Today we discuss strategy, tips and advice for the Huns Campaign for Rome Total War Barbarian Invasion Second channel: / @lugoreviews2805 Discord: / discord
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- Horde factions experience no culture penalty for the first city they settle in so long as it remains the capital. Generally you want to settle in a huge city as the government building contributes the most culture penalty, and you can't upgrade or demolish the government building in a huge city. Usually this will mean you should settle in Rome or Constantinople. Rome has better military buildings. - The Roxolani, Sarmatians, and Goths can be destroyed early on if you corner all their family members in one settlement, kill the family members in the battle, and then withdraw before achieving victory. Your general might gain a rank of "coward" for this, but losing the battle to win the war against three horde factions in the first 15 or so turns will pay real dividends for the Huns. - The Huns CANNOT BUILD PORTS! You depend on trade income in BI even more than in vanilla. Be careful about what settlements you take early, as you want them to have a port and to trade with each other. - Spend your first turn reorganizing your armies. All cavalry armies with two or three generals will be more effective than a "combined arms" approach, as lolCA was terrible at unit balance in this period of their game development and horde spearmen are a slightly more effective peasant unit for all intents and purposes. - The difficulty that CA assigned the factions is primarily related to how many settlements the faction needs to declare victory. Fewer = easier. This, however, doesn't correlate to actual campaign difficulty well at all. - The runaway slave spearmen and herdesmen units are considered "untrained" and thus use the same garbage formation as peasants. Though this makes them less likely to be hit by missiles, it also makes them less effective in melee, so their stats don't tell the whole story about their effectiveness.
Whenever I play the Huns, my goal is to sack all of the ERE in Europe and Northern Italy. This weakens the ERE severely, and, eventually, the Sassanids will either take over or the ERE will recover. If the Sassanids take over, then that is great, because they lack heavy units to counter my cavalry. They do have Clibinarii and Cataphracts, but those units do not have the speed to keep up with my cavalry. The Sassanids AI seems to barely recruit camels and elephants, so it is an easy conquest.
Glad to see this game still getting some love. I use this and medieval 2 as my relaxing games since I try to play shooters competitively. Im just glad these masterpiece games are still popular. Great work by the way!
Thanks a lot. Yeah I think it's important to cover these games because they're classics, and I'm glad there's still a thriving community around them. And yeah, I find the game surprisingly relaxing considering it's about killing thousands of soldiers on a battlefield aha
I'm pretty sure Goths are horde able. Also any faction that is capable of hordeing can be turned into a horde if they only have 1 settlement when controlled by the player
Having just won a campaign with the huns, I’ll stress that I’d amassed 100000 gold before settling Rome, and even with only having about half my starting force by then (bloody Vandals picked a fight trying to get into Italy) and then losing most of that to settling, I was haemorrhaging money when trying to rebuild an army to go take more. So do make sure you go and sack a lot of places because you really will need the money
If not a bad idea, but it will be hard. And I mean really HARD. Their family members are literally tanks with the Immortal Guard, and when they start training clibanarii you are mostly screw if you don't use superior numbers against them and fast.
The main problem is that you really gain nothing following that path, as to take down Eastern Empire will be harder if they are not at the same time at war with Sassanians, which you tried to destroy first. Interesting path, but personally I think not as good as moving west.
@@armandom.s.1844 - I mean it's basically the path I'm taking with the Roxolani. Albeit I never turned into a horde in that game set on M/M difficulty. So I just conquered the Sassanid Empire before turning my attention towards the Eastern Roman Empire. At this point in the campaign I control almost all of Anatolia. Though it probably helps that the Eastern Roman Empire Rebels control the two cities below Sidon. So the only place an attack from the Eastern Roman Empire can come from at this point is Byzantium/Constantinople. Though, I'm somewhat tempted to skip over taking that city and focus on the last two targets I need to hold to end the campaign. Though, I'll admit it would be better to secure my holdings by taking Constantinople and moving west towards my last two targets.
I know it’s kinda the point, but fighting Hordes, especially the Huns, as Western Roman Empire will always be one of the least fun experiences in a Total War game. And it wouldn’t be so bad if they did have so many god dam horse archers!
A very important fact about Huns and Vandals, as they start as hordes, is that even if they settle and then lose their last city, they became a horde again with 5 armies at full capacity. They are really annoying to beat as the Romans.
Destroy an enemy horde without any building to rebuild yours is nearly impossible. You can win, but what's less of your army couldn't even break a vase and less take a city. The best way to destroy a horde, if preventing in from emerging. How? Siege the last city of the faction and kill all the family members, but don't take the town. Withdraw. Yes, withdraw out of the map. That will be a defeat for you, but in the end you wipe out the faction, and his horde will not appear. Instead the town will become rebel make it more easy to take.
I started campain very fast taking out Roxalani and obtaining their gold. I did my next steps with a hurry - I have sacked Colonia Dacia and some ERE city and established my permanent home in Mediolanum quickly, to be ahead of the Vandals. Suddenly they came and sacked some my cities in nothern Italy, but I recovered because of my new holdings in South Gaul and Tarentum. I have entered Rome and I decided to rebuild Hippodrome to get best units - Hunnic Heavy Cavalry and Hunnic Elite Warriors. Meanwhile I Have pushed my amies to Spain and northern Gaul. The Vandals took their new land in Campus Jazyges (Pannonia) My Elie force marches east to conquer the balkans. When best cities of Rome and Constantinopole arewill be mine, I will have enouch manpower to chrush some hording germanic factions in the north.
I'm really curious if CA really put White Huns in this game. Curious that will its gonna have same roster like Huns, just like Sarmatian and Roxolani most likely?
They should have made the map larger to include the missing lands of the east that are now modern day Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Afganistan, Pakistan and Northern Parts of India. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Asia_400ad.jpg/1920px-Asia_400ad.jpg
You're right, the White Huns were to be white reskins of the regular Huns. The textures files for their units can be looked at in the models_unit/textures folder of BI.
The "peasants" for huns are the "herdsmen". Runaway slave spearmen is not the peasants for Huns. It was always chrystal clear for me who live in Hungary haha. Also I think the main settlement building gives herdsmen and they are cheap like peasants. I find Huns to be hard. Love Scythia and pretty much like all nomads in all Rome1 games, but when going with Huns I always prefer trying to do things either in Historical order of actions (like going for Pannonia to settle, then unsettle and attack around and such and destroying Roman empire so that other Barbarians can conquer back their lands from the empire with widespread slavery and such civilism) or trying to go for fun like occupying Saxon just because they have temple for +3 missle attack which give awsome boost to already cool horse archers... But problem is this way I can barely ever transform into properly settling down... So hard to get economy going and you immediately become so weak after settling. It kind of works, but I enjoy Scythians much more in original... Vandals usually make Sarmatians to go horde too and I always make goths go horde too and they usually make at least one more faction horde which might not help my case... Always attacking goths as they should end up in the west historically and ally with sarmatians because they are also Scythian nation... Never tried to go directly for Constantinople or Rome, but might be good idea.
This faction seems powerful but for some reason they'd crash the game every time I started a battle with them. I wonder if there was some Hun related file that was never properly installing, because it happened both on my Steam version and disc copy and it happened on multiple computers. Weird faction.
My strat is to spread across Europe and get the Saxons and all to hoard (alliances of course) and then take Europe then take Spain take Greece take Rome...
yes I too agree with you, becouse you know whats up So? They are horse archers so they are same? No.They are coming from same land.But they are not same race.I mean Koreans,Japans and Chinese people are same? No
@@dussasthebrigand-poet6054 Turks were horse archers. Before they learned and adapted firearms from Mughals, they were horse archer and cataphract based people
@@erkegemenavc918 I understand what you say, but in terms of actual playstyle they are pretty much the same, as Scythia is in Vanilla Rome Total War. It is a horse archer-based faction like mongols. For someone who came from Medieval 2, it is a good equivalent.
Please, don’t stop posting Rome total war videos. I’ve always been a big fan of total war, but never had a pc until it came out for mobile. You’re one of the only people who still makes Rome Total War videos and guides. Without you, I’ll be left to old posts from 2008 online. 😢
Don't worry I'll be making plenty more videos soon, thanks for the support!
@@lugotorix6173 Thank you for this!
- Horde factions experience no culture penalty for the first city they settle in so long as it remains the capital. Generally you want to settle in a huge city as the government building contributes the most culture penalty, and you can't upgrade or demolish the government building in a huge city. Usually this will mean you should settle in Rome or Constantinople. Rome has better military buildings.
- The Roxolani, Sarmatians, and Goths can be destroyed early on if you corner all their family members in one settlement, kill the family members in the battle, and then withdraw before achieving victory. Your general might gain a rank of "coward" for this, but losing the battle to win the war against three horde factions in the first 15 or so turns will pay real dividends for the Huns.
- The Huns CANNOT BUILD PORTS! You depend on trade income in BI even more than in vanilla. Be careful about what settlements you take early, as you want them to have a port and to trade with each other.
- Spend your first turn reorganizing your armies. All cavalry armies with two or three generals will be more effective than a "combined arms" approach, as lolCA was terrible at unit balance in this period of their game development and horde spearmen are a slightly more effective peasant unit for all intents and purposes.
- The difficulty that CA assigned the factions is primarily related to how many settlements the faction needs to declare victory. Fewer = easier. This, however, doesn't correlate to actual campaign difficulty well at all.
- The runaway slave spearmen and herdesmen units are considered "untrained" and thus use the same garbage formation as peasants. Though this makes them less likely to be hit by missiles, it also makes them less effective in melee, so their stats don't tell the whole story about their effectiveness.
This is alot of very useful information, thank you kindly for sharing.
I love seeing people still post new videos about RTW and Barbarian Invasion.
Plenty more is coming soon!!
Best plan is to just recreate history and attack every hoard faction, raking mass chaos across the world.
aha yeah that certainly is the most fun option
-steppe bois sacking a mighty empire-
Whenever I play the Huns, my goal is to sack all of the ERE in Europe and Northern Italy. This weakens the ERE severely, and, eventually, the Sassanids will either take over or the ERE will recover. If the Sassanids take over, then that is great, because they lack heavy units to counter my cavalry. They do have Clibinarii and Cataphracts, but those units do not have the speed to keep up with my cavalry. The Sassanids AI seems to barely recruit camels and elephants, so it is an easy conquest.
İf your army has 5 or 10 out of 116 how do I build army's on mobile
Glad to see this game still getting some love. I use this and medieval 2 as my relaxing games since I try to play shooters competitively. Im just glad these masterpiece games are still popular. Great work by the way!
Thanks a lot. Yeah I think it's important to cover these games because they're classics, and I'm glad there's still a thriving community around them. And yeah, I find the game surprisingly relaxing considering it's about killing thousands of soldiers on a battlefield aha
These vids Seriously helped me get back into RTW pretty hard. Though a lot of my play time is with a mod I still play Vanilla a lot
I'm glad you're getting back into RTW, thanks for the kind comment!
Love the Rome videos. The game was elite, the clips are elite
*LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS*
YO LUG THANK YOU SO MUCH. literally comment you need to make this guide and you did you are god
Haha no worries, hope you enjoyed the guide!
Another satisfying video
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
I'm pretty sure Goths are horde able. Also any faction that is capable of hordeing can be turned into a horde if they only have 1 settlement when controlled by the player
Having just won a campaign with the huns, I’ll stress that I’d amassed 100000 gold before settling Rome, and even with only having about half my starting force by then (bloody Vandals picked a fight trying to get into Italy) and then losing most of that to settling, I was haemorrhaging money when trying to rebuild an army to go take more. So do make sure you go and sack a lot of places because you really will need the money
Keep up the vids man
Thanks, will do!
I suppose a third potential option would be to go around the Black Sea and sack the Sassanid Empire before taking up residence in Anatolia.
If not a bad idea, but it will be hard. And I mean really HARD. Their family members are literally tanks with the Immortal Guard, and when they start training clibanarii you are mostly screw if you don't use superior numbers against them and fast.
The main problem is that you really gain nothing following that path, as to take down Eastern Empire will be harder if they are not at the same time at war with Sassanians, which you tried to destroy first. Interesting path, but personally I think not as good as moving west.
@@armandom.s.1844 - I mean it's basically the path I'm taking with the Roxolani. Albeit I never turned into a horde in that game set on M/M difficulty. So I just conquered the Sassanid Empire before turning my attention towards the Eastern Roman Empire. At this point in the campaign I control almost all of Anatolia. Though it probably helps that the Eastern Roman Empire Rebels control the two cities below Sidon. So the only place an attack from the Eastern Roman Empire can come from at this point is Byzantium/Constantinople. Though, I'm somewhat tempted to skip over taking that city and focus on the last two targets I need to hold to end the campaign. Though, I'll admit it would be better to secure my holdings by taking Constantinople and moving west towards my last two targets.
Out of curiosity Lugotorix, will you make a factions guide for Rome Total War: Alexander?
Chaos campaign, cause every faction that can horde to horde and then go settle in the top left corner and leave them to wreak havoc
I know it’s kinda the point, but fighting Hordes, especially the Huns, as Western Roman Empire will always be one of the least fun experiences in a Total War game. And it wouldn’t be so bad if they did have so many god dam horse archers!
A very important fact about Huns and Vandals, as they start as hordes, is that even if they settle and then lose their last city, they became a horde again with 5 armies at full capacity. They are really annoying to beat as the Romans.
Just wondering when youll make a Romano British guid ghh
Hi Lugo there its any chance you will do a hunnic campaign?
no plans at the moment but I'd like to in the future!
I thought they were easy until I fought the Visigoths and realised I have no idea how to fight another hoarde
Destroy an enemy horde without any building to rebuild yours is nearly impossible. You can win, but what's less of your army couldn't even break a vase and less take a city.
The best way to destroy a horde, if preventing in from emerging. How? Siege the last city of the faction and kill all the family members, but don't take the town. Withdraw. Yes, withdraw out of the map. That will be a defeat for you, but in the end you wipe out the faction, and his horde will not appear. Instead the town will become rebel make it more easy to take.
I started campain very fast taking out Roxalani and obtaining their gold. I did my next steps with a hurry - I have sacked Colonia Dacia and some ERE city and established my permanent home in Mediolanum quickly, to be ahead of the Vandals. Suddenly they came and sacked some my cities in nothern Italy, but I recovered because of my new holdings in South Gaul and Tarentum. I have entered Rome and I decided to rebuild Hippodrome to get best units - Hunnic Heavy Cavalry and Hunnic Elite Warriors. Meanwhile I Have pushed my amies to Spain and northern Gaul. The Vandals took their new land in Campus Jazyges (Pannonia) My Elie force marches east to conquer the balkans. When best cities of Rome and Constantinopole arewill be mine, I will have enouch manpower to chrush some hording germanic factions in the north.
I'm really curious if CA really put White Huns in this game.
Curious that will its gonna have same roster like Huns, just like Sarmatian and Roxolani most likely?
They should have made the map larger to include the missing lands of the east that are now modern day Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Afganistan, Pakistan and Northern Parts of India.
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Asia_400ad.jpg/1920px-Asia_400ad.jpg
You're right, the White Huns were to be white reskins of the regular Huns. The textures files for their units can be looked at in the models_unit/textures folder of BI.
White huns aren't in bi but are in atilla.
The "peasants" for huns are the "herdsmen". Runaway slave spearmen is not the peasants for Huns. It was always chrystal clear for me who live in Hungary haha. Also I think the main settlement building gives herdsmen and they are cheap like peasants.
I find Huns to be hard. Love Scythia and pretty much like all nomads in all Rome1 games, but when going with Huns I always prefer trying to do things either in Historical order of actions (like going for Pannonia to settle, then unsettle and attack around and such and destroying Roman empire so that other Barbarians can conquer back their lands from the empire with widespread slavery and such civilism) or trying to go for fun like occupying Saxon just because they have temple for +3 missle attack which give awsome boost to already cool horse archers... But problem is this way I can barely ever transform into properly settling down... So hard to get economy going and you immediately become so weak after settling. It kind of works, but I enjoy Scythians much more in original...
Vandals usually make Sarmatians to go horde too and I always make goths go horde too and they usually make at least one more faction horde which might not help my case... Always attacking goths as they should end up in the west historically and ally with sarmatians because they are also Scythian nation... Never tried to go directly for Constantinople or Rome, but might be good idea.
İf i rün out of army how do I build em
I accidentally saved the eastern Romans by kicking them out of Europe, by turn 76 the had control of east tern Russia and Asia
This faction seems powerful but for some reason they'd crash the game every time I started a battle with them. I wonder if there was some Hun related file that was never properly installing, because it happened both on my Steam version and disc copy and it happened on multiple computers.
Weird faction.
I know runaway slave spearmen and hunters!
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My strat is to spread across Europe and get the Saxons and all to hoard (alliances of course) and then take Europe then take Spain take Greece take Rome...
Fine but too late, I've finished the hun campain by myself :v
ahh aha that's a shame, hopefully some of my other guides will be more useful!
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So there like the mongols
Actually not.Huns are ancesstors of Turks.Mongols are mongols 😂
@@erkegemenavc918 He meant the pattern rather than the ethnicity, because clearly the pattern is they all horse archers.
yes I too agree with you, becouse you know whats up So? They are horse archers so they are same? No.They are coming from same land.But they are not same race.I mean Koreans,Japans and Chinese people are same? No
@@dussasthebrigand-poet6054 Turks were horse archers.
Before they learned and adapted firearms from Mughals, they were horse archer and cataphract based people
@@erkegemenavc918 I understand what you say, but in terms of actual playstyle they are pretty much the same, as Scythia is in Vanilla Rome Total War. It is a horse archer-based faction like mongols. For someone who came from Medieval 2, it is a good equivalent.
love the game but Guess what its fucking dead