Bet you didn’t know these HELLDIVERS 2 TIPS about the new SMG-72 Pummeler

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  • Bet you didn’t know these HELLDIVERS 2 TIPS for spreading maximum democracy with the new SMG-72 Pummeler
    You can pick it up for 50 medals on the second page of the polar patriots warbond
    This beauty's got a 45-round magazine, you get 3 mags from ground ammo and the full 7 when you hit a supply box
    it’s a one-handed weapon, so while you shoot with one hand you can carry an SSSD and the rest of your squad with the other.
    Comes with three fire modes - auto, semi, and burst - and due to its minimal recoil you'll be on target faster than you can say "sweet lady liberty.”
    But here's where the Pummeler really shines: its concussive rounds.
    These babies are like magic bullets. You hit almost any enemy with a few bullets and watch 'em stumble around like they've had one too many super beers.
    Hulks, Stalkers, Brood Commanders even Chargers will be dancin’ to your tune once you hit 'em with a burst of concussive rounds.
    But you gotta be doin damage for them to work!
    So make sure to aim for the enemies weak spot or pop their armor off first with somethin like an EAT
    Got any other tips for using the Pummeler? Leave ‘em in the comments for your fellow Helldivers
    #helldivers2 #gaming #videogames #pcgaming #ps5
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Komentáře • 264

  • @getfakt
    @getfakt  Před měsícem +72

    Got any other tips for using the Pummeler? Leave ‘em in the comments for your fellow Helldivers

    • @Proto_the_wickergen
      @Proto_the_wickergen Před měsícem +2

      since its a one handed you can quickly fire behind you while running the other way so if you are getting chased by bugs, robots, quickly shoot them to stagger them and keep running

    • @jacksondavis8940
      @jacksondavis8940 Před měsícem +4

      I love to use the ballistic shield against bots and this will improve my load out

    • @ElficGuy
      @ElficGuy Před měsícem +1

      ​@@jacksondavis8940 does it work tho? It didn't even stop all normal shots

    • @jacksondavis8940
      @jacksondavis8940 Před měsícem +1

      @@ElficGuy I have not been able to try it yet but I am going to try it when I am able(I am unable to play for the next 2 weeks) but I think it would work better than the two options we currently have.

    • @ElficGuy
      @ElficGuy Před měsícem

      @@jacksondavis8940 I meant the shield

  • @GGBlaster
    @GGBlaster Před měsícem +759

    Holy cow, I didn’t realize that expendable anti-tank is EAT as an acronym. Way to tell the enemy to “EAT THIS!”

    • @btfastinger
      @btfastinger Před měsícem +67

      I say EAT IT
      Since theyre called EAT 17

    • @johnborsil5396
      @johnborsil5396 Před měsícem +29

      Actually people forget that the "17 is meant to look like "it", so it it's actually EAT IT

    • @johnborsil5396
      @johnborsil5396 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@btfastingeryou're the only person I've encountered that says this beside me lol

    • @tanmanxiii
      @tanmanxiii Před měsícem

      I want a Super Beer!

    • @gonozal8_962
      @gonozal8_962 Před měsícem +3

      now read GR-8 (designation of the recoilless rifle) out loud

  • @johnsalamon4850
    @johnsalamon4850 Před měsícem +136

    "Carry one SSSD with one hand and the squad with the other" Im sold on it lol

    • @SamuelCorah
      @SamuelCorah Před 18 dny

      What is the sssd

    • @DragonKnightJin
      @DragonKnightJin Před 17 dny

      @@SamuelCorah Super Solid State Drive or something.
      It's a hard drive you carry from one location to another as an objective.

  • @MechMK1
    @MechMK1 Před měsícem +200

    You can use the ballistic shield while using the Pummeler! Especially useful against bots

    • @wildhunter939
      @wildhunter939 Před měsícem +27

      As a fellow ballistic shield user, I am so excited for another gun to use! Love the defender but I need something with a bit more whallop

    • @amirihawkins8526
      @amirihawkins8526 Před měsícem +3

      Anyone trying to run full ballistic shields on helldivers?

    • @SuperSparrow8173
      @SuperSparrow8173 Před měsícem +2

      Is ballistic shield any good compared to shield backpack?

    • @churchA.I
      @churchA.I Před měsícem +6

      ​@@SuperSparrow8173yes, the ballistic shield is basically invincible to small arms fire from the front, you can sit there, fire back and withstand incredible amounts of punishment, and heavy devastators are far easier to handle with it

    • @SuperSparrow8173
      @SuperSparrow8173 Před měsícem +1

      @@churchA.I Oh, I guess the heavy devastator thing is probably useful

  • @tatsumakijim
    @tatsumakijim Před měsícem +211

    I gotta get my eyes checked, I could have sworn the video showed me it costs 60 medals while claiming 50 medals.

    • @GGBlaster
      @GGBlaster Před měsícem +9

      Then I need my eyes checked too, cause I’m seeing the same thing 😂

    • @Xcobia
      @Xcobia Před měsícem

      Same

    • @Xcobia
      @Xcobia Před měsícem

      Nah I’m trippin

    • @dolanduk7946
      @dolanduk7946 Před měsícem +3

      Him: "what are your intentions with my daugher?"
      Me: "smg 72 PUMMELER!!!!"

    • @dgior_waf8500
      @dgior_waf8500 Před měsícem +2

      It’s actually 60 medals, he got it wrong

  • @madkaris7224
    @madkaris7224 Před měsícem +76

    Advice ? Enjoy it while it last...

    • @k_balu-8104
      @k_balu-8104 Před měsícem +11

      Know the balance (nerf) dev, its not gonna last 2 weeks....

    • @nateno8965
      @nateno8965 Před měsícem

      ​@@k_balu-8104Y'all Debbie Downer motherfukers, they've been in talks about stopping balances by top down and doing them bottom up, which means instead of starting with nerfing the best weapons, they work on fixing the worst weapons, making them good, and then they start fixing the balancing of the best."
      -Source, The CEO

    • @nateno8965
      @nateno8965 Před měsícem +16

      ​@@k_balu-8104Y'all Debbie Downer, they've been in talks about stopping balances by top down and doing them bottom up, which means instead of starting with nerfing the best weapons, they work on fixing the worst weapons, making them good, and then they start fixing the balancing of the best.
      -Source, the CEO

    • @Hanzered
      @Hanzered Před měsícem +3

      As in u think they'll nerf it? HOW could it be nerfed any further 🤣

    • @evaone4286
      @evaone4286 Před měsícem

      ​@@nateno8965 making fun of people with down syndrome. What a pos

  • @ChaosWolf3
    @ChaosWolf3 Před měsícem +36

    Being one handed, you can also fire behind you while moving away from foes without having to turn around like most weapons. This helps even heavily armored divers get some distance faster while also firing back. Mix in the stagger from this one and enemies really struggle to chase you.

  • @Checkpoint_King
    @Checkpoint_King Před měsícem +5

    Voice reminds me of the gta San Andreas ammunation commercials. “Buy an anti aircraft cannon actually used in our war against Australia!”

  • @dylan-zx3hh
    @dylan-zx3hh Před měsícem +10

    Man needs a side of lozenges with his breakfast every morning 😂😂😂

  • @samusrox
    @samusrox Před měsícem +6

    I want some super beers

  • @Bangcat
    @Bangcat Před měsícem +4

    They work great with ballistic shields vs bots. And that shield if you put it on your back with another weapon, it protects your back a bit while you run away. If you run without guarding with the shield in hand, it's protecting your left side. And though that shield will break vs turret rounds, you'll survive that one shot.
    PS, one handed weapons you dont really need to aim to shoot it behind you if you're being chased and running away. So just try not aiming exactly sometimes with some of these nice one handers with auto fire.

  • @retrohero5475
    @retrohero5475 Před měsícem +5

    Your delivery is impeccable and inspiring fellow diver o7, but please remember to drink some super water after all these takes. Your vocal chords will thank you

  • @rrat_dead_beat
    @rrat_dead_beat Před měsícem +5

    Super beer? What do you think we are?
    This is a super wine family

  • @der_peevmeister
    @der_peevmeister Před měsícem +2

    The aggressiveness of the voiceover made me want to spread managed democracy…

  • @rallywagon261
    @rallywagon261 Před měsícem +3

    The pummler has finally made the shield worth a damn. did pretty solid rocking it last night.

  • @smilesdekat5840
    @smilesdekat5840 Před měsícem +4

    This guy channels Sgt. Arch Dornan from Fallout so well

  • @ClassNCool
    @ClassNCool Před měsícem +11

    So if it's truly "one-handed" can it be used with a ballistic shield?
    Edit: tried it and it's pretty cool with the right approach

    • @Spl_it
      @Spl_it Před měsícem +5

      yes it can, every weapon with one handed in its traits list can be used with the shield or shot behind you without fully turning around

    • @ClassNCool
      @ClassNCool Před měsícem +1

      @@Spl_it oh wow that's really interesting then!!! Thank you!

  • @helohel5915
    @helohel5915 Před měsícem +1

    The pummeler is great to use with the ballistic shield. You absolutely destroy heavy and rocket devastators thanks to the stun and shield

  • @NGGaming-yv2xx
    @NGGaming-yv2xx Před měsícem +1

    i recommend you also bring the ballistic shield as you can just staredown heavy devastators and easily cap them

  • @ravensailiata3235
    @ravensailiata3235 Před 17 dny

    Use the ballistic shield with the pummeler, because you make heavy devastators LOOK LIKE COMPLETE CHUMPS.

  • @angelgodinez3441
    @angelgodinez3441 Před měsícem +5

    How does this smg stagger enemies more than a SLUG SHOTGUN?!?!?!?

    • @ethicalfoundation
      @ethicalfoundation Před měsícem +1

      They are concussion rounds that explode.

    • @gravemind883
      @gravemind883 Před měsícem

      Cause whoever made that decision is an idiot.
      I'm still actually salty about that. Rather than actually make your snipers good, you handicap the slug shotgun.
      A weapon that makes people in full body armor fly backwards off their feet.
      Genius, truly.

    • @somethingmoredecent
      @somethingmoredecent Před měsícem +3

      They haven't nerfed it yet

    • @Robert-fr9wl
      @Robert-fr9wl Před měsícem

      ​@ethicalfoundation yeah and this Full-fat-ass- cylinder shaped SLUG CAN ALSO STAGGER A PERSON'S BODY JUST AS WELL🤨
      DAMN YOU ALEXUS KRECHENKAV!!!!!😢

  • @tranliem5229
    @tranliem5229 Před měsícem +1

    Pumeller can actually shoot the leg of the charger if you abuse the vunerbility window after the charge

  • @Black_licorice_enjoyer
    @Black_licorice_enjoyer Před měsícem +1

    Dont forget that the balistic sheild can be used with it

  • @galerus3776
    @galerus3776 Před měsícem +1

    50 warbonds looks like 60 on the page. Dang inflation.

  • @pushed2civilized
    @pushed2civilized Před měsícem +2

    Literally "anti-stalker" gun 👍🏼

  • @AZusaYX
    @AZusaYX Před měsícem +30

    SSSD?
    YES
    SUPER (earth) SOLID STATE DRIVE

  • @beersforyearsTM
    @beersforyearsTM Před měsícem +1

    This guy must pop at least 1 blood vessel in his eye every video lol

  • @aircraftcarrierwo-class

    The Pummeler is great for getting breathing room when a swarm of Berserkers drops in. Probably the best unlock from Polar Patriots, honestly.

    • @potatopitoto3301
      @potatopitoto3301 Před 7 dny

      Was* sadly. It needs to be restored to how it was before the patch.

    • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
      @aircraftcarrierwo-class Před 7 dny

      @@potatopitoto3301 I dont recall any changes to it, but I also haven't used the Pummeler since then either.

  • @Frogger601
    @Frogger601 Před 25 dny

    Can be super useful for stunning both Rocket Devastators just before they fire (they reset the animation when stunned) and Nursing/Bile Spewers (they will do the full spray animation, but stop spraying when stunned)

  • @TheMadRatKing
    @TheMadRatKing Před měsícem

    Im actually a big fan of this new smg, it works wondwrs against the bots since the concussive force stuns just about everything under a hulk no matter where you hit them, lets you be super safe taking on hordes of em trying to gun you down with sheer numbers

  • @CarsWithClassy
    @CarsWithClassy Před měsícem +2

    Pummeler is the best automatic gun in the game imo

  • @DeviousDdino
    @DeviousDdino Před 13 dny

    “Super beers” 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @NoVideolnput
    @NoVideolnput Před měsícem +1

    Pummler seems like its the obly warbond weapon worth a damn

  • @DevilsandDragonsDaD
    @DevilsandDragonsDaD Před 19 dny

    I've had that done for a while now and I usually thought it sucked I guess I just never noticed how the concussive rounds work

  • @LimRadi
    @LimRadi Před měsícem +2

    Ugh sir what the art was when you said "Sweet lady liberty"
    I'm think i need to report to the democracy officer right now

  • @Noxspecific7
    @Noxspecific7 Před měsícem

    The ballistic shield is a perfect support pack that allows you to push forward while your teammates take pot shots around you
    - ballistic shield
    -pummeler
    -stun grenades
    - nade pistol
    -AMR

  • @sammylazydragon
    @sammylazydragon Před měsícem

    To more easily take advantage of the pummelers' rounds, carry impact grenades to blow off enemy armor. If you hit medium-sized enemies such as standard devistators in the legs to trip them up!
    Also, carrying impact 'nades will help take advantage of the stun inflicted by doing a quick one two combo. Stunning the enemy first by hitting them with a few pummeler shots before using the impact grenade for devastating damage! Aim for the head to deal the most damage on any type of devastator if your rounds don't kill them first!
    Goodluck helldivers!

  • @Agent_Eli
    @Agent_Eli Před měsícem

    Great pairing with the ballistic shield. Lay down the damage while basically ignoring all of theirs

  • @Gdsryrox
    @Gdsryrox Před měsícem

    Much better then the liberator conclusive which either makes them jolt around all over the place or not react

  • @sigusmundcomibra5788
    @sigusmundcomibra5788 Před 24 dny

    🗿Now I must find Sweet lady liberty for some freedom CAKE

  • @BRUNOR25511
    @BRUNOR25511 Před měsícem

    This one's definitively liberating

  • @Crusadiia_
    @Crusadiia_ Před 22 dny

    Because it's one handed, I pair it with the Balistics Shield pack against the bots so I can fight and defend. After I stun them, I swap to the Anti Material Rifle to finish them off

  • @RikuTheSillyGuy25
    @RikuTheSillyGuy25 Před měsícem

    Oooooh I did not know this was one hand. Maybe gonna need to pick this up 🤔

  • @fleegaleegalagabaws2368
    @fleegaleegalagabaws2368 Před měsícem

    I've been using the defender since day one because I cant afford any war bonds yet so I will say the smgs go really well with the light armor since you can jog and shoot behind your back, 2 handed weapons require you to turn around and walk backwards. Getting swarmed is a breeze to get out of, and chases get way easier with one handed. The concussive sounds like itll be very useful to this technique

  • @ArkhonXIX
    @ArkhonXIX Před měsícem

    Tried the pummeler against bugs and it’s pretty damn awesome. I’ve been addicted to using medium pen guns like the dominator and adjudicator but the stun more than makes up for the light armor pen. S tier in my opinion

  • @sarge-rf8mq
    @sarge-rf8mq Před měsícem

    Omg super beers this is now lore I need some sort of art of super beer Im picturing the metal bottle.like the tall boy aluminum buds.

  • @-fidget-1548
    @-fidget-1548 Před měsícem

    Talk about the sticky thermite grenade it melts tanks in only three nades and is devastating in a high grenade capacity armor

  • @otterdestroyer3774
    @otterdestroyer3774 Před měsícem

    So it's concussive! That's the kicker, I was wondering what was different about it

  • @maybeiamepic2263
    @maybeiamepic2263 Před 20 dny +1

    BRASCH TACTICS!

  • @halfblood_drag0n
    @halfblood_drag0n Před měsícem

    Hmm, I’m gonna have to buy the warning just for that so I can actually shoot something while running sssds cross map by myself

  • @slyllamademon2652
    @slyllamademon2652 Před měsícem

    You can also use the ballistic shield with this. I’d say quasar cannon, the shield, and this would be a good setup.

  • @sXMrSnapzZ
    @sXMrSnapzZ Před měsícem

    Pummeler + Ballistic shield + Heavy armour + your favourite non backpack support weapon = the ultimate Juggernaught build

    • @wildhunter939
      @wildhunter939 Před měsícem

      I find the arc thrower works well in this setup, ideally with the shield you are towed the front of your team so it decreases the risk of friendly fire. That and the arc thrower staggers and kills a lot of the stuff the shield can’t deal with (melee and rockets)

    • @sXMrSnapzZ
      @sXMrSnapzZ Před měsícem

      @wildhunter939 I run the HMG solely for rule of cool (also super powerful when you get the hang of it)

  • @paumolinet4834
    @paumolinet4834 Před měsícem

    This is what the liberator concussive should have been

  • @ThatCampingOwl
    @ThatCampingOwl Před měsícem

    Ballistic shield + Pummeler and a Grenade Launcher for the big enemy clusters or devastators + the new deagle sidearm... baby is it fun 👍

  • @StarChaser027
    @StarChaser027 Před měsícem

    Imagine being able to carry this and the Defender at the same time or even first and secondary

  • @nicolafinco3476
    @nicolafinco3476 Před měsícem

    Pummeler + ballistic shield + heavy armor = GOAT on bots.
    One guy rocking this set up (me) can stall an entire company of bots, devastators ecc. wile the others clear everything with ease

  • @Akatsukimember6
    @Akatsukimember6 Před 19 dny

    Most of you know this, but for the ones who don’t: If you pair the pummeler with the ballistic shield, stun grenades and the grenade pistol you’ll have a good time fighting bots

  • @Salaundre
    @Salaundre Před měsícem

    Works great with ballistic shield.

  • @Sansmemelordover
    @Sansmemelordover Před měsícem

    I love this gun. I use it best with the ballistic shield to absolutely dominate over the Heavy Devisators.

  • @Wonback
    @Wonback Před měsícem

    When smgs are better than actual assault rifles

  • @NorsWolf
    @NorsWolf Před měsícem

    Now I need to see a Brawndo tie in to Helldivers...

  • @buttersdagod681
    @buttersdagod681 Před měsícem

    On bots I run the pumbler, shield, qazar, 380 and the 120 with heavy armor it's my new favorite loadout

  • @jbblades2835
    @jbblades2835 Před měsícem +10

    The sustained rate of fire being low as it is makes it great for hoards and keeping waves of enemies in one place. Like gas or minefeilds.

  • @RebelFNOS
    @RebelFNOS Před měsícem

    People have been talking shit on this gun not realizing that because its an smg you can one hand it, the slowed firerate means it's steady while firing and it won't burn through ammo and those concussive rounds will shred groups

  • @rossalbane7743
    @rossalbane7743 Před měsícem

    I think the ballistic shield could use one more buff, maybe a direction based damage reduction for melee just so it could be more than a wasted slot vs bugs

  • @CareerGamer2012
    @CareerGamer2012 Před měsícem

    It's nice to have something good to make them stalkers f-off. (The conclusive liberator doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned)

  • @Rkmer28
    @Rkmer28 Před měsícem

    My favorite part is it locks spewers down. I'll try to enjoy it as much as possible before it gets nerfed into the ground.

  • @alexlevesconte7216
    @alexlevesconte7216 Před měsícem

    All these weapons to choose from and I still end up using the medium armour pen scout rifle.

  • @TheNinjaSandwichGaming
    @TheNinjaSandwichGaming Před měsícem

    The Breaker does more damage when set to Semi than Auto and is slightly more accurate. It's great for ripping bots off the back of those walkers.

  • @thomascampbell4535
    @thomascampbell4535 Před měsícem

    Use the Ballistic Shield it’s totally good I swear

  • @qizarahmed14
    @qizarahmed14 Před měsícem +1

    new news they make it so you can't download hell divers2 in the countries where you can't use a play station account

  • @danlucas213
    @danlucas213 Před měsícem

    I want a super beer

  • @MrYdoineedthis
    @MrYdoineedthis Před měsícem +2

    mmm Concussion cc

  • @kaifire1987
    @kaifire1987 Před měsícem

    Man i wish i could play helldivers in the first place.

  • @joshuademeria903
    @joshuademeria903 Před měsícem

    Anyone else getting this odd glitch where if you hold the fire trigger while reloading as he finishes the animation he’ll toss out the mag and waste an entire clip and have to reload all over again

  • @misterezioauditore
    @misterezioauditore Před měsícem

    Use a ballistic shield while battling bots, its heavy armor, and works as mobile cover for everything but rockets, tank blasts, and flamethrowers.

  • @seanpasquarella4149
    @seanpasquarella4149 Před měsícem

    Works great with a ballistic shield

  • @captaintuna1323
    @captaintuna1323 Před měsícem

    Thr bulletproof shield works too

  • @angryfoxzd5233
    @angryfoxzd5233 Před měsícem

    I use it with the ballistic shield.

  • @ii_uw
    @ii_uw Před 22 dny

    if only I could buy the game in the 170+ countries

  • @gaster42
    @gaster42 Před měsícem

    Become tank, pick up bolustics shield.

  • @damiencrossley7497
    @damiencrossley7497 Před měsícem

    Due to lack of funds I can't join the main war BUT I got original Helldivers!

  • @zeldacrafter4578
    @zeldacrafter4578 Před měsícem

    Ooo shield combo

  • @Kratos106
    @Kratos106 Před měsícem

    1st of all, these tips are great and damn entertaining to watch. This voice which is made out of pure testosterone reminds me of Mr. Torque from Borderlands. DO YOU SEE THIS OCEAN??? BLOW IT UP!!!!!
    Love it

  • @flavioxaviernavarroguerra8619

    You sound like a young Version of the TF2 soldier

  • @chandlermccoy1813
    @chandlermccoy1813 Před měsícem

    They shpuld have goven the tenderizer the same stagger ability. That wouldn't make it that good, but would have carved out a niche for it at least

  • @Bradderz407
    @Bradderz407 Před měsícem

    Looks exactly like the other smg

  • @Darth1133
    @Darth1133 Před měsícem

    ballistic shield backpack

  • @garathminis5108
    @garathminis5108 Před měsícem

    You can dance around enemies as the pummeler does not need aiming to fire and hit.
    This means you csn run and gun all the time. Hip fire Democracy while running around.
    Hunters, Stalkers and any fast bugs will be hard pressed to catch up.
    Equip Senator to deal with Hive Guard and Brood Commsnders.

  • @Elkum4183
    @Elkum4183 Před měsícem

    Balistic shield is good

  • @DoritoBagWilkins
    @DoritoBagWilkins Před měsícem

    At this point it's not even a question of *if* they'll nerf it anymore. If it's good and it's new, they *will* nerf it into the Shadow Realm.

  • @taylorman666
    @taylorman666 Před měsícem

    A combo I have seen is Pummeler + Ballistic shield for bots

  • @user-wy3gc1pl4c
    @user-wy3gc1pl4c Před měsícem +1

    60 MEDALS YOU FOOL

  • @Starlight-yk7pk
    @Starlight-yk7pk Před měsícem

    That warbond didn't show up yet
    Might had and I'm just now seeing it but ha

  • @_You_Are_Not_Him_
    @_You_Are_Not_Him_ Před měsícem

    Mean while players are calling for buffs when this is the best smg we got and im bullying stalkers and hulks with it. 😂

  • @flounder2760
    @flounder2760 Před měsícem

    People were pitching. About it not staggering all the time and Iwas watching their video and saw that it was only staggering on dmg lol.

  • @boom426nk
    @boom426nk Před měsícem

    Use the freedom police shield

  • @StarChaser027
    @StarChaser027 Před měsícem

    ...and the rest of your squad! 😜

  • @Exozealots
    @Exozealots Před měsícem

    Works well with balstic Sheild's along with armor, it useful agasint bots that shoots lasers on you. Not useful against rocket deveastors, but surprisingly can block the striders lower guns. You will still die, but still good agaisnt all types of enemy. Combine with railgun, EAT, QC, Anti Rifle, or even Laser Cannon. Down side it will cost you offense stratgam, but for utility and damage, makes you a good tank and focus fire bait. Just don't challenge a group of rocket deveastors, or hulks with rockets, or Cannons. Not useful agaisnt bugs if your using the sheild, sincr meele can still hurt you. Just take sheilds or more offense stratagem.

    • @crazyfrogit04
      @crazyfrogit04 Před měsícem

      Just remember that while durable, blocking higher caliber or explosive rounds will eventually leave you shieldless. So pay attention to your shield durability Helldiver!

  • @nickbalog940
    @nickbalog940 Před měsícem

    We never learn our lesson... the devs are just waiting to nerf it bc we actually enjoy using it..