I notice your riding a gear high aswell as I have the bike and have already broke my leg, the ecm tuning on this bike and throttle response isn’t great or forgiving and ecm and seat are a must
Dual sporters have been begging for a street legal 450. Honda listened. Finally a manufacturer gave us what we’ve been asking for! And seriously, no dual sports are good on road.
Well, it’s an intermediate/expert level dirt bike with a license plate! There is definitely a learning curve. But no way around the fact that factory fuel mapping sucks. Can’t blame Honda entirely for scraping together a DOT legal emissions bike when the twitchy throttle really isn’t terrible off-road. It’s really meant to be in the dirt. And to be ridden hard in the dirt. Not poking around town. On a 450 fuel injected 4 stroke dirt bike. That’s like daily driving a 7 second drag racing car with no interior and radials. Get a vortex+sumo wheels+comfortable seat, and then you have a better street bike.
How is it on the highway? In this first impression video he isn’t really vibing with it, but you have way more experience on this bike. I ride dirt bikes all the time, and want a road legal bike. I have about a 25 minute commute to work daily, however occasionally I will need to be on the road between 1-3 hours. Usually twice a month. Is this bike comfortable for riding for that amount of time (very occasionally) or should I search for something else? Thanks!
@@chasewarner99 my commute is the same. 4 lane highway posted 70mph. For me, it's a blast on the highway, once you swap the seat for a Seat Concepts. I've done many long trips on mine, and like any bike, you're ready for a break at fuel stops. Just keep in mind, euro 5 emissions requirements make this bike miserable from the factory, with the fuel cut out causing the "twitchy" throttle. An $800 Vortex ecu solves it. Between the ecu, full FMF exhaust, seat, and 3 gallon IMS tank, I'm over $2K in upgrades. I really wanted to love this bike when I bought it, but I couldn't, in factory form. Money does buy happiness after all lol. This bike isn't for everyone, but it's perfect for me.
I have a 2021 CRF450RL that I converted to a Super Moto. This is an awesome bike as long as you get the Tokyo Mod Vortex ECU to fix the horrible fueling. You’ll need it even if you leave the exhaust stock. Mine rev surged constantly. It ran like crap and stalled out. The new ECU fixed everything.
That head shake at high speeds can easily be fixed by softening the clickers on the suspension. It has a rear shock setting for a 175 lb man. Set at the stiffest setting. Gotta know how to work on these things. Tons of maintenance. But I am a mechanic and love to ride. This is my dream bike. I own the 21.. love it.
Agree 100% I think the autor is exaggerating to make the video more "likable" or interesting or something. It's hard to believe this is coming from a seasoned rider.
It does take a decent amount to get it into a comfortable super moto. I converted my 2019 450L to SM over time. Did G2 throttle tamer, vortex ecu, seat concepts XL, warp 9 17s with continental conti sport tires, 45T rear sprocket, larger front rotor, full yoshi rs4 exhaust. Completely changed the bike. It’s a real beast uncorked. I bought mine used for a great deal, but for the cost of all the aftermarket to make it into a super moto compared to buying one new, I would just buy a husky 701.
No wonder you're getting head shake, you're sitting damn near over the back wheel. A trail bike/supermoto is the ultimate "in traffic" machine with the light weight, tall seat height and punchy engine. Come on guy.
@@PedoBear1811 as someone who rides my dual sport on road with more aggressive tries than this its all in where you sit. Like he said, shouldn't sit nearly that far back, dude looks like he's never ridden a dirtbike, dual sport, or supermoto before.
@@garrison2574 I have only ever owned dirt bikes that where already converted into supermotos. I now own a Aprilia Dorsoduro 750 so it doesn't really "matter" where i sit but yeah thinking back to my ktm days i would sit much more to the front where even my friends said i look ridiculous sitting so much forward. That is however where you have to sit. And have your butt at the other side of the seat pushing the bike down
@@PedoBear1811 yeah for sure. In the vid though he's sitting so far back that it also looks funny, and its causing the head shake problem to be worse too lol.
@@garrison2574 He said that in the vid. Why people are watching this unqualified goober review bikes he's never ridden before is beyond me. I hate youtubers.
As far as making it street legal, I don't know if you mentioned it as I haven't gotten that far in the video, but Honda went as far as rubberizing the teeth on the OEM sprocket (1 or both, not sure) to get the noise pollution to a legal level. They had to tinker with basically every little piece just a tiny bit to make it legal lol
As someone who rides honda dirtbikes, yes the Power is supposed to be punchy and a little sketch.. It makes it easier to control in heavy sand. When you hit a trail and let the engine breathe in 3rd is where you will feel it. Also the seat isn't really ment to be used. Offroad you should only sit on turns or accelerating. So seat comfort at least offroad doesn't matter. 10k is normal price. It's not cheap but it's not expensive. To have it detuned that much is pretty rough for 10k but it's still the same engine that I'm pretty sure you can retune it. Husky would be about 12k for this so it's not a bad deal at all. I will actually be purchasing this for a bike I can put on a rack and take it everywhere on my truck. Which is exactly what I think it's built for.. But yes this is a race bike. It's like hoping on a cbr 1000rr when you are a green rider. It will feel the best only at full Throttle but when you do, the suspension comes alive. That floppy steering will allow you to hit bad obstacles at speed and it is so good
OC: by detuning the engine. Power mods: air box, vortex ecu, yosh exhaust. That should also clean up the throttle and stalling issues. If not, there are more throttle mods. Then just adjust the suspension as needed, and add tires that are more road biased.
As someone who rides dirt bikes and had a crf450 and would illegally take my dirt bike on the street, it’s Natural and I loved the way it felt. I imagine a newer bike would feel even better.
I got a 2019 crf450L. Totally agree with you on the highway! 60-65 is about as fast as I go. It's not a "fast" bike but it sure is tons of fun. 6500 miles and I do multiple off road Enduro races with it and a yearly long adventure ride.
I've put several hours on a CRF450R, and it sounds like everything I remember. The super fast rev up and down is due to a super light flywheel and rotating mass. With a port and polish job and some tuning they become snappy to the point of being almost scary. Now I'm itching for a CRF again 🤣
I have a 2019 crf450L and hands down after owning over 30 bikes it is my favorite 7500 miles of everything from, dirt,moto,stunts, supermoto setup on the tail of the dragon multiple times. It’s just a do everything bike, and I’m not particularly easy on it🤷♂️ I bought it to ride it so that’s exactly how it’s treated( with proper Maintenance of course). If I ever had to get rid of it, the RL would be the only one lol
Honestly didn’t see this first ride coming. Love my 450L though. Such a fun bike. The throttle definitely sucks in first gear and is only a little better in second. Only way to fix it is to buy a new ECU for it. But you do get used to it. I don’t have issues with stalling. The seat is a plank but there’s multiple options on the market. The bike is great as a dirt bike, and for use around town. You eventually get used to the bike and riding it at highway speeds. Granted I don’t go over 70 either with dirt tires.
Do you have any issue with riding long distances? I live in the desert and will have to ride a 2-3 hours sometimes to get to places I want to ride/explore, can it be set up to be enjoyable? I've looked at the 300L Rally but like the power of the 450.
If I had kept this bike stock I think eventually I'd be looking at other options in this price range, probably a Tenere. However after making my mods, as an off road focused bike, thats legal on the street, I can't imagine getting rid of it for a long time.
@@ridered55x84 I appreciate that. I've had some serious projects that have slowed us down. We are getting my son a different bike shortly so I'll probably start up some again for him on that and after I get my basement done I can get some recreation in again....adulting sucks!
I want you to ride a 450x and compare a lot of people say it’s better to get that and just add the lights yourself, but I know the emissions stuff and ecm tuningmakes the bike ruff and seats not even usable
10k is a lot considering drz400 is the completion there 7500-8000 there’s also the Ktm 690 and husky 701 there both better but cost more then 10k and maintenance is more but most riders on these bikes are off-road more then road and do everything to them and service them, plus dirt bikes usually don’t break and insurance is so cheap don’t think it could be cheaper on any other vehicle
Nice video. However, all the complains about how uncomfortably the bike could be for longer hours, tell me that some riders have only used this bikes for fun, and not for work like I have when I lived in South America 😂. I used to travel 8+ on my KLX 150. I would not complain about anything on this bike but maintenance intervals. Thanks for the review! ❤
I love it on the highway the only thing that bothers me is the vibration in the Handel bars makes my hands go num if i could fix that it would be flawless
Wow! Obviously Chase doesnt get it. Honda finally gives the masses what they want and Chase complains that it isnt an old school Japanese dual sport. I will concede the seat needs to go if you spend more than an hour in the saddle. Im puzzled by his complaint of the clutch pull effort. Many have insisted Honda should have made it hydraulic but Personally, I don’t have any issues with it. Perhaps clutch feel or engagement may be more valid points. Chase seems to think this bike is an adventure bike. To me this bike will never be a highway star but then again that wasnt what this bike was designed for. I get this was a demo but you really need to take this bike off road. And Im not talking tight single track riding as this bike was not designed for that either. Perhaps the European counterparts may be a bit more “race ready” but I doubt they will be as dependable as this Honda. Plus, Dealer support for a Honda is much more plentiful. I swapped out my ECU for a Vortex which provided multiple benefits. (Thanks EPA for constricting Honda to make this 50 state compliant and putting it in a sad state of tune) You talked about how this bike feels like the most dirtbike motorcycle you ever rode then compared it to a BMW GS in the way of highway manners. Sorry Chad, you missed the point with your review.
That's the primary reason I ended up buying a WR250R instead of the CRF. It is an absolute blast around town! I've done 70mph on the highway on it and, while I'd prefer not to do long distances like that, I wasn't nearly as terrified as Chase claimed to be here. :D I came from a Z750S and was worried that the lack of power compared to that bike would be an issue, but the light weight and ability to drive straight to a trail and ride it more than makes up for that. Can't imagine selling it anytime soon.
That's the thing which all competition engines have. "True" race dirt bikes all have competition engines which are designed to race. You are not mend to daily on them and should not do it since the service is insanely high
I have the same bike people often change out the ecu to a vortex ecu and a g2 throttle tamer to fix the low end throttle twitch I’ve put a little over 2,600 miles on mine it’s miserable riding slow technical stuff without changing the ecu and the throttle tamer
you know the freeway wobble is mostly the tires...so maybe calm down. and maybe say how the bikes feels vs how you feel. relax, and understand its a 450.
Chase being so dramatic love my crf450rx in sumo trim. Yeah throttle is twitchy but can be fixed with throttle tube. On bar wobble only time had any problem with mine was when front wheel sets down lil off center
I had an XT350 in the early 90’s. Great bike! I know this Honda is leaps and bounds better than my old Yamaha but even as a newbie I knew that the shake on the highway was because of the aggressive tires it had. Id love this Honda and the aftermarket parts availability is apparently huge for this bike, which I imagine would solve the seat issues. But I’m probably too old. 😂
being used to the race bikes it wasn't hard to get used to but I was definitely surprised and very happy with the direction Honda went with this bike. it is a very heavy choked up dirt bike. its really just what Honda is all about. great at everything and the best of nothing. wont get you anywhere with any real style but it will always get you anywhere your skill can push it. I wish they had gone with a hydro clutch for the price point but for what you get I don't feel like I over paid.
My question is, what else is there in this class? Honestly I have no idea but this seems like my best bet in searching for the best performing off road bike with a tag class.
@@ricochetey there is quite a few options all have there different quirks. If your a 60 road 40 dirt rider this is the bike for you anything else maybe look at a ktm or husky 501. They cost about the same and ride about the same.
I have a street legal crf450x. It rides like this RL. Only good to run for a few miles on asphalt from one dirt trail to another. On trails it is awesome. A near perfect dual sport (IMHO) is my xr650l. I was thinking of selling my xr and 450x and buy this bike. Not no more. Thanks for the review.
Nothing in US law requires manufacturers to make all street legal bikes rideable for people not competent to ride them…hyperbikes? I am sure you are a fine street oriented motorcycle rider as I have seen plenty of your videos. But if you ever review another street legal dirt-oriented bike consider a format that lets you, and your vicariously engaged viewers, experience and reflect on the bike as it was meant to be ridden. Side roads, to back highways, to dirt roads, etc.
if ur riding to the trails u need an aftermarket seat but if ur mainly offroad most of the time and standing up now and then its fine stock. i speak from experience. stuck with stock seat for nearly 2 yrs because aftermarket is expensive. highway is fine for me but speed limit here is only 65
Yea im not to enthusiastic about dealerships at the moment, went to get a 22 mt07 they wanted 4k down plus 267 a month for 36 months with none of the 4k dp not going towards the bike, im like no thanks the bike aint even worth 14k
Lol, this is so hilarious. Basically every road rider's reaction to riding a 450 dirtbike 😂 including myself. Until you've got a lot of hours on a dirtbike, you won't know how to ride it. Ass forward, elbows up, ankles and knees glued to the bike and chin over the bars when accelerating haha. Barky throttle and flame-outs are part of the 450 fun. Price is ok, it's meant to be a do it all bike with a race engine. WR450F is better in every aspect though.
As an owner of a yz450f from 2005, yes, they are incredibly sensitive to throttle input. They Rev extremely fast and fall right back down to idle almost immediately. Dirt bikes are so much fun to ride though, it's just instant power any gear, any time. Can't wait to get a dual sport so I can legally ride on the road here in Ontario Canada. Having a hard time deciding between the CRF450RL and a drz400s. It won't be my long distance bike, it'd be my around town and trail bike, with occasional 2 hr rides. I so wish Yamaha would come out with a WR450R for the road
I have a drz 400s and I tricked it all out ..... and I am clearly looking at this one for the simple reason that this frame is aluminum...... the Suzuki is heavy steel... if you're doing any off roading get the honda..... I'm about to buy this Honda and convert the Suzuki into a supermoto
C'mon man, I just got home from a nightshift 0615 this morning, 43 miles one way, 47°F on a DR650 w/backpack strapped to the seat. It's a dualsport and they're fun. If I can do it, anyone can.
I have 800 miles on my 2022 450RL, planning on getting the ECU and Yosh pipe to uncork it , definitely snappy throttle but something you can tame when your used to it IMO….biggest downside for me is just the seat 🤣 other than that love it, taken it on trails and it’s an absolute beast. Highway tho , not really the bike for it
I would love to hear you review my ‘92 FatBoy. 750 lbs of teeth shattering, eyeball buzzing, lane wandering, tailbone busting, 20lb clutch pull, eardrum bursting, skull cracking, ergonomic nightmare of a ride. After 42 years of Harley By God Davidson, I’m wanting a CRF450L. 😎
You can literally make any dirt bike or Enduro street legal to drive in any state (you might have to use out of state registration if you live in the likes of CA, NY, or NJ because, well, you know), but it didn't take much for Honda to make the "CR450R" street legal....but they did go a little far in detuning the engine and management itself just for the hell of it. This RL is super underpowered and detuned compared to the R, so much so that it's not great for trail riding and slow maneuverability because it'll just choke itself out and stall. Thankfully, you can get an ECU flash and exhaust and it'll gain back almost all of it's old R character... it's really a necessity. And the price should really reflect how much you need to do to it to get it to somewhat perform and behave like it actually should.... this RL should be anywhere from 8-9k tops, because you're going to have to drop at least 1500 to fix it 😅 10k for this bike the way it is is outrageous IMO, and I'm a Honda fan, that's the only reason why this bike is even appealing in the first place....but it's not much faster than an XR650L out of the box... and that bike can be had for 6k.... and that bike has the prestige and all the rally and Baja titles to back it up(yeah I know, the XR600R, same frame though, same exact looks though) Edit: that Renthal pad being backwards is "triggering" me 🤣😵💫🤣
I dunno how to take this video. It's laughable. The bike is meant to hop on the road to the next trail, not critique its characteristics on the road.. its a dirtbike lol
Sounds great , you can ride your bike to the nearest or farthest dirt track or go trail riding . I believe I`d be concerned about windy days , maybe , would have to test one out myself on a windy day , Ha . I would like to see a Parts List with all the prices for this bike , add everything up and look at the total price , this must be worth the price HONDA`s asking .
IDKnow why I'm just now learning about this bike but in the world of dual sports(smaller bikes) they really aren't too good at speeds over 65mph - 70mph. Not all but most have this at issue so I'm only just heard about this bike which may help out? peace.
IF they tamed this bike by 17HP from the moto version it had to be done for emissions! That's the only reason to wack-off so much power, which means it can be taken back by un-corking her? IDKnow how but someone does & now I'll be lookin' for that info. I appreciate the ride.....
It is a dirt bike,,, not really design for highway,,, even it is road legal. When you are living in rural areas with a lot of rough road and muddy holes it is almost perfect. Also I think it used SOHC which produces more torque and quick acceleration,,, which is perfect for a dirt bikes.
The CRF450L does everything the MT09 does, and the mt09 can only dream on doing half the CRF450 does :/ Dual Sport VS Road Bike, completely different types of bike
I wanted a comparison between this and the KTM 690 SMCR even though I was already set on the KTM. Your review on the 690 was very positive and that makes it a no brainer for me. Price difference isn't that much and you get so much with the KTM. ABS, TC, slipper clutch, hydraulic clutch, quick shifter and most importantly, comfier highway ride. It's a little heavier but that's what makes it good on the road. I'm a Honda fan but Japanese manufacturers are just slacking in the dual sport segment. It's either dirt bikes or ADVs. No good dual sports.
Have this bike 2022, absolutely nothing good to say about it. Do not buy this bike! Traded in after 1000 km. Pure garbage, need thousands to make a supermoto, need thousands to make it offroad capable. They get you on the looks, this bike is not capable of anything.
I rode my buddy's ktm690. It has more power but I couldn't wait to give it back to him and get back on my xr650l. Smoother and more comfortable. KTM more dirt bike. Xt more dual sport. IMHO.
Any way you can do a first ride on a 2022 ducati supersport 950 ever since I seen your 1st ride on the 17 I believe I have wanted one now years later my dream bike should be here in 2 weeks and I can't wait
No off-road on it? Sacrilege!
Keep watching bammie boob!
Gonna need a cross over video now
@@Mark-ou8nu they did a cross over video last year with the Yamaha tenere 700 and the super tenere
I notice your riding a gear high aswell as I have the bike and have already broke my leg, the ecm tuning on this bike and throttle response isn’t great or forgiving and ecm and seat are a must
Shifting into 5th is at 62mph and into 6th should be 75mph by the manual even tho it feels wrong while riding
It’s funny hearing someone complain about a dual sport being a dual sport😂
I was thinking the same. We buy them cause they are good off road
Dual sporters have been begging for a street legal 450. Honda listened. Finally a manufacturer gave us what we’ve been asking for! And seriously, no dual sports are good on road.
Street bike guys reviewing dirt bikes/duel sports is like finger painters critiquing Leonardo da Vinci’s work.
Underrated comment
Preach!
Doesn't that make you feel superior?
But they make good videos
‘This fork is really hard to use’
Sir that’s a knife, and you’re trying to eat pasta
Well, it’s an intermediate/expert level dirt bike with a license plate! There is definitely a learning curve. But no way around the fact that factory fuel mapping sucks. Can’t blame Honda entirely for scraping together a DOT legal emissions bike when the twitchy throttle really isn’t terrible off-road. It’s really meant to be in the dirt. And to be ridden hard in the dirt. Not poking around town. On a 450 fuel injected 4 stroke dirt bike. That’s like daily driving a 7 second drag racing car with no interior and radials. Get a vortex+sumo wheels+comfortable seat, and then you have a better street bike.
Chase wasn't ready for the fofitty.
I've got 6K miles on my RL. Best bike I've ever owned.
How is it on the highway? In this first impression video he isn’t really vibing with it, but you have way more experience on this bike. I ride dirt bikes all the time, and want a road legal bike. I have about a 25 minute commute to work daily, however occasionally I will need to be on the road between 1-3 hours. Usually twice a month. Is this bike comfortable for riding for that amount of time (very occasionally) or should I search for something else? Thanks!
@@chasewarner99 my commute is the same. 4 lane highway posted 70mph. For me, it's a blast on the highway, once you swap the seat for a Seat Concepts. I've done many long trips on mine, and like any bike, you're ready for a break at fuel stops. Just keep in mind, euro 5 emissions requirements make this bike miserable from the factory, with the fuel cut out causing the "twitchy" throttle. An $800 Vortex ecu solves it. Between the ecu, full FMF exhaust, seat, and 3 gallon IMS tank, I'm over $2K in upgrades. I really wanted to love this bike when I bought it, but I couldn't, in factory form. Money does buy happiness after all lol. This bike isn't for everyone, but it's perfect for me.
@@jasonmount76 thx for the reply, I’ll keep all of that in mind!
I have a 2021 CRF450RL that I converted to a Super Moto. This is an awesome bike as long as you get the Tokyo Mod Vortex ECU to fix the horrible fueling. You’ll need it even if you leave the exhaust stock. Mine rev surged constantly. It ran like crap and stalled out. The new ECU fixed everything.
Ahhh so that’s why
That head shake at high speeds can easily be fixed by softening the clickers on the suspension. It has a rear shock setting for a 175 lb man. Set at the stiffest setting. Gotta know how to work on these things. Tons of maintenance. But I am a mechanic and love to ride. This is my dream bike. I own the 21.. love it.
My wife has this ‘22 CRF450RL and loves it. You guys are soft 😂
Agree 100% I think the autor is exaggerating to make the video more "likable" or interesting or something. It's hard to believe this is coming from a seasoned rider.
It does take a decent amount to get it into a comfortable super moto. I converted my 2019 450L to SM over time. Did G2 throttle tamer, vortex ecu, seat concepts XL, warp 9 17s with continental conti sport tires, 45T rear sprocket, larger front rotor, full yoshi rs4 exhaust. Completely changed the bike. It’s a real beast uncorked. I bought mine used for a great deal, but for the cost of all the aftermarket to make it into a super moto compared to buying one new, I would just buy a husky 701.
Once you ride a lightweight dual sport, it makes any other style of bike feel big and heavy.
No wonder you're getting head shake, you're sitting damn near over the back wheel. A trail bike/supermoto is the ultimate "in traffic" machine with the light weight, tall seat height and punchy engine. Come on guy.
He is driving dirt wheels on the streets and not using supermoto wheels. Changing the wheels will make a world of difference.
@@PedoBear1811 as someone who rides my dual sport on road with more aggressive tries than this its all in where you sit. Like he said, shouldn't sit nearly that far back, dude looks like he's never ridden a dirtbike, dual sport, or supermoto before.
@@garrison2574 I have only ever owned dirt bikes that where already converted into supermotos. I now own a Aprilia Dorsoduro 750 so it doesn't really "matter" where i sit but yeah thinking back to my ktm days i would sit much more to the front where even my friends said i look ridiculous sitting so much forward. That is however where you have to sit. And have your butt at the other side of the seat pushing the bike down
@@PedoBear1811 yeah for sure. In the vid though he's sitting so far back that it also looks funny, and its causing the head shake problem to be worse too lol.
@@garrison2574 He said that in the vid. Why people are watching this unqualified goober review bikes he's never ridden before is beyond me. I hate youtubers.
“now there’s a Final Destination truck in front of me” 😂 … great reference
As far as making it street legal, I don't know if you mentioned it as I haven't gotten that far in the video, but Honda went as far as rubberizing the teeth on the OEM sprocket (1 or both, not sure) to get the noise pollution to a legal level. They had to tinker with basically every little piece just a tiny bit to make it legal lol
Tbh I miss the content where u and yummi do riding together
As someone who rides honda dirtbikes, yes the Power is supposed to be punchy and a little sketch.. It makes it easier to control in heavy sand. When you hit a trail and let the engine breathe in 3rd is where you will feel it.
Also the seat isn't really ment to be used. Offroad you should only sit on turns or accelerating. So seat comfort at least offroad doesn't matter.
10k is normal price. It's not cheap but it's not expensive. To have it detuned that much is pretty rough for 10k but it's still the same engine that I'm pretty sure you can retune it. Husky would be about 12k for this so it's not a bad deal at all.
I will actually be purchasing this for a bike I can put on a rack and take it everywhere on my truck. Which is exactly what I think it's built for..
But yes this is a race bike. It's like hoping on a cbr 1000rr when you are a green rider. It will feel the best only at full Throttle but when you do, the suspension comes alive. That floppy steering will allow you to hit bad obstacles at speed and it is so good
"race bike", are you high? Race bikes don't weigh 281 pounds.
OC: by detuning the engine.
Power mods: air box, vortex ecu, yosh exhaust.
That should also clean up the throttle and stalling issues. If not, there are more throttle mods.
Then just adjust the suspension as needed, and add tires that are more road biased.
As someone who rides dirt bikes and had a crf450 and would illegally take my dirt bike on the street, it’s
Natural and I loved the way it felt. I imagine a newer bike would feel even better.
I got a 2019 crf450L. Totally agree with you on the highway! 60-65 is about as fast as I go. It's not a "fast" bike but it sure is tons of fun. 6500 miles and I do multiple off road Enduro races with it and a yearly long adventure ride.
He needs to ride a Real 450r. The L/RL only make as much hp as a 250 on the dirt (38), a 450r makes about 58...
I've put several hours on a CRF450R, and it sounds like everything I remember.
The super fast rev up and down is due to a super light flywheel and rotating mass. With a port and polish job and some tuning they become snappy to the point of being almost scary.
Now I'm itching for a CRF again 🤣
I remember how fast my 08 450r revved, pretty scary sometimes but so much fun :p
hes not used to the snap, can legit wheelie 1-4th gear no clutch just because of how much torque it has the 450 is no joke
@@taken67ful yes you are right about that.
@@taken67fulnot this particular 450RL though, yes the dirt 450R, but this one is super detuned from the factory
I have a 2019 crf450L and hands down after owning over 30 bikes it is my favorite 7500 miles of everything from, dirt,moto,stunts, supermoto setup on the tail of the dragon multiple times. It’s just a do everything bike, and I’m not particularly easy on it🤷♂️ I bought it to ride it so that’s exactly how it’s treated( with proper Maintenance of course). If I ever had to get rid of it, the RL would be the only one lol
Ahhh the infamous 450... the "diesel truck" of motorcycles
so happy to see a variety of bikes on the channel
Chase it’s a dirt bike past taking off you do not need to use the clutch to shift
Honestly didn’t see this first ride coming. Love my 450L though. Such a fun bike. The throttle definitely sucks in first gear and is only a little better in second. Only way to fix it is to buy a new ECU for it. But you do get used to it. I don’t have issues with stalling. The seat is a plank but there’s multiple options on the market. The bike is great as a dirt bike, and for use around town. You eventually get used to the bike and riding it at highway speeds. Granted I don’t go over 70 either with dirt tires.
I own a 2022 450RL, it's an awesome bike, but it needs a LOT of help to get there. Its a much better desert bike/supermoto than anything else.
Do you have any issue with riding long distances? I live in the desert and will have to ride a 2-3 hours sometimes to get to places I want to ride/explore, can it be set up to be enjoyable? I've looked at the 300L Rally but like the power of the 450.
If I had kept this bike stock I think eventually I'd be looking at other options in this price range, probably a Tenere. However after making my mods, as an off road focused bike, thats legal on the street, I can't imagine getting rid of it for a long time.
Miss your videos man. Hope to see a new one soon!
@@ridered55x84 I appreciate that. I've had some serious projects that have slowed us down. We are getting my son a different bike shortly so I'll probably start up some again for him on that and after I get my basement done I can get some recreation in again....adulting sucks!
1:36 home boy was videoing superstar Chase
Basically, it's a jack of all trades, but a master of none.
I want you to ride a 450x and compare a lot of people say it’s better to get that and just add the lights yourself, but I know the emissions stuff and ecm tuningmakes the bike ruff and seats not even usable
10k is a lot considering drz400 is the completion there 7500-8000 there’s also the Ktm 690 and husky 701 there both better but cost more then 10k and maintenance is more but most riders on these bikes are off-road more then road and do everything to them and service them, plus dirt bikes usually don’t break and insurance is so cheap don’t think it could be cheaper on any other vehicle
I have that bike. Crf450x with plates. Its good for ten or twenty miles on asphalt. Otherwise, dirt only.
Nice video. However, all the complains about how uncomfortably the bike could be for longer hours, tell me that some riders have only used this bikes for fun, and not for work like I have when I lived in South America 😂. I used to travel 8+ on my KLX 150. I would not complain about anything on this bike but maintenance intervals. Thanks for the review! ❤
No off roading? Why on earth are you so far back on it? 🤣
I love it on the highway the only thing that bothers me is the vibration in the Handel bars makes my hands go num if i could fix that it would be flawless
This bike is actually luxury compared to all the other motocross style bikes
Wow! Obviously Chase doesnt get it. Honda finally gives the masses what they want and Chase complains that it isnt an old school Japanese dual sport. I will concede the seat needs to go if you spend more than an hour in the saddle. Im puzzled by his complaint of the clutch pull effort. Many have insisted Honda should have made it hydraulic but Personally, I don’t have any issues with it. Perhaps clutch feel or engagement may be more valid points. Chase seems to think this bike is an adventure bike. To me this bike will never be a highway star but then again that wasnt what this bike was designed for.
I get this was a demo but you really need to take this bike off road. And Im not talking tight single track riding as this bike was not designed for that either. Perhaps the European counterparts may be a bit more “race ready” but I doubt they will be as dependable as this Honda. Plus, Dealer support for a Honda is much more plentiful. I swapped out my ECU for a Vortex which provided multiple benefits. (Thanks EPA for constricting Honda to make this 50 state compliant and putting it in a sad state of tune)
You talked about how this bike feels like the most dirtbike motorcycle you ever rode then compared it to a BMW GS in the way of highway manners.
Sorry Chad, you missed the point with your review.
The 500 mile service interval just absolutely kills this bike for me. It checks so many boxes but an oil change every 4 days is just not doable.
Agreed 100%. that's how I ended up with a klx300. would've liked the extra power of the 450 but when I'm doing trips across states I can't justify it
I've seen several people say they never change the oil that much and the bike still runs fine
That's the primary reason I ended up buying a WR250R instead of the CRF. It is an absolute blast around town! I've done 70mph on the highway on it and, while I'd prefer not to do long distances like that, I wasn't nearly as terrified as Chase claimed to be here. :D I came from a Z750S and was worried that the lack of power compared to that bike would be an issue, but the light weight and ability to drive straight to a trail and ride it more than makes up for that. Can't imagine selling it anytime soon.
That's the thing which all competition engines have. "True" race dirt bikes all have competition engines which are designed to race. You are not mend to daily on them and should not do it since the service is insanely high
Get a DRZ400E for 1000 dollars bore it out to 490 and proceed to defecate on your friends
I have the same bike people often change out the ecu to a vortex ecu and a g2 throttle tamer to fix the low end throttle twitch I’ve put a little over 2,600 miles on mine it’s miserable riding slow technical stuff without changing the ecu and the throttle tamer
Also wheelie monsters
I just bought that bike love it haven't stalled it yet
you know the freeway wobble is mostly the tires...so maybe calm down. and maybe say how the bikes feels vs how you feel. relax, and understand its a 450.
I ended up buying this exact bike , he told me CZcamsr rode it . Then this popped up on my feed . Small world
How was it
😅😅😅 what are you doing on the highway with a dirt bike man?? 😅 Crazy!!
Chase being so dramatic love my crf450rx in sumo trim. Yeah throttle is twitchy but can be fixed with throttle tube. On bar wobble only time had any problem with mine was when front wheel sets down lil off center
YOU NEED BETTER THROTTLE CONTROL IF YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THIS BIKE IS CHALLENGING TO RIDE. thing rides like a fucking dream on 2 wheels
I had an XT350 in the early 90’s. Great bike! I know this Honda is leaps and bounds better than my old Yamaha but even as a newbie I knew that the shake on the highway was because of the aggressive tires it had. Id love this Honda and the aftermarket parts availability is apparently huge for this bike, which I imagine would solve the seat issues. But I’m probably too old. 😂
I like how he called it a Yamaha
being used to the race bikes it wasn't hard to get used to but I was definitely surprised and very happy with the direction Honda went with this bike. it is a very heavy choked up dirt bike. its really just what Honda is all about. great at everything and the best of nothing. wont get you anywhere with any real style but it will always get you anywhere your skill can push it. I wish they had gone with a hydro clutch for the price point but for what you get I don't feel like I over paid.
My question is, what else is there in this class? Honestly I have no idea but this seems like my best bet in searching for the best performing off road bike with a tag class.
@@ricochetey there is quite a few options all have there different quirks. If your a 60 road 40 dirt rider this is the bike for you anything else maybe look at a ktm or husky 501. They cost about the same and ride about the same.
I have a street legal crf450x. It rides like this RL. Only good to run for a few miles on asphalt from one dirt trail to another. On trails it is awesome. A near perfect dual sport (IMHO) is my xr650l. I was thinking of selling my xr and 450x and buy this bike. Not no more. Thanks for the review.
You should have tried a CFR300L or the Rally version of the 300L.
My 250 rally would blow it off the road .
We rode our two stroke woods bikes to school rain wind or shine on knobby’s , this is plush in comparison I’d love to have one.
Come to Iceland and ride my girl Honda CRF250L Rally with Delkevic exhaust and clear airfilter...
She is someone else...
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When was the last time a bike truly scared the living hell out chase on freeway 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I got a 2022, get switched, new throttle,, still twitchy.
got an mt-07 and it has the same trottleissues,fixed it with an EJK controller it might work with this bike.
Nothing in US law requires manufacturers to make all street legal bikes rideable for people not competent to ride them…hyperbikes? I am sure you are a fine street oriented motorcycle rider as I have seen plenty of your videos. But if you ever review another street legal dirt-oriented bike consider a format that lets you, and your vicariously engaged viewers, experience and reflect on the bike as it was meant to be ridden. Side roads, to back highways, to dirt roads, etc.
You could have said 2022 Honda Honda crf 450 at least 25 more times chase
if ur riding to the trails u need an aftermarket seat but if ur mainly offroad most of the time and standing up now and then its fine stock. i speak from experience. stuck with stock seat for nearly 2 yrs because aftermarket is expensive. highway is fine for me but speed limit here is only 65
Yea im not to enthusiastic about dealerships at the moment, went to get a 22 mt07 they wanted 4k down plus 267 a month for 36 months with none of the 4k dp not going towards the bike, im like no thanks the bike aint even worth 14k
Lol, this is so hilarious. Basically every road rider's reaction to riding a 450 dirtbike 😂 including myself.
Until you've got a lot of hours on a dirtbike, you won't know how to ride it. Ass forward, elbows up, ankles and knees glued to the bike and chin over the bars when accelerating haha.
Barky throttle and flame-outs are part of the 450 fun. Price is ok, it's meant to be a do it all bike with a race engine. WR450F is better in every aspect though.
As an owner of a yz450f from 2005, yes, they are incredibly sensitive to throttle input. They Rev extremely fast and fall right back down to idle almost immediately. Dirt bikes are so much fun to ride though, it's just instant power any gear, any time. Can't wait to get a dual sport so I can legally ride on the road here in Ontario Canada. Having a hard time deciding between the CRF450RL and a drz400s. It won't be my long distance bike, it'd be my around town and trail bike, with occasional 2 hr rides. I so wish Yamaha would come out with a WR450R for the road
I have a drz 400s and I tricked it all out ..... and I am clearly looking at this one for the simple reason that this frame is aluminum...... the Suzuki is heavy steel... if you're doing any off roading get the honda..... I'm about to buy this Honda and convert the Suzuki into a supermoto
C'mon man, I just got home from a nightshift 0615 this morning, 43 miles one way, 47°F on a DR650 w/backpack strapped to the seat. It's a dualsport and they're fun. If I can do it, anyone can.
I have a 2021 made it a full sumo an I love this thing
You doing 40 on the hwy ofcourse they gonna pass you lol
You must’ve never heard of the fender acting as a sail
I have 800 miles on my 2022 450RL, planning on getting the ECU and Yosh pipe to uncork it , definitely snappy throttle but something you can tame when your used to it IMO….biggest downside for me is just the seat 🤣 other than that love it, taken it on trails and it’s an absolute beast. Highway tho , not really the bike for it
I bought a brand new one yesterday and first thing I bought was a seat and vortex ecu
What about the 300l rally?
I would love to hear you review my ‘92 FatBoy. 750 lbs of teeth shattering, eyeball buzzing, lane wandering, tailbone busting, 20lb clutch pull, eardrum bursting, skull cracking, ergonomic nightmare of a ride. After 42 years of Harley By God Davidson, I’m wanting a CRF450L. 😎
Gotta try the 300L
With good seat you can travel the world on it doing 70 on highway
The highway test had me in tears
go back to the 250 girly bike your in love with
You should try a drz 400 I have mine is a little moded
can convert this moto to supermoto rigth
I have 450L and am so glad it’s not only me that gets scared changing lanes at speed 😂👍🏼
I own that shit and ride it balls to the wall ripping it past everyone only way to ride it.
I got 900 miles on mine and I love it
You can literally make any dirt bike or Enduro street legal to drive in any state (you might have to use out of state registration if you live in the likes of CA, NY, or NJ because, well, you know), but it didn't take much for Honda to make the "CR450R" street legal....but they did go a little far in detuning the engine and management itself just for the hell of it.
This RL is super underpowered and detuned compared to the R, so much so that it's not great for trail riding and slow maneuverability because it'll just choke itself out and stall. Thankfully, you can get an ECU flash and exhaust and it'll gain back almost all of it's old R character... it's really a necessity.
And the price should really reflect how much you need to do to it to get it to somewhat perform and behave like it actually should.... this RL should be anywhere from 8-9k tops, because you're going to have to drop at least 1500 to fix it 😅
10k for this bike the way it is is outrageous IMO, and I'm a Honda fan, that's the only reason why this bike is even appealing in the first place....but it's not much faster than an XR650L out of the box... and that bike can be had for 6k.... and that bike has the prestige and all the rally and Baja titles to back it up(yeah I know, the XR600R, same frame though, same exact looks though)
Edit: that Renthal pad being backwards is "triggering" me 🤣😵💫🤣
Man up Chase
I dunno how to take this video. It's laughable. The bike is meant to hop on the road to the next trail, not critique its characteristics on the road.. its a dirtbike lol
I wish they can road legal new 2 strokes too
Thinking about getting this as my first bike and making it a supermoto
Can't handle a dirtbike on the road.. thats cute.
Yup! $10,000 is a bit much! Then again, everything is a bit much these days.
Sounds great , you can ride your bike to the nearest or farthest dirt track or go trail riding . I believe I`d be concerned about windy days , maybe , would have to test one out myself on a windy day , Ha . I would like to see a Parts List with all the prices for this bike , add everything up and look at the total price , this must be worth the price HONDA`s asking .
I mean that bike is more than able to keep up with traffic
you said you are 5.10 feet?you dont look so short
Brilliant stuff Chase & crew. Love the dual sport content.
Lol it’s called a dual sport. It’s 50/50 on road off-road
IDKnow why I'm just now learning about this bike but in the world of dual sports(smaller bikes) they really aren't too good at
speeds over 65mph - 70mph. Not all but most have this at issue so I'm only just heard about this bike which may help out?
peace.
IF they tamed this bike by 17HP from the moto version it had to be done for emissions! That's the only reason to wack-off
so much power, which means it can be taken back by un-corking her? IDKnow how but someone does & now I'll be lookin'
for that info. I appreciate the ride.....
It is a dirt bike,,, not really design for highway,,, even it is road legal. When you are living in rural areas with a lot of rough road and muddy holes it is almost perfect.
Also I think it used SOHC which produces more torque and quick acceleration,,, which is perfect for a dirt bikes.
No wheelies?!
For $10k, I’d rather get an MT09! ✊🏻
well yeah they're not even close to being the same type of bike lol
I have both 🥰
The CRF450L does everything the MT09 does, and the mt09 can only dream on doing half the CRF450 does :/ Dual Sport VS Road Bike, completely different types of bike
I wanted a comparison between this and the KTM 690 SMCR even though I was already set on the KTM. Your review on the 690 was very positive and that makes it a no brainer for me. Price difference isn't that much and you get so much with the KTM. ABS, TC, slipper clutch, hydraulic clutch, quick shifter and most importantly, comfier highway ride. It's a little heavier but that's what makes it good on the road. I'm a Honda fan but Japanese manufacturers are just slacking in the dual sport segment. It's either dirt bikes or ADVs. No good dual sports.
Have this bike 2022, absolutely nothing good to say about it. Do not buy this bike! Traded in after 1000 km. Pure garbage, need thousands to make a supermoto, need thousands to make it offroad capable. They get you on the looks, this bike is not capable of anything.
Literally riding on grass feels like you're on slick tyres
@@bigrichardzoogy3273 thanks for the info
I rode my buddy's ktm690. It has more power but I couldn't wait to give it back to him and get back on my xr650l. Smoother and more comfortable. KTM more dirt bike. Xt more dual sport. IMHO.
It's kinda silly but would love to see a first ride of a yamaha tw200
Tw200 is a tractor. It goes through everything.
Guy definitely doesn’t come from the dirt!!
Any way you can do a first ride on a 2022 ducati supersport 950 ever since I seen your 1st ride on the 17 I believe I have wanted one now years later my dream bike should be here in 2 weeks and I can't wait
No maps? Sounds like it needs a flash. Low HP though. Low-forties probably too low for a bike pushing 300lbs.
I use to go to that church
Love my 450RL 🤩 Heard its being discontinued for 24 that true?
Been waiting on this
Waited a while for this video
Nice Vid man. Hey so where and when are the vibrations the worst and is it really extreme. Thx man.
All motorcycles are over priced.
A CRF on knobby tires doing full throttle for a hundred kilometers on tarmac, you won't feel your balls or your ass sitting on that plank for an hour.