The Steam Deck Is The New King Of Hand-Held Emulation! Amazingly Fast EMU Performance

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • In this video we see just how well the all-new Valve STeam deck handled some of our favorite emulators like Dreamcast using Redream, PSP with PPSSPP, Sega Saturn ANd PS1 Using RetroArch, GC using with the dolphin EMulator, Orginal Xbox using CXBX Reloaded, PS2 with PCSX2 and PS3 using RPCS3! This new X86 Ryzen powered handheld known as the STeam Deck makes for an awesome EMulation Machine!
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    00:00-Intro
    00:15 - Lunchbox Big Box On The Steam Deck
    01:30-Overview
    01:47-Dreamcast Redream Steam Deck Test
    02:21-Sega Saturn Steam Deck Retroarch
    02:37-PS1 RetroArch Steam Deck
    03:03-PSP PPSSPP Emulator Steam Deck
    04:16-Orginal Xbox Emulation CXBX Steam Deck
    05:06-PS2 On The Steam Deck PCSX2
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Komentáře • 910

  • @jamesb.6177
    @jamesb.6177 Před 2 lety +433

    “Let’s start out light with Dreamcast.”
    How far we’ve come.

    • @SheddysGaming
      @SheddysGaming Před 2 lety +8

      Exactly. I had the same thought

    • @Ifalvarado
      @Ifalvarado Před 2 lety +22

      I remember more than 25 years ago when I got the Japanese Dreamcast.....the graphics....now you can play it on a tablet

    • @MADMANGAM3R
      @MADMANGAM3R Před 2 lety

      Where’s Yuzu

    • @TravisVenaturaLaneve
      @TravisVenaturaLaneve Před 2 lety +11

      @@MADMANGAM3R Nintendo would probably take the video down.

    • @bert949
      @bert949 Před 2 lety +2

      Especially with it being a handheld. It's just a beautiful thing.

  • @MattTalkTech
    @MattTalkTech Před 2 lety +223

    The video I have been waiting for 7 months! Well worth the wait!!! Also cant wait for the SteamDeck OS version as well!

  • @bernz23
    @bernz23 Před 2 lety +326

    My favorite part of the steam deck is that it's a computer as well. You can plug it into your tv and use a bluetooth controller, and play these games on the big screen and then take it mobile as well, just like the Nintendo switch. I wonder if you're able to use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse at the same time?

    • @zaidlacksalastname4905
      @zaidlacksalastname4905 Před 2 lety +42

      You probably could, most old laptops from 2015 could easily handle 4 Bluetooth signals.

    • @butcher2033
      @butcher2033 Před 2 lety +15

      you can

    • @emperorfaiz
      @emperorfaiz Před 2 lety +20

      You can because the SteamOS is basically a Linux distro. There is the desktop version that you can use Steam Deck like a regular PC.

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 Před 2 lety +3

      You can

    • @macncheez1212
      @macncheez1212 Před 2 lety +10

      Probably could even run AutoCAD on it or FreeCAD with a mouse.

  • @sasakanjuh7660
    @sasakanjuh7660 Před 2 lety +13

    Thanks for testing Shadow of Colossus! I remember trying to emulate that game on my fully specced pc back in the days, and being barely able to move.. Granted, that was probably more that 10 year ago, but seeing it run relatively smoothly on a handheld is still damn impressive!! :)

  • @liamness
    @liamness Před 2 lety +411

    I suspect some of these emulators would run better in SteamOS, as they have native Linux versions, and it seems there are performance issues with the Deck generally in Windows.

    • @hw6664
      @hw6664 Před 2 lety +20

      I agree. I've seen that PCSX2 and RPCS3 have versions available. Are there any emulators that don't have a Linux version?

    • @prismflux5129
      @prismflux5129 Před 2 lety +17

      @@hw6664 i think cemu

    • @Henk717
      @Henk717 Před 2 lety +48

      Also keep in mind this is AMD, while most stuff was tested on Vulkan AMD has bad OpenGL drivers. However, on Linux you don't use AMD's OpenGL drivers but the valve sponsored Mesa drivers which do OpenGL very well.
      So if anything runs on OpenGL expect the Linux version to be better. For Vulkan i don't think its a big difference but Windows not hogging the CPU should still help and of course the Mesa drivers are still more mature.

    • @Lu-Die-MilchQ
      @Lu-Die-MilchQ Před 2 lety +6

      @@prismflux5129 Yep Cemu has none(but they are working on one) and the Xbox 360 Emulator Xenia has no Linux version yet.

    • @AQDuck
      @AQDuck Před 2 lety +8

      @@hw6664 Cemu and Xenia.
      Cemu runs great through WINE/Proton and a Linux version is being developed.

  • @YourComputerBlog
    @YourComputerBlog Před 2 lety +89

    For everyone interested: Steam offers Retroarch within SteamOs, you dont have to fiddle around with Windows and can have more power through natively running the emulators

  • @socialistprofessor3206

    Ordering mine today since I was waiting for your thoughts. Thank you for the tests!

  • @__dudewitagun__4607
    @__dudewitagun__4607 Před 2 lety

    This is awesome. I really appreciate your videos, especially this one with all that it entails.

  • @carsandzombies7606
    @carsandzombies7606 Před 2 lety +11

    This thing is actually more powerful than I initially thought… I am actually quite impressed.

  • @FamousWolfe
    @FamousWolfe Před 2 lety +8

    Thanks for doing Demon’s Souls, ETA! I can’t get my hands on a PS5 so I was hoping emulating PS3 on the Steam Deck might be a viable option (and you confirmed it is indeed). Looking forward to your SteamOS emulation video!

    • @Freelancer837
      @Freelancer837 Před 2 lety +1

      The PS3 version honestly is the better of the two anyways, so that's a good thing as well. However, we know from teh Nvidia leaks still that Demon Souls is one of Sony's games they've been looking to put on PC anyways

  • @thesuperzfamilyvlog6607
    @thesuperzfamilyvlog6607 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video and the more i see about the steam deck the more i want one.

  • @r8bior
    @r8bior Před 2 lety +2

    BTW, i love the animated wallpapers 😍

  • @jobiej7416
    @jobiej7416 Před 2 lety +3

    This thing is a must have. Especially for retro gaming.

  • @mattdhargett
    @mattdhargett Před 2 lety +10

    It would be great if you could include input latency measurements when comparing emulator performance. On one of these Ryzen-based handhelds, you could get 4X scaling at 60fps, but with double the input latency for some weird reason.

  • @piplup10203854
    @piplup10203854 Před 2 lety +1

    This is what I was looking for! I cannot wait for Emulation with Steam deck :D time to visit my favorite retro titles on the go 😌

  • @datphot
    @datphot Před 2 lety

    Extremely exciting to see. I can't wait to get my hands on one.

  • @TheRealJPhillips
    @TheRealJPhillips Před 2 lety +6

    Probably the main reason I want one of these

  • @HiTechLoLife
    @HiTechLoLife Před 2 lety +59

    Officially crowned the King of Handhelds.
    But wouldn't running these emulators through SteamOS be a better option than through Windows given there's apparently some performance left on the table?

    • @blablasigh187
      @blablasigh187 Před 2 lety +13

      He mentioned in the video that SteamOS emulation will be reviewed shortly. A lot of people were asking about Windows performance, so he decided to push this video out 1st.

    • @shadowtheimpure
      @shadowtheimpure Před 2 lety +2

      He did the Windows testing now, while he still had Windows installed on the Deck. He fully intends to do SteamOS testing as well but that requires reimaging the Steam Deck. Why do that twice if you don't have to?

    • @elbarriotrucker
      @elbarriotrucker Před 2 lety +1

      Love you channel

  • @sleepinglionarchives
    @sleepinglionarchives Před 2 lety +1

    Glad to hear it! I have a Q1 pre-order in, but no invite to finalize the purchase yet

  • @gilramos5767
    @gilramos5767 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for showing Launchbox! I will definitely use that as my main Windows frontend if they get dual booting working.

  • @lordsprite6425
    @lordsprite6425 Před 2 lety +27

    Eagerly looking for something like this video but on SteamOS (I know you mentioned it also).
    I want to create emulation libraries on SD cards and swap them loosely by console generations. I see you actually voiced a video over on
    Unbroken Software, LLC CZcams page going over Experimental Linux support for Launch Box / Big Box back in 2020 - has this been improved since? (I don't see any native linux version of this in any case.)

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 Před 2 lety +1

      Last time I checked (probably 2 months ago) it was running with Wine and videos didn't work because lf codec issues. So no.

  • @Khalmoon
    @Khalmoon Před 2 lety +26

    I’d love to see how this interacts with the Nex Dock if possible that would be insane

    • @Droidsky17
      @Droidsky17 Před 2 lety +11

      pullin up to your business meeting equipped with what looks like a laptop, and a game console. You just plop down at your spot at the conference table, pull out a USB C dock, and connect your bulky handheld PC to your keyboard that has a screen. You look up to see all of your coworkers and managers staring at you, confusion on their faces, as you turn on both devices. You are greeted by the 3rd true ending to chapter 5 of "Refrigerator Dating Sim Visual Novel 2: Electric Boogaloo XXX", where you finally get to 3rd base with your the old fridge in the garage. Your coworkers are horrified, and you are fired.

    • @TarikA
      @TarikA Před 2 lety

      I wanna see this too!

    • @thatguyalex2835
      @thatguyalex2835 Před 2 lety

      @@Droidsky17 Comedy gold right here. ツ

  • @moonlambo5229
    @moonlambo5229 Před 2 lety

    Awesome video man! Seriously thinking of getting the Steam Deck.

  • @chrislamerican2989
    @chrislamerican2989 Před 2 lety

    hey ETA really cool backdrop with the Turtles party wagon on the desk
    ps great video

  • @madaction9373
    @madaction9373 Před 2 lety +12

    So jealous! Still waiting for mine. So glad it is living up to the hype.

    • @Dnizzle25
      @Dnizzle25 Před 2 lety +1

      Nah no need to be jealous just be patient and humble

    • @denizylmaz8131
      @denizylmaz8131 Před 2 lety +5

      Tip for when you get your deck:
      Do not (and I mean it) install Windows. The few games that you wouldnt be able to play arent worth the many flaws of windows on the deck.
      Windows has: An almost unusable UI for touchscreen devices, No proper sleep support for the deck. Worse performance......
      Please use SteamOS. It was made for the deck.

    • @Dnizzle25
      @Dnizzle25 Před 2 lety +1

      @@denizylmaz8131 NOTED*** (for myself)

    • @madaction9373
      @madaction9373 Před 2 lety

      @@Dnizzle25 True!

    • @TontonGahu
      @TontonGahu Před 2 lety

      I got mine and man do I love playing FFXV on the go

  • @mauryj.3415
    @mauryj.3415 Před 2 lety +23

    I'm still in awe that this thing could even play games natively at 4k

    • @TBMartin
      @TBMartin Před 2 lety +3

      Its not that hard. Even my OneXPlayer can do that

    • @mauryj.3415
      @mauryj.3415 Před 2 lety +5

      @@TBMartin oneXplayer cost 3 times the price thou

    • @TBMartin
      @TBMartin Před 2 lety +4

      @@mauryj.3415 And? I'm just pointing out its not that hard. These games in 4k will be set to very low gfx setting mind you so there really is no point.

    • @Broken4forever
      @Broken4forever Před 2 lety

      Not with great settings unfortunately lags like crazy lol

    • @xyz3702
      @xyz3702 Před 2 lety

      @@TBMartin you can run on 4k monitor.

  • @ionamygdalon2263
    @ionamygdalon2263 Před 2 lety

    Awesome man 👍👍 Many, many thanks 😃

  • @ZuzuBold
    @ZuzuBold Před 2 lety

    Welp, you just made me get a reservation for the deck. You're pretty much the ones (or maybe the only one yet) to get the benchmarks and showcase of emulation on the deck. I can only imagine it'll get better with the optimization on the deck and the emulators to enhance it a bit more.

  • @dav3yb
    @dav3yb Před 2 lety +14

    I'd like to see how something like batocera boots and runs from the SD card. Seen that as a suggestion to keep from installing too much to the main drive, especially if you have one of the lower capacity versions.

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 Před 2 lety +56

    The Steam Deck actually makes the Odin Pro look overpriced since it's only $100 more and Odin only has Snap845 from 4 years ago. That's not powerful enough for GameCube from my experience owning a Pixel 3.

    • @FamousWolfe
      @FamousWolfe Před 2 lety +9

      Oh man, I would’ve totally sprung for an Ayn Odín Pro if I hadn’t already reserved a Steam Deck before the Odín hit IGG. But yeah, I agree, the Steam Deck is far superior in every regard

    • @red2
      @red2 Před 2 lety +1

      The Odion Pro runs 1080p, if it were running only 800p like the Steamdeck it would run better too.

    • @jeffsterc1657
      @jeffsterc1657 Před 2 lety +11

      @@red2 nope........ android cpu and ryzen cpu are very different thing

    • @destinyhero4795
      @destinyhero4795 Před 2 lety +3

      Its very different conditions and mind that steam deck is more power hungry compared to arm device

    • @jeffsterc1657
      @jeffsterc1657 Před 2 lety +3

      @@destinyhero4795 arm devices comes with average batteries that aren't suppose to be running with an active cooler your battery will drain faster than you can game

  • @noodles4773
    @noodles4773 Před 2 lety +1

    yes love the tmnt in the background, is that super 7 metal head ?

  • @yommy345
    @yommy345 Před 2 lety

    Nice Vid I hope its still here when my deck arrives.

  • @Watchandlearn91
    @Watchandlearn91 Před 2 lety +4

    Careful posting any videos with the YUZU emulator, Nintendo has been slapping those down right and left with their lawyers. Linus from LTT said recently that he was going to make a video where he dumps his games and runs them on the steam deck and dares Nintendo to give him a notice to take it down since they seem to be picking on smaller channels. Should be interesting.

  • @AllieRX
    @AllieRX Před 2 lety +17

    I noticed you didn't show any footage of Nintendo games...for obvious reasons. 😆

  • @Plasros
    @Plasros Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for SOTC!

  • @wiggecom
    @wiggecom Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing performance, and we're only in the early stages yet. It'll be interesting to see where we are in a hear or two. Fingers crossed that the teknoparrot-team Will do a somewhat optimized release, since it's a bit picky about gpus.

  • @robertassadygovas5196
    @robertassadygovas5196 Před 2 lety +5

    I am really interested in your animated wallpapers. Would you mind sharing about them?

  • @stormchasingk9
    @stormchasingk9 Před 2 lety +3

    I look forward to getting my Steam Deck in 2023, since that's about where the wait-list is. -sigh-

    • @Justin-xi6ue
      @Justin-xi6ue Před 2 lety

      Thanks to covid and manufacturers realizing they can get people to pre-order things over a year in advance, making everyone scramble to get in line and in turn they get more sales. I kinda want one too but the wait is so long. :| The only other gripe I have with it is the size and battery life, which is part of the reasons why I settled on the AYN Odin. If everything goes smoothly I’ll get it in 2 more months. But man the power of the Steam Deck is really great to see. If only the wait wasn’t so long.

    • @robertcastanpn288
      @robertcastanpn288 Před 2 lety

      @@Justin-xi6ue only put 5$ down to reserve a Deck then paid I'm in full once yours is done being made

  • @emin62bek
    @emin62bek Před 2 lety +1

    Can't wait to get mine

  • @vladventura1928
    @vladventura1928 Před 2 lety

    OMG JET SET RADIO FUTURE my sister and I love that game, super happy to see it run so good on the deck

  • @slashmaru
    @slashmaru Před 2 lety +3

    If you would only compare the performance on the emulation only, how does that compare to, say, running the game on the latest iPhone or Galaxy?
    I know iPad Pro can run everything at Max but as a portable gaming device, I can't tell how good this is in such a comparison

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz Před 2 lety

      Yeah true, even the iPad pro from 2 years ago can handle ps3 emulation at least this well. Idk about switch though

  • @EpicBigWhale
    @EpicBigWhale Před 2 lety +3

    I wish I could buy mine already :( Love this beast of a Micro AIO PC

  • @buddyfx7026
    @buddyfx7026 Před 2 lety +1

    That's all I've wanted was Vikings theme via Big Box on a handheld.. this looks killer

  • @soflass1293
    @soflass1293 Před 2 lety

    Hello! Thank you for making those video.
    One little thing when you find a game havng copyrighted music don't turn off the sound just go to the game settong and put only the music to 0 and keep the sound and SFX.

  • @SRC267
    @SRC267 Před 2 lety +6

    RPCS3 performs better than I expected. Also, I'm guessing those two emulators made by Niny would work well too. Shame you had to exclude them.

    • @bpcgos
      @bpcgos Před 2 lety

      Yeah Ryuji*x and Y*zu is the one I wish ETA Prime talking about .. Nintendo is very paranoid

    • @softwarelivre2389
      @softwarelivre2389 Před 2 lety

      Would be better had he used SteamOS instead of Windows...

  • @user-ct8my8rv9c
    @user-ct8my8rv9c Před 2 lety +3

    I remember getting a bunch of emulators working on my original PSP, then never playing any of them for some reason

    • @Nickbaldeagle02
      @Nickbaldeagle02 Před 2 lety +1

      You've missed out. I hacked a PSP and loaded it with emulators and ROMS. It was an awesome machine.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 Před 2 lety

      What? Emulator on actual closed source consoles ?

    • @Nickbaldeagle02
      @Nickbaldeagle02 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mrbobgamingmemes9558 yes. You can hack the PSP, Vita, 3DS and early revisions of the Nintendo Switch.

  • @Happycat188
    @Happycat188 Před 2 lety +1

    Really want to see the SteamOS vid soon! Emulation works really good in Linux, but I'm very hesitant using W10 on this device personally

  • @I4get42
    @I4get42 Před 2 lety +2

    Love that Turtle's Van. Mine lives in my kiddo's closet these days

  • @glennshoemake4200
    @glennshoemake4200 Před 2 lety +7

    Redream on Linux gives me some static artifacts that I can't figure out how to remove in the settings when playing games. Flycast standalone works good even with Vulcan, but not as good of a UI as Redream.

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 Před 2 lety +1

      Flycast is on Retroarch core library though. You could make it work properly with Emulationstation to look great on the deck.
      That version supports chd to save some space.

    • @glennshoemake4200
      @glennshoemake4200 Před 2 lety +1

      @@moister3727 Thanks for the reply, I did install Retroarch yesterday and tested flycast and both options work with CHDs but Retroarch has a slightly better gui.
      Hoping me get some step by step instructions for booting Batocera from sdcard or I may look into Steam Rom Manager over the weekend when I have more time.

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 Před 2 lety +1

      @@glennshoemake4200 I don't know if Batocera has good Dreamcast support, but I do use Linux which works wonderfully with Retroarch.
      I don't know if this may help, is Emulationstation avaible on Steam Deck or if is there a way to download it through Discovery? That is how I play most of my old games, but I'm not 100% sure if it's avaible there.
      If not you may want to download it through the AUR.
      It's just to get everything working through SteamOS and not have to mess around with bootloaders and partitions.

    • @glennshoemake4200
      @glennshoemake4200 Před 2 lety +1

      @@moister3727 my understanding is that Batocera is a lightweight Linux OS with Emulation Station frontend and Retroarch backend that is all pre-configured so all you need to do is drop in the roms and bios and configure your controllers.

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 Před 2 lety

      @@glennshoemake4200 That wouldn't delete SteamOS?

  • @leosvids1297
    @leosvids1297 Před 2 lety +35

    In my opinion the steam deck is a little chunky for my liking but it's not heavy that's the funny part 😄

    • @ETAPRIME
      @ETAPRIME  Před 2 lety +31

      Yeah that’s the crazy part, when I opened the box and picked it up was very surprised, it’s not heavy at all for it’s size

    • @azhanheheh
      @azhanheheh Před 2 lety +2

      FLOPPA REFRENCE

    • @rorynolan2322
      @rorynolan2322 Před 2 lety +1

      I imagine alot of the size is for cooling could also feel lighter just for being the size it is. Be interested to know how much it weights compered to a switch

    • @shagstars
      @shagstars Před 2 lety +3

      @@rorynolan2322 the cpu and gpu have independent placement on the PCB. So it uses quite some room but also the input takes some space

    • @obinator9065
      @obinator9065 Před 2 lety

      Has anyone tested Switch Emulation on the deck?

  • @MalcolmTurnerKing
    @MalcolmTurnerKing Před 2 lety

    I'll wait for Steam Deck: Tournament Edition. PS3/360 Emulation is my primary reason for wanting one of these. GREAT VIDEO, VERY INFORMATIVE.

  • @Johnny-ou2pv
    @Johnny-ou2pv Před 2 lety

    The video everyone’s been waiting for

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 Před 2 lety +2

    I think ETA PRIME is the Michael Fisher of emulation. He has a great voice. I like him, Taki Udon, Mr. Sujano, and Tech Utopia. I've heard some negative towards ETA and Taki. "Oh, they're sellouts. They never say anything bad about a device because it's given to them for free. They're paid shills."
    But overall, I like them all. Been a huge fan of Metal Jesus and The Gaming Historian for many years. The emulation / gaming scene should be a positive environment like sneakerheads and CZcams vloggers. Not full of hate and venom. We should be helping each other out and not hurting one another.

  • @soragranda
    @soragranda Před 2 lety +6

    What I wanted to see is this exact same stuff but with the tdp showing, specially in regards of cemu, yuzu, citra, rpcs3 and xenia...
    Last weak on linux all those consume like 25watts+ (definitely not portable) and it wasn't perfect framerate... Windows on steam deck is cap at 16watts if I remember correctly so battery life would be better there but Its also not that greatly optimized in windows at the moment.
    Hopefully a tdp version of this video could be in a future moment... Can't call it a king of emulation in handheld when is pretty much the same as the aya neo, I will put the "in a budget price" tag XD.

    • @ETAPRIME
      @ETAPRIME  Před 2 lety +4

      Unfortunately we have no way of showing the TDP in windows yet, Afterburner and HWInfo will not display it yet.

    • @potens1
      @potens1 Před 2 lety +1

      Sorry but, I can be wrong, aren't you mixing different things ? Like the 15W TDP (thermal) (that should be respected under Linux also) for the *APU* with 25W pulled from the battery ? (APU + screen + networking + audio + input + fan). Also, I guess you can do that for windows also, but it's quite easy under linux, for all the emulators where you see it's not able to sustain the 60fps, BUT the cpu is NOT 100% and the GPU is not 100%, you can just disable some CPU cores to keep the temperature lower, so the available cores will run faster (if I'm not wrong)(I think they did not put it the UI, but I saw people have done experiment about it)

    • @soragranda
      @soragranda Před 2 lety +1

      @@potens1 With TDP I mean both the wattage and the top threshold that is available at the moment in windows, which is 15watts (also it seems apps don't have access to measure wattage at the moment it seems).
      My current issue with the steam deck on emulators is that everything wiiU, PS3 and xbox360 is consuming 25watts+ (it's not just 25watts...) which it defeat the purpose of the handheld mode if it is getting that power consumption... All is due to the zen2 cores mostly.

    • @mingyi456
      @mingyi456 Před 2 lety +1

      @@potens1 There are only 4 cores, so there is not much to disable. Also, disabling cores generally does not increase the performance of the remaining cores significantly, especially with zen 2 cores being as efficient as they are at low power ranges. Even if the remaining cores run faster, the total power consumption of the remaining cores should be higher than if there were no diabled cores, because the power scaling curve is nonlinear.

    • @potens1
      @potens1 Před 2 lety

      @@mingyi456 From what I saw, disabling 3 cores (so, running on two threads, one core), it's able to sustain 3.5GHz on it, so, if the app you are running is CPU bounded but not "heavy" multithread will be faster. About the power, I don't know, I saw some bench when (On the game "Control") on two threads, the total power draw is about 7-8W to get more or less 55fps (static, not playing)(CPU 90% at 3.5Ghz), activating all cores jumps to 14W, same scene (all CPU 40%, 2Ghz) (static, not playing, just letting the game running), I'm pretty sure there is no one-size-fits-all, but times will tells if there are some profiles to set for each emulation/game (and it will takes time). Also, I guess before doing this deep trying to get the most of it, the easiest seems to use gamescope to reduce the TDP (the sweet spot seems to be between 11 and 13W TDP)

  • @gswilder
    @gswilder Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks ETA.. love your videos and watch almost every day. By the way, which Bigbox theme are you using?

  • @robertceron9056
    @robertceron9056 Před 2 lety

    I love how careful you were this video but delivered what many wondered. Your secret is safe lol

  • @Sevent77
    @Sevent77 Před 2 lety +4

    Is there any performance difference with Windows vs SteamOS? Cause apperently the windows GPU driver is not great which makes PC games perform much worse on windows than SteamOS with proton.
    2:50 Duckstation would be much better choice, better accuracy, better optimizations and more options to enhance the image even at 720p like MSSA.

    • @FamousWolfe
      @FamousWolfe Před 2 lety +2

      AFAIK emulation performance on SteamOS will be on par or even better than Windows, but wait until ETA does his SteamOS emulation video and see for yourself.

    • @FunFreakeyy
      @FunFreakeyy Před 2 lety

      If you benchmark the performance with programs that have native versions on both OS's Linux will always get higher scores because of less background processes, so more available power. For emulation it depends with each emulator, but if they already have Vulkan and Linux support in general, it's very likely more performant on Linux/SteamOS.

  • @Alex-nk8bw
    @Alex-nk8bw Před 2 lety +13

    PS3 emulation at full speed on a handheld - and this thing doesn't even break a sweat. Wow. 💪

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 Před 2 lety

      I mean
      Its the world strongest Handheld

    • @Alex-nk8bw
      @Alex-nk8bw Před 2 lety +1

      @@applehazeva2739 it's a 25W device emulating a 200W gaming concole. We've come a long way since then. 🙂

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 Před 2 lety

      @@Alex-nk8bw yes!

  • @e.t1031
    @e.t1031 Před 2 lety +1

    This piece of tech is absolutely OP

  • @TontonGahu
    @TontonGahu Před 2 lety +1

    Hey ETA, what hub/dock did you feature in the video, looks quite nice! Would you recommend it for the deck and a work laptop?

  • @strangelove8827
    @strangelove8827 Před 2 lety +4

    Hello Eta please try bluestacks android emulation in the steam deck

    • @ETAPRIME
      @ETAPRIME  Před 2 lety +3

      LOL, I actually have it installed and ready!

    • @strangelove8827
      @strangelove8827 Před 2 lety

      @@ETAPRIME thanks for the reply then can we expect to see some Android emulation

  • @homanovsky
    @homanovsky Před 2 lety +9

    "And the other game" 😂
    You can't even say mario kart
    Nintendo run your business with more creativity, not take down utube videos

  • @rnicotra
    @rnicotra Před 2 lety +2

    First of all... THANK YOU for the great videos you upload all the time. Your style is unique, and I love it!!! Quick question... I play games so rarely (super busy) that when I do, I just like to enable Codes of some sort (like Action Replay) to let me enjoy the game without spending months trying to figure out a strategy, as sometimes weeks go by before I get a chance to get back to ONE game, and by then I forgot the whole purpose of the story. When you run these emulation of the Steam Deck (mine to arrive after Q2), is is still possible to enter Codes or use other software like WeMod (I purchased the mobile app 4 months ago, I still have to use it LOL)? Thanks ETA... Big Fan !!!

  • @cambarnes7575
    @cambarnes7575 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey ETA!
    Love your videos! :3
    Little tip for Jet Set Radio Future emulation testing.
    My current PC actually handles the starting area just fine.
    The place that got REALLY problematic (lots of stuttering) was 99th Street.. maybe test there instead? ^-^

    • @lpnp9477
      @lpnp9477 Před 2 lety

      That's inherent to the game. It chugs there on a real Xbox

    • @cambarnes7575
      @cambarnes7575 Před 2 lety

      Huh, ok. :o
      I don't remember it chugging that bad on OG xbox.. o.O

  • @oldmanonyoutube
    @oldmanonyoutube Před 2 lety +2

    I was wondering if you are avoiding Nintendo games when using the Dolphin emulator? I've heard Nintendo is copy striking channels who use the emulator with their games on the Steam Deck. Many tech channels were reporting on this.

    • @blunderingfool
      @blunderingfool Před 2 lety +3

      If it quacks like a duck... Think the answer is pretty obvious there, no one is taking on Nintendo whilst they're on this silly warpath.

    • @FamousWolfe
      @FamousWolfe Před 2 lety +1

      @@blunderingfool it’s sad and pathetic really, it’s not like copy striking those videos is actually gonna deter anyone lol

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 Před 2 lety +21

    Most of the Deck's struggles comes from the emulators themselves and not the actual hardware. I was surprised it ran PS3 better than OG Xbox. That's where my smartphone can't reach. PS3-level and beyond. It stutters even on Wii.

    • @sam8076
      @sam8076 Před 2 lety +8

      From what I’ve seen, a lot of struggles on the deck that he had might be because the deck performs bad when using windows OS

    • @guitaraobscura8802
      @guitaraobscura8802 Před 2 lety

      Very true. It could probably run xbox better if the emulator was more optimized

    • @shadowtheimpure
      @shadowtheimpure Před 2 lety +4

      OG Xbox is still a lot less mature than PS3 emulation right now, funny enough. That scene laid dormant for a very long time, and only in the last few years has it really picked up steam.

  • @sxgaston
    @sxgaston Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome. I can’t wait to watch this. I love your videos! I tell ya if this thing can emulate the Ratchet and Clank games and the Sly Cooper games from PS2 then that’s end game for me. I’ll just sell my switch. There are always games in the steam store that I want but aren’t on the switch. Rarely does it go the other way.

    • @FamousWolfe
      @FamousWolfe Před 2 lety +3

      Same TBH. Only reason I have my Switch is for exclusives like Triangle Strategy etc. once the Switch goes EOL in another 3-4 years I’m gonna hack that bitch and use it to emulate all sorts of things.

    • @nullcoreproject
      @nullcoreproject Před 2 lety

      The Steam Deck seems to even be able to emulate Switch games pretty well, unless you play switch games online there's really no reason not to sell it and get a Steam Deck if you can at this point.

  • @hassosigbjoernson5738
    @hassosigbjoernson5738 Před 2 lety

    I'm not even into emulation ... because I dont have any ROMs and the only system I would be interested is AMIGA 500.
    *But I do like your emulation videos and watch them anyways!* ... And I'm glad you showed "Auto Modellista" 5:53 ! Didn't know it before your videos, would really like to play it! My favourite.

    • @creepingmee
      @creepingmee Před 2 lety

      I play a lot of AMIGA 500 stuff using retroarch on hardware not anywhere near as fast as the steam deck. It will have no problem playing any Amiga game.

  • @ananon5771
    @ananon5771 Před 2 lety +10

    good video,but you should really stick to steamOS,it will likely have more performance,less overhead,quick resume,and it is the only OS valve truly supports.
    id recommend seeing windows as a back-up and not the main OS,or you will really be squandering some of its main features.

    • @SchmurtzAlex
      @SchmurtzAlex Před 2 lety

      Not so sure that performance will be better…

    • @ananon5771
      @ananon5771 Před 2 lety

      @@SchmurtzAlex ive gotten conflicting reports (the phawx says there may be more for some games,but gardener briant and LTT says its alot worse across the board,and jason from linux for everyone said deck has more battery and more performance in some games with steamOS,but in the case of forza,there is more performance for windows),but it generally seems like steamOS will be alot better for deck.

  • @tubguinace
    @tubguinace Před 2 lety +7

    I trust this man more than Linus tbh.
    I mean, he couldn't even figure out how to make the controller work in RetroArch

    • @98Luthfi
      @98Luthfi Před 2 lety +1

      facts

    • @BEAT.SWEATS
      @BEAT.SWEATS Před 2 lety +3

      linus sucks, that dude has the personality of a wet tube sock.

    • @FamousWolfe
      @FamousWolfe Před 2 lety

      I don’t think that Linus & crew weren’t able to figure it out. I think they wanted to highlight the issue because the vast majority of users are nowhere near as tech savvy as people like Linus & ETA, therefore those people might struggle w/ it. And honestly, that’s fine. The Steam Deck will do so much better on SteamOS anyways.

    • @tubguinace
      @tubguinace Před 2 lety +1

      @@FamousWolfe Idk man, whoever is installing windows on a steam deck along with all the drivers should be able to figure out fairly easily how to make the controller work.

  • @EsotericArcade
    @EsotericArcade Před 2 lety +2

    This is exactly what I’m going to be doing with my Steam Deck. BigBox is the only front end choice for this amazing console.

  • @leozar69
    @leozar69 Před 2 lety +2

    I definitely want one, mostly for emulation 😄👍🏻♥

  • @cesar_otoniel
    @cesar_otoniel Před 2 lety +3

    Kart8, you cant even pronounce it without getting a copyright strike? O my, big N is really pissed.

    • @FamousWolfe
      @FamousWolfe Před 2 lety

      Indeed they are lol. Comical really, they aren’t gonna stop the people that see no evil in emulating current Gen systems.

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 Před 2 lety +5

    For me, my smartphone is already my ultimate emulation device. It's always with me and it's easier to carry around. But I'm still getting a Deck because it's a portable PS4 for $400.

  • @anthonym5395
    @anthonym5395 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for doing this!! If possible can you test the latest XEMU (v.0.6.2) with Deathrow? Definitely one of the best games to grace the OG Xbox.

  • @thunderboydavid
    @thunderboydavid Před 2 lety

    YES!!!!!!!!!! i can't WAIT for my Steam Deck to get here!!!!!!!!

  • @tyrians
    @tyrians Před 2 lety +12

    I imagine running these emulators on SteamOS/Linux would provide a lot more performance, I've seen windows take off as much as 50% performance capability on some comparison tests from other reviewers of the deck, and it's crazy just how bloated windows is.

    • @alexmeek610
      @alexmeek610 Před 2 lety

      Some of these emulators might just have better or just only directx api support is my quess

    • @o-parts
      @o-parts Před 2 lety

      It has nothing to do with Windows vs how well the emulator is optimized.

    • @FunFreakeyy
      @FunFreakeyy Před 2 lety +2

      @@o-parts Windows has more resource overhead, so if in theory both emulator versions have the same optimization, Linux will always be ahead because of that. You also see that in games that have native versions on both platforms.

    • @tyrians
      @tyrians Před 2 lety

      @@o-parts Maybe you should take a look at Windows on steam deck vs Linux mate.

  • @saranshupadhyay5741
    @saranshupadhyay5741 Před 2 lety +2

    Hm did the deck kill the switch 🙄

    • @limonsoda
      @limonsoda Před 2 lety +2

      Probably not? But you can surely use yuzu on it, and have fun with it

    • @FamousWolfe
      @FamousWolfe Před 2 lety

      Seriously doubt that, Nintendo will sue people into oblivion before they let that happen.

  • @BBBrox
    @BBBrox Před 2 lety +1

    Great emulation video (as always on this channel). Wonderful to see how the emulators are working on the Deck. I am literally waiting for my Steam Deck to arrive... TODAY... any minute now.... after having my preorder in within 10 minutes of launch last year.
    Emulation looks great... but I want to run an emulation front end booting from the SD itself, similar to the way RetroPie works. Is anything like that available yet? I might be wanting too much too soon at this point.
    I figured Eta Prime was the place to start and at first I thought this was it. Not quite, but close.

    • @austinbergen2409
      @austinbergen2409 Před 2 lety +1

      Dang man, that's impressive you bought in so early!

    • @BBBrox
      @BBBrox Před 2 lety +2

      @@austinbergen2409 I knew I wanted one as soon as they were announced. Emulation was my first thought. In delivery news... Fedex delayed my delivery at the last minute... until today... so I'm waiting a few hours more.
      Bootable sd is still my dream, but after a bit of playing it seems like Retroarch might work pretty well. It runs through Steam, so that's good. Hopefully Retroarch and SteamOS get along. I'll know soon.

  • @DarkPoindexter1982
    @DarkPoindexter1982 Před rokem +1

    What are the details settings are you using in RPCS3? I am trying to run Madden 2010 and Batman Arkman Aslyum I am getting lots of stuttering and frame drops.

  • @nathanhargenrader645
    @nathanhargenrader645 Před 2 lety +5

    Not sure why anyone would want to see windows emulation specifically... for one Linux is great for emulation, probably better than windows. Also windows on the deck is basically borked right now so Linux will be considerably better. Basically I want to see the steam os emulation video

  • @PutthePCinmyHands
    @PutthePCinmyHands Před 2 lety +3

    Eww what the fk. Windows Emulation? 90+ % of people won't even use Windows.

    • @PutthePCinmyHands
      @PutthePCinmyHands Před 2 lety

      Also no Nintendo Emulation?! What is this?

    • @blunderingfool
      @blunderingfool Před 2 lety +4

      @@PutthePCinmyHands You really are something "special".

    • @FamousWolfe
      @FamousWolfe Před 2 lety

      @@PutthePCinmyHands bruh Big N is PISSED OFF right now, anyone doing videos of emulating any Nintendo game on the Steam Deck gets a copyright strike and taken down. That’s the reason why ETA didn’t do any Nintendo games.

  • @pauloumali6242
    @pauloumali6242 Před 2 lety

    Dream come true... Thank you

  • @gravious
    @gravious Před 2 lety

    great overview, awesome stuff as always, but can you tell me, you said chains of olympus ran at 60, did it need any frameskip? thanks :)

  • @shanzo85
    @shanzo85 Před 2 lety

    Great work as always. Out of curiosity what big box theme are you running?

  • @batmancrammarc
    @batmancrammarc Před 2 lety +2

    Keep the Deck videos coming!

  • @Vashkey
    @Vashkey Před 2 lety

    I hadnt really been paying attention lately but Im very impressed because I just had no idea that PS3 and og Xbox emulation had got this far along.

  • @cuhdi8964
    @cuhdi8964 Před 2 lety

    I love your vids man

  • @carloosgongora1701
    @carloosgongora1701 Před 2 lety

    nice video, I have 1 question.. can you install in 1 hard drive or ssd batocera, RetroArch, Nintendo switch emulator or retroBat with partitions ??

  • @AndroidFerret
    @AndroidFerret Před 2 lety +1

    I am really surprised nobody remembers playing most games at max 30fps ..and LOVING it

  • @creepsomber
    @creepsomber Před 2 lety

    Props for the Legacy Of Kain/Raziel thumbnail

  • @seethruhead7119
    @seethruhead7119 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you do a video on a home console version of steamdeck? Maybe ChimeraOS installed onto a ryzen mini PC. with the steamdeckui flag enabled? Would love to see what a deck-like home console could do. How it would function from a usability standpoint.

  • @Fizggig
    @Fizggig Před rokem +1

    This system is legit a game changer for me. I now feel complete. I feel for the first time I can easily play any game on the go...except like ps4 Xbox one games but even then I can use xcloud or buy some of the Sony exclusives on steam. With this and the switch and the ps5 I don't think you really need anything else.

  • @johnfrankster3244
    @johnfrankster3244 Před 2 lety

    Can i ask how you got redream going?
    I prefer redream to flycast in general aswell, but the default for emudeck is flycast?
    Ive heard some mention redream has artifact related problems occur(unsure if it is still the case)

  • @gabrielprandini2629
    @gabrielprandini2629 Před 2 lety

    Awesome, thanks ETA Prime, best channel in YT

  • @agentskazzers3482
    @agentskazzers3482 Před 2 lety

    Random question ETA Prime when you are in Windows mode on the steam deck can you use the steam controls to adjust the battery settings and what not I am curious about that?

  • @MikeTheGamer77
    @MikeTheGamer77 Před 2 lety

    Sweet. I'll be happy when I get one. 3 years from now.

  • @ThomasSerruques
    @ThomasSerruques Před 2 lety

    thanks for the video. you tested with the APU@15W but surely you can push it up to 25-30W no? while keeping it plugged in. that's the way i plan on playing when i receive (when?) my steamdeck.

  • @wizards-themagicalconcert5048

    Dolphin Blue and Atomiswave possible as well ?
    And was wondering how that can handle Scanlines , Bloom and CRt effects for old style Emu ?
    Any test ? Thanks for this video, very good,subbed !

  • @GameReplays-
    @GameReplays- Před 2 lety

    not bad,not bad at all.I can't wait to get mine