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  • čas přidán 20. 07. 2015
  • (25 Dec 1939) The damaged German battleship in harbour at Montevideo.
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Komentáře • 93

  • @tomburton8239
    @tomburton8239 Před 3 lety +32

    The Graf Spee’s problem was that one British shell had destroyed their diesel fuel purification plant (most warships used fuel oil, the Graf Spee used diesel). So they could not treat any more of their diesel. I.e. only a small reserve of already-treated fuel was available - enough for a short distance of sailing. Lansdorf’s options were: (a) sail out & engage again - and certainly perish as even if he prevailed he would then run out of fuel and be adrift until more British warship arrived to finish him off; (b) allow the Graf Spee to be interned - and likely end up being adopted by the British navy; (c) race up the shallows into Argentinean waters - and likely end up as (a) or aground; or (d) scuttle. Clearly (d) was the logical choice.

  • @Moncho1234
    @Moncho1234 Před 2 lety +25

    As a very young boy, my father saw the Graf Spee steam off the bay of Mvdeo from the end of the breakwater.

  • @QED_
    @QED_ Před 3 lety +15

    An early WW2 episode . . . that seems entirely divorced from the rest of the war.

  • @marcelodemasi7994
    @marcelodemasi7994 Před 5 lety +66

    Herr Lanfsdorf was not a member of the Nazi Party but a highly decorate office of the kriegsmarine who bravely saved many lives in both sides after being denied more time and spare parts to fix the rudder and fight on equivalent conditions. This year´s december it will mark the 80th anniversary of his death in Buenos Aires where he is buried in the German Cemetery.

    • @kyle857
      @kyle857 Před 5 lety +4

      Rules of war meant that he wasn't going to get that time. The ship would have been kept there under neutrality laws.

    • @raybon7939
      @raybon7939 Před 4 lety +2

      @R Mack he must not of been happy with his campaign.

    • @marcelodemasi7994
      @marcelodemasi7994 Před 4 lety +1

      o you know people from the Kriegsmarine? Have you ever talked to one of them? You need to learn text interpretations and a little bit down the podium would make you a lesser schmuck.

    • @johnlavery3433
      @johnlavery3433 Před 4 lety +4

      He willing agreed to sink civilian merchant ships, and lead other men in acts of murder. That is not a man to be respected

    • @marcelodemasi7994
      @marcelodemasi7994 Před 4 lety +3

      @@johnlavery3433 You´ve got it wrong, those murdering civilians for the millions were the so called allies and not even during a short period of time. The criminals acting as executioners yo escape making part of the list to execute. The history according to the democrats lovers of freedom is as much a fraud as it is the tall tales of the lodges they are members.

  • @EtzEchad
    @EtzEchad Před 4 lety +18

    This is a sad story. Captain Lansdorff by all accounts was an honorable man. It's a shame that he felt he had to kill himself.

    • @sisophon1982
      @sisophon1982 Před 3 lety +2

      Maybe he felt that he didn't fulfill his duties

    • @campbellstomato
      @campbellstomato Před 3 lety

      He got no other choice. His wife and children were back home. If he wouldn't kill himself, the Nazis probably arrested and kill his family. Imagine your children in a KZ or a gun to your forehead. Now choose. 😨

    • @EtzEchad
      @EtzEchad Před 3 lety +5

      @@campbellstomato
      In general, the NAZIs didn’t punish people’s families when a soldier screwed up. That was a Soviet trait.

    • @jean-pierrelandry516
      @jean-pierrelandry516 Před 2 lety +7

      Langsdorf killed himself as proof he was not a coward for not fighting to the death as ordered by hitler. He saw to his crew, scuttled his ship, and then his final defiance!

    • @harleyb7880
      @harleyb7880 Před rokem

      Nazis are NOT honourable...

  • @keegan773
    @keegan773 Před 3 lety +5

    Amazing changes in technology.
    It took 5 days to rush the pictures back to the UK.
    Now…..a smart phone, instant streaming.

  • @allisonprospero4936
    @allisonprospero4936 Před 4 lety +3

    Excelente documental,nunca lo habia visto!

  • @kurtsherrick2066
    @kurtsherrick2066 Před 4 lety +26

    Langsdorff was found draped in the Imperial Flag of Germany after he shoot himself so his family wouldn't be persecuted. He said he did it because he was supposed to go down with the Spee. If that were the case I believe he would have tried at least go down while probably taking down a ship or two with him. The Spee was hit around 60 times but still was able to put up a fight. He possibly could have hit the Achilles and Ajax before the Spee came in range. Langsdorff sent 9 merchant ships to the bottom without one lost life. He is even considered a hero in Britain.

    • @davidtuck
      @davidtuck Před 4 lety +5

      It's pretty easy to ' send 9 merchant ships to the bottom without one lost life'...when you're in pocket battleship , as they are unarmed. You can tell them to do what the f you like. However faced with an actual opponents, it failed. So, that's the actual test.

    • @kurtsherrick2066
      @kurtsherrick2066 Před 4 lety +9

      @@davidtuck The point was that there wasn't any death when he sank the merchant ships. The Spee put the Dexter out of battle and severely damaged the Achilles and Ajax. The spee could have sunk the Exeter but decided to have mercy. Langsdorf saved thousands of lives. A lot of people walking around today because of Langsdorf.

    • @kurtsherrick2066
      @kurtsherrick2066 Před 4 lety +2

      @@davidtuck The Exeter. Am sorry I have 4 young grandchildren running.

    • @bengraves2677
      @bengraves2677 Před 3 lety +3

      Could have would have, No one knows . There were also Technical Problems few have mentioned. the ship was Diesel Powered , and with all the travel time it did in the first part of the War up till this point . They were worn out, could go out any time. One of the new Ideas of German engineers, and it work splendidly. Just ammo was almost all gone . food stores were not enough to get ships crew back to Germany . Many of his Sailor's were wounded. Langsdorff had lot on his mind

    • @kurtsherrick2066
      @kurtsherrick2066 Před 3 lety +2

      @@bengraves2677 I understand that the fueling system where the ship actually refines the Fuel on ship was damaged and she probably couldn't go around 10 to 12 knots and the Spee would have basically been a sitting duck. Langsdorf.

  • @athosbet1961
    @athosbet1961 Před 4 lety +4

    Very good!!

  • @ricardofischer738
    @ricardofischer738 Před 3 lety +2

    (Portuguese Version) O capitão Hans Wilhelm Langsdorff, na verdade sentiu que o navio: Admiral Graf Spee, não tinha mais condições de combate e que a sua embarcação, devido as graves avarias sofridas em seu casco, em seus canhões e na sala de refino de óleo, o impossibilitava de retornar ao combate em alto mar, mas ele sabia que dadas às circunstâncias, seria um alvo fácil para os três navios Ingleses, se por acaso ele tenta-se guerrear. Como um grande capitão, ele salvou sua tripulação e por orgulho e lealdade aos nazistas e a seu Fuher, explodiu a própria embarcação para não ser humilhado e afundado pela frota inglesa, coisa que certamente aconteceria. (English Version) Captain Hans Wilhelm Langsdorff actually felt that the ship: Admiral Graf Spee, was no longer able to fight and that his vessel, due to serious damage to its hull, its cannons and the oil refining room, the made it impossible to return to combat on the high seas, but he knew that under the circumstances, he would be an easy target for the three English ships, should he try to make war. As a great captain, he saved his crew and out of pride and loyalty to the Nazis and his Fuher, he blew up his own vessel so as not to be humiliated and sunk by the English fleet, which he certainly would. (Spanish Version) El capitán Hans Wilhelm Langsdorff en realidad sintió que el barco, el almirante Graf Spee, ya no podía luchar y que su barco, debido a los graves daños en el casco, los cañones y la sala de refinación de petróleo, hacía imposible volver al combate en en alta mar, pero sabía que, dadas las circunstancias, sería un blanco fácil para los tres barcos ingleses si intentaba hacer la guerra. Como gran capitán, salvó a su tripulación y por orgullo y lealtad a los nazis y su Fuher, hizo estallar su propio barco para no ser humillado y hundido por la flota inglesa, lo que sin duda haría.

  • @MrBurgerphone1014
    @MrBurgerphone1014 Před 4 lety +3

    It's being added to War Thunder.

  • @olegwinner
    @olegwinner Před 2 lety +1

    And people being killed on Exeter?

  • @Mark-st7mp
    @Mark-st7mp Před 3 lety +6

    interesting footage but totally unsuitable and way too loud music.

  • @Syntaxter
    @Syntaxter Před 2 lety +2

    Ein Schiff eine internationale Ikone. In URUGUAY ein Heiligtum. Ein Schiff vs eine ganze NAVY

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 Před rokem

      Eine Nazi-Ikone. Urgayanische Schande.

    • @Syntaxter
      @Syntaxter Před rokem

      @@benwilson6145 Dieses Schiff repräsentiert das Deutsche Volk. (Ein Pfarrer & Co waren weniger Nazis.) 500 Jahre Verbrecher als Kolonialherren Fr Gb Nl Us & Co interessanter. Die eigene Haustür kehren besser.

  • @tjhurson2493
    @tjhurson2493 Před 2 lety

    question did the British merchant men and the crew of the Graf Spee remain interned in Montevideo for the remained of WW2

    • @davidrenton
      @davidrenton Před 2 lety +2

      i doubt it as they where Merchant men not Royal Navy

  • @freeagent8225
    @freeagent8225 Před 4 lety +4

    The most attractive ship of ww2 Classic lines , my favourite ship.

  • @AnthonyTobyEllenor-pi4jq
    @AnthonyTobyEllenor-pi4jq Před měsícem

    There's a gun laying radar visible, !!

  • @raybon7939
    @raybon7939 Před 4 lety

    yeah but he sunk alot of merchant ships before he bought it. im sure the campaign did not
    sit will with him.

  • @bigrobnz
    @bigrobnz Před rokem

    small adversary.......3 light cruisers buddy.......

  • @hansispichalla4059
    @hansispichalla4059 Před 5 lety +1

    gibt auf Deutsch ?????

    • @llenn1592
      @llenn1592 Před 2 lety

      hättest mal besser in der schule aufgepasst

  • @thezone3946
    @thezone3946 Před rokem

    I would have raised a skeleton crew including gunners and gone out to a last stand. Why commit suicide when one can die in glorious battle? No honor there to be had. I would go out like a warrior and if successful become a legend

  • @michaelhuck
    @michaelhuck Před 4 lety +3

    I understand it took only a dozen british warships to fight the already damaged Graf Spee? This was so brave of the English fleet, I actually had expected they would wait for another 10 or 20 battleships to arrive before they tried to attack...

    • @marka87
      @marka87 Před 4 lety +13

      Michael Huck 3 smaller cruisers fought the Graf Spee, Exeter, Ajax and Achilles, all outgunned by the German. No further fight took place.

    • @warhawk9566
      @warhawk9566 Před 4 lety +6

      Alright so here's how you're wrong.The royal navy didn't even have 20 battleships... 20 battleships is a ludicrous amount for any navy to have and it would have only taken 1 to sink the Spee. The only reason they didn't do this earlier was because the pocket battleships were faster than most British battleships, which was the intention, outrun what they can't outfight, outfight what they can't outrun. Lighter ships like cruisers and destroyers could catch it but they were outgunned which made sinking these things tricky to say the least. And although the battle was brutal, the 3 cruisers that caught the Graf Spee were able to deal some pretty significant damage in a battle where they were at a disadvantage. And with it being trapped in Montevideo the only way out was into waiting british ships, no running this time. And with the captain of the Spee believing that 2 British battleships would be present (which if I remember correctly was actually a lie the British told) he decided to scuttle the ship rather than face a battle he was guaranteed to lose and get more of his men killed.

    • @kkhagerty6315
      @kkhagerty6315 Před 4 lety +4

      warhawk9566 that is correct, the British set up false transmissions to make the captain think they had two battleships and an aircraft carrier ready to catch them when they came out

    • @richardpentelow655
      @richardpentelow655 Před 4 lety +3

      Alexander Challis . Correct, Germany was blockaded. Any commerce raider needed to refuel, but most countries would not help. Latin America was supplying UK with large quantities of grains and meat, which partly explains why the Graf Spee was down there. It was being hunted down.
      So what could Lansdorff do, fuel line problems, certainty of defeat and no possibilty of escape. He scuttled the ship and killed himself. One way out I suppose.
      The German surface fleet was a huge waste of resources, achieving very little, the submarine fleet, had it been built more quickly, and in greater numbers, could have had more of an effect. That too was a major miscalculation.
      There was no possibilty of a German battlegroup. Don’t even think about German aircraft carriers, another error if a fleet action was contemplated.

    • @samsonwilkinson8090
      @samsonwilkinson8090 Před 3 lety +6

      I believe it was three much smaller ships. Check your facts before running your mouth... it makes you sound stupid.

  • @brazhell
    @brazhell Před 4 lety +5

    Illarious, when the British narrator refer to the damages made by the 3 to 5 British war ships and skips the fact that Graf Spee sunk 9 ships of her magesty's navy... And there are still stupid idiots who think that the war crimes done by the allies can be equalized by the "Nazi" nature of the German officers, who were the only officers that fully complied to the GC.

    • @richardpentelow655
      @richardpentelow655 Před 4 lety +11

      brazhell .3 - 5 ships? 9 RN navy ships sink? Your facts are as incorrect as your views are odious.

    • @brazhell
      @brazhell Před 4 lety +2

      @@richardpentelow655 Really? Odious? You must reconsider some things. It was the head officer of the Graf Spee who saved the lives of hundreds of British sailors from the sunk units of the British navy, instead of just let them draw, "Nazi" or not. On the contrary, Britain sunk whatever ship they found in their way, even hospital ones. Besides, British have a long murderous tradition, like in the incident of Scapa Flow, after the end of WW1, when the German Admiral refused to deliver the Kriegsmarine units to Britain, preferring to order their scuttling. All sailors who survived were strafed by the British. How about that? And again, stop this fairytale about Nazi and no Nazi officers. They were all fighting against their enemies, who were demolishing their cities and murdering their fellow citizens. Got it?

    • @richardpentelow655
      @richardpentelow655 Před 4 lety +9

      brazhell the ships he sank were merchant shipping, not part of the Royal Navy, he was required to deal withthe crews as he did. Credit to him that he did. It came before the unrestricted submarine warfare that took so many non military lives. On Scapa Flow, Reuter scuttled his ships because he thought they would be handed over to the victors navies, but this was still under negotiation. They had of course surrendered. As to the strafing of German sailors, I have heard nothing. They were taken off their ships and put in camps.

    • @brazhell
      @brazhell Před 4 lety +2

      @@richardpentelow655 Correct, they were meschant ships, Graf Spee caused damages to the three British war ships that were in the neighborhood. Do you really expect to read in your history books all the the crimes commited by your country? I hope that the terms "non-military lives" also include the millions of civilians murdered by the RAF, or is it also not mentioned in your books?

    • @richardpentelow655
      @richardpentelow655 Před 4 lety +4

      brazhell . Yes, well the Navy ships were part of one of a number of squadrons looking for the Graf Spee, so to say that they were in the neighbourhood is an odd way of putting it. History is interesting, and worthwhile reading up on. Obviously not everything is covered, and not everything is completely accurate, but to hear of the strafing of German sailors after the scuttling of the fleet at Scarpa Flow is something I have never heard of. That planes were sent to attack the crews, presumably as they left the ships or landed ashore would require some evidence to be believed. Is there any? During the war, The Flow was strafed by German planes, as was the town of Orkney, nearby, perhaps that is the source of your confusion.