Finally some ACTUAL EVOLUTION in Evolv.io.
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2016
- WARNING: There's a Steam notification sound at 6:11. I didn't notice it before it was too late! :(
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I think creatures should be able to "feel" what's directly underneath them without having to use their eye... Basically their body acts like a secondary sensory organ. That way they could utilize their eye for looking around them more
Yes! It doesn't make alot of sense for a ceature to see what's going on a couple meters in front of it and not directly underneath them. Sensory detection is a must.
Is it going to be online or a download? :D
exactly... if you think about it, nearly half of your senses are contact senses (touch, taste, heat/cold, pain) and second half are ranged senses (sight, hearing, smell and partially heat/cold detection). More primitive the creature, bigger preference for the contact senses).
Thought so too, we humans can see in a straight line. If you can only see one point, it is better for that point to be beneath you...
I thought it already worked that way and they also had vision (in front of them)
"its a very southern thing to be white"
LELELELELEl
And then blacks took over the world by outbreeding everyone else, just like my racist grandma told me they would.
+failing@commenting no that was muslims
It used to be blacks.
LOL when did he say that?
+Orange Xylophone 4:40
One thing that might be an interesting feature would be automatic temperature variances, so some winters would be mild, others especially harsh, etc.
I suggest a camouflage effect where creatures on a color they almost match, fighting is less effective on the creature.
Also, on fertile soil, certain plants should grow. There should be a few kinds of plants, plants should give extra food, and different species should evolve to get more mass from a certain plant, or from soil fertilized through fighting or dying creatures. (Which should be a separate type of fertilization in my opinion) by adding new food sources (maybe a water-based food source and aquatic creatures too), biodiversity should hopefully skyrocket.
some plants should also be poisonous
That might be something that happens naturally if the creatures evolve to look in front of themselves. If a creatures color matches a terrain type they would be less likely to be attacked.
+Matthew Connelly I see. That makes sense. I just didn't notice the invisibility because the creatures weren't looking around. Sorry!
Nah, that would 1. take up too much computer power (as far as I know) so you couldn't simulate as many years anymore, and also that would take away the simpleness of the game to a point where it's pretty confusing to look at
Adding carnivores, that naturally would not eat plants, but gain power by successfull kill, would naturally fix problem of creatures not willing to watch enviroment. With that, creatures would also have to learn path finding to avoid areas, where they would be cornered or slowed, while they are being chased, and/or find a way to protect themselves (poisonous meat anyone?), and after that, predators would have to have some kind of priorities which spieces they like to attack more, and which are not worth chasing.
If you introduced predation or rapidly fatal tiles they would need to expand their vision in order to avoid them. While the predators would need vision to hunt effectively.
this, also that would pave the way for group dynamics , like hunting in packs, or when the non predetors can deal damage in some way the formation of herds
Is that not what the fight command does, allow conflict between creature, i.e. predators.
Add another "eye" that looks to the ground so creatures will be able to look both on the ground and around them at the same time
That's what I was thinking
Or not a "one point 'eye' " but something more like an actual eye, where the creature sees the first thing that crosses a certain field of view (I would suggest three lines for that in the simulator to keep it simple). So if the next creature (or stone) is one meter away in the direction that this "vision line" faces, is blue then it gives a certain input based on its colour.
Also, to imitate the blurriness that comes in the real world when you look at stuff hundreds of meters away, he could automatically multiply that input by the sigmoid funcition times the distance, so the further things are away, the less certain the creature can be of its colour.
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yoav tamir they can its just the evolotion that decided they didnt earn anythin on doin it.
cary you should make it so that if 3-4 rocks are on the same tile then it should become a land tile and there should be flooding so that the land changes and maybe add earthquakes to generate more rocks to restart the rock circle
you. i like you
KOEN - Vulcano thx
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Good idea!
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if the probability of two 'cells' mating was inversely proportional to the distance between the two genomes, speciation events might occur, instead of one global cell population. That might also help with the overpopulation problem.
Good idea, although if the outcome is a baby whose neural network is the middle between both parents, if these parents' neural networks worked completely differnent, the baby would die soon anyway.
The only thing that is necessary for evolution to evolve creautures who are less likely to mate differet species, is that creatures can know what colour (basically representative of the species) the other creature is. I solved that problem by replacing the single "vision point" with a "vision line", which gives the creature the colour of the next object (stone or creature) that is in that line. Also I would add a sigmoid function proportional to the distance that this object is to the creature, so that the further away it is, the "blurrier" the "picture" gets for the creature and the less certain the colour is. I would actually want 3 of these vision lines, to create something like a field of view
For the ground sensing, I would just add one indicator that ONLY senses the colour of the ground, and also 3 others whose distance the creature can vary, which work just like the vision points that are already in place.
BTW I also wrote a lot more (I think very good) ideas in the comment I wrote 1 hour ago, but I don't want to copy n paste everything here
PLEASE release the source code, I'd love to add a more complex neural net to this!
+Based Gob That would be amazing.
If you could do that, then programming a game like this should be a easy task for you.
He did now
"most creatures are either yellow or black, and they have very long names"-cary 2k16
edit:youtube thought it was smart to delete a-lpha of Zeldaforme Gaming 's comment, it said "+Ethan Messinger and Grant Thonpson"
I mean he did say "It's a very southern thing to be white"
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That explains Detroit
+a-lpha of Zeldaforme Gaming, deleted comment refers to the king of random.
I like this guy's personality
Same. His voice does grate on me a bit, but it's easy to get over.
Why does it grate on you?
Gabriel Ferraro Because it's a male version of those annoying preppy girls. "Like, OMG! Totally fabulous!" I get it -- he's effeminate. No need to annoy everyone by ramming it down our throats.
Cortster I never heard him use mannerisms like "OMG" or "Totally fabulous". Even if he did whats wrong with being effeminate? I struggle to see how anyone could so offended by such a thing.
Gabriel Ferraro I wasn't saying he said that, I was making an example of the accent. And it's not the effeminate that's wrong, it's the obnoxious voice that rubs me the wrong way. Also, who said I was offended? It's just annoying. I'm not telling him to stop, just that, personally, I dislike it. Is that so wrong? It's not him I dislike, only his voice. No matter his reason for talking like that, it just feels like he is going "HEY! I'M GAY! HEAR HOW GAY I AM! COOL, HUH?" Even if that isn't the case.
But eh, I can't help how he sounds and I can't help how I think. So I just tried to ignore it. It's hard, but I was able to block out the accent to watch the videos.
At 6:11 i checked my steam.
hahaha me too
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"colors dont affect them" very wise words
BlueDiamond What I meant was colors don't affect their sociality, meaning that none of them are racist.
Also it doesn't matter in this simulation because the creatures can't see each other.
@@brainmaxxing1 "I don't see race."
_creature
@@medchs "I don't see" - also creature
wow just found this channel and just spent 3 hours watching it , it's 5am right now and although I studied programming I really didn't enjoy it however this style content really excites me. god bless you.
I think some creatures should be good in the water.
And most should be okay without being surrounded by nutrition all the time.
And maybe that green graph should be available to be seen in full size with a setting.
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This is a simulation. NOT an interactive game.
It should be based on name to make it easy to pass down through generations
You should somehow fuse evolvio with evolution simulator to run generation walking simulations that determine how fast they actually move :D
You should add a specialization trait to the guys. So they could specialize in hunting down other guys making that more energy efficient but they have a increased cost to eat grass. Then you would end up with predator and producer species instead of one homogeneous species that acts one way.
Also you could add socialization into being like a swimmer or walker. So some circles are much better in the water so they could stay in the water for protection.
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honestly, I wish the map was larger. like, creatures can't possibly cross it in one life large.
Man I love your channel, it's so good.
I love your recordings, I am not most likely the first and the only one to see that the movement throughout all the generations process is to go clock wise, even though some variations of it occur. How ever, great work and cudos for the time and enegery spending, just so other can watch, enjoy and learn!
I really like these videos, it teaches a lot
"It's very south to be white" XD IM DEAD!!!
been waiting all week for this vid. you rock cary!
LOVE the evolution simulators! keep up the great work! :)
More videos plz? Don't forget about all your evolution thingies, a lot of people miss them
Any chance of having the source code putting on GitHub or similar so others can play with it and experiment with additional features?
Robin Hilton I would also be interested in this.
keep these coming!!! these are my favorite videos!
SUBSCRIBED :DDD
This is probably hands down the coolest project I've ever seen on the internet. Period.
You must add something to be able to make your own creature.
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"It's a very southern thing to be white."
-Cary Huang
Don't share this quote out of context.
this is awesome bro. you are an ingenius entertainer. love the whole idea. bravo
This is amazing... I've been waiting for someone to do this for years! @.@
Maybe add multiple vision points to the creatures, so they can see both what's near them and further away from them?
I kinda wanna see one more "hidden" layer in the neural network as well as more memory nodes
Really impressive how the ai keeps perfecting itself. Great job making this software it really does capture the essence of evolution.
I don't even understand what you've done here...but I think I love it!
do you think more hidden layers would also encourage more diverse evolutions?
Wait
What's the point of having a "This button does nothing" button if it does nothing?
1:45
Maybe it does something gasp
to make it look even
Torrence Lettsome If it "does nothing" TECHNICALLY it does something...
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That's the point of the button
I just found this channel... but this work you do is amazing
Again, so cool. Thanks for making it!
In reality, you can't look in the center of your head, because it;s solid"
I'm not sure every human has something in his/her head.
Its proven, we let the different colors mix up and the only color left in the end is black.
I love these! Keep them coming!
Awesome vid, can't wait for the next one. For the rocks, you could have them be more difficult to move in water for the creatures, as well as drift to the nearest land (or rather white land, to avoid build up on coast) (speed of drift determined by size of rock). Perhaps also, give them a sink time value, for sinking as you mentioned (which could also influence drift speed), so that when in water, sink_time += size/some_const (sinks faster when larger), and if sink_time > size then destroy the rock (visible size = size - sink_time). Along with this, you could randomly generate rocks on land (you may want to restrict the amount of rocks that exist). I wonder if ever rocks would be used by creatures tactically for some purpose, that would be cool.
It's very southern to be white - carykh 2016
Yay TWOW! Is the game available now?
Stay awesome, man! You're the reason we still evolve.
Enjoyable content and helpful information regarding best evolution traits. 👍🏻
the video is 13:37 long and there a steam notification at 6:11, 6:11 in reverse is 9:11
No, 6:11 in reverse is 11:6.
He ment flipping it over.
That would be 11:9...
This is not Interesting but that'd be 9:LL
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I'm just glad for Twow 17B. xD'
I swear if it's 2 parts. xD
TWOW 17B Part 1 is tomorrow xD
But what about 3 parts? XD
Part 3 is coming out after the next full moon in which Michael uploads a video.
why is here so many Disney references!
And part 6 will come when the sun goes supernova
You are amazing. Thanks so much for these awesome videos I hope the next one is coming soon. A good idea would be to make a creature that only attacks others and one that only eats grass, this could also mean that they would evolve to look up.
Wahh..was waiting for this..great work..
Dam man, the skill it must take to make something this complex. I'm not a programmer but to make a functioning brain (however simple) is extremely difficult no matter how u do it
If you created the creature itself, yes, you would need extremely much trial n error. But luckily that's just what evolution is doing, so what Carykh did is "just" typing in useful information that evolutoin can use
Cheydinal Ya but he had to generate the base brain and and it's internal interactions
Merik Malhads If I saw that correctly, he just connected everything to everything and if evolution doesn't need one axon, it just doesn't use it
Cheydinal What program decides what to do? There is a feedback loop between the environment and the organism that needed to be preprogramed
Merik Malhads No, that's the entire point of evolution: No feedback loop has to be preprogrammed, at all, other than that well working creatures are more likely to survive. And that already happens per definition
There was a problem while playing... WHAT IS THIS STUPID PROBLEM?!
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This is so interesting! Thanks for doing this
There are some ideas:
Inputs:
3 eyes (2 in front 1 in back) with Red,Green,Blue,Proximity sensor in every eye
sound sensor (responds to amount of other agents around this agent)
smell sensor (responds to amount of movement around this agent)
food sensor (how much food is at the feet of this agent?)
health sensor (how healthy is this agent?)
clock sensors (2, fluctuate in activity over time in different frequencies)
hearing sensor (used to listen to other agents' shouting)
blood sensor (a bot can judge health of the bot ahead of it)
Outputs:
amount of Red,Green,Blue to emit
boost (used to travel much faster, but at a cost of a lot of food)
sound multiplier: bots can be very noisy, or very silent and sneaky through this.
give actuator: when turned on, this bot is willing to share its health with others
How about you add a rule that creatures always have to spend energy to get their body temperature to 1deg? This way in winter they will probably move less and use the fat they saved from summer to survive. Without that rule they will just kinda run in
constant circles which is boring. BTW since accelerating also causes them to lose energy by unwantedly increasing their body temperature, that could also mean they move MORE in winter but that's just speculation
And here's the even more fun part: In real life, every warm object emmits heat radiation, so how about you also add that, so that if another creature is close to another one (like 50% of lost heat/radius^2), both are able to survive much more easily, which will likely cause tribes to rise up.
Thinking about tribes (and after reading The Selfish Gene) I figured it would be absolutely necessary to give the creatures some sense of how closely related another creature is related to them. As far as I know, this can be done by measuring the difference in the skin colour between a different creature and its own one.
And here's how I want to do that: You give the creature not one "vision point" (you also don't just "see" what is at one single point one meter below and two meters ahead of you, you see what's closest in front of you) with a certain radius which they can see, but an entire line, so that their input gives them the colour of the closest object in that direction. To give them the opportunity for some kind of field of vew, you couls give them not one such line, but 3 of them, and mutations control how those are arranged. These three lines would be a normal input, BUT the further the closest object is away, the less certain the input is (sigmoid function). Of course the creatures would also have to know how far away the object in this vision line is, so that should be another input.
Of course it would be incredibly confusing to have like 1500 lines of vision on the map, so you could maybe make it so that these lines blurr away after a few meters or even less.
Those 3 lines were for stones and other creatues, but of course they als need vision of the ground, so I think they should get one input of the ground directly below them (they're gonna want that anyway) and another 3 that they can place as single points - of the kind that you have the vision input right now- so they can also see the ground.
Also if the creatures can see who'se related how closely, you might even see some "altruism" (The Selfish Gene explains that perfectly, but for that to happen it definetly needs to see whose related)
Another feature I would really like to see is communication. How about you let creatures emmit signals - which are simply one or two nodes that every other creature inside a certain radius gets as an input in its own brain; one frame delay of course. This signal is simply a number - which can be taken directly from another node or as a combination of different nodes.
This communication could for example enable group "hunting" (I so wanna see that) or much more efficient "farming" , because creatures can indicate how much food is left where they have just been.
Also you could make it so that the temperature changes slower the closer the tile is to water (just as in real life)
And I'm not sure if this is already in place, but do "heavy" creatures move slower (through both more friction and more energy going into acceleration) than light creatures?
BTW, did you give the creatures a sensor input of when they are being attacked? That would be extremely important
All these features that I mentioned here would probably be able to lead to very complex behaviours, but I am worried that it might not be able to happen, when the neural network mostly only consists of the input nodes. How about you add some more in between? I mean otherwise the creatures' behaviour will never get more complex than single circles going after food and in case it finds a creature of another race it kills that or something. But not much more than that, only with additional neurons tribes could possibly evolve, I think
I guess that just was enough ideas for an entire weeks of programming :D
That's a lot of good ideas, sick!
RINB3R
Thanks. Sadly he went into a completely different direction :D
Does this power your cars battery?
This is very cool! I think you could help them with there ability to see by giving them maybe four "eyes" that are in fixed locations. One looking where they are, one that is one block ahead and one on each side. They can still evolve sight as they need to develop the NN to use the information.
Amazing simulation. I love this sort of thing.
Just subscribed because of evolution videos! just saying :)
Do you think that WE live in a simulation?
Seeing all of these evolution videos is inspiring me to make my own evolution game. The only problem is I'm too god damn lazy
Hello! I love your simulator! it has so much potential!
One thing you could add is a long view and a short view. we humans don't see only our feet nor only 100 meters away.
this will help the creatures avoid oceans and more actively seek food.
How to play?
I mean where to get it
TELL US
@ Your Mom
maybe he just asked how to play because he had a sad childhood and never played before "you fucking imbecile"
btw games are not the only thing you can play
and you can play around with simulations
Cary, I'm disappointed in your use of clickbait.
he said he called it evolvio to attract agario fans
+lelcetz he said he named it evolv.io because it's kinda like agar.io
Asriel Dreemurr he said both
Atleast he was honest xD
You own a world, a living and thinking world. You are a techno god to them!
Wow, this is really cool brain system, 9:30 really helped me realize just how flexible it is
Thanks for being so sure about our heads being solid :D
That moment at 1:33 where you say: "Timelapse Go" was surprisingly epic.
every day that goes by i get more hyped for the next video
I found his videos today and I'm already sad I have to wait 😢
"You can't look in the center of your head because it's solid." -cqrykh, 2017
That time lapse was epic!
What a beautiful glitch. Made my day so much better
10:34 funny glitch moment
Rewatching this I realise that near the start of the video, there’s a creature that changes colour depending if they’re on land or water. I just think that’s really cool.
Have you considered adding different weather conditions and/or temperature regions? Like cold in upper+lower edges of map and warm in the middle?
This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen
I dont know why but I found this video extremely amusing
Highly sophisticated simulation proves humanity will be become blue for no explained reason.
How does the mem node work? Im coming back to this after watching when it came out because I want to do something similar. Does it work by just sending its output value to the next input value for mem?
Lol that steam sound threw me off. I even looked for it. Got meeeeeeeeeee
Are you God?
Really good work... please keep making such wonderful videos :)
damn its so amainzg, you have next sub my friend
Can I ask you for the code snippet where you handle collisions between two round objects?
Like calculation thier new x_velocity and y_velocity
"You can't look in the center of your head, because... It's solid"
lol :)
Have you considered putting food source in the ocean? I think it would be interesting to see if certain creatures evolve to take on the high risk high reward.
Being able to see where you are is a pretty big advantage. Maybe if you made one "vision source" that was always directly under a creature and one that could move, they would develop external senses more. (And even a blind creature knows if it's walking on grass, rocks, or water.)
Gosh how I love that intro
That's incredible! They've developed a 'mating habit' in the form of flashing. I've never seen anything like that.
My theory for the flashing colours to indicate birth: The creatures had evolved to form an axon between the Colo(u)r input nodes and the birth output nodes. So, they have to modify the colour value in order to get their preferred birth value and then flash in order to stabilise it.
Colour(52) -----> Birth(-345)
Cycle goes to
Colour(61) -----> Birth(122)
Flash to stabilise and find 1
Maybe there could be RGB variables for the thing the circle's looking at, and the square it's on.
This is brilliant
Give them two eyes, so they dedicate one to look below them, and another they can use to look in front of them.
Honestly love this
I don’t really understand this completely but it’s pretty cool
It would make sense for the creatures to have a constant which allows them to see at least one block around/in front of it.
Perhaps adding hazards throughout the world will encourage vision. If the creatures can't see the hazards, they won't be able to avoid them.
This program is beautiful
Have you thought about simulating seasons, and their effect on how much 'food' can be gotten from the environment? Especially if the seasons are in opposite cycles on the northern and southern halves of the world.
“Out of context racism doesn’t exist, it can’t hurt you”
Out of context racism: 4:39