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@@idabwell I’m sorry but as it should be. If they really want to prevent endings like this the module for Louisiana Parole hearings should be a example for determining/ a board of a judge doctor and social worker hearing all sides and any opposition to ultimately vote if a pregnancy application is really in the best interest of the applicant and of society!
@@user-jy2kn7cg4g Я давно тут поглядываю канал, и данный случай вообще не редкость. Какие то психованные копы, готовы расстрелять человека даже с веткой от дерева, если тот намахнётся ей. Видать не зря они там все сидят на депрессантах. Что они по ногам или рукам не бьют, когда видят что у него нож, тоже ХЗ. Копы больше убивают наверно, чем гангстеры всякие. Да и к сами "героям" видео полно вопросов. Тоже одни неадекваты, не умеющие думать.
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think you're trying to point out what you believe to be a contradiction, and I wouldn't say that those two statements are contradictory. You can very easily NOT want to do something, but still do that thing because you felt like you should do it, or that you had to do it. It would have been contradictory if cop #2 had said "We DO want to shoot you" or if cop 1 said "You will NOT get shot."
Salt Lake went from super safe to super sketch seemingly overnight. I wonder what changed in the last decade or two... because it was clean and safe in the 90's/00's
I know right, I'm finding the more the cop says they don't want to shoot them, the more they can't control it. Like don't make me do this, cause I can't control it once I start I can't stop
@@bobbyberry5559 nice stuff Investigator bobbyberry5559, youve diagnosed a mentally ill individual by watching a minute long video of them on youtube... Incredible work!
911 dispatch: “Is the knife made out of stainless steel, or is it carbon steel? Can you identify all the properties it possesses on the periodic table?”
You can probably do stand up since you are a clear comedian with clever and original jokes! How amusing to make jokes on someone getting shot by cowardly-bloodthirsty-chimp minded males...
Nah, these guys were all amped up and wanted to make sure they each hit him at least 4 times so they can be the one to brag 'hey I shot that knife wielding guy more than you did, noob'.
The majority of time people have no idea how many rounds they shot. They believe it is much less than that actually did. Adrenaline and fear do weird things to the brain
@@um4668 Says who? I can tell the difference between a double tap, 3-5 round rapid fire or an entire 15+1 mag dump. I train this way, most people train this way, I'm sure a LEO does it too. Just pretend you're squeezing the trigger 16 times, 2 times, 3-5 times. There's a big difference in feel and time.
I think most of them ask these questions for their own curiosity tbh. Think about it like if you’re telling a friend you got some crazy drama going on they’re going to want to know all the details.
@@OfficialCrimeApex The length of the knife can be important information for officers responding to the scene. If a "knife" is a 2-inch utility blade, then it's easily concealable, and virtually anyone matching the description could be the suspect, but if it's say, a foot long or more, the suspect is likely carrying it. Not to mention that some people have knives, especially pocket knives with them lawfully and knowing the length can help differentiate at that level. Furthermore, under immense stress people can misremember details and forcing them to really think about something like the length of the knife might make them realize it was something else, although this is more commonly an issue with firearms and is part of why dispatchers ask for the color of the gun if a gun is involved. 911 call-takers are trained to, after starting the necessary help, get as much information as possible as quickly as possible. It's a pretty thankless job, so I can see why you'd rather complain on the internet than signing up to do it better, but you only perpetuate the cycle.
It has certainly helped inspire me to be as clear and concise as possible (as well as polite!) to dispatchers when I call. Don’t wanna end up sounding like a moron on this channel someday 😂
@RLTtizME At least let the guy drop first and maybe, just maybe he'd have dropped the knife so they could pile up and take him into custody....but I guess you just enjoy seeing cops waste ammo.
@@user-mw8to4ng9i Rewatch the video as many times as you need until you understand....🤦♂️3 shots would've been plentiful to put the guy out of the fight long enough to disarm him, but I guess they literally wanted to disarm him....from a distance 😉.
@@AtlasReburdenedYes there's a delay, it takes a moment to register what has happened and to stop firing. Couple seconds go by. You get a lot of shots off.
@@216trixie It takes ~0.15 seconds to commit to or out of an action. That's one shot. If you're seriously claiming that this guy takes multiple seconds to even remotely figure out what's happening in front of him, then your argument is that he's so completely and unimaginably inept that he shouldn't have a driver's license, much less a badge.
@@AtlasReburdened They can take about a second and a half once the person is firing to register that the threat is down and stop firing. Or longer if they don't see the perp but have tunnel vision on the gun sights. You really don't know.
@@redfordreddington8834 incorrect. July 26, 2023, Spacey was acquitted of all charges in relation to any sexual assault allegations. Stop spreading misinformation. Do better.
Because "already down suspects" have popped up with a gun and gotten rounds off before. If you think you have to shoot, make certain the recipient doesn't get back up.
Maybe. He seemed to think they wouldn't shoot if he pretended he would cut himself. He doesn't seem to understand "modern policing". The days of an hours long debate trying to talk down a psycho are GONE. It ain't like that no more.
20 year 911 dispatcher here: Not always. Here in NJ, the state doesn’t invest in 911 infrastructure. Our technology is limited depending on the agency you work for. I recommend checking out the video that comedian John Oliver put out about 911. Very informative and eye opening.
They have to confirm the address if possible. If it's a cell phone the address will be wherever it's registered to but that might not be where the cell phone is.
They also ask to verify that the person using the phone is the same as caller ID. They also ask questions to help build cases for court. If it turned out that guy defending himself with the bat, was actually the instigator of the violence, then the recording of him admitting to hitting the other guy would be played in court. My co-worker is a former 911 dispatcher and I asked her many of these questions.
My agency in Florida we can see number, (sometimes) caller ID, and the location of the 911 caller (based off cell towers, usually within 50-100ft of accuracy). That being said it's still important to verify name, number, and location (if possible) because this information can be wrong and inaccurate
As soon as they shot at him he fell to the ground, and he was no longer a threat, but they decided to empty both their magazines into him while he's already on the ground completely incapacitated...
This is 90% of call centers. They have specific questions they are supposed to ask. Kinda like when you're a child and go into a hospital and they ask you if you feel safe where you're living now..... It's a standardized set of sequences they go thru. Have you never listened to the questions they ask and go "why the hell did she ask that question?"
These officers had right to protect themselves but did they really need to make sure they emptied their clips. In my opinion that was overkill, he had a knife not a gun !
@@Sportsfan4life I could understand that train of thought if it was pronunciation. However, there is a fundamental difference between a clip and a magazine.
@@never_trust_a_hippie keep lickin' those boots. If a cop told you to turn around and drop your pants you'd be more than happy too do it. I'm sure you'd even grab your ankles with a big smile on your face!🤣
Not even close, bubba. I am from the Chicago area, but lived in SLC for 18 years. Salt Lake City is nothing in comparison. There isn't a place there I wouldn't walk around at night. I was more scared of being mobbed by LDS missionaries, lmao.
@@johndeeregreen4592they did say "Utah's version" and having lived in Cali, I agree. Also, WHEN was the last time you were in SLC? I won't go anywhere day or night alone
@@KidCorporate, even West Valley City is pretty sedate compared to your average city in the Midwest. Ya'll in Utah are just used to 147 years of Mormons. Oh wait, I forgot about Mountain Meadows.
Can someone explain to me what the law and police training says about shooting in situations like this, surely the last 5+ shots were unnecessary? I'm not saying they shouldn't have shot, but the dude did a full faceplant instantly but they kept shooting.
I agree, there were too many shots taken. We have to keep in mind that reportedly four officers discharged their weapons. I tried counting the number of shots with the video running on a slower speed and it appears to be 20+ shots fired. The brain is in "case man," fight/flight mode and it takes a second or two for it to register what it is seeing. So, you'll often see a couple of extra shots discharged. But, in this video, it does appear excessive, especially when the perp appeared to only have a knife and not a gun. As the saying goes, it's "awful, but lawful."
It stopped being justified when they continued to shoot a man with a knife who was incapacitated. The first three were justified. The rest are excessive force. Technically, it could be manslaughter. I support the police, but I don't support this.
For a man armed with a knife, at a distance and who fell to the ground after the first shot, it seems really excessive that they both continued to shoot the man on the ground. Also, they don’t seem to engage with the suspect to deescalate the situation which seems to be a mental health emergency. Excessive use of force and simplistic intervention with no considerations of mental health. Makes me wonder how much training officers receive to deescalate situations involving mental health.
For saying you didn't want to shoot him 20 times I find it kinda weird that the only thing that stopped you from continuing to fire was your mag running dry.. I'm starting to think these officers only say this because they know they have to sell it for the bodycam.. some of these cops are better actors then half the people in Hollywood these days...
Weird, I would expect them to be perfectly rational and calm in this life or death situation. I can’t believe humans get scared. Good thing you’re here to let them know from your couch.
@@johnbarnes7949 You're kidding, right? These are supposed to be highly trained officers, able to separate emotions from their actions, especially as they are ARMED. Not continue to shoot as they're dead, what kind of response is that.
@@xsessivmc yeah you must be highly trained in separating your emotions from your actions or maybe not because your only action is typing on a keyboard
The first two shots were enough to stop the guy. Why did they have to empty their guns into him while he was already down? If I did that defending my home, they'd charged me with murder.
Well if he started running he could easily cover 10 ft I'm serious by the way they actually tell you in bar fights you should be more than 10 ft away from a guy because even at 10 ft you can still get stabbed
Mostly thanks to the police own actions unfortunately. If they hadn't closed the distance with the suspect initially, if the hot head cop to the right didn't run up on the suspect screaming in his face, if they didn't antagonize him to escalate the situation, if even a single cop attempted to use their pepper spray/taser that they all seem to neglect, and once the first couple shots had downed the suspect, had the other officers not shot when it was unnecessary, no one would have needed to be shot in this situation. That logic applies to a lot of these police videos in the last few years.
They literally aren't. Marines would have been court martial'd for this, but civilian police are a "good ol' boys" club with an ocean of lawyers(that you pay for) behind them to ensure that they're not responsible for the consequenses of their actions.
They are, also remember these things. They are in a high stress situation, their adrenaline is high, tunnel vision is narrowed towards the suspect and they have their firearms drawn. In training they have minutes to handle it differently or re-act the training. They don’t for this, This is real life, not training, or a what if situation. Another thing, people forget how many rounds they put down range in these types of situations, yes training can help to an extent, but some things can go very differently than what is planned too. As for how many rounds they fired in your opinion as well as mine it was too many. Yet again, was I in that situation, No. Would I have handled it differently, I don’t know. What would I do differently from what they did? I don’t know? You, I, and others are able to make these choices without worry of it affecting us for the rest of ours lives, they aren’t. This is a video of what happened, not what could have happened or what should have happened. Think of that when you watch these videos.
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What is up with these totally unnecessary mag dumps???!!
These cops are like the ones in GTA when you have a 5 star wanted level…ridiculous
@@Av-vd3wk Not unnecessary, go watch the other videos where they take 2 or 3 a get back up..
No description? Anyone else not have one?
first officer be like "Might as well finish the mag"
Yeah that was absurd
Bro thought he was in call of duty.
The last 6 rounds was just to help the morgue out.. Less fluids..
just a theory, but maybe they knew it was suicidal and thought it would be pretty bad to be alive after all of that
Imagine if a civilian mag dumped someone threatening them like this, the civilian would 100% be charged with 2nd degree. Such BS
Confirm you want to watch? YES. 911 call operator? SKIP
Especially when the 911 call is HALF THE VIDEO!
Hahahahahaha same
😅@@PaulRybicki83
I confirm
Saaaame here
"How many rounds fired?"
"Yes."
How many times this same joke has been copied and pasted? 9999999999999x
@@Millerx1-rq1gpYou’re not upset are you??
How many homeless veterans?
Yes...
How many homeless veterans?
Yes...
@@kaecake9575 Stop spamming the same angsty comments and look up how to be a mature and functioning member of society. Thanks.
The first shot had him falling towards the ground. The following 17 shots, was to make sure he never got up again.
By design.
@@idabwell I’m sorry but as it should be. If they really want to prevent endings like this the module for Louisiana Parole hearings should be a example for determining/ a board of a judge doctor and social worker hearing all sides and any opposition to ultimately vote if a pregnancy application is really in the best interest of the applicant and of society!
i think that "paid administrative leave" may have something to do with it
@@jolly-rancher yep I can just see him with the wife and kids on a rollercoaster ride and hear the music from that summer 2008 Disneyland commercial!
Innocent until proven guilty… out the window.
I think these dudes assume they are only gonna get shot once.
Maybe the cops should say “Stop or you will get shot 15 times”
Overkill. Dude had a knife, not an AR
They watch too many police dramas where real life shit like this NEVER happens
This is called suicide by cops brother.
😂😂
Seriously 😢 that’s sad though! Seemed like all the cops 👮♂️ shot at this guy with the knife!🔪
They say the police are still shooting at him...
aw!
Каждый полицейский приехавший на место, всаживал по 4 пули, в тело преступника, так на всякий случай. В морг привезли кучу свинца и кусочки одежды😂
@@user-jy2kn7cg4g Я давно тут поглядываю канал, и данный случай вообще не редкость. Какие то психованные копы, готовы расстрелять человека даже с веткой от дерева, если тот намахнётся ей. Видать не зря они там все сидят на депрессантах.
Что они по ногам или рукам не бьют, когда видят что у него нож, тоже ХЗ. Копы больше убивают наверно, чем гангстеры всякие. Да и к сами "героям" видео полно вопросов. Тоже одни неадекваты, не умеющие думать.
"Stop, or you will get mag dumped by 5 dudes"
I forgot when you have a knife you’re supposed to get a foot rub and a smoothie
its ridiculous
if it was a black guy you wouldve been saying some diff🤡
Hahahaha 😂
Cop1: "We don't want to shoot you"
Cop2: "You will get shot"
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think you're trying to point out what you believe to be a contradiction, and I wouldn't say that those two statements are contradictory.
You can very easily NOT want to do something, but still do that thing because you felt like you should do it, or that you had to do it.
It would have been contradictory if cop #2 had said "We DO want to shoot you" or if cop 1 said "You will NOT get shot."
@@AMarmotwithaBranchofPlumsYou are mistaking
@@pureflan nope he is right and you are mistaken........YIKES
@@derek4177 the point is you all argue like morons, from your mom basement on youtube comments.
The first officer mag dumps the guy then has the audacity to say “cease fire” at the end. Like bro you are the only one shooting.
😂😂😂
Uhh no? You can clearly see it’s a different cop
Salt Lake went from super safe to super sketch seemingly overnight.
I wonder what changed in the last decade or two... because it was clean and safe in the 90's/00's
😂😂😂
Gotta cover ur own ass. Or maby he got that ptsd
"The following video contains graphic content that may be disturbing"
Yeah, that's why I clicked on it.
Yes CZcams I am aware of what is show on the channel so stop asking me if want to watch the video I clicked on. >_
yes everyone comes here to make jokes about someone's death. it's unhealthy
@@Manu_Lemoine_FR What do you think they did in the colosseum, it is a part of human nature
They're conditioning us to accept being told what to think.
@@Manu_Lemoine_FRyou are also here
Pretty much the same reason
911: is he white, black or Hispanic?
Caller : yea
Aren't we all??
@@alexcaruso8766 No, there's also for example Asians, Arabs, Indians, Inuits and a lot more...
Not funny... Respect ok? Affraiddd is Strong...
It sounded like the operator was saying "is he wet back Hispanic"
his a alien 👽
He fired ton of bullets for someone who nicely said he doesn't want to shoot him 🤣🤣
Yeah, I don’t think he meant it.
- Remember when I told you I didn't want to shoot you?
- Yeah?
- I lied
His wife cheated on him.
Well, sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do.
I know right, I'm finding the more the cop says they don't want to shoot them, the more they can't control it. Like don't make me do this, cause I can't control it once I start I can't stop
I don't think holding yourself hostage has any meaning.😂😂
That's how you know they're a sociopath. They assume everyone else thinks so highly of them, without even knowing their name.
@@bobbyberry5559 nice stuff Investigator bobbyberry5559, youve diagnosed a mentally ill individual by watching a minute long video of them on youtube... Incredible work!
@@bobbyberry5559you should be a doctor Bobby maybe a neurologist! 😂😂 don’t comment anymore
it worked in"blazing saddles".
@@DonaldMcNuGGeT literally because you told me not to. Gfys
He was looking for Unleaded, but all he got was leaded....
🤣
😄👍👍
Best comment! 😂
The 10% ethanol didn't work out well either.
😂
He's lucky officers don't carry 100 round magazines. Yikes.
96 in Chicago 😅😅😅
I know operators are required to gather information but the monumental stupidity of alot of operators is staggering
* a lot
Follower # 5
"How long is the knife" 🙄 A knife is a knife, and won't win in a gunfight against police officers
@@OfficialCrimeApex i was thinking the exact same thing, and was about to comment until i came across yours, what a stupid question to ask
911 dispatch: “Is the knife made out of stainless steel, or is it carbon steel? Can you identify all the properties it possesses on the periodic table?”
dude folded like a lawn chair
Yea, he's weak
My brain read that as "... clown chair."
Ngl dude probably got bullied for his last name in school and went out like it too
You can probably do stand up since you are a clear comedian with clever and original jokes! How amusing to make jokes on someone getting shot by cowardly-bloodthirsty-chimp minded males...
Bro did a flip
galaxy z flip
bender would be proud
After he saw the gas prices...
Getting into the central nervous system, I've seen so much shit like that...
😂😂😂😂
Just because the magazine holds 15 rounds, you don’t have to use them all.
Nah, these guys were all amped up and wanted to make sure they each hit him at least 4 times so they can be the one to brag 'hey I shot that knife wielding guy more than you did, noob'.
Yeah, no kidding.
The majority of time people have no idea how many rounds they shot. They believe it is much less than that actually did. Adrenaline and fear do weird things to the brain
@@um4668 Says who? I can tell the difference between a double tap, 3-5 round rapid fire or an entire 15+1 mag dump. I train this way, most people train this way, I'm sure a LEO does it too. Just pretend you're squeezing the trigger 16 times, 2 times, 3-5 times. There's a big difference in feel and time.
What a concise way of broadcasting how little you know.
The first cop was one of those teammates in call of duty that would run out of ammo before dying
@3:40 “I don’t care.”
And there, in a nutshell, is the problem.
Well, they definitely stopped the threat.
😂
Fr it looked like a firing squad
@@martinherrera599 That's exactly what happens when you threaten the police with a weapon.
He never did get that last cigarette.
These dispatchers are absolutely horrendous. It is rare to come across one that is competent. Asking the most unnecessary and random questions.
Follower # 3 in the comments 😅
"How long is the knife" 🙄 A knife is a knife, and won't win in a gunfight against police officers
You clowns would be asking the same 'duuumb' questions per your training, or you'll be searching for a new job in no time. Get over yourselves.
I think most of them ask these questions for their own curiosity tbh. Think about it like if you’re telling a friend you got some crazy drama going on they’re going to want to know all the details.
@@OfficialCrimeApex The length of the knife can be important information for officers responding to the scene. If a "knife" is a 2-inch utility blade, then it's easily concealable, and virtually anyone matching the description could be the suspect, but if it's say, a foot long or more, the suspect is likely carrying it. Not to mention that some people have knives, especially pocket knives with them lawfully and knowing the length can help differentiate at that level. Furthermore, under immense stress people can misremember details and forcing them to really think about something like the length of the knife might make them realize it was something else, although this is more commonly an issue with firearms and is part of why dispatchers ask for the color of the gun if a gun is involved. 911 call-takers are trained to, after starting the necessary help, get as much information as possible as quickly as possible. It's a pretty thankless job, so I can see why you'd rather complain on the internet than signing up to do it better, but you only perpetuate the cycle.
There really should be some kind of quote about cutlery being ill suited for a duel against firearms
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't bring a spork to a shootout?
Umm...don't use acute objects if you're obtuse?
That sounds like some cold-blooded Andrew Jackson stuff. People back in the 17th and 18th centuries probably said it a lot.
A knife in the bag is worth 15 in the mag?
Listening to the 911 calls is God awful i tell you
It has certainly helped inspire me to be as clear and concise as possible (as well as polite!) to dispatchers when I call. Don’t wanna end up sounding like a moron on this channel someday 😂
It's so frustrating listening to them, especially when they ask what the address is and the caller just keeps asking for them to send cops lol
Thanks Hank Hill
It's the bad attitude and passive aggressive antagonistic behavior of many of these employed and pseudo- professional 911 dispatchers.
She was very unprofessional & rude. I agree. It was like it was a headache for her. Not all 911 operators. However, I've listened to many that are.
Slight overkill perhaps?
And? Are they supposed to analyze the threat and then count the shots needed?
How does one overkill something?..either lethal force was justified or not
Slight? No, massive.
@RLTtizME At least let the guy drop first and maybe, just maybe he'd have dropped the knife so they could pile up and take him into custody....but I guess you just enjoy seeing cops waste ammo.
@@user-mw8to4ng9i Rewatch the video as many times as you need until you understand....🤦♂️3 shots would've been plentiful to put the guy out of the fight long enough to disarm him, but I guess they literally wanted to disarm him....from a distance 😉.
"Guys, we need to reevaluate what do we mean when we request less lethal..."
Why ask CZcams, of course I want to see this video!!! Stop asking!!!!
They need to cover their asses in case you're underage...
CZcamss way of saying "This one is gonna be good"
@@olimpzeus4115 in that case they should give me the option in the settings to validate my age, so I never have to be asked that stupid question again
@@TheHikingHoosier I couldn’t agree more, my fellow Indiana brethren
yes everyone comes here to make jokes about someone's death. it's unhealthy
The guy is falling and clearly not a threat anymore why they keep shooting at him?
Do they get a bonus for each bullet they fire?
Because that’s how the brain works. Your lack of education in this is amazing.
@@targgthewise2892😂😂No it isn't, civilian. The fuck are you talking about?
@@AtlasReburdenedYes there's a delay, it takes a moment to register what has happened and to stop firing. Couple seconds go by. You get a lot of shots off.
@@216trixie It takes ~0.15 seconds to commit to or out of an action. That's one shot. If you're seriously claiming that this guy takes multiple seconds to even remotely figure out what's happening in front of him, then your argument is that he's so completely and unimaginably inept that he shouldn't have a driver's license, much less a badge.
@@AtlasReburdened They can take about a second and a half once the person is firing to register that the threat is down and stop firing. Or longer if they don't see the perp but have tunnel vision on the gun sights. You really don't know.
This guy got absolutely *OBLITERATED.* ☠️ He had been given way too many warnings and found out the deadly way.
I mean he had a knife to his own neck. Not one officer de-escalated. Not one!
@@idabwell thing is, when a person has a visible deadly weapon, de-escalation is out the window.
Dude did a whole cartwheel 🤸😅
Cartwheel of Death
Monarch to the kingdom of the dead
That guy went down faster than kevin spacey at a boy scout rally.
Spacey is cleared from every allegation.
@Frans_gehaktbal he's not. He's a Hollywood Elite
@@Frans_gehaktbalno. He's guilty
@@redfordreddington8834 incorrect. July 26, 2023, Spacey was acquitted of all charges in relation to any sexual assault allegations. Stop spreading misinformation. Do better.
I wonder how long have you been waiting to use that line geeezz 😂😂😂
Incredible! How can You empty a mag in a person that fell efter the first shot??!!
Insane!
Jesus .they are shooting like they spotted Godzilla.😮
Definitely thought he said “it’s like a f*cking knife.”
That’s not very knife
That's what I heard too😂😂
I thought he said that too.
I dont get it.
You shot 1 or 2 rounds. He fell down. Why you have to empty your magazine on already down suspect?
less paperwork
Because "already down suspects" have popped up with a gun and gotten rounds off before. If you think you have to shoot, make certain the recipient doesn't get back up.
@@Narpets2112Thank you! At least SOMEONE gets it
@@Narpets2112only - this guy had a knife.. so…..
@GullysTJ That's the only weapon he was showing. Criminals NEVER conceal weapons though, right?
i love how the cop is like "we dont want to do this!" yet empties the whole mag lol
Compassion.
do or do not, there is no try
@@Ariel-om5fh😂
T zone shot flipped the light switch.Dude was dead before even at the ground
This was clearly suicide by cop.Stop acting like the perp was stupid.He knew exactly what he was doing.
Maybe. He seemed to think they wouldn't shoot if he pretended he would cut himself. He doesn't seem to understand "modern policing". The days of an hours long debate trying to talk down a psycho are GONE. It ain't like that no more.
He can understand what he's doing and still be stupid. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
It’s mental illness, not stupidity. Whether it was suicide or cop or not, this dude was clearly mentally ill.
Telling a suicidal person "If you do X I will help you commit suicide" seems to be slightly self defeating
Especially when they told him what they were doing("less-lethal shotgun!")
Like maybe use codes?
911 doesn't have caller ID?!
20 year 911 dispatcher here: Not always. Here in NJ, the state doesn’t invest in 911 infrastructure. Our technology is limited depending on the agency you work for. I recommend checking out the video that comedian John Oliver put out about 911. Very informative and eye opening.
They have to confirm the address if possible. If it's a cell phone the address will be wherever it's registered to but that might not be where the cell phone is.
They also ask to verify that the person using the phone is the same as caller ID. They also ask questions to help build cases for court. If it turned out that guy defending himself with the bat, was actually the instigator of the violence, then the recording of him admitting to hitting the other guy would be played in court. My co-worker is a former 911 dispatcher and I asked her many of these questions.
They do.... they just want confirmation as to not having a prank call
My agency in Florida we can see number, (sometimes) caller ID, and the location of the 911 caller (based off cell towers, usually within 50-100ft of accuracy). That being said it's still important to verify name, number, and location (if possible) because this information can be wrong and inaccurate
As soon as they shot at him he fell to the ground, and he was no longer a threat, but they decided to empty both their magazines into him while he's already on the ground completely incapacitated...
If this dispatcher wasn’t blowing the chief, she would’ve been fired for being an idiot
So many horrible dispatchers on the job.
Tapping away on keyboards from the 80s.
Sounds like you have used that personal service before.
This is 90% of call centers. They have specific questions they are supposed to ask. Kinda like when you're a child and go into a hospital and they ask you if you feel safe where you're living now..... It's a standardized set of sequences they go thru. Have you never listened to the questions they ask and go "why the hell did she ask that question?"
She was doing the job as she was trained, don't be sexist you prick.
Last time I was this early, the suspect was still alive.
lmao
GOAT comment 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha
Lights Out. Dude didn't feel a thing
What is the purpose of the at least 15 rounds after he was down?
Because methheads don't stay down.
So some rando on CZcams sitting on his couch, who has zero real experience, can criticize and feel important
@@user-mw8to4ng9iIt was overboard. Accept it, and get over it.
@@user-gt7ji9of9z No, it really wasn't. Accept it, get over it.
taxpayer savings
First guy didn't want to do a lot of paperwork
Mercy.
These officers had right to protect themselves but did they really need to make sure they emptied their clips. In my opinion that was overkill, he had a knife not a gun !
I don't see an M1 Garand in the video
i think that "paid administrative leave" may have something to do with it
“Magazine”
@@Dr_PeeWee magazine clip you say tomato I say tomato you say poop i say soda
@@Sportsfan4life I could understand that train of thought if it was pronunciation. However, there is a fundamental difference between a clip and a magazine.
Those guys thought the Zombie Apocalypse was coming at them.
That dude was done 20 rounds ago, y’all. What the fuck.
its sickening
@@rynolascavio3381 cry harder.
@@never_trust_a_hippie keep lickin' those boots. If a cop told you to turn around and drop your pants you'd be more than happy too do it. I'm sure you'd even grab your ankles with a big smile on your face!🤣
@@never_trust_a_hippie Can never trust you weirdos that get off to this kinda stuff. I hope you dont live near a school or anything.
As a Utahn i am obligated to inform everyone that Salt Lake is utahs version of LA or Chicago.
Not even close, bubba. I am from the Chicago area, but lived in SLC for 18 years. Salt Lake City is nothing in comparison. There isn't a place there I wouldn't walk around at night. I was more scared of being mobbed by LDS missionaries, lmao.
West Valley City: EXISTS
@@johndeeregreen4592they did say "Utah's version" and having lived in Cali, I agree. Also, WHEN was the last time you were in SLC? I won't go anywhere day or night alone
@@KidCorporate, even West Valley City is pretty sedate compared to your average city in the Midwest. Ya'll in Utah are just used to 147 years of Mormons. Oh wait, I forgot about Mountain Meadows.
But better gun laws
Those Mormon cops using the eff word isn’t going to go over well with their Bishop. 😮😮😮
Less than half of the Utah population is a member of the LDS church.
Temperature challenge complete.....
Can someone explain to me what the law and police training says about shooting in situations like this, surely the last 5+ shots were unnecessary?
I'm not saying they shouldn't have shot, but the dude did a full faceplant instantly but they kept shooting.
5?
@@jackc70 15+ w/e 😂 i just instantly stopped the video and commented, went back and noticed it was way more than 5.
They are bloodthirsty
@@OfficialCrimeApex How so?
I agree, there were too many shots taken. We have to keep in mind that reportedly four officers discharged their weapons. I tried counting the number of shots with the video running on a slower speed and it appears to be 20+ shots fired. The brain is in "case man," fight/flight mode and it takes a second or two for it to register what it is seeing. So, you'll often see a couple of extra shots discharged. But, in this video, it does appear excessive, especially when the perp appeared to only have a knife and not a gun. As the saying goes, it's "awful, but lawful."
Must have gotten kicked out of the D&D tournament
He rolled a 1 while officer dump mag rolled a nat 20....double damage
D and D ...?
Dungeons & Dragons
I mean, he already oopsed is Wisdom check several times...
@@mikeh.7499 Dungeons & Dragons; a nerd game
"Stay on the line with me and tell me if anything changes."
" Yes, something has changed. I just shat my pants."
Dumping the whole mag is wild 💀 you'd think after 1 or 2 shots bro would be out of commission on the ground
thinking is for weak people
Well, at least he was able to quit smoking.
Mag dump approved
its near fuel station whole place might goes kabooom
@@coldogno7No, buddy....just no.
@@coldogno7 😂 you watch too many movies LOL
@@bobbyberry5559 There are plenty of videos of fuel station fires, can happen from any random spark and exposed gasoline.
That mag dump yo
@3:40 “I don’t care.”
Wonder if the media will question how many times this man was shot even when he was already on the ground?
Naw they won't cause the suspect wasn't black.. Let's be honest
Wrong skin color for that, noob. He is not part of any "protected group".
@@TheDaveDeck Cry me a river Whitey 😂
Nope. He's white.
Being in the ground and getting shot are not even fucking related! Is there still a threat is the correct question. And yes, there was.
1000% justified, but I do hate when it goes from two or three shots to stop the dude to 30 shots-which undoubtedly kills them.
True, like he's already lying on the ground facing away from them, but they still continued shooting him
a 10:1 disingenuous ratio with your stated percentage. it's enthusiasms like this which cause strife in society
@@JustinCrediblename A 10:1, DiSiNgEnUoUs RaTiO wItH yOuR sTaTeD pErCeNtAgE... STFU
It stopped being justified when they continued to shoot a man with a knife who was incapacitated. The first three were justified. The rest are excessive force. Technically, it could be manslaughter. I support the police, but I don't support this.
It's like once you pop...
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Dude did a somersault as he was dying.
The faceplant at 4:08 is like a bad videogame rag doll.
“ the police are coming “ with the accent did it for me 😂😂😂
For a man armed with a knife, at a distance and who fell to the ground after the first shot, it seems really excessive that they both continued to shoot the man on the ground. Also, they don’t seem to engage with the suspect to deescalate the situation which seems to be a mental health emergency. Excessive use of force and simplistic intervention with no considerations of mental health. Makes me wonder how much training officers receive to deescalate situations involving mental health.
excuse me sir could you please put the knife down? look sir were just trying to help. nonono please stay over there sir! thank you.
Lol
36 year old Cameron was old enough to know better.
“Cease fire” coming from the cop that emptied his clip is wild ! 😭😭
It came from a different officer
Folded like some clothes in a laundry detergent commercial 😂
For saying you didn't want to shoot him 20 times I find it kinda weird that the only thing that stopped you from continuing to fire was your mag running dry.. I'm starting to think these officers only say this because they know they have to sell it for the bodycam.. some of these cops are better actors then half the people in Hollywood these days...
uh you know what ur talking about right
Please Stopp!! I dont want to have to empty my entire magazine into you!
Guy nearly done a forward roll when he got shot!!!
Why keep shooting tho? Is it a Rules of Engagement requirement or something?
Poor training and fear.
"You're right, my pistol IS a lot lighter when there's no rounds in it...."
Looks like he tried to dive into a magic portal but just missed it before it closed
Court date....
nope, not for this feller.
Perp was clearly down and the cop just kept shooting another 10 shots, displaying a lack of self control much?
Weird, I would expect them to be perfectly rational and calm in this life or death situation. I can’t believe humans get scared. Good thing you’re here to let them know from your couch.
@@johnbarnes7949 You're kidding, right? These are supposed to be highly trained officers, able to separate emotions from their actions, especially as they are ARMED. Not continue to shoot as they're dead, what kind of response is that.
@@xsessivmc Humans are still human. No matter how much you train them.
@@xsessivmc yeah you must be highly trained in separating your emotions from your actions or maybe not because your only action is typing on a keyboard
You kind of get the impression that the first shot was pretty much fatal, the way he immediately, limply, falls flat on his face.
The first two shots were enough to stop the guy. Why did they have to empty their guns into him while he was already down? If I did that defending my home, they'd charged me with murder.
Okay, I get it but...is a mag dump REALLY necessary against a guy 10 feet away from you with a knife?
and after he was already on the ground.
Well if he started running he could easily cover 10 ft I'm serious by the way they actually tell you in bar fights you should be more than 10 ft away from a guy because even at 10 ft you can still get stabbed
nope
@@ingamingpc1634 give me a break, you saw how he went down
yes
The days of an officer making it through his or her career without having to shoot…… are long gone.
Mostly thanks to the police own actions unfortunately. If they hadn't closed the distance with the suspect initially, if the hot head cop to the right didn't run up on the suspect screaming in his face, if they didn't antagonize him to escalate the situation, if even a single cop attempted to use their pepper spray/taser that they all seem to neglect, and once the first couple shots had downed the suspect, had the other officers not shot when it was unnecessary, no one would have needed to be shot in this situation. That logic applies to a lot of these police videos in the last few years.
Are Departments not trained to control their gunfire? Officer 5 would've been the only person who passed the exam lol
They literally aren't. Marines would have been court martial'd for this, but civilian police are a "good ol' boys" club with an ocean of lawyers(that you pay for) behind them to ensure that they're not responsible for the consequenses of their actions.
They are, also remember these things. They are in a high stress situation, their adrenaline is high, tunnel vision is narrowed towards the suspect and they have their firearms drawn.
In training they have minutes to handle it differently or re-act the training.
They don’t for this, This is real life, not training, or a what if situation.
Another thing, people forget how many rounds they put down range in these types of situations, yes training can help to an extent, but some things can go very differently than what is planned too.
As for how many rounds they fired in your opinion as well as mine it was too many.
Yet again, was I in that situation, No.
Would I have handled it differently, I don’t know.
What would I do differently from what they did? I don’t know?
You, I, and others are able to make these choices without worry of it affecting us for the rest of ours lives, they aren’t.
This is a video of what happened, not what could have happened or what should have happened. Think of that when you watch these videos.
Keep crying
i think that "paid administrative leave" may have something to do with it
Absolutely no need for that.
Legend has it that cop is still shooting the man’s corpse to this day
"How large is the knife?"....dumbest thing on 'tube so far today
True, "How long is the knife?" 🙄 A knife is a knife and won't win in a gunfight against police officers
That poor guys family. I cant imagine how hard it must be having to see a loved one walk around holding a knife the most soy way possible.
The guys at the bar will never let him live it down.
I doubt his family cared much. There's a reason people do this sort of thing
@@bjs301 "living" it down isn't possible for this fella
Removing a waste of space from the earth > $15 in ammo
Knife homie folded like a deck of pokemon cards.
Homeboy ragdolled just like a cod player lol
Another promising chef gunned downed by the police…. -ESPN2 2024
Poor guy. How frightening for that worker.
I despise those who use police to end their lives. Police are human beings
Damn that dude got ventilated hard
I just hear Queen nowadays when people do this with a knife. “Another one bites the dust and another one gone, and another one gone”
С радостью зарабатывают себе отпуск убийством...😢
Там где хватит одного выстрела в ногу, дают общий залп на всю обойму ...
“I paid for the whole mag, I’m gonna use the whole mag”
Hard to decide which is worse, the crime or the inquisition conducted by the 911 operator...
He was already on the ground and they shot him another 10 xs and he's only got a knife.
Такое ощущение что им не дают стрелять на тренировках и они тренируются на людях.
Ni a una persona con un AR-15 le dispararon tantas balas 😮.
they were shooting at the gas station too
You know when kids are out playing and they are having so much fun they don’t want to stop…
What is the phone number in case we get disconnected?? Haha
It’s not T-Mobile customer service 😮
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