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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2019
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I thought I was going to learn something. Instead 6 and a half minutes just to be reminded a few times that losing that amount of oil “isn’t quite normal”
Saved me with this comment, cheers
Zakir Hussain yeah me too, load of rubbish
Same here. I had this issue with my old vw golf mk4 with similar engine 1.6
Great comment. Guess we know he’s a Subaru fanboy
@@dusanradanovic2487 engine is very poor.....weak and problems with oil leaks.....👎
You know it's bad when a Subaru driver is complaining about oil consumption from another manufacturer...
I dont know man my ej is using very little
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ha indeed! I have an Outback and an A4 and the Outback burns way more oil.
No worse engine made then Sabaru, stone age design
Im on the 2nd A4 audi, first one with 260000km, still didnt consumed 1l on 10k.
I have also a subaru, i change every 5k, so i dont notice oil consumption.
But, i had a Honda with the d16z6 engine... boy... that one was like a 2 stroker. 1l 500km. Vtec liked oil.
I drink 1 litre of oil every 3 months that keeps my joints in shape, does it mean I'm German?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like my German colleague answers for almost every question, “it depends” 😂
The oil consumption issue is due to the piston rings they used from 2009 to mid 2013. They are thin to "reduce friction" and get coked up with carbon really easily and don't scrape oil off the cylinder walls like they should. They either get stuck inside the ring lands or in more extreme cases, get stuck slightly expanded and break scoring up the cylinder walls, etc. You can try doing a piston soak with Marvel Mystery Oil by simply removing a spark plug, making sure the piston is at bottom dead center and simply pouring it in through the spark plug hole filling the cylinder. Obviously, you don't run the engine in this condition. Let it sit anywhere from a few hours to overnight. Then with the plug still removed, crank the engine over ( Remove the fuel pump fuse so it doesn't try and fire and the injectors aren't spraying gasoline into the cylinder you are trying to clean out.) to remove the remaining MMO. Place a shop rag over the hole to collect what sprays out. Replace the spark plug, coil, and fuses you pulled and change the oil. Next, drive it like you stole it for a while on the highway. It will probably smoke a little and that's to be expected due to some MMO remaining in the cylinders.
I also injected distilled water steam to the air intake while engine idling for at least 15 minutes. And drove the car hard. Repeated the process 5 times each day.
That helped recover compression from 170 to 178 and got rid of oil consumption.
I’m a little confused, how to you crank the engine over to make the pistons be at the bottom like you said. And also why would I need to replace the spark plug and coil if it’s the piston rings that are the issue. Lastly, would I replace each spark plug and coil or just the ones from which I poured the MMO in, i guess you’d pour MMO on every piston
It's the poor design of the oil ring holes in the piston and the oil rings themselves. The oil ring holes in the piston get blocked and the oil cannot be wiped off the cylinder walls and return to the sump. The oil therefore enters the combustion chamber and is burnt. I was told this by my VW dealer and I'm having my pistons and rings replaced. They recon that this problem was only discovered 2 years ago, I call bullshit as VAG have known about this for at least 5 years. VAG are super dishonest....Don't buy their products! You will get caught eventually and be up for big $$$$ to fix their design flaws.
ended up replacing pistons and larger rings on my 2010 a4, just cost me parts thank god but pain in the ass.
@@TheTactical6string As I keep saying to people, under no circumstances ever buy a VAG product unless you like being shafted.
Hello from India , my December 2011 make VW Polo 1.2 TDI driven 150000kms consumes 500ml to 1500ml engine oil depending upon cold starts running instantly without warming up. Another factor that I have noticed is different brands of oils are consumed or oxidised differently depending on their quality.
1. When I used Castrol Magnatec professional 5w-40 for 6 consecutive oil changes, engine consumed or oxidised 750ml oil in every 15000kms.
2. When I changed to Castrol Edge 5w-40 for the 7th service at 105000kms, engine consumed or oxidised just 500ml in 15000kms.
3. Now when VW workshop changed to Shell 5w-40 inside their VW printed grey bottle for 120000kms mark and 135000kms mark, Engine consumed or oxidised 1500ml reaching 15000kms.
So what I have felt is, it's not only the engine's design flaw that contributes to the oil consumption but also the chemistry of the oil that contributes to the oil consumption.
In the UK I worked at an Audi Franchise and it mostly affected the A4 B8 and A5 1.8 and 2.0 tfsi engines. The fix was modified pistons and con rods. We had a tech who could take an engine out do the work and have it back together usually within a day (assuming all parts were available).
Q6¹
How much was the repair bill?
@@doublej5045seven grand
Still a crap car...
@@carel20081 ok … three years later
Its Audi's perpetual lubrication system.
By using 1L of oil every 1000km you are topping up with fresh oil every 5000km, genius really.
@Brianna Columbo oil consumption leads to power loss, builds up carbon quicker and the longer you ignore it the more the cylinders get scored and burn oil quicker and quicker. Im expecting my car back this week from a consumption rebuild
Topping up the oil doesn’t give you clean oil
@@MQBjon you forgot tour catalytic converter get ruined
@@tambosnipes1652 these cars have cat issues from the factory, replaced mine with a apr hfc same week i bought the car
@@MQBjon have the vw group gone to shit this bad?
Audi used slightly oval pistons in the A4 2.0t....i did hundreds of pistons and rings jobs at the dealership, we swapped A3 pistons and rings into A4 and that stopped it. Sometimes you would find scored cylinder walls and had to replace the block.
I'm used to checking my oil weekly ever since I owned a rx8 the king of oil consumption
rotary engine, duh xP
I've got bmw e39 530d (M57 engine) 256000 miles on the clock and from change to change oil i dont put even 1ml of oil. So 6,5 litre fresh going in and when changing 6,5 going out. Can you belive that? Because i still can not. Coolant as well is on the same level from the day when i change it.
Is that the 3.0 used in early l322 Range Rover mine has 200000 miles on it and doesn’t use any oil at all
.neither does my 300000 mile 300tdi landrover or my 265000 300tdi discovery or any of my 3 150000+ mile td5 discoverys
I have 2 little audi 19 years old TT coupe quattro , purchased a new since the D1 and 2016 S1 2.0 tfsi and old Cooper s 2005 , both of them in SHAPE condition, not drink oil because being care rightly, I don’t MOD em either - ALMOST STOCK !
I just put Ceratec liqui moly every 15K mile , 5K mile regular Mobil 1 5-40 and do it by myself, never ever to dealer or any shop
The problem is :
- Low tension oil scraping rings (wear very quickly due to the strength of Alusil cylinder bores).
- Piston oil drain holes are too small and are misplaced.
Effective Solution 1: new pistons and rings.
Solution that works for some cases: Three stages engine flush using BG 109 as called BG EPR
How much will each of these solutions cost?
@@doublej5045 solution 1: 4000 euros.
Solution 2: 100 euros.
My 2006 A4 Avant has 535000 Kms and uses one litre every 5k kms....synthetic since new. Still love this car!
Hahahah...lier
i need to say that's impressive. 3.2L? or 2.0L/1.8L?
2015 in Switzerland I bought used Audi a4 b8 1.8 tfsi with a 55 000 km. And very short after I realize that something isn't right. Every time when I was checking oil, I must buy 1 liter.... intervals every 1200, 1500 km. He was on Garanty, and guys from official service take him and make some repairs. After that everything is allright. But in the meantime, I must change clutch, on 65000 km, on normal driving... After the repair, it still made me a problems. After 90000 he start to consuming more oil, like on the begining... And quality of the materials in cockpit, very bad. And now, I sold this car, very disapointed in top German brands... I swear, new Audi cars isn't like old ones
back in earlier years like 2000 VW paid Getrag for the transmissions and they were worth more than the engines were. For sure they started saving money and that means it doesnt last as long. My clutch was still working fine after 500,000 kilometers when I sold the car. Engine was producing smoke probably valve seals and maybe rings on 1.8T
Instead of labeling it a scam and going ahead and using different oil weight you should have taken your car to Audi service center and tell them you want "oil consumption test" done which is free. And if Audi service center confirms your car in fact consumes unnatural amounts of oil they will fix your car at free of charge. True story because it happened to my 2010 A4 2.0T in 2016. Audi dealer ended up changing pistons, piston rings, all gaskets and whatever else for free as a settlement to customers with this problem. Go figure its scam genius.
Audi isn’t “scamming” anyone. The oil consumption issue is actually 2 factors. #1 being the design of the pcv system which is very minimal consumption, just check for oil in your boost hoses. #2 being the design of the pistons that VW makes Audi use in the 2.0 and smaller motors which causes the piston rings to wear prematurely, hence the recall and warranty extensions. And let’s not forget, all of the German manufactures were screwing with emissions, VW just got caught.
Use oil bought directly from Audi. Don’t let all of the other manufacturers trick you in synthetic oil that’s cheap
Agree
We should start a new class action lawsuit
They did in the USA and won ! Upgraded every single engine with new pistones !
is there info on this new class action lawsuit?
u can get goodwill up to 130k miles in u.s need a good service history tho
@@BeauBerman i heard it ended in 2015
@@MQBjon Trust me, I went though hours and hours of phone calls with dealers. you cant get good will on a car thats never been to a dealer.
Fun Fact
Alfa Romeo driver here...
- Driving a '08 159 SW Ti 2.4 Q-Tronic chiptuned to approx 250hp, using LiqyMoly 5W40, and car has 320k km currently on odo...
- service interval every 15k km...
- 6.5L of oil goes in...
- 6.5L of oil comes out (when service is done)...
- no oil is added during 15k drive time, even though in manual it is stated that car can consume up to 1.5L per 1000km...
...now where is that German quality, keep on bashing Italian cars!
Reading some of the replies on here Audi owners should pay attention to what the guy says and do not buy the petrol engine 2002 to 20013. My mates 20012 A4 Quattro needed a new half engine paid for by Audi 6 months ago service book was complete and up to date he was the 3rd owner , so there is no denying Audi made a big mistake with these engines. I have a 2008 B7 Audi Avant TDI with 92,000 miles and no such problem with the Diesel engine. So be warned don’t buy 2002 to 2013 petrol Audi as he says you are doing your oil change as you run it.👹👹👹👹👹👹👹
I ve done a 4000km trip in my audi a6 2012 3.0 tdi and i had to top it up with 500ml . i knew that some of the cars will consume a few ml of oil even the newer models but i was too lazy to look in the book
First of all check the PCV valve is directly responsible for the oil consumption. Second be sure that it is not loosing it somewhere in the corners of the engine.
You are right 20 years old A3 with 280 K on the clock, oh sorry 180K after correction :D probably was pissing oil all over that's why he was using thicker and thicker oil end op driving on moto doctor :D
@@MotoDoktor01why was there a mileage correction?
My 2011 Audi TT 2.0 L TDI has 48,000 mls on the clock (bought used with 31,000 mls). I do my own servicing and no oil top up is needed in between once a year oil change. Annual mileage is 8,000. I don't think you should be complaining about Audi based on bad experience with one VERY HIGH MILEAGE vehicle.
My subaru wrx 2.5 4 cyl consumes more oil then my 2007 s4 ever did
Yes😀😀
Worthless rant of someone's used car. I currently have 2 Audi's. One with 242,000 miles, another with 117,000 miles and one I sold a few years ago with 275,000 miles to my brother.
The older 2.0 PCV systems dumped a lot of oil in the intake too. I wonder if that was a part of it?
Not sure of the exact year it changed but at least 2017 and newer have a much better PCV system.
I carry extra oil just in case 🤣. Topped it up just a week or two ago. (2016 model with 130,000 km)
That being said I do have a heavy right foot. If I drive conservatively though I can last from service to service without having to top up.
Nah, it's not your heavy foot. These still had the problem in the B8.5 & B9 platforms (so yours') can be these things;
PCV Failure
Plugs & Wires, Ignition Coils, Fuel Injectors
Motor Mounts.
Honestly if I knew that VAG had 24yrs of this problem, I'd have never bought an Audi. My 2014 A5 has been a tank, until it started chugging oil. Then it starting chuggin at low RPMs which progressed into full on injector failure & a bumpy ride from a jumpy engine.
The throttle body also gets carbon buildup, which causes all these other things to happen with it.
Paid $13K for this car, I have no interest in putting in $9K+ in parts & labor to fix their design flaw. Even Kias can make it past 100K. These 2.0 Audis will BRICK at 100K if you don't basically rebuild the whole EPC system & rebuild the entire engine.
Oh s#it, so my A5 heavy oil consumption is a well known issue
@Brianna Columbo audi do a piston and rods fix for free if you have the oil issue, most people dont know because they dont ask. They put in S4 parts which fixes the problem
What year is your A5. There was recall for Audis before 2012
@@dontoni8041 a4 2011, mine was rebuilt in 2016 for free, and had s4 parts put in by audi in the UK.
@@0T13 my A5 2010 was also rebuilt by Audi in 2018. Still consuming oil but way less
@Brianna Columbo have you ever had the turbo rebuilt or the intercooler and hoses replaced? I noticed on a few they had allot of blowby out the exhaust
Well, the huge fines that VW / audi has received for the scam has to be paid from somewhere. This means that the quality has deteriorated very quickly. I recently heard that the (far too weak) chain driven camshaft that also drives the oil pump of a vw (vw golf I believe) just runs in aluminum ..... unbelievable. This means that if the chain drive breaks, it only takes a few seconds and the head is damaged so that the head has to be removed. I have always been an Audi fan but the time when they built good cars ..... your 80s and 90s ..... is over. My next car no audi.
Hi, I just bought Audi A4 2009 and it has same problem of oil burning / consumption. I don't wanna spend money on fixing it, so what's the solution? should I keep filling the engine oil after every 3-4 weeks? Is that okay?
I’m just curious what you ended up doing or how it worked out
Try liqui moly mos2 oil additave supposed to be very good.
When buying vw/audi buy diesel, when buying bmw buy petrol, simple as that!
I'm considering the 1.8tfsi from 2013and on...petrol. Is it a no go?
I own a4 b8 2015., 2.0 tdi, no oil consumption, not shure for 1.8tfsi but i wouldn't buy any newer petrol engine with gdi, mainly because carbon buildup. Today, the rule is, that there is no rule!
I m having a5 SB...year 2015...2.0 tfsi Quattro s-tronic..so far no oil consumption issue
As that youtube toyota tech said, check pil every 5k and you will avoid most of oil burning issues. My Audi only has 35k miles, but it doesnt burn anything on 2.0l, and its tuned as well
There were 2 years of specific 2.0L models that had oil consumption issues. They were corrected. I had an Audi A4 with 275,000 miles and my brother bought for his kids. I currently have a 3.2L Audi A6 with 240,000 miles and a 2014 Audi A6 TDI with 112,000 miles. They go 10,000 miles with maybe 1/2 to 1 quart oil replacment.
Have 3.2 with 230k. Looking at sline 3.0 w 120 but found pending multiple misfires which couldn’t be felt. Just worried plugs and fuel treatment coil packs etc won’t be the solution as mechanic advised was probable. Guy wants me to make an offer today!
More like 20yrs. John.
Thats why I always carried a 4L bottle of 5w30 with my 2.8 v6 and now with my 1.8 tsi aswell! :D Love the cars. As we say in Czechia: "Who lubricates - drives."
What year 1.8 TSI ?
@@22chachalaca 2008 🥲
@@MmANCZ so not a tsi..
@@22chachalaca what do you mean? 🤣 Of course it is a TSI...
@@MmANCZ TFSI
It's not about "cheap materials" or "poor build quality". It's about design issue with oil piston ring, and that's the common problem in new VAG (VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat) TSI engines. If those oil rings are replaced, problem with oil consumption is solved.
I have 2 Audis, old 2.6 and 4.2. and I have no problems with oil consumption at all (both of them are around 280.000 km).
I drive an Audi A4 1.9 tdi B6 130hp. At 8000 km it spend 500grams of oil castrol edge 5/40. The car has 500000 km on it..
1.9 is strong my 2.0 tdi 140 is shit engine full of carbon egr filter dsg turbo problems unstoppable replaced them twice now at 330.000 km
I've got the exact same oil consumption on mine, same engine
Well i think that the 1.9 engine is the best
Bogs Bonny its 300k km what the fuck u think its never gonna break?? The avg car nowadays lives 200k km before dying
I also owned a few 1.9 tdi’s great engines. I also currently own a Volvo V70 D5. Man those D5’s are good engines, mine has 436000. It still runs like new.
Every engine burn oil by design through the crankase gases especially when driven in very hard condition when oil gets hot
not 1L in 1000Km !!!
@@MrAvant123 that is correct
My brother had the same car as yours which he purchased brand new and he managed to slow the consumption problem by using Motul Sport Ester 5W-50 oil. As you said 10W - 60 was to thick which he tried and settled for Motul. Great oil.
Castrol sells 20 w 50 w zinc
English PLEASE
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@@senghji4293 de acum posteaza si pe asta si pe ala...mai degraba il paraseste pe asta decat pe celelalt
99Vehicles Hi! I have exactly this problem with my Golf 5 1.6 petrol engine with 172000 km. My engine is consuming 1L/1500 km using 10W40 Castrol oil.
Mazda rx8’s are thirsty when it comes to oil.
Alfa twin spark engine was variable in its usage
The viscosity of the oil breaks down. The burning gives you room to put some in.
Rx8 is made to consume oil as it has special oil feed for apex seals. To prevent more damage. Is just how them engines work.
The engineering was about building absolescence on their cars, which they did a pretty good job of it.
Obsolutely
More money for VW and the dealerships... that's for sure. Oh, and the oil companies. They win, you lose.
Perhaps you didn't know that Audi had some consumption problems in some cars. They changed pistons in those cars for free.
Also, any time a customer is low on oil an Audi dealer tops it off for free.
The idea of a "scam" is to make money, not lose it.
Of course it's a scam, how much cars do you know within the warranty range that ACTUALLY WENT a and got engine rebuilds done by the tsb for this problem?... Not many... Guaranteed Audi engineers knew this wild create planned obsolescence... They have roadmap for a reason, the 2001 engines are super reliable, suddenly they don't just stop being reliable until they try to skirt on engineering and choose the bad option so they can work up to the perfect option and sell cars every year which are slightly more reliable than the last gen...
@@Yvqi72 You don't know what you are talking about. Why would anyone create a scam that made the company lose money?
Audi replaced the pistons in thousands of vehicles at no cost. I know because I work at an Audi dealer. They were replacing pistons every day and still do. They still pay for it in some cases. And the cars were out of warranty.
And you seem to think that Audi makes all the parts for their engines. That isn't how it works. There are many different manufacturers that make parts for the Auto industry.
You are making no sense.
I can tell you about why the oil problems exists on VW AG engines.
Lack of running in process in the first kilometres of the car when new. No matter how close to perfectly round the cylinders are drilled at the factory, there are minute imperfections in the cylinder wall. By using top gear on the motorway and going from 2000rpm (90km/h) to 3000rpm (160km/h) rapidly (full throttle) and then letting the car compression brake back down to 90 or 100 km/h, the rings will be compressed under load, and press firmly against the cyclinder wall. You car might use 0.25 to 0.5 L in the run in process, but after that, no / minimal / usual consumption (until piston rings worn out).
No one is scamming you out of engine oil. Why the inflammatory title? My B7 A4 was doing fine without any appreciable oil consumption, up until the PCV valve failed in the open state a short while ago, causing so much pressure that oil is now leaking a bit. My Audi is quite old now being made in 2005. It has to do with the piston rings and the amount of exhaust gases building up. It's not just Audis that have this problem, but there are several things that can fail that can cause the engine to burn or leak oil. He is correct, it's not normal, but I am suggesting that his Audi had some issue that he didn't know about, or that he's not telling us about. Either way, he said that he had no major problems with his A3, so why is he worried? Why didn't he try to find the solution before selling it? Now it's someone else's problem I guess. Maybe it's just me, but I would not sell a car without telling the new owner what's going on with it, especially if I felt strongly enough to make a CZcams video of it.
Before owning an Audi I never heard of a car even burning any oil.
Not "normally" anyways.
@lasthope703
"dip stick" yeah you wish. Not anymore on the newer audis. Even my 2014 a4 didn't come with a dip stick. Had to buy one.
lasthope703 there’s no dip stick in it
My 2015 a5 doesn't, matter of fact the oil was full when I changed the oil for its regular 10k miles
@lasthope703 the a4 from 2008 didnt have a dipstick, i took the one off my a3 1.6 to use on it
Blocked ENGINE breather will make it use oil crank case pressure build up check this first
Actually a known issue with successful Class Actions brought against Audi.
James Latimer Hey, can you explain more into detail?
@@nickcucu2135
Possibly reffering to the PVC Valve.. located top of engine, circular shaped
I’m driving audi for 25 years, they made all over 330.00km with oil consumption of 1l / 15000km.
So guess what? You bought the wrong engine! Go for the big engines, they last forever.
I drive a 2017 Audi a6 with stage 2 apr 100 tune pushing over 533hp. I have no problems but I change my oil every 10k miles with amsoil.... so maybe why its better. 😆
My Audi does exactly that, mine is 2016 eats oil every 500 miles 1litre every time, got the car on 22k miles done over 100k on it and I’ve got this issue so annoyed
Yes, but you forgot one really important think and it is in Germany drivers drive the cars like a man. 1.4lit engine 160km/h...
1.6engine 180km/h and if you drive so all the time on highway in 160oookm...you can't miss oil consumption... LOL
Hard to drive an audi like a man when its breaking down every time you hit the starter to go for a ride .
The thing is that this started a long time ago.. At least from 2000.. and even back. But when direct injection was introduced at vw group then the oil burning became so much more obvious!
B8.5 has the exact same problem so it didn't end in 2014 lol
My dad bought his A6 2.0 TFSI 2009 brand new. It took about 2L oil in 15 000km. In 2014 I bought the car from him and changed to 5W-40 and it takes about 1-1.5L in 15 000km. Thing is, the car has now 210 000km and it consumes just as much oil as it did when it was brand new. I'm guessing it's by design(Not a good design though) :) But still that is acceptable.
His previous Audi A4 B7 1.8T did not consume a drip of oil in 15 000km
It is purposely designed like that
Thought I got a lemon 2011 a4...nope.theyre all lemons. Well I guess I'll do myself a favor and put in new piston rings...after I put the new vacuum pump on.after I fix the broken clips that hold my coils together. Oh yeah I'm gonna need another quart of oil after I drive around to buy my parts..
thats what its like huh
i feel you. my A3 requires me half of me free time and half of the distance driven, just to keep owning it. it makes no sense as a car.
What is the proud owner of an Audi Q5, 2014. Started eating oil to the tune of 1 quart every 400 miles! How Audi did acknowledge the problem and was willing to come up with 4/5 of the total to have the piston and rings done. The dealership however refused to cover their repair should something go wrong.
What a joke the Audi dealer was and what a joke Audi is for allowing these cars to consistently have these problems.
Vote Audi out by never buying their products ever again and let them know that. Hopefully they will suffer the same fate as Holden in Australia. I will never buy a VAG product ever again after the fuck around I have received from VW with oil consumption.
have the exact same issue with my q5 2014 .
you dont need to correct your english :) confidence is a better image than perfect english - language isn't THAT important, if you know what you're talking about :)
His english is good enough, a lot of idiots are talking because they think they are special! Do not forget boys, for some of you is the first language, for this guy is the secondary! Most of you can’t say a fuck old in a foreign language. Keep calm and carry on mate, you doing a very good job!✌️
@@florescuvalentin6447 true bro , knowledge is the real treasure here, language is just a medium to pass the info.
100% you didn't used a esther based oil I see. Just try it. Every single DI eats oils more than normal.
hi my 2010 audi a4 have burning oil ,its not bad for the engine ? i should change the oil evrey 6 monthes
Hello. In which engine models does this happen?
From reading comments... sounds like EVERY VW 0_o
Just to let you know in the USA Audi was sued in 2012 and lost they extended the warranty to 8 years 80,000 miles the effected years are 2008 to 2012 you can google it and easily see what triply is going on and they do have a fix they replace your piston rings with the upgraded correct rings this is the real reason these cars use so much oil so yes it’s because the wrong piston rings where used in the block build it all is listed in the law suite also all you have to do is request the information under the freedom of information act. And if you ask me how I know I owned a 09 and had my engine repaired.
I HAVE A 2009 A4 2.0 SAME ISSUE !!!!! EPC LIGHT , ADD A QT THEN CONTINUE DRIVING , ROUGH DRIVE & ROUGH IDLE !!!! Help
Once they replace the piston rings is the issue fixed? One of my coworkers is selling their 2012 Audi A4 with under 50,000 miles for $9,000. I was planning on purchasing this for my little sister's upcoming 16th birthday because this is an excellent price, but an engine repair in the future will be costly.
Jackson Walter it has to be 80,000 or less and 8 years or less to qualify for the warranty repair and they have a strict test they do to determine if it’s even covered, if it’s not it’s all up to you and that’s what happen to me and to rebuild the engine and turbo 13,500 is what mine came too.
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@@90integ Thank you for your insight. After listening to your advice, I think I'll pass on the vehicle. It's already over than 8 years old even though it has less than 50,000 miles. With the constant worry about the engine breaking, the possible high oil consumption, and a potential repair that costs more than the car itself, it's simply not worth it. I really appreciate the help!
Do you know if A5 2017 2 litter petrol has the same problem?
Biggest bullshit I ever heard about, I'm working with Audi's for over 20 years on a daily basis and never had a 1.6 normal aspirated engine consumption problem, it was mainly on Tfsi engines and only in certain years of production.
I had a 2007 2.0T A4 that lasted me almost 10 years from 65k to 220k until it was totaled in an accident, it burned 1L every 5000+km all the way up until it was tuned with 1.24Bar of boost. I think the B8 engines had a few more issues with oil consumption, I can only speak for engines offered in North America but they seemed to do ok up until 2009
that was good rate
I had the same car
No oil issues
I have a 2013 Q5 and when I bought 3 years ago I noticed that it was consuming oil. I thought maybe there was leak but no signs of leaks could be detected. When I asked the dealer as I took it for service they told me it was normal for it to “use”a 1/4 per 1000 miles. I overlooked to be honest but now the car needs a 1/4 every 500 to 600 miles. I heard that Audi has honored the engine repair as they were sued for this in Class a action law suit. Is anyone familiar with this?
the dealership will honor cars under 8yr/80k with failed oil consumption test
I just bought a 2013 Q5 as well. And burns about a quart per 600 too. I don’t know what to do..
Jane O I have a 2013 Audi Q5 too, but it has 127k miles on it. so does that mean dealership wouldn’t cover my repair?
Use a quart of 20w50 to top it off
@@Hawaiianguy1 No, you must pay everything at own, because they garantied until 100 000 km at motor, but on some parts til' 10000. In my case, I must change clutch at my own at 60000, because clutch have garanty til 10000, theater with these brand...
The beauty of having to add oil between oil changes is that you are technically trimming the oil charge , that can prolong engine life and prevent for further damage.
I’ve seen guys use that B-12 gunk remover and getting rid of the problem , but it varies in all cases , some people succeed and some don’t.
I had the same problem with my AUDI 1.4 TFSI 2012 Model. Fortunately, I had read about a class action Law-Suit against Audi in the USA concerning this problem. They were found guilty of having used very weak material for pistons on a certain batch of Engines. Audi here in RSA told me "it was normal" for my car to be guzzling oil. I refused and made them replace all the pistons. This was a car which I bought brand-new and was only 3 years old at the time. The problem is now over.
Thanks for that info, did they have to replace it at no cost to you under the class action lawsuit?
@@Fbxbill, yes, in that US Class Action no cost was incurred by the car owners, according to what I read. I referred to this, which is why I paid nothing too.
audi is bringing the 2stroke era back again
Lol
I had a 40 year old Toyota which consumed about 1 l every 10.000 km. That's normal.
What you described is simply not!
Lol. And it started doing that at 35 years old I bet. Thats NORMAL!
My 2013 Audi Q5 started running out of oil after about 4 fuel ups. It also started misfiring I guess due to carbon build up however, I now add Lucas every oil change and it retains most if not all the oil. The only problem I've had is rough idle in the winter.
Synthetic Oil Stabilizer? I was thinking about throwing Lucas into my B8 to help with the consumption
My 2012 Audi A4 at 45k miles was using 1 liter every 500 miles. Audi agreed to pay half the bill for new rings and pistons. Oil consumption has been reduced. This will be my last Audi.
I wonder why didn't cover all with it being under 8yr/80k mi
Jane O I assume because the model year of 2012 and above was not covered with the class action lawsuit that included the 2009-2011 years. I think it will just be a matter of time before Audi addresses the 2012-2015 model year with the same lawsuit.
I have a 2013 3.0tfsi with no oil consumption issues. 7l go in and 7l come out 5,000 miles later
7 liters is a lot of oil but hey it works right?
@@jamesmedina2062 spec is 6.8l... 7 wont hurt
I'll save everyone 6 minutes of their life...Audi bad, Subaru good.
Sure, if you like being slow
I drove french cars. Never had a problem with oil consumption. Even after 200.000 km.
Same here. The Renaults i had never lost oil between changes and I did loads of miles. That was with the K4M and M9R engines. The same with my Merc W204 OM646EVO after putting 160k miles on it and was still on original turbo etc and no oil consumption. Now in a A3 EA211 ultra and it uses a little between changes
@@kingofthewestmidlands4049 Too much horsepower nowadays.
It’s not just Audi all modern turbo cars consume excessive amount of oil due to government imisions👍🏻
No, they don't. Ive had several different modern turbo cars, both petrol and diesel. They don't use oil at the rate of VAG engines.
@@paula200 when you say modern what year are you referring to???
I carry 4 litres of Magnatec in the boot just in case, in my Nissan Leaf.
I carry a gallon of engine coolant in my air cooled Porsche - at least in my dreams.
I have rebuilt completely an Audi 2.0tfsi engine from a 2010 Audi A4 with new rings and all. No oil burning afterwards. The key to saving your engine is changing oil at 3k miles and not at 5k or greater. This is the biggest factor for carbon build up on the rings causing them to fail.
My daily smoker is a 2010 1.8 TSI CDAA engine that has used a lot of oil from new. Over the last year, consumption has suddenly ramped up to just 288 miles per litre. The weird thing is that it has recently passed the emissions test and does not noticeably smoke. I guess that the Cat must look like a diesel particle filter by now but its still working. As a fix, I am just about to fit new Kloben Schmidt 40251600 pistons which are the BZB pistions with the 21mm pins and new style and larger rings. That saves me from having to change the conrods to 23mm which are massively expensive and I don't trust the poverty pattern rods. The new pistons are £270 inclusive for 4 from KMotorshop.
Audi is inventing the two stroke engine. If I saw 1L/ 500km in the Owner's Manual, I could not leave the dealership fast enough. ( And never return...)
Well your Subaru will just leak out most of the oil , so you replaced one problem with another 🤷...
Seen a couple of your vids...where are you from? UK here where VW, Audi, BMW, Merc are all very popular. Asian brands just don't have the same style - even though I know they're probably better quality. I don't wish to drive a bath tub 😁
He is from Romania. He also have a romanian chanel where he teaches romanians about car maintanance mostly.
my Civic was made in the UK in Swindon and it is not a bathtub but was not refined either as they were cutting costs on my model, unlike the pricier Type R. The Accords are way nicer overall but are bigger. Why don't they sell Accords in England?? I don't get it. You guys don't get and like Lexus cars? And what about Peugeot and Renault? They are more reliable than Germans
I have an Audi 2012 with 2.0TFSI engine and now 114.7k miles. At 80K it began consuming oil abnormally, at 100K it was eating 1 QT every 350-400 miles. At 112.7k miles, I did a Berryman's B12 piston soak via the spark plug port, I took my time and rented another car for a week and also went on a trip, two weeks time and repeated treatment, rotate and soak. Then I did liquimoly engine flush and replaced oil. I have now driven 2000 miles and guess what, no abnormal oil consumption and car is working great, highway MPG 27+ on I-95 from NC to NY this past week, in and about town 21MPG. Obviously this doesn't correct the design issues however I now have a procedure that will extend the life and performance of this vehicle for another 40K miles where I predict that I will need to replace the timing chain.
I drove my 2010 A5 2.0 TDI 8000km now and didn't have any missing oil while driving mostly on the Autobahn
It's now at ~171000km
What engine oil do u use?
@@wanbee3635 not sure wich one rn I'll tell you in like 10 hours when I'm back at my car
@@kripto999 oh...not necessary to check...lm not gonna trouble u...it is ok...thanks
burn oil keeps exhaust lubed :))
and GDI keeps the intake nice and lubed up... like dirty bbq grill
All cars consume oil dude! The difference is only the quantity consumed. For some is almost nothing like your Subaru others is too much like the audi
Sorry to bother you but some doesnt. I have om602.984 in sprinter. It has over 628 thousand kilometres with only glowplugs and cylinder 1 injector replaced. Doesnt use any oil. I do oil at 10 thousand kilometres with good quality oil and its never below max. No need to add any oil it doesnt use any.
My 2009 Mazda 2 1.5 has 130.000km and does not consume any oil at all. It's been almost 10.000km since I last changed the oil and the level is still on full! My mother's 2010 Renault Clio 1.2 16v has 120.000km and consumes about 0.5-1l for every oil change (which she does at 20.000km cause she only drives to work and back on country roads, so the engine is under very little stress). I think the reason why a lot of newer cars, especially ones with small turbo engines consume a lot of oil is because manufacturers are making engines with looser tolerances in order to achieve a cheap and easy way to reduce friction inside the engine and get slightly better fuel economy and emission figures. But this, as I said, a "cheap and easy" was of doing it. Not a good way.
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Mazda: hold my Wankel...
Dacia Logan 1.4 8v doesn't " drink" any oil on 828.707 km...... Taxi car.... Just start on petrol.... After that runs on LPG.....
08 Accord 2.4L (170k km) after 10,000km oil is still full, I love Japanese Vehicles.
My old Vauxhall Astra diesel did exactly the same, and I was advised by two Vauxhall engineers from two separate garages that this was “absolutely normal”.
Timing belt at 36000 miles?
He bought it at 100k, so maybe he meant after driving it 36k?
My Audi A6 4.2 V8 335hp 2005 consumed something around 1l/1000km. I'm glad I sold it.
Got the same, as long as it is normal... sort of... or cannot be improved, shall we say, then I am ok.
Why lol oil consumption is not a big deal anyway
I used to use Liqui Moly Leichtlauf 5W40 in my 2014 S4 and would have to add ~2 liters in between oil changes (which I do every 10,000 km or so). The last oil change I did, I used OEM Volkswagen 502.00/505.00, and from the time that I added the oil to the time that I drained it for my next change, the oil level gauge in my MMI dropped by maybe 1cm at most, so I'm guessing it only burned 1/4 or 1/5 of a liter over those 10,000 km. My brother uses Liqui Moly in his 2010 A5, though, and it consumes very little in between changes, around the same amount as my S4. Really it seems like you just need to try different brands until you find one your car likes. (Both cars are at ~120,000 km btw)
I use Amzoil in my Mk7 golf. I don’t think I’ve ever had issues with consumption. I’m gonna go check now though.
lol I was thinking the same thing, same car
I'm gonna be using Castrol Edge since my owner's manual recommends Castrol. It's under warranty still.
My A4 B8 had the 1l per 1000km oil issue. I got the engine replaced via warranty and since then no issues. I own the car since 2010 & have done 190,000km.
And they still want to suggest a 10k mike oil change interval 😂
Yeah, well BMW with the new petrol cars suggest 28000km oil change intervals. IMO thats stupid, Im doing oil changes every year or 10k km.
I do my oil changes when it gets med to dark brown. My last car was a 20 yr old Toyota, did my own oil changes 245,000kms. No burning issues. My current car 25 yr old Honda at 232,000kms again no issues with burning oil. Sure the oil has protective capabilities but contaminants in the oil acts like sandpaper on engine parts. Nobody I know changes oil the way I do.
They follow manufacturers advice.
Manufacturers aren't expecting you to keep the car forever, it's just gotta last the warranty period and it looks good on paper that minimal maintenance should be done.
Auto critics sometimes mention it's cheaper to own as maintenance is not high.
It’s 20k pretty much on every VAG and BMW product is it not?
A two stroke would need about the same quantity for 10,000km 7.5l/100km 😂
:)))
Long time BMW owner enters the chat:
"Is that all?"
Vote Audi out by never buying their products ever again and let them know that. Hopefully they will suffer the same fate as Holden in Australia. I will never buy a VAG product ever again after the fuck around I have received from VW with oil consumption.
The 1.6 engine in the A3\VW Golf is notorious for burning big amounts of oil.. you had a very good one if it only burned 1l per 3000km xD. However this is not the case with all Audi engines.. I drive TDIs and I can tell you if you have a maintained car with a 1.9TDI engine, you will have the same amount of oil that you put in, when you drain it. You shoudn't have bought the 1,6 in first place.. the 1.9 TDI in same car is faster, way more reliable and goes way more miles, burns half the fuel and if maintained burns no Oil. The 1.6 is rendered useless by the 1.9TDI.
We had two 1.6 diesels in the A3 and Golf, the cars never needed any extra oil ever…40k miles on the golf and 30k on the Audi. Only one service on the A3 and 2 on the golf I believe before it was sold
@@Horizon301. I am pretty sure we are talking about the 1.6l petrol engine not the TDI.
@@upload9595 I assumed you were talking about the 1.6TDI not being as good as the 1.9. My bad
Glad someone made a video about this. Imagine how often people open their bonnet nowadays, and ruin an engine in 5000 km then :-O
The car tells you if you're low on oil right between the gauges. not a little light either. big warning "low on oil".
@@LBCAndrew that light was broken... my friend blow up his engine.....
@@nlluke5207 what year was that car 😳
@@A1.4U 2002 I think
My 2003 Audi a4 3.0v6 eats oil. But the 6spd and beautiful revs up to 4k on an engine with 180k miles still sounds amazing. My mechanic still scratches his head at how the motor is still mint. I told him 4-5k revs are the limit. No use taking it to the 8k it’ll take