CEO of tootsie roll industries and controlling about 85 percent of the USAs sweets production capacity LOL. theyre among my favorites as well. now if only we could have mars bars here my life would be complete. if you would like to arrange some trading via post, id be happy to ship you a few kilos of tootsie rolls in exchange for a box of mars bars for sure.
I'm glad to see a documentary that shows the wayward and opportunistic sides of research in Archaeology.
Research is never straightforward. But it yields results heretofor unseen. I'm glad you don't dismiss them in your original quest.
I wish you all a fruitful discovery.
Wow look at the crowd!
Wish you had another 3 days, I was truly invested!
Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤❤🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Would love to hear more about the osteoarcheology, especially carbon dating of the bones to confirm that they were actually uncovering what they thought they were. The skull and its associated bones looked remarkably well preserved for bone that was supposed to be in the soil for nearly a thousand years (with internment in roughly the eleventh to thirteenth centuries).
Soil conditions and how the body was interred can all affect bone preservation significantly - and I mean bones buried at the same time can be utterly corroded or preserved intact depending on the circumstances, Their osteoarcheologist does take bone preservation into account and judge soil conditions.
The stratigraphy and other archeological dating evidence can confirm the time period the bones were buried; Radio carbon dating is just one tool of many that can be used, but isn't really necessary depending on the circumstances. Obviously radio carbon dating is used when possible, even if just to provide another independent scientific test to confirm their findings, but enough evidence can exist from other sources.
@@13minutestomidnight The brackish Baltic preserves wooden ships, and peat bogs almost mummify their organic contents, or create a Nessie
Same here
13minutes.... Strange that you don't mention what horror and destruction King Henry 8th did to his peoples:
Forcing them to convert to Protestantism:
The Roman Catholic Priests, who refused to convert, where hunted, caught, imprisoned " drawn & quarted" their
body parts were displayed on long poles put in the villages and cities around England, showm as a example if you do not accept Protestantism :
Maybe England has forgotten this !!
@@fritula6200 Not sure why you have a bee in your bonnet about the 16th century King Henry VIII and this documentary about a monastery from the 13th century. While perhaps semi-adjacent time periods, they cover a span of over 300 years. I don’t think that the English or these documentarians have forgotten the struggles that took place between Catholic and Protestant factions in England, a national civil war arose from that transition. It just has little to do with an archeological excavation of a monastery that predates those events.
Thanks for posting.
Many thanks for that exclusive content !
its not exclusive theres four youtube channels with the entire series plus the official channel with new crowd funded episodes. chronicle is just licensing these.
We know they were getting it on, The pious life of a monk could only get you do far
Lol
This was a great one. Thanks❤
Thankyou for uploading these Time Team episodes, they're brilliant. It's funny how the Gilbertine nuns proudly told the tale of how they tortured and murdered a man (to say nothing of what they did to the girl) all to validate their own order by the bs claim of a miracle. Serves them right for allowing someone (and a child at that) to be forcefully imprisoned in their own order in the first place.
...Whenever I hear that story I do honestly hope that was just a propaganda cover-up for the fact that the girl stabbed the nuns enforcing this atrocity instead.
The Gilbertine Order of Canons Regular was founded around 1130 by Saint Gilbert in Sempringham, Lincolnshire, where Gilbert was the parish priest.
It was the only completely English religious order, meaning not brought in from outside, it was founded in England.
It came to an end in the 16th century at the time of the Dissolution of the Monasteries which King Henry 8th destroyed and slaughtered the religious and taken all their monasteries and lands, then distributed all this property to the Lords & Earls who accepted Protestantism, who became wealthy over night:
Gilbertine revivals have taken place in the late 20th and early 21st centuries on three continents.
The Monastery is a closed Order:
Yes, the story of the girl was true.
Saint Gilbert initially established a community for enclosed contemplative nuns.
He accepted seven women whom he had taught in the village school and n 1131 founded an order of nuns based on the Cistercian Rule.
Gilbert set up buildings and a cloister for them against the north wall of the church, which stood on his land at Sempringham, and gave them a rule of life, enjoining upon them chastity, humility, obedience, and charity.
Their daily necessaries were passed to them through a window
Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤
This is amazing
Talk about click-bait! However, in spite of the lack of juicy scandal, I really enjoyed it, as always.
🔅 wow!
Ohh no😱tell me it isn’t so 🤣🤣🤣 (about those late Saturday nights and the tunnels 😂)
This is so crazy
I dont know whats been going on lately but this is the third episode this week I havent seen before. I really wish yall would make a robust playlist across all your accounts of each season episode by episode. But then again maybe I havent looked hard enough.
Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤❤🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
I ran into a door kiddies! 😂
Does anybody know the music rhey used? Thank you!
They found Joseph’s sweater of many colors.
Way-to-go Jennie.
Poor Jenny!
HaHa!🤣😂🤣😂
How did they come up with that??!?
Stewart looks like my grandfather. He was an Ainsworth (technically makes me Ainsworth as much as a StClair). We're all American from pretty much colonial times though. I don't know how closely we could possibly be related if at all, but Stewart resembles my grandfather a great deal. Even his hands...weird. Lol.
The problem is Henry VIII dissolved the church lands to make himself rich and in doing so he made it possible for people to takedown all the old buildings and replace them with new.
Cloistered life still is as she experienced it. Everything is done as a sacrifice and prayer for others. Not talking is to make reparation for those who sin through speaking such as to lie, slander, etc. keeping eyes cast down is to make reparation for sins with ones eyes. Just examples. Sleeping on a thin bed on a hard wooden frame, going hungry, going without sleep, all of it was a life of prayer and sacrifice. Not just when they went to the chapel to pray. Well done showing this. And yes, the habits were supposed to be uncomfortable too.
My favorite part of this was 24 hours as none. I’m sure they did give her a lot to think about in the aftermath.
One must wonder if Baldrick's father was a Gilbertine 🤔
No he was a Sullavaine.
How do you hit your head on the front door? 😂
Specially that hard.
Re Jenny's "nice rest" on the tiles this punishment, called a penance, was still around even in the 20th century. However i don't know how common it was by then.
It could even be self imposed, and if you went to sleep you dobbed yourself in even if you got away with it.and suffered for more time. The tiles were always arthritically cold. Sometimes nuns were told to, or voluntarily, chanted prayers for forgiveness or the Hail Mary, I think to show you were awake.
It was thought that mortifying one's earthly body was good for the soul and glorified God. Hence the poor diet even when monasteries and convents were rich, breaking sleep, not being warm, etc.
Likewise usually distractions away from religious contemplation and learning were frowned upon and so were lucuries. Nun's bedrooms were called cells and even last century (maybe now?) were as tiny as possible with a single bed, hard mattress and one plain blanket. You were allowed a crucifix and perhaps one religious picture on your walls.
It could be a very hard life but, perhaps through self hypnosis or brainwashing the people who chose it claimed to find contentment.
opus dei practices all those ancient rituals. including self whipping and the wearing of a belt of metal hooks on ones thigh called a cilice belt. creeps me out to be honest.
This was SOP, not unusual at all.
And the tunnels ?!
Was this the case of the blue nun ?
Amazing Sweater
At 19:53...The prospective Nuns hair was also a symbol of LICE! So, yeah, it's got to go...
I mean...they still wear clothes they apparently never wash
As a cat owner I´m used to getting up at 1.30 and 3.30 and 5.30 so iIwould make an excellent nun on the first day!😄
Sooo why is it the Nun are called the Naughty Nuns. Maybe it was the the Monks.
Well that’s just a given 😂😂😂
2:04 leave her, you deserve better than that! 😢
and you were there in that time ? it's all a bit here-say...
So other than the unfortunate canon and young woman there is only one count of known naughtiness.
Nobody is trapped in the Roman Catholic Church:
They can leave whenever they want.
lol prior to the dissolution if you were a briton who refused to be catholic you would be at best shunned, at worst murdered. dont revise history.
...and please tell us at which spot did you find the condom machines???
Ye olde shittery.
the play scenes of the "fake nun" using very bad bluescreen/CGI takes somewhat destroy the whole thing. Even if you showed it beeing fake near the end. It interupts the overall good video again and again with obviously "fake" content. Non-fake would include her really living in a real cell for herself and observing all services according to rule. Else you cannot speak from a realistic experience. No speaking, no cell phone between takes. Else well done Black Adder...
this was made 28 years ago. stop guttersniping.
I suppose it’s a British thing to call physical items “archeology,” as in, “there’s archeology in this trench.”
I flushed a huge archeology this afternoon.
I thought that was interesting too. I’m Canadian, and we would probably use the word assemblage for a grouping of artifacts in a find or a dig.
no, thats an archaeologist thing. we say the same here in the states.
@@ditzygypsy its an assemblage of finds in a tray, its archaeology, or an archaeological deposit in the trench.
he didn't get a complete black eye because he's Not going to tell the Whole Truth !!!!!!!
sorry. nine Years of catholic nuns' kind of turned me off.
Military intelligence is an oxymoron.
How long have you waited to key that tiny morsel?
How long have you been a Negative Nancy, @@janaleland9038?
The British monasteries waffled between Catholicism and Christianity over those centuries. The very early days were Christian.
Re-born evangelican? Right?
Funny, I always thought Catholics ARE Christians.
@@patmanchester8045 And I bet 99 % of the world population would agree with u on that...
Anyway, ask a member of e.g. the "Westboro Baptist Church" and u ll hear that the Catholic Church
is a "demonic serpent worshipping cult" gg
me too @@patmanchester8045
The Early Church in England was Roman Catholic until King Henry 8th slaughtered the Catholics, for NOT CONVERTING TO PROTESTANTISM:
THIS is horrendous, but the English pretend this didn't happen: And then the Protestants hate Catholic ???
I wonder why ?
How many believe Tony hit his head on his front door? 🥴. Looks to me like his wife bonked him on the head with a Coke bottle.,. 😛
He'll get her chocolate the next time she tells him, I bet.
Human nature does NOT change - nothing " naughty " went on - they acted like the sexual beasts that people are - only time and circumstances changed - and ultimately who cares - I hope they were happy and content !
THE BRITS AND THEIR ""WTF HAIR DOOS"", P.S. TIME TEAM IS OUT OF TIME IDIOS !