I got the Mario Kart DS Beta Cartridge
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- čas přidán 28. 09. 2023
- I got my hands on a prototype version of Mario Kart DS - let's explore it!
This is the Mario Kart DS "USA Kiosk Demo", a demo version of MKDS from before the game released with only certain tracks playable, but it contains many interesting and strange differences from the final release. There's also a ton of unused content in the cartridge, ranging from early versions of tracks, cut tracks, graphics of removed items, menus and more! Let's take a look at what it has to offer...
Big thanks to The Cutting Room Floor for documenting the unused content and many of the changes covered in this video. I didn't go over absolutely everything there is to the Mario Kart DS Kiosk Demo, so if you want to learn more about it (or more about cut content from other games) then I highly recommend checking them out: tcrf.net/Proto:Mario_Kart_DS/...
Credit to SaltRad for the Donkey Kong Dancing green screen. - Hry
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Quick correction about the Shroom Ridge van: L and R don't sound similar to each other in Japanese because they don't separately exist in the language. There's only a sound that's basically a hybrid between our L and R.
Thanks to Noble_Trash for pointing this out!
Thanks for the clarification
Also the file name for piranha plant pipeline is called “mob_dk” which stands for “Mobile Dokan”.
Lmao nice edit😂(didnt address it at all, and this isnt a comedy channel), but seriously what did u pay for that?
The Japanese L/R sound is in English sometimes as a t/d sound which is neato :O
Every so often I remember it and it's crazy to me that the entire Japanese language just doesn't have the "L" sound (or the "V")
FUN FACT: The DS Modding Community found this kiosk cart in 2005, it was documented a lot before many tools existed for opening DS files, without them it probably wouldn't have been documented for years.
we? Where were you in this
@@baddumtiss6541 I mean the DS community
@@baddumtiss6541 why act so hostile...?
We were also responsible for building two nuclear bombs and sending them to japan. I mean, the american community. Where's the money and fame?
@@wertyxq3468 i'm responsible for shitting
Heres a fun fact: 3DS Toad Circuit's layout is actually a mirrored layout of dokan_course, so if you play 150cc mirror on Toad Circuit, you're basically playing dokan_course's layout, just not the map entirely
This was a really interesting watch, great video!
I want a Mario Kart DS Beta cartridge of my own now hahah
WOW your here awesome.
They pop up quite regularly
I use to watch magmamusin and your minecraft videos almost daily nice to see a legend in 2023
@@jytvrealsame here back in ~2013.
Oo
Imagine if these kinds of beta games were far more common, it'd be really cool. It's kinda bizarre seeing a game I grew up with being so different.
There are many early builds of games I wish we knew more about... Really hope more end up surfacing in the future, bet that Mario Galaxy E3 2006 build is hiding a lot of interesting stuff...
@@dylanbanning Found it on eBay
@@dylanbanning No, and I can't see any on eBay right now but I'm sure if you check every week or so you'll eventually find one. They usually ain't cheap though, so keep that in mind
@@Toadfanfr
@@dylanbanning There's an upload of it on the Internet Archive.
Prototypes are interesting, as seeing what games looked like in development
Hi!
@@NaraSherkohi
Water is wet
i don't know why but the "FLESH" van is just absolutely hilarious to me
*F L E S H*
FLESH VAN
Got my hands on one of these almost 10 years ago for a little over $70. Curious as to whether that was cheaper or more expensive then what you got it for. Regardless, I had so much fun discovering what tracks initially/could of looked like when I plugged it in my Action Replay and entered David’s cheat codes. Was crazy to play it in hand and I spent hours going around the pipe course
They're definitely more expensive these days, so you got lucky. It's cool hearing someone else's experience with the kiosk demo though, playing these older tracks and seeing what could have been is really fascinating
I also got this cart around a decade ago for fairly cheap! Cool to know it's still out there and still of interest to people.
With the pink shell at 15:15, I've seen pink be used as a kind of placeholder colour before, so it's possible they were just using it as a base to apply a green or red colour to. They could have been planning on using the same file for similar textures or just using the pink shell as a starting point when creating shell textures. (Correct me if I'm wrong this is pure speculation)
It looks like the shells of the new Mario Wonder Koopas
It remembers me alot of New Super Mario Bros Ds (dang long name)
Maybe some cheat code? some glitch? some game file? or maybe its just the low quality image
@@Antonio-vf2xj As far as I know there was no purple shelled koopa in the original NSMB. Why does the purple shell remind you of it?
@@romancatholicgameing oh i guess because the sprite resolution is similar to the blue shell in nsmb, and AS FAR AS I REMEMBER the purple shell was a placeholder, the first version of the blue shell which then was recolored blue, it isn't in the game itself, but in the game files maybe, developers may have left that there accidentally or something, same thing to mario kart ds
This video is really good, the editing is great and I enjoyed everything you covered! Also the script is really good!
Mario Kart DS beta version is probably one of my favorite early builds.
It’s always cool to see this kind of thing. Great video!
It’s the dude!
Waluigi Pinball being originally named after Luigi makes quite a lot of as he had a casino in Super Mario 64 DS.
Good point, now I want a Luigi casino minigame-themed track haha
Finally, a video about an *actual* beta build cart, and not just a standard "not for sale" kiosk demo build that's basically just the final version with things taken out. And what do you know, it's for a game I spent many, *many* hours playing with friends as a kid. Congrats on getting a physical copy!
Oh by the way, I suspect that a lot of the visual details in the beta build that are absent in the final game were probably removed not out of a fear of memory or space or anything, but for design reasons. With a screen as small as the original DS's was, you generally want to minimize how much visual noise you have so that players with poorer eyesights can still make out what's going on. I suspect this is the reason for the moving paintings, Lakitu's shadow,
That's a good theory!
Man, the editing of this video is AMAZING. Even in 17:21 you can see "Mockup" on the top left, love this details!
I've had the demo since literally years and never knew you could zoom in and out of the mini map 💀
The cartridge icon of this uses the MarioKart DoubleDash model as well as a red recolor of Toad's kart from the same game
Your editing is so clean now, worth the wait!
This was such a cool video! The editing is on point, and as a massive fan of this game, seeing all of this was awesome!
I always wonder what was inside the kiosks or how there played on them
Well now you know!
Also im first
@@z-fam2013👉🚪
Gosh, you are so lucky to own such a rare item. I truly hope you keep it in your collection, and be sure not to lose it!
What's with the cleaning rubber gloves?
I'm guessing it's so the game does not get dirty in the slightest. It would be a shame for the demo to get damaged and quit working.
“idk he never did do the dishes”
That’s no scratch game. Jokes aside, really well done video man! I’m now very sad about E Gadd though.
E Gadd deserves better, lets hope he gets the same treatment as Kamek someday...
I'm actually really glad you made a video on this. A friend of mine and I were literally looking at this demo on eBay a few weeks ago talking about it and were disappointed to not find any in-depth look at it online really at all, and I wasn't bothered to buy it since it was so expensive. It's super cool to see someone else express an interest in it and actually go in-depth about it. Very good video!
Davidevgen is a LEGEND - i literally would’ve never gotten into action replay codes or modding or even game development in general if not for being inspired and awestruck by the awesome codes he made and shared on the ol’ forums ^^
Omg - SUPASTARRIO TOO (@ 11:50 or so), seeing them appear in a video unexpectedly is so cool ahahah
Same! I actualy talk to him on Discord do you want his tag?
You will never understand how so many people loved the kiosk demo, that people would take the Yoshi statue and put it in other games.
Because the music is better
4:09 I've thought for going on 20 years that that voice clip was just Mario giggling and thought it was oddly out of place. This is the first time I've seen it transcribed as an actual sentence, that makes so much more sense lmao
Dang awesome editing, didn't expect this from a smaller creator. Nice vid!
I remember you from back in the day on Scratch! I was one of the people on the Scralaxy Team.
This is a really good video by the way, I love the editing and it's very informative too. Keep it up!
Thanks! Recognise you too :)
Put this video on while going to bed- didn't expect it to hold my attention all the way through! Great editing and coverage, thanks for showcasing this cool info.
I like how this channel is the perfect balance between goofy and serious
they ended up going for a more futuristic (at the time) vibe to the game compared to Double Dash's cartooniness. Makes sense for the DS
I was laughing my ass off when you put Space Race in the background when you said "The Nintendo Vault" at 12:01, nice video!
Ayy someone noticed haha
I looked at your channel and thought it said 5.25M, and I totally believed it. Your editing skills, research skills, and interest in this topic shines and you are definitely on your way to a successful channel imo
12:33 OOooo that actually makes sense because Luigi works as a dealer in a casino.
Yatsee?
So if you're curious why it is that dk pass music is so much different than the final it's because it originally wasn't a snowy course. It was just the jungle course
Tbh, a jungle version of DK Pass would be better
oh my god, I was a huge fan of your Scratch games when I was younger, so good to see you on CZcams as well! great video man!
Yoshi Falls😭 and literally falls from the screen 9:46 😭😂
I love your projects and quality videos, keep up the good work!
Great vid!! Super informative and extremely well edited.
Oh I am SO GLAD this blew up, you deserve it!
"I spent a lot on this" *1$*
*$9999.99 shipping*
This video is very good, I also own a copy of the kiosk demo and yeah your right about it being pricey that’s for sure 😂 but keep up the amazing work man
I own that demo too. Found mine at a yardsale.
That’s crazy
This is the first time I've seen a video of yours and was so impressed! I was a Scratch kid and loved playing your games years ago. It's so cool to see what you've moved on to.
Video was incredible well made! Keep it up man
I like watching your videos, it's fun and I actually enjoyed your videos!
Fun fact: the mario kart ds booklet that comes with the box also uses the old double dash sprites
This stuff fascinates me as well :) Awesome video! ^^
Loved the editing gags in this one btw
wario endlessly falls into a void.mp4
Awesome video! I love the editing!
Idk how you only have 5k subs your vids are really high quality and entertaining
i already knew about the Beta and the stuff it had, but Toadfan this video absolutely ROCKS! keep it up!
i remember this r4 i had was pre-loaded with the kiosk demo and that was so cool to me! it was what sparked my interest in pre-release games, modding, ect
imagine if this was originally just mario kart double dash ds because there is so many stuff from mkdd
First time watching your videos. Loved the editing ❤
I love the DS, golden era of the handhelds!
A really well made and fun video to watch!! Ty!!
Just randomly got recommended a video from someone who's games I played on Scratch a long time ago, but I'm glad because this video's actually pretty good.
absolutely loved this video ! WE DEMAND MORE LIKE THIS
Lovely video btw, really well made! keep it up ^^
17:11 That's my ringtone, I'll be back to the video after I take this call hold on
glad to have found someone also intrested in early versions of games.
I probably spend days of my life on the cutting room floor or on youtube videos about early versions/betas of games
10:50 finally a mentioning of the hit game ARMS in 2023
awesome video man! :D
this is so cool to see, mario kart ds holds a special place in my heart
Very funny and interesting video, I subbed!
awesome video! keep up the great work! :)
This is a really well edited video! When did you get yours? I got outbid in July and it would be funny if it was this one
I got mine back in December, so that wouldn't have been me
I'd love to see a rom hack of the release version that changes things to be more in the demo's style, finishing cut courses and characters and the like.
there already is, it's been in developement since 2011
Ooo, so excited to watch this! I got this cart when I was younger and it’s still my favorite rare not for resale/beta content I own. 😁
The GCN mario circut is the beta version (But in the final it lacks the chain chomp) and has goombas i beleive idk i haven't played mario kart ds for 9 years.
As a kid we'd all use my cheat cartridge to load up one of the unused levels and race together on them in multiplayer.
I became very good at navigating the no texture Mario Circuit and it was our favourite track to play due to its inherent difficulty.
Interesting to see that a lot of early mkds was just borrowing a lot from double dash. Makes sense since it was the most recent game before it. Shame we never got to see chain chomp become a staple though
This video makes me want to replay MarioKart DS again.
4:35
Lmao That’s a spot on comparison. Good ear 👍
the video editing and your script is really funny and engaging lmao, it was neat! loved seeing all the subtle and major changes of the game. and i think i laughed harder than i shouldve at the "yoshi falls" part
ive also always wondered why final games keep their unused/unfinished files... not that i know anything about game design and all that intricate stuff but wouldnt it be nicer to remove all that "bloat" from the final thing? im not complaining though, because then we wouldnt have cool videos like this 😳
Glad you enjoyed :) About the unused files, I'd have to guess its either because Nintendo just forgot about them or didn't see the point of deleting them, as the file size of MKDS didn't really matter as long as it was below the max capacity of a standard DS cartridge. So say for example all the "used" content of MKDS took up half the capacity of a DS cartridge, having some unused tracks or models left in there doesn't really make a difference, unless there's many, many of them. I don't think this sort of thing mattered too much until downloading games directly to consoles became widely adopted, though we do still see unused content in more recent games for whatever reason, e.g. the "Giga Mushroom" inside Bowser's Fury.
Fun Fact: The Chain Chomp item is still in the roulette in the final game. However, you just can't use it.
It’s pretty impressive that you got your hands on a prototype cartridge of Mario Kart DS
FUN FACT: the character icons on the player select screen are 34x34 vs the final 32x32
Toadfan: I'm glad we got the goofier sounding Donkey Kong we all know and love instead
Dashie: Yeah sure
bro why tf are your videos so good
Hey, I found out the reason why there is a shell that's pink (maybe). So uhm, in the nes when you wanted to draw a sprite to the screen and you wanted it to have transparency you put a color that will semnalate that it dosen't exist. Usually devs use the color pink (the type of pink from that shell) to do that as it's not usually used in games. Maybe they wanted to go with a simpler route, to just change that color into another one (like red or green) for more storage and performance. I don't know how to check the files of a rom, but i estimate there is not a green shell and red shell. If there are the green and red shell that means maybe it was supposed to be used as a new item but it just got scrapped. I belive it was releated to the poison in new super mario bros. Working like a red shell but affected a little bit more.
Anyway, I really enjoyed this video, you should make more of these! I suggest Super Mario 64!
i like how a lot mario kart games resembles the game before it in the beta stage in many ways
what happened to ds with double also happened with wii and ds with being similar to ds at the beginning
Off topic, but the drawing part at 3:38 sent a surge of nostalgia through me, I totally forgot you could do that in Mario Kart for the DS!
9:58 I respect it because he pointed out why he said it that way
I swear I had a conversation with this lad in tesco once
It's so cool to collect things as valuable like these
14:21 This track was actually the inspiration for piranha plant pipeline in mario kart tour because of how many similarities they share
That’s so cool! I’d love to have a piece of Nintendo history like this
Very small thing to compliment ik but I love how this guy calls design elements on the cartridge "badges". It's pretty a cute, understandable and unusual(at least to me) word choice
06:39 If they ever remake DS Figure-8 Circuit I want this to be the theme (while the other one can still be used for Mario Circuit).
Besides, they did something like this before with Wii U's remake of GBA Mario Circuit (they did a jazz rendition of the beta theme but in B-Flat)
Thank you for your approach on this video!
I'm so sick of tons of super padded videos with tons of worthless speculation thrown in, obnoxious reaction cuts/skits, fake enthusiasm, obscenely long backstory/intro that doesn't matter, etc. You showed us what you found, showed footage or sprites when applicable, and kept the "fluff" to a tasteful minimum. And not only that, but you present everything concisely and and in a logical way.
Also, kudos for credits and referencing TCRF. That site is amazing.
Anyway, mini-rant aside, I mean to say I love the way you put this video together. Thank you!
Very cool to see the beta cartridge! Looks like they polished quite a bit, and give it more of a DS rather than Gamecube aesthetic.
There's a lot of things in the prototype version I wish had made it to the final game: E.Gadd, the purple shell, the chain chomp, the bowser shell, Nokonoko_Course, Dokan_Course, SEQ_Circuit 2 and quite a bit more. I'm glad GCN Mario Circuit and Block City were cut as the former got a better remake in Wii and the latter would've been most likely ruined.
This games Beta is very interesting to hear about 🤔. It's like seeing a game that I always have grown up to play every second of the day in my childhood and seeing what it would of have looked like is just so interesting to me and I'm pretty sure alot of people who grew up with the game like me may say the same to. By the way they kept that green background for character select for the multiplayer lobby room in the final 👍
What an unexpected banger I’ve stumbled upon
This was a super cool video. W
What makes the demo better than the final
1. The physics when you bump into another character seems pretty smooth.
2. I wish they kept the Double Dash styled items because it was cool.
3. The music has better sound quality including the brass and drums.
4. I wish they kept the title logo because it has an old stylized logo.
Whenever I play the kiosk demo I always forget that the drifting sucks and you can’t draft, which might have been last minute adjustments
4:35 HA! I thought I was the only one who noticed!
man this makes me incredibly nostalgic for mk ds