Wasn't Susan Triad revealed to be kind by Kate Lethbridge Stewart? Maybe there is a version of Susan Triad untouched by Sutekh. Maybe we saw a glimpse of her as the hiker in 73 yards in the timeline without the Doctor. Maybe the kind woman is the Doctor's Mother last seen intervening in the End of Time.
@@RadioactiveChannel06 her head and face shape are completely different. Why have someone else play Susan in the first place when the og is STILL ALIVE
@@RadioactiveChannel06 Personally i'd prefer if they brought in Claudia Grant. She was great as Ford in An Adventure in Space and Time, and was also good in Big Finish. Sure it's been about a decade now. But if Susan was meant to be from after The Doctor left her with David, that could actually work well. Would be fun to see Susan's life in moments, starting with Grant as Susan, subtly aging her up with makeup, before bringing in Carole Ann Ford for a regeneration set much later on. If David Bradley can go from the biopic to the actual show, i think the other actors would work equally well one day, if they wanted. Ian and Barbara especially. I can't see that happening though, with the recent death of William Russell, they probably want to leave that character alone for a bit.
Time lords are born with one heart, they do develope a second heart after their first regeneration to support the trauma of the freshly regenerated body and the subsequent regenerations.@@samtamoglia7335
I like the idea of somehow Ruby Sunday is not the Doctors' grand daughter but great grand daughter; that would be a cool dynamic between them, bringing back that family element from the OG.
It must be Susan. Even if she's regenerated because Carole Ann Ford nearly 84 it must be. They wouldn't bring her up just to pull the rug from under the Doctor.
Wouldnt that have been great... if only. But shes just some gal making coffee and has a spoon... anyone else hyped? Woohooo she has a spoon. What a pay off.
I never understood why the doctor used to say "I'm the last of the time lords" when he had a timelady granddaughter, I hope Carol Ann Ford is seen again as Susan and maybe she can regenerate finally?
If Sutekh of all people is returning why not? Leela is great, its funny that a character named as tribute to her ended up becoming much more famous (not anything against Futurama's Leela, she's great too). However I don't feel like this is as likely as some other possibilities.
I think Miss Flood is the Rani remember in the Collin Baker Episode The Mark Of The Rani the Rani says to the doctor that she can change her appearance but unlike the Doctor and The Marster there stook to what they got. So my theory is it's the Rani.
Possible "Kind Women": - Susan, played by the original actor no less - Romana, in e-space no less … and providing an entropy sink? - Leela, in Gallifrey's rubble … I guess Romana could be too - Nyssa, at the edge of the universe - the woman standing behind Rassilon, but it's not the Doctor's mother - the woman standing behind Rassilon, but it's Tecteun - the Doctor's mother but not revealed elsewhere - Mrs Flood or her alter ego, but I doubt it - River Song, but I doubt it
Master Vainglorious played in Legend of Ruby Sunday, so although it's a stretch maybe by "oldest enemy" RTD actually means the Master? Maybe that's who Mrs Flood is?
I would really hate if she is the master honestly. The twist itself isn’t bad at all but I jus don’t like her as the master specifically. I don’t think she’d be a good counterpart to Ncuti’s Doctor. We need someone younger and more menacing.
Also extended theorization either sutekh had always been hidden around the tardis since ruby road, hence "the one who waits" or there was some time manipulation and sutekh only manifested himself from the recordings. But its pretty freaky to consider that he was always there hidden around the tardis
@@Jackson-yr7jp I think it's implied that Sutekh had some control over the Tardis as far back as Wild Blue Yonder, since that's the first episode where we heard to Tardis make that groaning sound.
@@Brand-New-Adventures After the Time War and the Master Cyber-fying all of the Time Lords, he may have thought she was dead but maybe she survived both.
No Sarah Jane to help battle Sutekh this time, which is a shame; I'm going to feel entirely shortchanged if there isn't a tectron crucible to riddle out of.
Who says she couldn’t return. Princess Leya returned in Star Wars after Carrie fisher died, they used special technology for a short scene. I don’t think it’s likely at all. But if she was a ghost or any other oar character. I reckon it’ll be Susan though.
Ok everyone hear me out I have a theory, what if Ruby’s mother is the 13th Doctor? The reason I say that is that after The Giggle aired Russell said during the commentary for it ‘every Doctor bi-generated as well in their own personal timeline at the same location they originally regenerated’ so my theory is that if that’s true maybe 13 awoke on that cliff edge and sometime later somehow conceived Ruby? Another reason I say this is because when the 2023 Christmas special aired the first thing I noticed about her mom in the wide shots was that she was wearing short pants and boot like shoes which is the exact same thing 13 wore as well
@@NotAgnor okay, I disagree. The problem is this mystery with was built up like it was big thing, like a universal threat. The resolution to that mystery was so underwhelming it made Sutekh’s return look like a cheap pop a wrestling show to make people happy. And to be clear, I enjoyed the episode. But I would expect more satisfying resolutions to the series arc and the story with Sutekh. It was disappointing.
@@adamburke4738 what did you find underwhelming? As in Ruby’s mum? Bc that was sort of the point of it, how everybody is important no matter how ordinary
@@NotAgnor okay, respectfully, the whole ‘you missed the point’ card is overused in these discussions. I get that’s the point but doesn’t make it off limits to criticism. Sutekh being beaten with life, while poetic, is just too easy and makes him not all that powerful compared to Pyramids of Mars. I mean, he’s been attached to the Tardis all this so I kinda expect more of a challenge. As for Ruby’s mum, as I said before, that was built up so much that the old ‘she’s just ordinary’ isn’t the slightest bit satisfying since the audience was basically baited with a mystery that had no implications on the narrative. And while we’re at it, Ruby’s exit (assuming she’s left for good) is kinda cheapened by the announcement of a new companion months in advance so the emotion is kinda sucked out with that knowledge.
@@adamburke4738 I don’t think Sutekh’s ending made him less powerful. Given the detrimental impacts on the universe and how difficult it was to stop him I’d say that was pretty powerful. The idea is that he had tunnel vision and was blinded by the mystery that he let his guard down. It was announced that Millie and Varada would travel in the TARDIS together, that’s why they made it so explicit that they’d reunite and the preview clip on unleashed is of ruby
It is very one dimensional to think that every "god" is going to be evil. I think Ms. Flood is the Harbinger for Sian Cliffords character,. who will be some kind of benevolent "god".
That’s a great point actually! Some positive gods is a great idea, idk if it’d be the pantheon, that collection hasn’t really been explained. 2 are related so are they all? My theory for Sian is that she’s playing Susan Foreman or Susan Triad’s mum. It’s on that distant planet, scene 27B and I doubt they’d mention the Doctor’s granddaughter so much if it weren’t brought up again
Doctors oldest enemy has always been master and the masters theme was played during legend of ruby Sunday. Is this all a massive bluff by master and trickster who have teamed up Edit: Also couple theories on who the kind woman is 1. a post regen missy who has survived and that’s why we got the masters theme. 2. Her name will be joy. Kate said u bring joy the Christmas special is joy to the world what if this kind lady is a link between the two maybe a way to rectify what is done in finale
It's probably Susan Foreman, but I wouldn't be mad if it was someone like Tecteun. She was killed off way too quickly. I at least hope the far away planet is Gallifrey, and that there are some Time Lords left after the Master destroyed it during Series 12. I'm getting a little bit sick of the Doctor being 'the last of the Time Lords' again, because it just feels like everything between the 50th anniversary and the 60th meant nothing.
I've just realized. It must be pretty difficult to take control of the TARDIS. Unless. What if the TARDIS is for some reason cooperating with Sutekh? Like, maybe she got fed up with the Doctor for always doing stuff that break her? And then she let Sutekh hitch a ride in the TARDIS as kind of a "that would show them" thingy.
00:37 Bit of a underwhelming reveal if anyone has watched the finale, but I’ll give it to Russell here as he wasn’t lying, just was slightly misleading
a VERY long time ago, I doubt she just stayed still, perhaps the time lords brought her back to Gallifrey, perhaps she hitchhiked with some friendly space travelling species. maybe she met someone with a vortex manipulator and has been travelling across the stars.
@@stevencgr it's all leading to her I guess. But something about Mrs Flood hiding herself away whilst on Earth resonates with my space time co-ordinator.
@@spluff5 they cut it down to 8 episodes per season in exchange for consistently having a season every single year instead of skipping years like they used to do
@@itsalexney I think she the Rani remember in the Collin Baker Episode The Mark Of The Rani the Rani says to the doctor that she can change her appearance but unlike the Doctor and The Marster there stook to what they got. So my theory is it's the Rani.
@@007beck9 they also mentioned her which I doubt was by coincidence. Her house door is tardis blue. I think with the Disney budget they have the rights to use it.
Brilliant episode, I feel like it would have been cool to get 14 in this one and kill him off to tie that story off. Surely 14 would help out if this really happened
55 minutes to do sutekh appropriately, solve mrs flood, rubys mum, why susan triad kept appearing everywhere, harbinger and probably more that ive missed..... yeah this episode is going to be a mess
The kind woman gives the doctor a spoon that he slots into an old TV screen for no reason and then she dies... How is this important to know. And Rubys mother? Just some random person who has nothing to do with anything. Its like his big master plan this season was to raise up everyone's expectations and then utterly disappoint. Great work (he says sarcastically)
The spoon was vital because it was one of the last remaining tangible and permanent things in the universe, everything else was dust so the screen needed that memory, it’s a parallel to the VHS being needed for the time window. For Ruby’s mum that was the whole point and I thought it paid off brilliantly tbh
@@NotAgnor Deluded lol it was a snoozefest and it wrapped up horribly I love RTD and the episodes this season, Dot and Bubble wrapped up beautifully I was almost in tears, this was horrific and he had the nerve to say it was bigger than The Parting of The Ways, Journeys End and The End of Time Part 2 ABSOLUTELY NOT here is a quote from him about it. “Literally, the biggest finale ever. There’s some shots of that in the trailers coming up. Oh my God, you’re gonna die.” “Literally, the biggest finale ever." is he drunk? Like I say I loved this season overall, I love Ncuti, I love Millie but Empire of Death wasn't it.
@@JESS1CA1996 it wasn’t a “snooze fest”, it was really engaging and intense. It didn’t wrap up horribly it was a great ending It was the biggest finale ever, the entire universe was actually dead, not just a threat of it
After a really good penultimate episode This finale episode was an absolute tedious let sound with half the questions unanswered and a load of endless boring schmaltz for the last 20 minutes honestly don't waste your time watching it everyone is Revived and Ruby finds her mum there we go
What questions weren’t answered? I’d say it’s nowhere near boring. You’re saying it’s a waste of time to watch questions get answered but then also say they don’t? That’s contradictory
@@CyberSlammer2024 Mrs Flood won’t be answered till season 3, it was never gonna be answered and we knew that. It snowed around Ruby because she was thinking of her mum.
@@NotAgnor I get that but why point at a bloody road sign. It dosent make sense. Like how did she expect anyone to name her ruby Sunday. Just say in a room I go point at a book and think hm I’m gonna call my child “Ernest Hemingway” and not speak a word and then I drop down dead no one’s gonna think well well I think this child should be called Ernest Hemingway. Who the hell was she pointing for as well? And it was way to dramatic as well, to dramatic actually for such a basic reveal and I felt a little insulted by the end of it
@@L.BCinematography it was exaggerated. She wasn’t actually wearing a cloak, she didn’t actually point at the road sign, it’s just that the night had been so tampered with and it was such a pivotal moment for the entire universe that it was exaggerated
@@Brand-New-Adventures Depends on if they canonize the Big Finish stories, and going off of Richard E Grant's appearance in Rogue, I'm guessing it's ALL canon now, especially the contradictory stuff lol
@alastormedial Personally, it'll be someone who helped stop Sutekh last time or maybe River Song. But I have a feeling the season will end with Susan Twist now free walking away from the Doctor, but it promotes him to search for his Susan as Ruby searches for her mom.
We prey to God that the "June 2024" version of Dr Who gets cancelled and never gets aired ever again. This should be enough for the British public to stop paying the criminal TV License for an institute run by dinosaur's.
far away on a Distant planet a kind woman is waiting with information that is Vital for the doctor = I'm saying it > it’s SUSAN!! It has to be Susan!😃😁😁😎!! Roll on the reveal!!
@@NotAgnor An entity attaching itself to the TARDIS and becoming more powerful is copied from the "Timewyrm Genesis". Seeding Susan Triads is copied from the Impossible Girl. Rogue is an AliExpress Jack Harkness. He probably saw "Goblins", got drunk after s#agging N'cuti and vomited the script for Space Babies. The apparently happy colony with an underlying layer of terror has been done before (Macra Terror). The only original thing is that he put his lover in underwear to make the show even more laughable.
Please let's not do an extra long episode of this woke crap that no one is interested in. RTD please cancel it before it's too late for some else to restore it to its former glory. After 60 years of being a fan and buying all the DVDs and Blu-ray's I have to say this series is total crap. I used to watch it with my children they stopped watching as I did.
@@simonjones1017 the uk viewing figures are nothing compared to the uk viewing figures? You’re contradicting yourself 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 It’s reached over 4 million “in the uk alone”, that’s literally a fact. Do some bloody research and then spout your bigotry Either way viewing figures and ai index are irrelevant
@@simonjones1017 barely anybody watches standard tv now though, and if the bbc and Disney are happy then that’s the end of it, nobody really cares whether you watch or not
The defeat of Sutekh was the cheapest and laziest writing I’ve watched in a long time. God of death defeated by a bungie cord and a non-canonical ability to whistle the Tardis controls.
It is canonical that the Doctor can whistle to control the TARDIS, it was proved in the 10th and 12th Doctor’s eras. He wasn’t defeated by a bungee cord, he was defeated by being tricked back and letting his guard down because he was so blindly focussed on the mystery. It’s nowhere near lazy writing
@@NotAgnor I don’t know when he could have whistled to control the Tardis at 10. But for 12 I think you’re thinking about the episode The Return of Doctor Mysterio. He doesn’t whistle to control the Tardis, he whistles so that Nardole knows to move the Tardis to him. Russel T Davies created an incredibly compelling mystery but I don’t think even he knew what to do with it. The directors and producers would have to bring Russell T Davies on set to explain the convoluted plot, only for him to confuse everyone further. So at the end of the day, they had no choice but to force last minute sloppy plot points to make it work.
Does this man have an original idea in his head? I thought you hated older fans and older Doctors Russell and so why are you constantly using ideas from Classic Who? To have Sutekh back with this weaker half Doctor isn’t a good idea. Peter Capaldi’s Doctor would have been better to meet Sutekh again but not Gatwa.
@@orwellknew3408 Not even close, but then again, you spent 6 years whining about every episode ever that you wanted RTD back, and now he is you continue to whine. So, no one is gonna take you seriously. 🤣
When you have to big up your own writing, because you're scared nobody will watch after being once the saviour and now the destroyer of a beloved show.
One episode that was okay does not make up for low ratings and an overall poorly received shortened season. Cringe worthy show now, gone are the days I'd watch it "live" then watch several times more on iPlayer waiting for the next episode. Tune in next week, death is defeated by a mother's love. oh boy!!! just have to wait and see....
Low ratings? where, it's averaging a combined 5-6 million for every episode this season, is in the most streamed shows on Disney plus, and most viewed in the UK, just because it's not topping everything doesn't=low ratings 😂
@@paulkelly-gt3ec You are aware the consolidated figures on 7 days are consistently over 4.5 million, topping out Chibnalls era and this isn't factoring in the 30 day periods or the unknown Disney number. The show has consistently been top 20 and even hit top 10 in the age of streaming. It's doing fine.
![MRS FLOOD'S IDENTITY REVEALED?? [DOCTOR WHO: EMPIRE OF DEATH TOP THEORIES!] WHO IS SHE?!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zDOkFdhTsJ4/mqdefault.jpg)
The kind woman obviously must finally have Cherry's cup of tea!
Poor women's been waiting since bloody Christmas
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@cinnamontoastcrunch5665 not even the most recent Christmas since it was winter in 73 yards! She's been waiting for over a year!
I will absolutely howl with laughter if Cherry's cup of tea becomes plot relevant
Wasn't Susan Triad revealed to be kind by Kate Lethbridge Stewart?
Maybe there is a version of Susan Triad untouched by Sutekh. Maybe we saw a glimpse of her as the hiker in 73 yards in the timeline without the Doctor.
Maybe the kind woman is the Doctor's Mother last seen intervening in the End of Time.
The "kind woman" is listed in the casting credits. She's being played by Sian Clifford who was in Fleabag.
@@RadioactiveChannel06 homie what do you mean she looks crazy different than Ann Ford
@@RadioactiveChannel06 her head and face shape are completely different. Why have someone else play Susan in the first place when the og is STILL ALIVE
@@RadioactiveChannel06 Personally i'd prefer if they brought in Claudia Grant. She was great as Ford in An Adventure in Space and Time, and was also good in Big Finish. Sure it's been about a decade now. But if Susan was meant to be from after The Doctor left her with David, that could actually work well. Would be fun to see Susan's life in moments, starting with Grant as Susan, subtly aging her up with makeup, before bringing in Carole Ann Ford for a regeneration set much later on. If David Bradley can go from the biopic to the actual show, i think the other actors would work equally well one day, if they wanted. Ian and Barbara especially. I can't see that happening though, with the recent death of William Russell, they probably want to leave that character alone for a bit.
Please be Susan Foreman
that’s what i’m thinking
Definitely. I could see Ruby being the Doctor's great granddaughter.
@@samtamoglia7335 I thought something similar except wouldn't Ruby know she has two hearts?
@@JoshWiniberg Might be a chameleon arch related thing.
Time lords are born with one heart, they do develope a second heart after their first regeneration to support the trauma of the freshly regenerated body and the subsequent regenerations.@@samtamoglia7335
Susan is ACTUALLY returning!
Susan who?
@@babajushSusan foreman.
@@babajushexactly 😉
SUSAN IS COMING BACK?!😃😊😭I blooming hope it’s true😭😭!!!
I’m impressed that these episodes were made a year ago and no leaks from the cast or crew.
Because by the end of the season there is nothing interesting to leak
I like the idea of somehow Ruby Sunday is not the Doctors' grand daughter but great grand daughter; that would be a cool dynamic between them, bringing back that family element from the OG.
That would be... 😱🤩
Ruby's not the companion for series 15 tho.
@@Veela666 On Wikipedia Millie Gibson is listed as "starring" alongside Ncuti Gatwa and Varada Sethu
@@MrEveningsun true, but she's more gunna be like how Donna was in series 4.
The doctors oldest enemy lol I think the daleks would have something to say about that
Nah, those random cavemen from "an unearthly child" have something to say
Oldest as in the character's age?
Can’t wait for the cavemen to return for the finale
Oldest In age though
@@shanemitchell7822 The Doctor finally beats one to death with a rock and the whole show comes full circle
*Anakin Skywalker voice* "you LIAR!!!!!!"
It must be Susan. Even if she's regenerated because Carole Ann Ford nearly 84 it must be. They wouldn't bring her up just to pull the rug from under the Doctor.
I think Carol Ann Ford has said multiple times she’d like to come back at least once more
THE KIND WOMAN IS SUSAN!!! I AM CALLING IT
Kind woman? Played by Sian Clifford?
Wouldnt that have been great... if only. But shes just some gal making coffee and has a spoon... anyone else hyped? Woohooo she has a spoon. What a pay off.
I never understood why the doctor used to say "I'm the last of the time lords" when he had a timelady granddaughter, I hope Carol Ann Ford is seen again as Susan and maybe she can regenerate finally?
What if the kind woman is Leela? We’ve already had a clip of her in the time war and I’m sure Louise Jameson would’ve loved to come back
I think this is the most likely scenario, it's already been set up that she's out there waiting for somet
If Sutekh of all people is returning why not? Leela is great, its funny that a character named as tribute to her ended up becoming much more famous (not anything against Futurama's Leela, she's great too). However I don't feel like this is as likely as some other possibilities.
Leela can't regenerate, and why would we want to see a recast Leela anyway? Louise Jameson is great!
@@c.alderman We don't know who the kind woman is yet, It might be Jameson as Leela
@@zarrg5611 We do! It’s Sian Clifford
I think Miss Flood is the Rani remember in the Collin Baker Episode The Mark Of The Rani the Rani says to the doctor that she can change her appearance but unlike the Doctor and The Marster there stook to what they got. So my theory is it's the Rani.
Possible "Kind Women":
- Susan, played by the original actor no less
- Romana, in e-space no less … and providing an entropy sink?
- Leela, in Gallifrey's rubble … I guess Romana could be too
- Nyssa, at the edge of the universe
- the woman standing behind Rassilon, but it's not the Doctor's mother
- the woman standing behind Rassilon, but it's Tecteun
- the Doctor's mother but not revealed elsewhere
- Mrs Flood or her alter ego, but I doubt it
- River Song, but I doubt it
Spoon.
Those 10 minutes mean so much fr
Master Vainglorious played in Legend of Ruby Sunday, so although it's a stretch maybe by "oldest enemy" RTD actually means the Master? Maybe that's who Mrs Flood is?
I would really hate if she is the master honestly. The twist itself isn’t bad at all but I jus don’t like her as the master specifically. I don’t think she’d be a good counterpart to Ncuti’s Doctor. We need someone younger and more menacing.
Except... if it were, they would have recognised the police box immediately. Mrs F. didn't. 🎉
They should let the Master rest for a few seasons.
"It was the Master all along!" type twists don't work if they happen too often.
I know hes just trying to sell the show but he was SO right about how good part 1 of the finale was that im just gonna believe it and be hyped haha!!
FIFTY FIVE MINUTES THANK GOD
It really shows how great stories can be when they're multiple parts and have the runtime needed to breathe and pace themselves properly!
Sutekh was pretty cool its got a similar feeling to the beast, maybe the beast was a member of the pantheon of discord
Also extended theorization either sutekh had always been hidden around the tardis since ruby road, hence "the one who waits" or there was some time manipulation and sutekh only manifested himself from the recordings.
But its pretty freaky to consider that he was always there hidden around the tardis
@@Jackson-yr7jp I think it's implied that Sutekh had some control over the Tardis as far back as Wild Blue Yonder, since that's the first episode where we heard to Tardis make that groaning sound.
We knew it would be
Oooooh Russell you tease!!!
A kind woman is waiting with something absolutely vital ? I wonder WHO that could be ?
Susan
@@bbblll1415How? That implies he knew where she was, making 50% of today's episode irrelevant.
@@Brand-New-Adventures After the Time War and the Master Cyber-fying all of the Time Lords, he may have thought she was dead but maybe she survived both.
@@bbblll1415 But that wouldn't explain why he thought Susan Twist was her if he knew she was on another planet.
@@Brand-New-Adventures how does that imply that at all?
So excited for this one
*i hope the trickster is coming next season*
Love this one
An extra 10 minutes shouldnt count as "extra long", but im still here for it
No Sarah Jane to help battle Sutekh this time, which is a shame; I'm going to feel entirely shortchanged if there isn't a tectron crucible to riddle out of.
Who says she couldn’t return. Princess Leya returned in Star Wars after Carrie fisher died, they used special technology for a short scene. I don’t think it’s likely at all. But if she was a ghost or any other oar character. I reckon it’ll be Susan though.
SUSAN!!!! That's all I want!!!! THANKS for this!!!!
all the Doctor Who trolls will have to eat crow after that fantastic episode and a return of one of the 4th Doctors greatest foes!
No mate. Cos they hate anything that's black .so they wouldn't go near it . "Why isn't it a dove. Grrr ! Equality . Something Something "
@@georgemoseley1504
What?
"Oldest enemy" uhhh im guessing he means age
Because if not the oldest would be the daleks or the master
Ok everyone hear me out I have a theory, what if Ruby’s mother is the 13th Doctor? The reason I say that is that after The Giggle aired Russell said during the commentary for it ‘every Doctor bi-generated as well in their own personal timeline at the same location they originally regenerated’ so my theory is that if that’s true maybe 13 awoke on that cliff edge and sometime later somehow conceived Ruby? Another reason I say this is because when the 2023 Christmas special aired the first thing I noticed about her mom in the wide shots was that she was wearing short pants and boot like shoes which is the exact same thing 13 wore as well
That's a good theory
Ain’t gonna happen
Russsel.... you cooked. DAMN.
Well Russell, you blew it.
It was so good, favourite finale so far excluding WEAT/TDF
@@NotAgnor okay, I disagree. The problem is this mystery with was built up like it was big thing, like a universal threat. The resolution to that mystery was so underwhelming it made Sutekh’s return look like a cheap pop a wrestling show to make people happy. And to be clear, I enjoyed the episode. But I would expect more satisfying resolutions to the series arc and the story with Sutekh. It was disappointing.
@@adamburke4738 what did you find underwhelming? As in Ruby’s mum? Bc that was sort of the point of it, how everybody is important no matter how ordinary
@@NotAgnor okay, respectfully, the whole ‘you missed the point’ card is overused in these discussions. I get that’s the point but doesn’t make it off limits to criticism. Sutekh being beaten with life, while poetic, is just too easy and makes him not all that powerful compared to Pyramids of Mars. I mean, he’s been attached to the Tardis all this so I kinda expect more of a challenge. As for Ruby’s mum, as I said before, that was built up so much that the old ‘she’s just ordinary’ isn’t the slightest bit satisfying since the audience was basically baited with a mystery that had no implications on the narrative. And while we’re at it, Ruby’s exit (assuming she’s left for good) is kinda cheapened by the announcement of a new companion months in advance so the emotion is kinda sucked out with that knowledge.
@@adamburke4738 I don’t think Sutekh’s ending made him less powerful. Given the detrimental impacts on the universe and how difficult it was to stop him I’d say that was pretty powerful. The idea is that he had tunnel vision and was blinded by the mystery that he let his guard down. It was announced that Millie and Varada would travel in the TARDIS together, that’s why they made it so explicit that they’d reunite and the preview clip on unleashed is of ruby
Kind woman, far away? River Song anyone?
tectaeyune
she is dead since season 4
She bends over to do up her shoe laces. MOON RIVER. WIDER THAN A MILE!!!
It's going to be the real Susan I think, I don't think RTD would mention this much without an actual pay off
Susan probebly
0:43 This line sounds really important!!!
I hope Kate Stewart is still alive at the end of the season.
It is very one dimensional to think that every "god" is going to be evil. I think Ms. Flood is the Harbinger for Sian Cliffords character,. who will be some kind of benevolent "god".
That’s a great point actually! Some positive gods is a great idea, idk if it’d be the pantheon, that collection hasn’t really been explained. 2 are related so are they all? My theory for Sian is that she’s playing Susan Foreman or Susan Triad’s mum. It’s on that distant planet, scene 27B and I doubt they’d mention the Doctor’s granddaughter so much if it weren’t brought up again
It might be the new companion thats coming next season?
It's not. The Kind Woman is being played by Sian Clifford
my bet for who this ''mysterious'' kind woman is 1.river song, romona (or however her name is spelt) 3.susan forman
It's Romama II! Lalla Ward returns! ;-P
Doctors oldest enemy has always been master and the masters theme was played during legend of ruby Sunday. Is this all a massive bluff by master and trickster who have teamed up
Edit:
Also couple theories on who the kind woman is
1. a post regen missy who has survived and that’s why we got the masters theme.
2. Her name will be joy. Kate said u bring joy the Christmas special is joy to the world what if this kind lady is a link between the two maybe a way to rectify what is done in finale
It's a kind woman, I'm guessing Dolly Parton.
It's probably Susan Foreman, but I wouldn't be mad if it was someone like Tecteun. She was killed off way too quickly.
I at least hope the far away planet is Gallifrey, and that there are some Time Lords left after the Master destroyed it during Series 12. I'm getting a little bit sick of the Doctor being 'the last of the Time Lords' again, because it just feels like everything between the 50th anniversary and the 60th meant nothing.
I've just realized. It must be pretty difficult to take control of the TARDIS.
Unless.
What if the TARDIS is for some reason cooperating with Sutekh? Like, maybe she got fed up with the Doctor for always doing stuff that break her?
And then she let Sutekh hitch a ride in the TARDIS as kind of a "that would show them" thingy.
Its all over, everyone's dead, goodbye, pretty sure that would melt the internet.
I reckon the kind woman may be Mrs flood. Maybe she is going to help Cherry somehow. She knew what a Tardis was. Maybe she can travel somehow.
00:37 Bit of a underwhelming reveal if anyone has watched the finale, but I’ll give it to Russell here as he wasn’t lying, just was slightly misleading
I see what you mean, yeah, but tbf it was vital and nothing would work without it
I think the kind woman isnt Susan....its Jenny and Ruby Sunday is her daughter.
People really be having another "everyone is the master" phase with claiming every woman is Susan XD.
55 minutes is not extra long, 75 to 90 minutes would have been better.
That's a full on movie at that point
Russell 55mins isn’t that long 95% of Chibnall episodes were 50-60mins long
Gotta be Susan
All I want is for cherry to get her cup of tea! Idc if anyone dies
It would be nice, though I doubt it's Susan - as he left her on Earth - not on some distant planet.
a VERY long time ago, I doubt she just stayed still, perhaps the time lords brought her back to Gallifrey, perhaps she hitchhiked with some friendly space travelling species. maybe she met someone with a vortex manipulator and has been travelling across the stars.
@@stevencgr it's all leading to her I guess. But something about Mrs Flood hiding herself away whilst on Earth resonates with my space time co-ordinator.
there have been many BIG Hints about SUSAN Foreman
Susan is rubys mum
What story?
Wdym
RTD took a crap on the carpet and named it Dr. Ho. End of story.
What happens in the four episodes after this one?
There are no more episodes
The next episode it's the second part of the finale
The next will be the Christmas special
@@user-gj9uq3kb7y Oh. I wonder what stopped them from making a normal number of episodes.
@@spluff5 this is the new normal
i think
@@user-gj9uq3kb7y That's sad
@@spluff5 they cut it down to 8 episodes per season in exchange for consistently having a season every single year instead of skipping years like they used to do
I thought sutekh was an extraterrestrial, not a transcendental. What’s up with that?
Idk I guess we’ll find out
@@NotAgnor INCELS WANT TO KNOW!
The rani is back
Since when is the Rani described as a kind woman?
Already confirmed not to be, sorry!
I’m betting Ms Flood is the Rani.
@@itsalexney I think she the Rani remember in the Collin Baker Episode The Mark Of The Rani the Rani says to the doctor that she can change her appearance but unlike the Doctor and The Marster there stook to what they got. So my theory is it's the Rani.
@@007beck9 they also mentioned her which I doubt was by coincidence. Her house door is tardis blue. I think with the Disney budget they have the rights to use it.
DOES CHERRY EVER GER HER CUPPA TEAAA?!
😂. I hope so.
Brilliant episode, I feel like it would have been cool to get 14 in this one and kill him off to tie that story off. Surely 14 would help out if this really happened
swear to god, if that "woman" is River, Rose, Amy, Clara, Bill with Heather or Susan, I'm going to flip.
55 minutes to do sutekh appropriately, solve mrs flood, rubys mum, why susan triad kept appearing everywhere, harbinger and probably more that ive missed..... yeah this episode is going to be a mess
The doctor’s daughter?
what a load of rubbish it all was 😂😂😂😂
Plot twist, it's another Clara
Or Bill. ;)
So basically the doctor and ruby are siblings.
The kind woman is their mother 😂
The kind woman gives the doctor a spoon that he slots into an old TV screen for no reason and then she dies... How is this important to know. And Rubys mother? Just some random person who has nothing to do with anything. Its like his big master plan this season was to raise up everyone's expectations and then utterly disappoint. Great work (he says sarcastically)
The spoon was vital because it was one of the last remaining tangible and permanent things in the universe, everything else was dust so the screen needed that memory, it’s a parallel to the VHS being needed for the time window. For Ruby’s mum that was the whole point and I thought it paid off brilliantly tbh
@@NotAgnor Deluded lol it was a snoozefest and it wrapped up horribly I love RTD and the episodes this season, Dot and Bubble wrapped up beautifully I was almost in tears, this was horrific and he had the nerve to say it was bigger than The Parting of The Ways, Journeys End and The End of Time Part 2 ABSOLUTELY NOT here is a quote from him about it.
“Literally, the biggest finale ever. There’s some shots of that in the trailers coming up. Oh my God, you’re gonna die.”
“Literally, the biggest finale ever." is he drunk?
Like I say I loved this season overall, I love Ncuti, I love Millie but Empire of Death wasn't it.
@@JESS1CA1996 it wasn’t a “snooze fest”, it was really engaging and intense. It didn’t wrap up horribly it was a great ending
It was the biggest finale ever, the entire universe was actually dead, not just a threat of it
@@NotAgnor The glazing is crazy, like I say... Deluded
@@NotAgnor forgets about Flux
RTD: The Doctor faces his oldest enemy
The daleks and every other villain from seasons 1-12: am I a joke to you?
Technically its the "oldest" enemy
Yeah I know in context he means “most ancient” 😂
But it’s still funny
Ruby Sunday was not born on earth or to an earth woman Look at the blanket she's wrapped in.
God darn it Russell you did it again with all these hints and barely knows what happening. Hmm kind women? Maybe she part of Ruby's family 😅
All these mysterious women and when one of them is revealed BAM, another one.
it's the last viewer !... far far away...
Far away because there’s so many? Idk if you’re being ironically dumb or if it’s genuine but either way you’ve just disproved your point
stop rtd 😭 I told everyone ms flood was Susan but she’s not a kind woman on a different planet
After a really good penultimate episode This finale episode was an absolute tedious let sound with half the questions unanswered and a load of endless boring schmaltz for the last 20 minutes honestly don't waste your time watching it everyone is Revived and Ruby finds her mum there we go
What questions weren’t answered? I’d say it’s nowhere near boring. You’re saying it’s a waste of time to watch questions get answered but then also say they don’t? That’s contradictory
@@NotAgnor OK who is Mrs flood and why Does It Snow around Ruby in previous adventures are just two of the questions
@@CyberSlammer2024 Mrs Flood won’t be answered till season 3, it was never gonna be answered and we knew that. It snowed around Ruby because she was thinking of her mum.
@NotAgnor that makes no sense lol how can Ruby thinking of her mother suddenly make it snow she is just a normal humanoid.
@@CyberSlammer2024 the power of the memory and hunger for knowledge
Mrs Flood is Susan Twist me feels.
If only it was all over!
What?
Easily, stop watching, class it as over. Lol
I’m sorry but who the hell points at a road sign?
It was exaggerated because the night is “so raw and open”
@@NotAgnor I get that but why point at a bloody road sign. It dosent make sense. Like how did she expect anyone to name her ruby Sunday. Just say in a room I go point at a book and think hm I’m gonna call my child “Ernest Hemingway” and not speak a word and then I drop down dead no one’s gonna think well well I think this child should be called Ernest Hemingway. Who the hell was she pointing for as well? And it was way to dramatic as well, to dramatic actually for such a basic reveal and I felt a little insulted by the end of it
@@L.BCinematography it was exaggerated. She wasn’t actually wearing a cloak, she didn’t actually point at the road sign, it’s just that the night had been so tampered with and it was such a pivotal moment for the entire universe that it was exaggerated
@@NotAgnor that’s your theory but this is never stated in the episode
@@spencerreynolds0617 It is, just a throwaway line that’s easily missed
Is this real
the fact you cant tell is very very worrying, yes of course it is, this is indeed a video of RTD talking.
Trickster Shoudve been the villain
Maybe that's who's under the cloak.
@@Brand-New-Adventures 👀
@@aidendavies4648Well he's been mentioned a lot. :)
@@Brand-New-Adventures that’s what I’m hoping for
@@aidendavies4648 I'm guessing we'll find out next year.
Susan the granddaughter
did you even watch part 1? she was just a vessel, a trap to get the doctor away from the tardis
To obvious, I mean, if he knows she's on a distant planet, then why did he think Susan Twist was her?
@@Brand-New-Adventures Depends on if they canonize the Big Finish stories, and going off of Richard E Grant's appearance in Rogue, I'm guessing it's ALL canon now, especially the contradictory stuff lol
@alastormedial Personally, it'll be someone who helped stop Sutekh last time or maybe River Song.
But I have a feeling the season will end with Susan Twist now free walking away from the Doctor, but it promotes him to search for his Susan as Ruby searches for her mom.
Bernice Summerfield.
Grommer
Oof I hate grommers
I bet u any money David Tennant is returning as well
We prey to God that the "June 2024" version of Dr Who gets cancelled and never gets aired ever again.
This should be enough for the British public to stop paying the criminal TV License for an institute run by dinosaur's.
far away on a Distant planet a kind woman is waiting with information that is Vital for the doctor = I'm saying it > it’s SUSAN!! It has to be Susan!😃😁😁😎!! Roll on the reveal!!
But if it's Susan, why would the Doctor think Susan Twist was his Granddaughter?
Doesn't he look tired?
The End??? Are you talking about Doctor Who as a series fate???
No, just this season.
@@Brand-New-Adventures heard the series may just permanently end like season 26.
@@Brand-New-Adventures heard the series may just permanently end like season 26.
@digipeeper They've just finished filming season 2, and working on next year's Christmas Special.
Hasn't this been cancelled yet? Going the way of "The Acolyte."
There’s no reason to cancel a thriving show
@@NotAgnor Cope harder. Reruns of Alias on Disney+ is getting more views.
@@carlparsons8031 As if I’m the one coping lmfao
@@NotAgnor You know, you're a classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain.
Please be openly gay and perhaps trans
Disappointed.
RTD, will you ever have a (worthy) original idea?
@@Woke_Invaders has never not had one
@@NotAgnor An entity attaching itself to the TARDIS and becoming more powerful is copied from the "Timewyrm Genesis".
Seeding Susan Triads is copied from the Impossible Girl.
Rogue is an AliExpress Jack Harkness.
He probably saw "Goblins", got drunk after s#agging N'cuti and vomited the script for Space Babies.
The apparently happy colony with an underlying layer of terror has been done before (Macra Terror).
The only original thing is that he put his lover in underwear to make the show even more laughable.
‘Extra long’… you’re adding 10/15 mins on -let’s not get overexcited with that ‘extra long’ Russell! 😂🤣 Make it 90mins & then you can brag.
It's not harassment, when it spoken with facts. 😂😂😂 good luck, yer killed the already dying franchise.
Please let's not do an extra long episode of this woke crap that no one is interested in. RTD please cancel it before it's too late for some else to restore it to its former glory. After 60 years of being a fan and buying all the DVDs and Blu-ray's I have to say this series is total crap. I used to watch it with my children they stopped watching as I did.
By nobody you mean over 4 million people in the UK ALONE?
@@NotAgnor four million people 😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's NOTHING compared to what the viewing figures were "in UK alone" 😂😂😂😂
They used to get more than double that when it was shown only on BBC in one night.
@@simonjones1017 the uk viewing figures are nothing compared to the uk viewing figures? You’re contradicting yourself 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s reached over 4 million “in the uk alone”, that’s literally a fact. Do some bloody research and then spout your bigotry
Either way viewing figures and ai index are irrelevant
@@simonjones1017 barely anybody watches standard tv now though, and if the bbc and Disney are happy then that’s the end of it, nobody really cares whether you watch or not
The defeat of Sutekh was the cheapest and laziest writing I’ve watched in a long time. God of death defeated by a bungie cord and a non-canonical ability to whistle the Tardis controls.
It is canonical that the Doctor can whistle to control the TARDIS, it was proved in the 10th and 12th Doctor’s eras. He wasn’t defeated by a bungee cord, he was defeated by being tricked back and letting his guard down because he was so blindly focussed on the mystery. It’s nowhere near lazy writing
@@NotAgnor I don’t know when he could have whistled to control the Tardis at 10. But for 12 I think you’re thinking about the episode The Return of Doctor Mysterio. He doesn’t whistle to control the Tardis, he whistles so that Nardole knows to move the Tardis to him.
Russel T Davies created an incredibly compelling mystery but I don’t think even he knew what to do with it. The directors and producers would have to bring Russell T Davies on set to explain the convoluted plot, only for him to confuse everyone further. So at the end of the day, they had no choice but to force last minute sloppy plot points to make it work.
Maybe Sutech was in the watch fob
Does this man have an original idea in his head? I thought you hated older fans and older Doctors Russell and so why are you constantly using ideas from Classic Who? To have Sutekh back with this weaker half Doctor isn’t a good idea. Peter Capaldi’s Doctor would have been better to meet Sutekh again but not Gatwa.
Are you okay?
RTD , how does it feel to know you have destroyed a much loved part of millions of peoples lives ?
No, Chris-C did that.
Sorry that was Chris Chibnall
Chibnall tripped it over RTD kicked it to death
@@orwellknew3408 Not even close, but then again, you spent 6 years whining about every episode ever that you wanted RTD back, and now he is you continue to whine.
So, no one is gonna take you seriously. 🤣
@@Brand-New-Adventures exactly
He can't write Doctor Who anymore.
Aaand congrats on an absolute trash season. I think the BBC just want to make this a show for kids, they're just not telling us.
You sir have ruined doctor who, what a hack
If you're SO against it, why continue to watch the videos?
@@Brand-New-Adventures I don't, this popped up so I commented while passing.
@@MoonlightgraemeDude, you realize people clicking your icon can the replies you've posted. Lol
Hahaha just seen a list of your comments. Baby girl you’re obsessed! Let it go xxx
@@Brand-New-Adventures Enjoy your shit doctor who, it will be cancelled after the next series 😂
When you have to big up your own writing, because you're scared nobody will watch after being once the saviour and now the destroyer of a beloved show.
One episode that was okay does not make up for low ratings and an overall poorly received shortened season. Cringe worthy show now, gone are the days I'd watch it "live" then watch several times more on iPlayer waiting for the next episode. Tune in next week, death is defeated by a mother's love. oh boy!!! just have to wait and see....
Low ratings? where, it's averaging a combined 5-6 million for every episode this season, is in the most streamed shows on Disney plus, and most viewed in the UK, just because it's not topping everything doesn't=low ratings 😂
Dude, ratings and views have dropped across the board in everything. Lol.
@@TerenceCrawfordsLazyEye - no its not, not sure where you are getting your figures from
@@paulkelly-gt3ec the overnight viewing figures and the 7 days consolidated figures that have been released? where are YOU getting your figures from?
@@paulkelly-gt3ec You are aware the consolidated figures on 7 days are consistently over 4.5 million, topping out Chibnalls era and this isn't factoring in the 30 day periods or the unknown Disney number. The show has consistently been top 20 and even hit top 10 in the age of streaming. It's doing fine.