Make Sodium Metal Without Electrolysis Using Domestic Chemicals
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- In this video we show how to make sodium metal without electrolysis using domestically available chemicals.
First 40g of sodium hydroxide and 30g of magnesium are place in a steel container with a fuse or sparkler and lit. A heavy lid is quickly placed over the mixture and allowed to burn. The mixture then allowed to cool and the resulting aggregate of sodium metal and magnesium oxide is chiseled out. The aggregate is then ground in a blender until the consistency of coarse sand. It is then poured into a flask and covered with 2x-4x the volume in dioxane. A stir bar is added and a distillation apparatus is outfitted on the mixture. It is then distilled with vigorous stirring. When the sodium is clearly visible on the surface of the liquid the stirring is reduced. When the height of the liquid is less than the diameter of the sodium globules the stirring is stopped completely. Distillation continues until dryness.
Once dry the heating is stopped and the sodium allowed to solidify. It can then be dislodged from the slag and stored under mineral oil. The sodium may additionally be cleaned by heating until molten under mineral to which a few drops of alcohol has been added. Light agitation may be applied to dislodge any residual slag.
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Wow...this is downright impressive. For whatever reason I expected the title to be clickbait, where to get around electrolysis you'd use some horrifically unstable reducing agent on a sodium salt. But no, you are using a thermite-like reaction. And it's not like you are getting some marginal product either, at 6:00 you can see crystals on the surface of the sodium blobs!
thanks! I was totally dumbfounded when it first happened. A decades old problem solved in my lab. I'm kinda afraid now it's all downhill from here :)
@@NurdRage can we use this method for get K°(s)?
@@panchisjaviergrocar134 probably ,since the density of K is lower than sodium , and nurd said the key is density
@@NurdRageand then you discovered how to get it WITHOUT fire
@@NurdRage ....Don't think its only the solvent density that coalesces Na........please try THF, or pyridine.
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I suspect this is more of a triumph than most people realise.
David Lowe Probably the most awesome achievement on youtube in my book. My wife came running in to see what the problem was when she heard my very loud "Holy Shit!" The only thing that will top it is when he releases the potassium video.
Okay, wow. SERIOUSLY impressive! Those crystallization lines are gorgeous!
Even though it took a PHD Chemist specializing in inorganic chemistry to figure this out, I am absolutely blown away by the yield...
I was totally convinced that you destroyed almost all of the sodium by blending it in air like that, so to see big globules of sodium coming out of the slag was just amazing... It literally took me a couple of seconds to believe that it was actual sodium.
Thanks!
At first I was totally blown away and thought it was one-time accident. Then i repeated it several more times before i finally convinced myself i had something.
Is there anyway you could use a heavier gas like carbon dioxide to protect the sodium from reacting during the blending step? (Not sure if sodium reacts with carbon dioxide itself...)
It's possible to use organic liquid right away while blending. The only problem he had with that is that his blender is made out of plastic and would melt.
Ender Gaming; Actually, his really good yields seem to indicate that degradation during that step is pretty minor... still, would be interesting to see what the difference would be if you put the aggregate straight into dioxane (which is contained in a suitable blender housing) after the thermite reaction is done. (Maybe use some liquid nitrogen to reduce the cool-down time? You would have to watch out for condensation though...)
At any rate, I agree with Nurdrage that the major loss almost certainly occurs during either the thermite reaction itself, or the cool-down period after it has completed.
So I think the most effective strategy would be to run the thermite reaction under Argon (you don't need a perfectly air-tight vessel if you don't mind keeping the Argon flowing for the duration of the thermite reaction; you can simply have the Argon come in from the bottom and leave through a coiled metal tubing 'chimney' at the top) and then immediately after it has cooled down, you put the aggregate into the blender with dioxane in it.
Another thing that you can try (however I don't really know how usefull this would be, as I have no idea what the most common hydration state of the NaOH that you will be using would be), is to first thoroughly dry your NaOH (i.e. expell all water of crystallization) as well as drying the magnesium and the container that the reaction will be run in (although the amount of water in those 2 cases should be pretty negligable).
Other than that, use the finest magnesium that you can (but remember to compensate for the increased amount of oxidized surface magnesium by increasing the total amount that you use in the reaction) and then crush and mix it together with the NaOH as thoroughly as possible. Again, I don't actually know if this is worth it, since magnesium is by far the most expensive reagent here, and the >40% yield is already very reasonable; hence the greater loss of magnesium, due to increased surface oxidation of the powder, could quite possibly nullify the benefits of having it more well dispersed.
MRLT Could this also be done with Lithium?
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Het! I wonder why you don't want to make sodium by electrolysis? I remember doing so when I was 16 or 17 and each time I need sodium metal I extract it using electrolysis so why someone like you does not do it?
You know exactly why its so crappy for an amateur then.
For me the worst part was always the leftover sodium hydroxyde in the steel container. I am always left with a huge solid chunk that is highly impure and attract a lot of moisture from the air making it useless for any type of reactions, even other sodium electrolysis batches. It is hard to protect from the moisture and crystals of sodium hydroxyde tend to grow on the surface of the container to spread outside if not stored properly. But if you can handle this chunk it is a great method using only one chemical for the production and fairly easy and fast.
Because: Amateur chemist + molten NaOH + O2 gas being formed + explosive Na globs = 1 less amateur chemist.
Seriously, have you even thought about what would happen if a drop of water were to fall into the setup?
Just like what happens when you pour water into burning oil, the water will instantly flash to steam and send pieces of sodium to imbed themselvesf in your flesh. Yeah, you won't have time to remove it before it explodes due to the moisture in your blood..
Thank you for this!
What a result! I've been waiting for a long time for someone to make this happen. Now, does it work with KOH/Mg post reaction slag?
+NightHawkInLight yep. I'm working on a video of the process now.
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It worked……I did it a few days ago,but i used KOH...and succeeded.
doesn't KOH transform into K at a high enough temperature ?
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absolutely amazing!
thanks man
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This proves that there is still plenty of good science out there for the prepared mind to find! Especially noteworthy, you didn't just complete the experiment, you told us how to take care of the waste. Thank you +Nurdrage!
This is what I love about this channel - everything builds upon previous lessons. Love it!
I went ahead and gave this method a try today and was able to make 1 gram of sodium metal! This was the first time I've ever actually been able to make sodium on my own; all the other methods I've tried over the years have failed. So I'm absolutely thrilled to have finally been able to make sodium for the first time! There's just something magical about a metal that's soft as butter and when reacts with water melts under its own heat to a perfect sphere, and produces hydrogen that surrounds itself and immediately combusts into a wizzing fireball that just like that disappears!
Amazing results! 41% yield for this method seems amazing to me. Just from the fact you used quite a lot of cheap kitchenware to make this with a reasonable yield, it's just so amazing! I would have expected much less. Bravo my nerd, bravo!
I'm a chemist, and I know the struggle dude. You make it real. That's a fucking thing. Congrats ! I'm happy to know how to do now
I love the way he said: if it doesnt bubble add another shot of alkohol.
Wow thats actually a huge brakethrough for homechemists. Thanks for all the time you invested in this experiment. IT IS AWESOME :O !!!!!!!!!!
I've noticed that by drying dioxane with sodium metal, incomaprison to other solvents, the metal forms almost perfect spheres that float on the top of the solvent. The metal is beautiful in comparison to what it looked like before it was added to the drying flask as well. Very cool and only dioxane does it as nicely.
Super pure sodium ! Without electrolysis ! Congrats ! :D
thanks!
NurdRage if I had stirring equipment I would definitely try this looks like fun
You can easily make steerer DIY. Just the stirbar need to be bought - luckily it is cheap. Just stick a magnet to a PC fan.
BarsMonster not the stir bar tat is the problem they are cheap enough. It is the heating element with stir capabilities. my lab equipment is extremely bare bones eating tends to override lab equipment. still trying to get basic glass distillation to make nitric acid for the roughly 35 lbs of low grade silver scrap that I have.
Joe Rowland last time I checked, they start at about $350 US
Great video!! I guess we can say: After decades of research, there is finally a reasonable approach to make sodium for the home scientist!
Finally! A better way to make sodium! This looks like a much safer method than electrolysis and it yields quite an impressive amount of very pure sodium for the relatively small amount of inexpensive reactants used. While electrolysis works, the high temperatures and current plus the fact that molten NaOH is used makes me nervous, plus I lose a lot of sodium to oxidation since i don't happen to have an inert gas cylinder. I definitely want to try this! Thanks NurdRage!
Do you happen to have someone nearby who does blacksmithing for a hobby? Molten sodium chloride baths are sometimes used for heat-treatment of metals, and he'd have all the equipment to handle high-temperature things safely. I've been tempted to try some electrolysis myself, but I just haven't had the time or a project needing enough pure sodium to actually try setting it up...
When I was about 16, I was able to make a little bit of sodium from sodium hydroxide electrolysis and the yield was pitiful to say the least, but it worked and I was happy with my accomplishment. If this video had been around then, I would have made a LOT more of it. I'd love to see your video making potassium once you make it.
Simply congratulations NurdRage, you earned it.
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When i was about 12 years old I thought it would be interesting to try to make my own sodium.. I didn't have any books about chemistry or internet so i was just guessing on how to do it.. First thing i tried was melting salt with a blow torch and running electricity through it, that of course didn't work. Next thing i tried was running a spark of electricity at about 25kv through a pile of salt.. and immediately started smelling chlorine gas. At this point I became rather worried and decided this project was too dangerous to be doing in my parents garage and gave up on the project xD
Nathanael Newton at least you succeeded
You were close, the Castner process - electrolysis of molten sodium hydroxide - would've got you there. Of course it could've got you in a lot of trouble too. Molten sodium hydroxide is hardly "safe" by any stretch.
Nathanael Newton dude that’s me rn
I just love how excited you are over that achievement. Nice work!
This a REAL chemist right here. To find a better to do stuff like is a gamechanger
Maybe you could minimize the loss, when you ballmill the aggregate inside a vacuum vessel. Afterwards going back to standard pressure by soaking in dioxane instead of air.
Eventually even the initial Mg-NaOH reaction could be done somehow inside a vacuum.
is it just me that wants to see nurdrage join all this big sodium spheres together.
Now that'd be a thing for /r/oddlysatisfying
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Join them together, then plate them in gold
For anyone planning to attempt this synthesis. Do no not put the crude sodium in oil after first making it. I thought I could lower the oxidation loss by submerging the aggregate in oil. Unless you somehow get the oil off the sodium before you extract it with dioxane, the oil reacts while heated to form some kind of purple-pink residue which is hard to remove from the glass and also does not allow the sodium to leave the MgO slag. Anyway I wish luck to everyone reading this and taking it as an advice.
Storing the aggregate under vacuum until you're ready to process it might help... Processing it under vacuum would probably also help, but setting that up would be a challenge.
i can't stop watching this video, such solid skill!
It's very cool being a part of this generation where so much discoveries are made.
Congrats :-)
"This generation"? What generation would that be?
HOLY CRAP!!!! I always thought that Nile Red was better than you but with this video you totally conquered a new fanatic sub.
SODIUM METAL, PURE SODIUM METAL, WITHOUT ELECTROLYSIS, AT HOME, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!! When I saw that gorgeus, shiny globe sitting in the middle of that black crap it blew my mind so much that i'm still scrubbing my brain from the walls with a spoon. Congrats man, keep up the great work. U are the man!!!!!
NileRed is a great guy, definitely keep watching him. But i can do other things he doesn't do so watch us both for a broader range of experiments.
Nonetheless, thanks for your support :)
You sound very excited in this one; love it!
Great job!!!!! This will be the first thing I try after finals.
Impressive results!!! The slag separation step is really where all the magic is IMO. For the furnace step, have you considered running a line of nitrogen or argon into the bottom of the can to reduce air oxidation?
I would wager the dioxane is complexing with the magnesium and not the sodium, thus providing a means of chemical separation. Monoglyme and diglyme are two other solvents that may provide similar results, and have less health risks. Also the crown ethers, namely 6-crown-3 (cyclic trimer of ethylene oxide, where dioxane is the cyclic dimer) may work well, too. Acetonitrile and THF may also work, but might not have the affinity bias for the bivalent metal like the bidentate complexing agent dioxane, as well as the favorable higher boiling point. Also MTBE and ETBE, thinking in ether land since dioxane works well.
And this is why you're CZcams's best chemist sir.
I think dioxane works because it's a Lewis base and forms a chelate with MgO.
yeah. I had the idea since i've done dioxane work with grignard reagents before. (one of the reasons why i made dioxane in a previous video).
The thing is i don't have a way to prove that theory yet. If i can, i might squeeze a paper out of this discovery.
pocpic You could test this by comparing the performance of various ethers such as THF, 2-MeTHF and MTBE.
None of them are dense enough for the Na to float
I was kinda thinking the other way around
Because the slag never really dissolved but the Na obviously does
ugh. this is why i never talk about my research, people demand credit for ideas i came up with independently.
"101 °C is easier to work with than 800 °C"
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Jokes aside you've done amazing work getting an easy way to synthesize sodium without insane and unsafe temperatures! Really great work mate!
Amazing results not requiring professional equipment. Of course, starting with sodium hydroxide makes this method possible, due to the reactivity of sodium hydroxide as compared with sodium chloride, which is chemically very stable.
By the way, the little explosion at the end of this video was not caused by hydrogen burning in air, as used to be believed, but by tiny "whiskers" shooting out of the sodium at high speed into the water due to like charges repelling inside the sodium. The whiskers increase the surface area, supporting a kind of heat-based (exothermic) chain reaction (analogous in a sense to nuclear fission). This actual chain reaction has not been studied in detail, I believe, and is not yet completely understood.
You mean a coulomb explosion?
Very well done. I propose the Na-MgO separation is purely physical, hot dioxane wets Na well based on fluid tension and adhesion. Perhaps emulsification of molten Na drops. Fluid -solid adhesion and fluid tension is a very specific thing. Many times a fluid is called a "catalyst" due to this specfiicity. Nice achievement, congrats.
You are no Amateur, your contribution to the scientific community is valued more than anything Bill Nye has done Post Boeing Career 😝
Positive influences on the public perception of science are always encouraged and appreciated. Considering NurdRage here is supported by public donations, get the feeling he would agree.
Bill Nye is no longer a scientist. He's a puppet spewing "politically correct" pseudoscience.
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One of your best vids, and one of the best in this field as a whole, imho. Why can you only hit the like button once? Great stuff, and your dedication to the amateur chemist community is laudable. Chapeau
I fucken love you man, looks like im gonna spend tomorrow shaving my magnesium bars.
Awesome! let me know your results and reproducibility. (and as usual, be careful, sodium metal is a harsh mistress)
want to know too.
You have to wait till this weekend, i have finally managed to get together about 30g of magnesium shavings but i still have to make some dioxane which will take a day. So 2 days of work which is my weekend.
SUCCESS!!!
I started with 40g of NaOH and 30g of Mg shavings, then after mixing thoroughly i added it to an aluminium can and tried using a sparkler to set it off, the first one failed but i used three after that and it worked. Of coarse i put a broken cinder block over it.
I ended up using my girlfriends kitchen blender thing to grind it up and it was mostly successful but now her blender doesn't work properly for some reason, shes pissed.
Anyhow i feel like i could have grinded it up finer but i proceeded anyway.
I added the agregate to a 1000ml erlenmeyer flask with a ground glass joint followed by a stir bar and then added 450mls of freshly distilled 1,4-dioxane, this bubbled a little but no enough to cause any significant yield loss i don't think. I then attached my condenser and still head and started ramping up the temp.
dioxane started coming over pretty fast at 100*C and i just let it go nuts, there wasn't any visible sodium in the dioxane until i had distilled down about half way.
I kept going to dryness which i didn't really like doing but i ended up with a rather enormous lump of sodium metal sitting in my flask (bigger than yours i think) as well as a bunch of smaller ones.
I foolishly didn't have an tweasers to work with but i used a bread and butter knife to cut the large sodium chunk into 4 smaller bits and then dumped the lot onto a plate and separated out as much sodium as i could.
my sodium looked pretty dirty at this point and i threw it a 100ml beaker and put in some mineral oil and added some ethanol and started heating it, i didn't have to add anymore ethanol but i did have to stir it quite a bit and i had trouble getting it all into one lump.
After letting it cool i took it out and dried it with a paper towel and then weighed it, it came to 10.6g :D
My lump wasn't as spherical as yours but i think the fact that my magnesium was a lot finer may have helped increase my yield a little.
I wanna try it with magnesium powder in the future if i can find some and also try adding and removing magnesium to see if this changes the yield at all. Unfortunately it takes me about 4-5 hours to shave 30g of magnesium with my current method so i need to find a better way to do that as well.
awesome! its very cool to have external verification. The increase in yield is wonderful. I agree it might be from the finer magnesium and the fact that yours is freshly made so it hasn't had time to oxidize while mine is years old. excellent work man!
I come back just to hear the intro and how giddy he is. It warms my heart.
You've got some balls distilling dioxane to dryness.
Off of sodium metal. The peroxides are long gone.
That sphere was near picture - perfect. A keeper.
looks like dioxane is now really important for the amateur chemist!!
Maybe, to reduce loss, you can fill the blender wan inert gas, like Nitrogen or Argon. The blender probably isn’t air tight, but it could probably still displace most of the air.
Damn, what a fine process. I feel like you need an award. Cheers 🍺
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Very nice discovery! Only the cancerogenic Dioxane seems to be suboptimal.
Probably the Dioxane removes oxide layers from the metal so it can fuse to bigger lumps.
How could someone dislike this video ?? Really !!
Shazam Shazamsik s maybe they wanted to recover all of the sodium
Congrats! It's an awesome discovery and I feel like I just saw some chemical history in the making.
Congratulations, sir! It's good to know that I have an alternative to United Nuclear or eBay.
Now on to the Dioxane video for a refresher.
You take something nerdy and make it so cool.
I think I know why this works with Dioxane but not other non ether solvents. The lone electron pair on the dioxane molecule are highly exposed because of the bond strain angle of the ethyl linkages, this allows for a weak covalent bond with the sodium, which only has one valence electron, and is substantially stabilized by allowing a resonance hybrid attaining two electrons in the outer shell, roughly put.
"liberate the sodium metal"
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Well done. I've been following your channel for many years as well as the efforts over at sciencemadness and I think what you've achieved here is your best contribution yet as it's much easier to do than the potassium + t-butanol method.
Keep up the good work.
Do i have "Chemistry God" title now? :)
NurdRage at least for synthesis!
I'll give you the title of master. "Chemistry God" is unlocked upon finding a way to make oleum easily from over the counter chemicals. Good luck!
Haha thanks for adding a mini-sodium action shot at the end :)
NurdRage,
I discovered your channel over 6 years ago, you put your hand in liquid nitrogen and explained the Leidenfrost effect. It fascinated me though i was young and I watched more and more of your videos. I've just now began to explore your channel again after a couple years, and I realized you're a huge reason i'm studying chemistry in college. I'm glad to see your channel growing, and I hope to catch up on everything I missed. Keep it up man, and keep inspiring those young and old to learn, and to explore the science.
I just noticed you speed up at the end of every sentence
those sodium balls looked so beautiful. amazing project
Let's see if I can do this for my future element collection.
The oxygen in the dioxane ring will not oxidize the sodium, but has just enough pull to free it from hanging around the magnesium oxides. Loved the use of a sparkler to make the oxide too.
i think Codys Lab did this a while back, well not this method but he made sodium and some other metals like that.
I am quite impressed i gotta say... over 40% yield with such a simple process. and i do imagine you could push it to 60% or so with some additional optimizations. This'll help the community a lot. Such an easy source of pure sodium... my mind is blown :D
Love it, worth the wait
I think there is another reason for the low yield, which is sodoun could form vapor at the first step. The evidence is the fire which was supposed to be hydrogen flame was yellow caused by the combustion of sodium, while the real hydrogen flame is blue.
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That was excellent! And to CZcams I say, leave this channel alone. It's educational and it's an awesome channel!
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This is definitely one of the cooler videos you've done. Congrats man, excellent work.
Nicely done. I appreciate your efforts here. Hopefully this is something that can be adopted as a standard procedure for amateur chemists. I am certainly going to give it a go myself.
Thanks! post it on the unconventional sodium thread :)
Already done.
Maybe you could drop by and add your thoughts. Some questions that are still up in the air? Some reasons why you believe dioxane works so well? That kind of thing.
From one chemist to another, congratulations.
congrats on an amazing achievement!
Seriously: This is a HUGE accomplishment. Thanks and congrats!
I ordered some magnesium powder :')
Any more safety precautions to keep in mind for the reaction with NaOH ?
I assume get a fire extinguisher that is neither water nor CO2 XD
GiggitySam Entz Perform it in a Hole in a Sandbox. If something goes horribly wrong, which I think cannot happen, just close the Hole with your Feet with the Sand around it.
A bucket of sand is enough to cover the reationvessel if needed. But having a fire extinguisher around is a good idea in case you set something on fire (e.g. yourself).
Mg can still burn in CO2, sand is the safest bet.
Make shure there is no water around (sand should be dry)
Mg powder will react much more violently than the turnings. Use a long fuse and stand back!
NaOH is highly caustic with a pH of 13-14, meaning that it'll eat into your hand. Wear gloves while handling it.
It's also very hygroscopic, meaning it'll absorb moisture directly from air. So don't leave it out in the open for more than a day if you want to be as safe as possible.
great achievement nurdrage, ive been a fan for you for some time and you never cease to amaze me with these experiments.
What if you try to make unbinilium (120)? So that it will be named Nurdium? XD
Im digging this !
Congrats and i hope you unlock all the achievements to the game called chemistry !
:) thanks
Then you can use that sodium to make dioxane, and then dioxane to make sodium! Endless chemistry!
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I loved watching a master at work,well done,and thanks for sharing
How do you define an "amateur chemist"
not doing it in a professional laboratory for money?
erica yes but that feels weird when it describes someone with nurdrage's experience.
Lajos Winkler even then that's not exactly clear cut. Especially if you are a chemist and your being sponsored on CZcams. Wouldn't that make you a professional.
+Flamn TubbyToast Not really. Amateur chemists have difficulty buying or getting certain chemicals. Professionals tend to have a lot more tools and chemicals at their disposal.
What do you mean?
There's something beautiful about seeing pure sodium spheres no matter how many times I see it...
Hi Nurdrage, can I make potassium metal on this way?
Really, i'm interested too
Watch the whole video
Darijan Sekulic in his response to nighthawkinlight he says it can and he's working on a video
I could watch this all day. This is so awesome.
Fucking magic.
Alchemy... Version 2017 :)
+NurdRage Next up pure potassium or calcium from wood ashes?
Yield is stunning! Congratulations.
now throw it in a pond
I am impressed. Amateur chemistry at its best.
Is globule a word?
If it has intended meaning, and this meaning is understood by the listener, it is in deed a word.
Would not have believed it if I had not seen it.
You earned a sub.
Do you have the worlds worst nose cold?
Hypothetically, could you do this entire process from igniting the magnesium to storage in a nitrogen atmosphere to grant a higher yield?
Eh? I cant imagine it would be good to use nitrogen for the low oxygen burn. I would imagine argon, which is easy to obtain, would be better
If I'm not wrong, you're a phd chemist. Why do you call yourself an amateur then?
Actual professional chemists completely and totally shit on me every chance they get. I've been called "pure crap" in public and even worse in private.
That's the great thing about being an amateur... you don't need anyone's permission to be one. There is no society to join or standard to meet. To be a professional though you have to have the acceptance of other professionals and meet their standards.
There is nothing wrong with professionals. I sure as hell wouldn't want an "amateur" brain surgeon rummaging through my skull. I want someone who meets an incredibly high standard.
As a chemist though i don't meet the professional standard as they so often remind me. My Ph.D. doesn't make me a professional, it just means i have a Ph.D. and nothing more.
NurdRage wow that's really rude of them. Why would they do that, just because you're not doing reaction pathways that can only be done in a lab with chemicals that are made by sigmaaldrich? Is that their problem?
I think you're doing a great job introducing chemistry to the general public and reminding them that it's not something reserved for those in a proper lab. That it's something anyone can do. I've seen your gifs get posted on reddit so many times and people love it. It's like you're the liberator of chemistry!
+NurdRage It's good you aren't cookie cutter, it lets you innovate without the undue stress of having to always be up to standards.
What do you mean call you crap? Why did they say that?
NurdRage Actually, an amateur literally means a lover (it's from French). A professional is a better professional if he's also an amateur :)
Let's see a professional put together a video like this! You're a Comanche!!
(See the movie Hell or High Water)
I love how you say “globules”
So... what kind of compound can be achieved if in stead of magnesium use titanium? I mean would it be possible to get something even more reactive! I Have a bunch of titanium shavings, and have been using them as fire starters!! Please don't insult me in case that my question is just to stupid...
Migueldeservantes Do it! My first instinct is that you might not get as good of a sodium yield since Titanium Oxide does not have as big of an energy of formation as magnesium Oxide.
(Magnesium Oxide is thermodynamically stable so the magnesium metal takes away the oxygen/hydroxide from the sodium hydroxide)
But try it out and see what happens!
Worst case scenario, it might not work as well (might need more Titanium metal to purify same amount of sodium)
Best case scenario, you notice something cool that maybe nobody has seen before!
Titanium oxide can behave like an acid, so it can react to form compounds like M2TiO4. This could stop the formation of sodium.
search for : Titanate
I'm very grateful for your input, Honest the only reason that I decide to ask is because I have those materials, and very much the only thing that I'm interested on is the purpose, what can be done with it! I was hoping for some different type of alkaline metal.. that is reactive, I remember seen some reactive metal that lights purple!!
Potassium
I was asking myself if this synthesis works with potassium and then you mention it :D I'd really like to do a synthesis that is less dangerous than the reduction of potassium hydroxide with magnesium in Shellsol. I've done it several times and I also think the 2-3 hours it takes until it has eventually reacted and the 5 hours in complete to react completely are way more effort than this.
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I know very little about chemistry .......but I'm sure this is awesome
2nd!after NR.dude please make some ferrofluid
Cruceru Malin two other people posted second
Being the third loser is also an acomplishment!
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Yes! What a wonderful day!