Space Engineers #7: Ice Mining
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- Space Engineers is a sandbox game about engineering, construction, exploration and survival in space and on planets. Players build space ships, space stations, planetary outposts of various sizes and uses (civil and military), pilot ships and travel through space to explore planets and gather resources to survive. Featuring both creative and survival modes, there is no limit to what can be built, utilized and explored.
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Once the pistons are fully extended I drop the drill set by grinding the connection. Then I raise the pistons/fix them and add some tubes and a two merge blocks - carefully lower the new setup back down and you can mine an entire new depth without disassembling the whole thing.
"I did some digging" (300 mile hole in background)
THAT IS NOT SOME.
Put wheels on it boom u can move it
I mean,thats how weels work right?
CLANG is typing
@@aidanaustin5926 add landing gear and wheels when you want to move away unlock landing gear raise suspension after ur in new spot lover suspension lock landing gears
"That's what being an engineer is all about - you start building something, a problem arises. And now you have to figure out how to deal with that problem."
Yea, and because when you're a hammer? All you see is nails? An engineer's solution is: "Hey, I can build something for that!"
Course that's what makes these kinds of games fun. There's always another problem to solve.
I’ve started space engineers recently and have had the same issue with getting enough ice, I’ve done the same large drill design but probably 20 more drills wide, I decided to use solar, wind and batteries to power it all to help save a little extra ice
Never fail to find inspiration whenever I search SE videos. Cool mining rigs man.
This is effectively how I do most of my mining on planets. My rigs aren't quite as fancy or automated. They use pretty much a single turbine for power (if in atmosphere) and a quarter of the drills. Instead of using a cross pattern to get a level done in a quarter of a rotation, it uses a full rotation. I haven't had the rotor head pop off yet. But I wonder if this is due to the pistons being added to the head instead of the rotor added to the pistons. I manually set the pistons to drop down about 2-2.5m at a time. So if there is two pistons, they go down 1m each. If I have 5 than its 0.5m each. Rotor speed needs to be setup so its not too fast this way however. Usually around 0.5-0.8 RPM. Less the more drills being used. If I'm doing this over rock instead of ice/water, then I'll use a sorter linked to a connector designed to throw out everything and then white list by stone. For every 1M kg of ore you get, you'll likely see 5M kg of stone which isn't normally what you want.
DNG's method shown here is way way faster. The method I use is simply a necessity due to materials available. Of course the biggest issue is transporting ore/ice mined. I've been using a small ship large (5x5) eight wheeled rover with 3 large cargo boxes. But will likely be switching to a large ship type sometime in the future. Another advancement I'll be doing is for some of the deepest ores. I'll be using two sets of vertical pistons. One to raise the height of the entire rig to fit more pistons going down. And retract those pistons as the drill pistons need to go deeper. Right now for most surface deposits 4 pistons is good enough to hit things about 45m down. But to get down to 60-80m you need 6 to 8 and the whole thing starts getting really tall. A hassle even with jetpacks on to build.
As for people saying to make this mobile.. I've done that before. But I don't know if its worth it. Pertam and Europa is probably good for wheels, and Mars for atmospheric thrusters (due to lower gravity). But we're talking having the need to be able to move upwards of millions of kg of ore/ice at 0.6-1.2G. I'd imagine those of you who can make vehicles that do this easily may have better mining techniques already.
For anyone interested the song at 27:34 is Surround Me by Kevin Andersson.
Life safer
Using your rotor drill concept, I made a drill tram with auto welders. Each episode I watch, I see something new I can toss in my builds. Thank you for the excellent source materials!
Wow, that looks eerie. Just a huge mining rig abandoned in a shaft that goes for about a mile.
This is a actual awesome idea. I love it
It is so satisfying to watch that thing go down.
i have watched so many of ur videos they always pop up on my recomended, its verry interesting aswell, you really deserve more subscribers!
Watched the opening, saw the game selection, heard the music. Gave the man a sub.
I'm not entirely sure why this came up in my recommended, but now it'll be coming up in my subscriptions
I've been in situations where a minute seems like an eternity. You know what they say... The watched pot never boils.
"Call that a drill?" 'produces this creation' "Now this, this is a drill" :D
This is the only video I’ve found useful explaining timer blocks
Well they are useful everywhere: any script requires a timer block.
@@Illusiqn1st Read that comment closer.
I made the ice rig that you made except for the hole mine left took 32 large blocks to reach the center. My friend turned around and saw a massive monstrosity with 120 drills on it covered in wind turbines.
at the beginning of the video the contrast in the dark and light makes it fun to move my phone
27:26 I demand a 10 hours version of this montage, jesus this is relaxing to watch...
Regarding that truck, I like to use pistons, hinges, and connectors to pass power and inventory between grids that were build separate from each other.
When I am in need of ice, I just make a flying pancake with drills all over the bottom.
Normally I despise intros, but yours gave me a great sample of the games that you play that I also play and did a great job of promoting your content. Subbed. Good job!
The red experimental mode box can be turned off in the shift-F1 menu
also nice rig
3:05 OOehhhhhhhhhhh CLANG PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP .... I still have a giggle when I see it happen hehe ;)
Damn Rich its nice to see how much your channel has grown buddy!
This is just so cool good job
Awesome stuff man!
I don't know why, but I'd love to see this ice drill shrunk down just a bit for a ship & have the drills on all surfaces turning the way you got that ice drill goin', lol
Naming? A core driller? That would of course be the "Corilla", dude.
Why did I want to say it in the way the Japanese said GODZILLA in the originals?
Tyrannocoreus Rex....
This is satisfying.
Just set your pistons to something really low. I use 24 stacked pistons set at .0005, and the rotor at 1rpm. Digs 200+m with no timer block.
(2 pistons down, conveyor tube back up, rinse repeat to 24 pistons. About 12 blocks tall for the pistons and rotor.)
You could also work with a sensor that is detecting the subgrid and every time one of the 4 arms passes, the max distence for the pistons is increased.
I've done slightly smaller rigs at .1 m/s at a really high RPM, like 30 or so.
Built this on a modded playthrough it got destroyed by Orks 5 mins after I got it running 😢
I know this is an old episode, but I'm rewatching the series. Why not build a digger just like you did for tunneling, but with the drills below instead of above, and just have it work its way across the lake. Also, for the digger that's making the tunnel, why not put several "cars" on it, each of which gets larger, and the last one just builds the walls and floor. That would reduce the weight issue, and the later ones could run on the same track. The last one could even grind down the conveyors if you wanted.
ive only watched 1 eppisode and in already obsessed
Man, Minecraft really started whole new genre of first person building games :D After it became popular, building elements started popping up in new games like crazy.
6:04 ships can land give you materials and you can maybe make it a station
You almost said "dramastically" which is awesome anyways lol great vid. Just got this game. I feel like a caveman when i play it lmao I'll get there. Might take a year tho
Now we just have to figure out how to attack the assembly to a mobile platform so we can reposition it and make new circles everywhere.
You could see it go down at 24:25 just before you poped up the inventory.
Would be neat if you mounted the drill on a ship that you could repeatedly land and lower. That way you wouldn't need to rebuild the thing every time you wanted to move it or have it dig deeper
I tend to mount the rotor and pistons on top, then after I reach the depth of the pistons (here it's 2x10 meters) I add just as many conveyor tubes to extend the thing, then I mount all the drills again.. If you make it a ship, you can't attach some things..
Also for power; why not just go for a bunch of wind turbines on the top of the thing? Free power from day 1..
@@therealsourc3 honestly a solar farm with a solar optimization script would be way more efficient than anything else. But this is honestly just because you can do it.
Hydrogen Gens are terrible in every way, unless you need emergency power and have no atmosphere, or a charged reserve battery.
I rebuild the arm, but I ferry the drill setup from site to site with a couple of merge blocks and a craft with 6 large thrusters for lift.
55 by 55 large grid cubes is 137.5 meters in diameter
the end could be a part of "oddly satisfying" xD
It's cool to see what an ACTUAL ENGINEER does. Stay cool Rich!
It's fact man is so destructive and I love it
Dragons know a thing or two about digging caves. Or going into space for that matter.
this is impressive
this rig is friggin awesome!
22:51 At that point, you should have filled that large hydrogen tank about 5 times over with the amount of material you've mined.
It hurts to see all that Ice get destroyed. at 27:58 all 3 kontainers are full already. since storage 1 was already 100% full the moment you looked. and once the drills are full. all the ice just got destroyed. that would have ben enaugh ice to fill at least 20 Large Containers. I skiped to 30:33. i must corect myself i asume that hole is big enough for 50 Large containers full of Ice. oh boy.
That's why there are backup saves
Well...I’ve never played this game but that was pretty cool to watch. Right on man.
Side note: Love how you handle the people who tell you how to play a game YOU paid money for. Got my sub dude. 👍
Love the intro man!
Lol, as he was shooting down the tunnel I was like: "Is he gonna slow down? Is he gonna slow down?! Is he gonna slow down?!! Nope. he's dead." Had a good laugh at that.
i saw it intro was like "IM SUBSCRIBING NOW" BECAUSE THATS AL THE GAMES I LOVE
Quick question how did you set up the timers? Never used them before and am confused on how to set them up
so satisfying!!!
Wouldn't it have been more material efficient to do just one stick of drills with some sort of counterweight opposite it?
why do you use junctions for the X above the hole instead of tubes?
Nice music at the end.
space engineers.. crossed with satisfactory. now that would be insane
It would make it a much better game. People keep talking about Space Engineers 2. It's just a rumor but let's hope that the devs have seen Satisfactory.
@@DragonNationGaming I think the name for that game is starbase lol, google it its gonna be a great game.
just realized your base is located in the exact same lake as mine
We've all had a base there at some point
Your logo looks a lot like the dragon I drew yesterday now that’s what I call a destiny
I built a big wheeled drilling machine, and I gather ice by doing high speed doughnuts over the frozen lakes. lol Fun and efficient. Why carry the ice to the base? Just build a bunch of O2/H2 generators at the ice dig site and fill many hydrogen tanks on site. Make it a refueling station for ships to dock and get hydrogen.
I finally upgraded from my little laptop to a desktop with a proper GPU that'll run SE on something better than minimum settings. Maybe next time you're doing an open game, I'll be able to jump in again.
Holy shit Rich. Another god damn upload? You been going crazy bro.
let youtube process the video first, come back in a hour and you have a good version, bro
@@bitfighterrosemoor797 tf u going on about. I'm talking about him uploading so frequently.
@@jawa8472 Sorry, my brain read that as, the upload was in a bad picture quality. Sorry my bad, brain is tired.
a suggestion to modify this ice miner ... on each support upright top it with a fully extended piston when you build it ... then you can lower that to start the hole ... and then use the drill head pistons to extend it deeper ... this will allow you to dig all the ice sheet and get minerals as well if they appear ... the other option from going in circles is rebuild your inch worm miner and have set to do some number of repeats then lift it on wheeled pistons and reposition it and let it run again .. then you are essentially doing a computerized ice farming of a very large chunk of ice and minerals as they appear in between each reset manually add a connection to the new line and poof your piped all the way around
you can also build a huge landing pad or platform over it all and launch to space from there or build a factory for building vehicles etc
damn I didn't know that the entire nation of dragon's made a gaming channel
Nice job.
On the downside it takes forever to construct takes a heck ton of resources and it’s slow
But on the upside I guess it’s great for making underground bases and collecting whatever’s In the way of its helicopter blade that spins at 1 revolution every 2 minutes
He collected 11million kg of ice in a few minutes of it running though, compared to me manually taking my drill ship & getting 100kg in a minute and having to dock
@@kylemilford8758 Pretty much this. Personally I use platforms like this for normal mining. Though my drill configuration is 1/4 of this. I just shoot a piston down and do a radius of drills rather than a diameter in a cross pattern. Takes 1/4 the resources at the cost of 1/4 the time. However there's nothing more efficient than that. Especially if you're established enough to put thrusters on such a platform to make it reusable.
i recommend the mods twin industries drills welder and grinders it will help with the frame rate
Unless you're doing vanilla like I am in this world
So I like your timer thing but, what I did was build the same thing like wht you built a turn on the drills, then set the rotor to 0.79 and one of the piston velocity to 0.00 no negative so that it will still drill but slowly.
Where tf do the clicks come from? I remember watching this when it just came out.
how are your drills drilling so smothly? i did try this but like 5 long to each side the drills starts shaking.
Turn off tool shake. It's pointless
I made the same with but i made it on a platform that could fly. It looked badass.
No offense but you sound like the narrator from How it’s made.
Oh my goodness it’s so strange but awesome lmao
Why no offense that sounds like a compliment lol
where was the offense
What's the name of the song that you used in the drilling part
Surround Me - Kevin Andersson
Just subbed love the content.
Welcome.
at .25 Rotations per minute (rpm), yes it will take 1 blade 1 minute to make a quarter of a turn xD
This is the first video i watched. I Enjoyed it, the intro is very long tho
Is it weird that i re watched this montage 5 times?
What was the song you used in the end timelapse?
xD 10:27 Ya i immediately noticed you forgot to account for the conveyor and needed to go one more space up, lol.
Hey, it would be cool if you gave us a tiny info as to the total power usage, ore/stone outputs, etc in case we plan to do similar projects
I doubt this is efficient tho, not even 2/4 of the ice went to the cargo, I bet. The rotation speed needs to increase (yield/s) OR the amount the pistons lowers need to increase (increasing yield/s) OR the number of drills needs to decrease (removing 1 yes 1 no should solve it). This "just scraping the surface" does not provide a good ratio of input/output.
I mean he did get 11million KG on his first 2 minutes
part of the problem is that unless you use the better hydrogen engine mod or something similar (either more efficient engine or better hyd/ox generators) it takes 2 large generators to keep up with a single large engine so if ya run 1/1 you only store hydrogen when the engines are off...workable with power management mods but a royal pita without
How about "Hole Plower 9000"?
this is the first time i get an add on someone's intro lol got into like 1.20 at Ark and got an add XD feels weird
I would do every second drill a conveyor as they will still cut
I would also just have 1/4 of that as a row of drills and let it rotate, it's all coming through 1 piston anyway
Would also put it on wheels so you can move it in future
If you ctrl + click on the number you can set the piston speed even slower
Great vid
27:48
1.00x Speed - Liquid/Chillout
1.25x Speed - Dance
1.50x Speed - Club
1.75x Speed - Nightcore
thats awesome x)
ive got 400 hours into this game, and ive never been able to set modules in the ground like that..how in the world did you set them in the ice perfectly like that?
That's how the placement works. Maybe I just don't understand what you're asking
@@DragonNationGaming nahh im just a dummy, it seems it works for me on ice and on the moon, just on normal ground it sets the blocks on top of the soil for some reason
corey harrison Large blocks will be set into the ground, alignment depending on your 'B' option, and small blocks will just appear and drop to the ground.
I will try to do that on Europa ... but i want build it with wheels👌🤗
Can someone tell me what song that is at the end? Really like it.
A conveyer to space holy hell lol
What you need to do with this contraption is to put some wheels on it and make it mobile.
With that sort of design you could make it lower every quarter of rotation.
You mean what it literally does in the video?
Ima put a mini one of these on my rover
that drill is thicc
It's not that useful but it was fun to test out.
Drill Bill and Ice Ice Baby
hey what is the song name for the montage
why not going for a big amount of wind turbines, they are the best way to make energy...
Because in the video the hydrogen generators were knew to me and I wanted to try them out.
Can you show or share the Timer Block configuration for the pistons? I'm having challenges setting it up to automatically drop the pistons every 1-2 minutes like you've done.
The piston speed can be set down to 0.0001 so the whole timer block step is unnecessary. Go off a basis of a static drill will plunge at 0.3 m/s without breaking and take into account the time it takes for a rotation and divide by the number of pistons to get a ballpark. If you're breaking piston or rotor heads set up a welder to auto repair where needed. The rpm for longer swing than this is stable at 0.25 rpm. Welders need large tubes and steel plates available to effect repairs.
Example, If you're at 1 rpm:
60seconds/0.3m/# of pistons