At the new price we should be getting, The new 2.8 4cyl should be the 165kw / 550nm version and the v8 should be the 200kw version from the old 200 series and fitted with a 6 speed manual or auto. If the v8 is going they could fit the v6 from the 300 series. I agree the current model looks a lot better.
also this new 70 series is not a 70 series its a hilux with the shape of the 70 sieres.... 70 series is defines by heavy duty diesel this new car is a 2.8 four cylinder HILUX ENGINE not a 70 series... They want to keep making money off the well known shape of the 70 series but want to end the v8... at least make a new engine for fkn 70 but no lets just take the engine from the Hillux and put it in the 70 series WHY wouldnt u just buy a hilux its exaclty the ssame. the worlds gone mad how is nobody saying this
The V8 has only powered the Landcruiser since 07. Also Landcruisers have been available with 4cyl engines (that have also powered the Hilux) in other markets for decades.
12:37 Orders for the Prado 150 spiked when the new one was revealed because people wanted to secure the current gen for themselves as the new one will be in some ways watered down (lack of wheelback, new Toyota interiors looking less classy, no more analog gauges, among many other things) so I think demand for the V8 will be there because people know it will not exist at some point (maybe now, maybe later, this situation is such a mess)
Well I think it is interesting to see the next generation - I still do hope they keep the manual gearbox option in the car too - it's a bit sad to see it only coming in the 4 cylinder option - I hope they will bring it in a 6 cylinder option again too ?
Luckily they have made some V8’s in the new model but aren’t taking any orders for them so who knows if they will actually take orders again. A basic diesel 6 cylinder would be a great option like they offer in the overseas markets
12:46 I fully agree. The new hood is way too simple geometrically and the lack of the hood scoop because of the different intercooler position makes it look neutered. I also really don't like the headlights and grill, as well as the bumper. They could've easily integrated the turn signals into the old design, although I don't think it works that well with the wider front.
I’m glad you agree and thank you for watching. A lot of people like it but I think some like it because it’s all that Toyota will be offering and they already had it in order. Given the choice, I wonder what the majority would choose?
@@avro9707 I've seen the new front with halogen lights and I must say that looks really good, although I'll miss the 2000s and 2010s looking previous front
Speaking of the hood scoop the V8 is going to need a different hood for that intercooler. Something tells me that this new 70 Series will not come in a V8 because of that. They kept the wider front presumably because going back to the narrow would've required more work to make the extremely old design work with the new hardware but this also means worse performance with the different track widths. In short, they kept the wide front which makes the V8 possible but without a different hood it will not work. The wider was also likely kept just because using the same front section as the previous face-lift would've been easier than going back to the narrow front.
I ordered the 70 Series Wagon V8 mid June 2022 and have recently been told by the Dealership that if I still want the V8 I will be able to get it. However, it will be the upgraded 2024 Model as my vehicle order hasn't even been built. I'd be interested in your comment regarding this as I have a few doubts/questions with this information. First thing, its not the same vehicle I had ordered. Secondly, sounds like I have to settle for the new look vehicle whether or not I like it if wanting the V8. Could also be a way for the salesman to make a better/dearer sale? Any return comments would be appreciated.
Hi mate, this is happening all over. Not just you. My advice, if you want the old style v8, drop your contract and look for a recently arrived model. They are popping up everywhere at dealerships for decent prices at the trusted dealerships
If you want a V8 79 please call your dealers now, as we picked up a two year in place cancelled order due to the price increase, with this 79 d/c arriving Freo this month, delivery mid/late Nov. The Toyota Tax pricing is now more than crazy, with our V8 79 dual cab with a tray & towbar costing over $100k before we do anything to it
Big price hikes are sadly the name of the game with new Toyota body on frame vehicles. Land Cruiser got a big bump, Tundra got very big bump, Sequoia the same. The even more ridiculous thing with the 70 Series is that it's still the same vehicle underneath. Disappointing these new Toyota releases are.
True. I could understand if they changed significant aspects of the design and structure but for a new bonnet and slightly nicer interior, I can’t see the value
Mark I still think that are incorrect. "Drive" have published an article on the 2024 LC70 price rise and in it they say that the order books remain closed for the V8 until possibly early next year. The Workmate 76 Wagon will only come with the 2.8L 4 cylinder, and the refreshed V8 will incur price rises between $8350 and $8800. They have the complete list of all models and pricing, including the V8s. This information would only come from Toyota.
Hi mate Message is very clear. Toyota Australia announced new pricing for both V8 and 4cyl variant. Order books not opened yet for V8 (closed since July 2022) Toyota Australia taking orders for 4cyl variant only. I cannot read where stated V8 stopped (apart from dealers message) Anyway no one will buy a 4cyl for 80k (drive away) Hilux is 25k cheaper and a better daily driver
Hi mate. Respectfully, I’m not sure how what you said is clear? If anything is the opposite. I also have had viewers commenting they have already placed orders for the new v8. The mines will love the 4 cylinder and will sell well in those sectors
I love how people pay big bucks for them,then spend a fortune getting them built , 50 K of box ticking later ,1 tonne of stuff strapped on n the fuel economy of a tug boat,O what a feeling
Hi mate. I understand your point of view. Not everyone’s cup of tea. I think a common misconception is spending big on these vehicles is a must. To me, they are quite a capable package out of the box. At $75k they cost as much as the upper spec hilux and both need mods to do hard off-road work. I honestly don’t see the hate the 79 gets and it really isn’t that much different than the others in the Toyota lineup in terms of reliability and build quality (although this landcruiser’s build quality is miles ahead of the hilux and a little bit better than the Prado). Just less tech, a V8 and solid axle. Having spent countless hours fixing and documenting rebuilding vehicles I understand the importance of basic vehicles but like I said, not everyone has had the same experience as me and won’t understand my perspective. If you would like some more perspective, check out my 10 part patrol build series where I spent most of the time fixing electrical issues for tech that the 79 doesn’t have 👍
Just had a phone call from my dealer that my LC78 (V8) is due this month. Original order price was 77k and now with the update, it's gone to $90,541 incl on road costs.
@westauzzie… I ordered in April ‘22 and was price guaranteed by Toyota Australia against ANY increases. Given a case/reference number, and told to get in touch if anything said otherwise. Fast forward to November ‘23 and sent “new” contract by dealer to sign and return, asking for nearly $12K more!! Given any, and every excuse by dealer and Toyota Australia as to it being a new model, tech change, spec change, new generation etc. etc. etc. 🤬 Oh what a feeling, eh?
People need to remember that every single mining or likewise companies will be swapping their orders for the 4 cylinders which means we will have a huge influx of V8s. They’re cheaper, more affordable to run, better for sustainability, automatic etc.
Sweet mate! Congrats. The new price with a $2000 dealer expense. That’s what I have seen from the new contracts and messages between dealers and customers. Could be different for other dealers though
This is what I thought yet dealers are saying no orders on v8’s are being taken and Toyota australia are saying v8’s will be available when order books open. Which according to a viewer on here, has already opened 🤷♂️
I had to order a New long motor from Japan for a 2010 76series. For the 12months it took to arrive, I was told every month that there was a major parts supply issue that will never be fixed as long as the V8 is around. Not sure how true this is. Would make sense though.
@@NorthOz Fuel economy and price are part of it, and though as a boomer its pains me to admit it, I've become a fan of an automatics off road over the last few years. Also, FWIW, I test drove one of the first 76's on the highway and was a little underwhelmed. I was looking at a Hilux, Prado or Fortuner anyway, so not having the V8 is not a big deal to me. Cheers for the video.
Yeah, also puzzled on why the V8, sure if you want to tune it and tear up your warranty - it’s going to be great, but straight out the showroom the 2.8 has the same power, more torque and better economy - I must be missing something here
Wouldn’t they just deliver the remaining v8’s using 2023 styling. Assuming your other post is correct and no more orders they will cease production in about 12 months. Seems very click baity
Personally I reckon this is to help with the EV push, with government fears the v8 might still be driving around in 30yrs time, put a 4 banger in it so it wears out quicker and there’s no more available to purchase it will be full EV by then. That’s what I think the real underlying idea is.
I think there are probably quite a lot of people who are trying to beg, borrow, or steal, to get a V8 LC70 series anyway they can, because if Toyota pull the pin on them, the V8 models out there will be worth more overnight. It probably wouldn’t surprise me if people will be out there right now, buying second or third ‘cruisers just to flip for “bulk cash”.
If that’s the case, they are buying it for the wrong reasons and will only rob people of the opportunity to purchase one at a reasonable price. I see it on the forums all the time and quite frankly I’m getting tired of it. It will cause an over inflation in the market and people that need the cars won’t be able to get into one as the second hand market has falsely inflated their worth. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love for my LC to be worth $150k but it’s not right in my opinion
@@NorthOz my troopy gxl arriving December 2023 hopefully after 27 month wait. Also wondering if I’m getting with scoop or new front facia v8? Dealership got no idea btw.
why does a tesla go to 0-60 so quick? because its electric...comparing a hybrid electrical system to a v8 diesel with barely no electrics is not a comparison.... this is a smart move from marketing team from Toyota to make the stats look better then it actually is.. a half sized engine 4 cyl is not going to last as long as a heavy duty v8 with no electric it of course it will speed up faster its bloody electric. this is pretty disgusting move from totoyta to delete the v8 and bring in a new age of less reliable engines. you buy toyota becasue of its reliability new goverment regualtions are ending the reliability world quick
At the new price we should be getting, The new 2.8 4cyl should be the 165kw / 550nm version and the v8 should be the 200kw version from the old 200 series and fitted with a 6 speed manual or auto. If the v8 is going they could fit the v6 from the 300 series. I agree the current model looks a lot better.
also this new 70 series is not a 70 series its a hilux with the shape of the 70 sieres.... 70 series is defines by heavy duty diesel this new car is a 2.8 four cylinder HILUX ENGINE not a 70 series... They want to keep making money off the well known shape of the 70 series but want to end the v8... at least make a new engine for fkn 70 but no lets just take the engine from the Hillux and put it in the 70 series WHY wouldnt u just buy a hilux its exaclty the ssame. the worlds gone mad how is nobody saying this
The V8 has only powered the Landcruiser since 07.
Also Landcruisers have been available with 4cyl engines (that have also powered the Hilux) in other markets for decades.
12:37 Orders for the Prado 150 spiked when the new one was revealed because people wanted to secure the current gen for themselves as the new one will be in some ways watered down (lack of wheelback, new Toyota interiors looking less classy, no more analog gauges, among many other things) so I think demand for the V8 will be there because people know it will not exist at some point (maybe now, maybe later, this situation is such a mess)
I couldn’t agree more. Hence why I bought my v8 before the new models came in
Well I think it is interesting to see the next generation - I still do hope they keep the manual gearbox option in the car too - it's a bit sad to see it only coming in the 4 cylinder option - I hope they will bring it in a 6 cylinder option again too ?
Luckily they have made some V8’s in the new model but aren’t taking any orders for them so who knows if they will actually take orders again. A basic diesel 6 cylinder would be a great option like they offer in the overseas markets
12:46 I fully agree. The new hood is way too simple geometrically and the lack of the hood scoop because of the different intercooler position makes it look neutered. I also really don't like the headlights and grill, as well as the bumper. They could've easily integrated the turn signals into the old design, although I don't think it works that well with the wider front.
I’m glad you agree and thank you for watching. A lot of people like it but I think some like it because it’s all that Toyota will be offering and they already had it in order. Given the choice, I wonder what the majority would choose?
@@NorthOz true, already being set on buying one definitely changes your judgement
Agree, pre facelift looks so much better!
@@avro9707 I've seen the new front with halogen lights and I must say that looks really good, although I'll miss the 2000s and 2010s looking previous front
Speaking of the hood scoop the V8 is going to need a different hood for that intercooler. Something tells me that this new 70 Series will not come in a V8 because of that. They kept the wider front presumably because going back to the narrow would've required more work to make the extremely old design work with the new hardware but this also means worse performance with the different track widths. In short, they kept the wide front which makes the V8 possible but without a different hood it will not work. The wider was also likely kept just because using the same front section as the previous face-lift would've been easier than going back to the narrow front.
Possibly. It seems like they want to keep the v8 in there though and all they are changing are the styling so everything else should fit up
Look carefully. New bonnet air intake just around the front lip. Which is a better and cleaver design to suck air in top top Mount intercooler
Appreciate your views mate! I'd buy it for the new/retro looks and replace the 4 cylinder engine with an FTE! (will be costly tho..). Just my opinion.
Thanks for the comment! At that point you might as well get a well looked after early year cruiser. It would cost you much less too 👍
I ordered the 70 Series Wagon V8 mid June 2022 and have recently been told by the Dealership that if I still want the V8 I will be able to get it. However, it will be the upgraded 2024 Model as my vehicle order hasn't even been built. I'd be interested in your comment regarding this as I have a few doubts/questions with this information. First thing, its not the same vehicle I had ordered. Secondly, sounds like I have to settle for the new look vehicle whether or not I like it if wanting the V8. Could also be a way for the salesman to make a better/dearer sale? Any return comments would be appreciated.
Hi mate, this is happening all over. Not just you. My advice, if you want the old style v8, drop your contract and look for a recently arrived model. They are popping up everywhere at dealerships for decent prices at the trusted dealerships
Whats your thoughts on a LC76 Merlot Red 2023 Model, Toyota Dealership Drive Away $104k? Got doubts about the colour?
I agree in all what You talked about, especialy about the design of the 2024 70 series, Hope the V8 could survive a long time
Thank you Mohamed, me too 👍
The retro 70 series was not a singular box in the front, this face-lift is.
I agree. The only thing really retro about it is the placement of the side markers
If you want a V8 79 please call your dealers now, as we picked up a two year in place cancelled order due to the price increase, with this 79 d/c arriving Freo this month, delivery mid/late Nov. The Toyota Tax pricing is now more than crazy, with our V8 79 dual cab with a tray & towbar costing over $100k before we do anything to it
Definitely. These aren’t cheap anymore that’s for sure and it’s hard to layout the cash when rams are a similar price
My local dealer has 2x 79 workmates and 2x 78 workmates in stock. All v8’s
Big price hikes are sadly the name of the game with new Toyota body on frame vehicles. Land Cruiser got a big bump, Tundra got very big bump, Sequoia the same. The even more ridiculous thing with the 70 Series is that it's still the same vehicle underneath. Disappointing these new Toyota releases are.
True. I could understand if they changed significant aspects of the design and structure but for a new bonnet and slightly nicer interior, I can’t see the value
Mark I still think that are incorrect. "Drive" have published an article on the 2024 LC70 price rise and in it they say that the order books remain closed for the V8 until possibly early next year. The Workmate 76 Wagon will only come with the 2.8L 4 cylinder, and the refreshed V8 will incur price rises between $8350 and $8800. They have the complete list of all models and pricing, including the V8s. This information would only come from Toyota.
Hi mate, correct the workmate 76 only comes in 4 cylinder. The new lineup includes 17 variants to choose from
Hi mate
Message is very clear. Toyota Australia announced new pricing for both V8 and 4cyl variant.
Order books not opened yet for V8 (closed since July 2022)
Toyota Australia taking orders for 4cyl variant only.
I cannot read where stated V8 stopped (apart from dealers message)
Anyway no one will buy a 4cyl for 80k (drive away) Hilux is 25k cheaper and a better daily driver
Hi mate. Respectfully, I’m not sure how what you said is clear? If anything is the opposite. I also have had viewers commenting they have already placed orders for the new v8. The mines will love the 4 cylinder and will sell well in those sectors
I love how people pay big bucks for them,then spend a fortune getting them built , 50 K of box ticking later ,1 tonne of stuff strapped on n the fuel economy of a tug boat,O what a feeling
Hi mate. I understand your point of view. Not everyone’s cup of tea. I think a common misconception is spending big on these vehicles is a must. To me, they are quite a capable package out of the box. At $75k they cost as much as the upper spec hilux and both need mods to do hard off-road work. I honestly don’t see the hate the 79 gets and it really isn’t that much different than the others in the Toyota lineup in terms of reliability and build quality (although this landcruiser’s build quality is miles ahead of the hilux and a little bit better than the Prado). Just less tech, a V8 and solid axle. Having spent countless hours fixing and documenting rebuilding vehicles I understand the importance of basic vehicles but like I said, not everyone has had the same experience as me and won’t understand my perspective. If you would like some more perspective, check out my 10 part patrol build series where I spent most of the time fixing electrical issues for tech that the 79 doesn’t have 👍
Just had a phone call from my dealer that my LC78 (V8) is due this month. Original order price was 77k and now with the update, it's gone to $90,541 incl on road costs.
I’m hearing that a lot now. You think you will take it?
@@NorthOz They've dangled the carrot in front of me for two years and I'm hungry. 😅
@westauzzie… I ordered in April ‘22 and was price guaranteed by Toyota Australia against ANY increases.
Given a case/reference number, and told to get in touch if anything said otherwise.
Fast forward to November ‘23 and sent “new” contract by dealer to sign and return, asking for nearly $12K more!!
Given any, and every excuse by dealer and Toyota Australia as to it being a new model, tech change, spec change, new generation etc. etc. etc. 🤬
Oh what a feeling, eh?
@@ramondeanchors Yeah, also had price protection in place, until they released the new model. It's definitely a kick in the balls.
Mate, you got me lost with the price in Australian Dollar, I automatically though in USD. Thanks for the details.
Oh haha no worries. All prices in Australian dollars 👍
went to nz dealer on sunday, i saw the new v8 price and available for order, $3000nz different only
That’s a great deal. I haven’t seen one that low 👍
Hey man, out of topic but how much is the rogue as i am interested including on road costs, stamp duty? Thanks
Hi mate, depends on your dealer but the average price seems to be around $85k on road 👍 thanks for watching and subscribing 🤙
People need to remember that every single mining or likewise companies will be swapping their orders for the 4 cylinders which means we will have a huge influx of V8s.
They’re cheaper, more affordable to run, better for sustainability, automatic etc.
Interesting to see if the v8’s they had on order get switched to 4 cylinder so more people can take up those contracts?
@@NorthOz speaking to people inside Toyota there will be a load more V8s made available to help people accelerate up the queue
Add the cost of options and modifications. Also I picture every AU CZcamsr making videos on the next Gen 76/9 in the near future.
Oh for sure. The final build costs are going to be ridiculous. Thanks for watching and subscribing 👍
ordered on 2022.5, still waiting. Not sure how the contract works. Do they still sell me at contract price or updated price?
Sweet mate! Congrats. The new price with a $2000 dealer expense. That’s what I have seen from the new contracts and messages between dealers and customers. Could be different for other dealers though
More interesting apparently the new 1GD on the cruisers has a catch can?
Oh really? That’s new. Will be interesting to see if that’s something that we can get for older vehicles from toyota
Isn't there a v8 diesel engine supply issue still lingering in the back ground.
This is what I thought yet dealers are saying no orders on v8’s are being taken and Toyota australia are saying v8’s will be available when order books open. Which according to a viewer on here, has already opened 🤷♂️
I had to order a New long motor from Japan for a 2010 76series. For the 12months it took to arrive, I was told every month that there was a major parts supply issue that will never be fixed as long as the V8 is around. Not sure how true this is. Would make sense though.
Toyota hype, marketing and pure bullshit. Ok, I admit it, it's working on me. I want one, but with the 2.8.
You want the 2.8? I finally found someone! What draws you to the 4 cylinder?
@@NorthOz Fuel economy and price are part of it, and though as a boomer its pains me to admit it, I've become a fan of an automatics off road over the last few years. Also, FWIW, I test drove one of the first 76's on the highway and was a little underwhelmed. I was looking at a Hilux, Prado or Fortuner anyway, so not having the V8 is not a big deal to me. Cheers for the video.
Yeah, also puzzled on why the V8, sure if you want to tune it and tear up your warranty - it’s going to be great, but straight out the showroom the 2.8 has the same power, more torque and better economy - I must be missing something here
My guess is that the V8 will come out with the scope as the intercooler is on top of the motor
The hood will be the same for all models. A front air dam is in place to direct air to the intercooler
Wouldn’t they just deliver the remaining v8’s using 2023 styling. Assuming your other post is correct and no more orders they will cease production in about 12 months. Seems very click baity
Personally I reckon this is to help with the EV push, with government fears the v8 might still be driving around in 30yrs time, put a 4 banger in it so it wears out quicker and there’s no more available to purchase it will be full EV by then.
That’s what I think the real underlying idea is.
The EV situation at the moment is just a Fad, It will go belly up in 10 yrs or so.
If the EV thing takes off which I’m very doubtful it will, the 4 cylinder would be easier to modify to accept the EV hardware
No, EV's are a totally different market.
I think there are probably quite a lot of people who are trying to beg, borrow, or steal, to get a V8 LC70 series anyway they can, because if Toyota pull the pin on them, the V8 models out there will be worth more overnight.
It probably wouldn’t surprise me if people will be out there right now, buying second or third ‘cruisers just to flip for “bulk cash”.
If that’s the case, they are buying it for the wrong reasons and will only rob people of the opportunity to purchase one at a reasonable price. I see it on the forums all the time and quite frankly I’m getting tired of it. It will cause an over inflation in the market and people that need the cars won’t be able to get into one as the second hand market has falsely inflated their worth. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love for my LC to be worth $150k but it’s not right in my opinion
So roughly $4K more for the V8 manual compared to the 4 cylinder 6 speed automatic.
Correct 👍 and overall around $8.5k more than the old v8 model 👍
Glad I just got a VDJ79
Congrats bro! Make sure you subscribe. Follow the journey of my v8 build as your advice will be appreciated 🤙
Are they removing bonnet scoop for v8?
They sure are 👍 It’s not the best look hey?
@@NorthOz my troopy gxl arriving December 2023 hopefully after 27 month wait. Also wondering if I’m getting with scoop or new front facia v8? Dealership got no idea btw.
They are going at you and all angry because it’s true and they’re all upset that they didn’t get an V8 allocation.
Sold out for the next 2 years and is not coming to the USA
I’d be surprised if they open up the books on the v8 again. Unfortunately the US can’t get these and they aren’t happy about it either
Seen them on the road in PNG, looks horrible. We get them with the 1HZ engine.
Couldn’t agree more. I have seen a lot of pictures of them now and none of them look good
why does a tesla go to 0-60 so quick? because its electric...comparing a hybrid electrical system to a v8 diesel with barely no electrics is not a comparison.... this is a smart move from marketing team from Toyota to make the stats look better then it actually is.. a half sized engine 4 cyl is not going to last as long as a heavy duty v8 with no electric it of course it will speed up faster its bloody electric. this is pretty disgusting move from totoyta to delete the v8 and bring in a new age of less reliable engines. you buy toyota becasue of its reliability new goverment regualtions are ending the reliability world quick
….. and the rear axle is still 4” narrower than the front track!! Go figure.
Haha wouldn’t want to fix that hey? 😂
How to strech a 1min video to 15min😂
Nothing FOREVER, seems to beat my Jimny!😮
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