How At The Drive-in Changed Post-Hardcore
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INFO: From 1994 to 2001 a post-hardcore band from El Paso, Texas grinded their way from venue to venue to escape the boredom of their hometown. After going through a series of line-up changes, issues dealing with record labels, and an insanely hectic touring schedule they eventually achieved rock stardom.because they were the band that bands would talk about. The odd thing is that it all happened so suddenly. With the release of their third album Relationship of Command they re-invented the post-hardcore genre.
What band/artist should be next?
time for some chris cornell! :D
How about Pavement? I'd be cool with that
M A N I C S
Denzel Curry
Sublime !
I MUST HAVE READ A THOUSAND FACES
and I’m surrounded by the cunts
I MUST HAVE ROBBED THEM OF THEIR CAUSE
dude everytime i hear/read at the drive in... that line instantly playing in my head 😅
@@Jennamarbles121 SICKENED THIRST, SICKENED THIRST, KEEPS IT TOGETHER!
@@wowimhigh SOFT WHITE GLOVE IN THE CRANIUM
A BULLSEYE MADE SEDATED
The mainstream success of post-hardcore, in my opinion, began with the formation and success of Fugazi. They stood on the platform Fugazi built and went further with it.
That's true. Fugazi were able to tour worldwide. From what i've heard they had one of the most dedicated fan-bases ever.
Hell yeah fugazi is one of my favorite bands ever as well as ATDI and there are a lot of parallels with these 2 bands both musically and otherwise.
Yes and also Refused was before At the Drive In
@@mikkos9982 a dream show would be Thursday, glassjaw, ATDI, refused and fugazi. I got to see refused when they got back together a few years ago and it was amazing. After all these years, they still had it.
I agree - any discussion of post-hardcore needs to include Fugazi
Cedric is my tia’s son from my grandmas side he’s my cousin I learned when my grandma showed me pictures
I’ve never met him personally but I’m proud that my family here in El Paso made it through creativity and music 💪🏼
What’s a tia
Alyx Oberfeld a aunt
Have you met him yet?
I literally moved from cali to el paso and urged my dad to have us enrolled in coranado hs because someone in the youtube comment section said omar and Cedric went to that school. I still dont know, but still love them
Eww
Relationship of Command is a life changing album.
It was one of 3 that changed mine.
@@brandocalrissian3294 What's the other two?
@@michaelgraham9774 PIXIES TROMPE LE MONDE
Cedric Bixler-Zavala changed the way I view words, not just lyrics.
Yes he certainly has a strange way of using them in his songs. It just shows that music can be incredibly good despite of being gibberish haha.
Aesop Rock was the one who totally changed my perception on words as a whole. Pure genius. Please check him out.
Folding Time and Space
I saw them a few years ago. It was awesome to finally get to see them. A dream. As good as the show was; sorry they just are not ATDI without Jim. It can’t be done. He is a necessary ingredient to the band. Irreplaceable.
When I was in High School in El Paso, it was all about, "how do you know At The Drive-In?" Every single one of their tracks was amazing to me.
Me too, I was at Andres highschool
Anything Omar and Cedric related I click immediately.
I'd do the same!
SAAAAAAAAME!
Saaame
every time 🙋♂️🙋♂️😂
Wanna maybe shed a tear? Check out "Our Last Dance" by Nobody featuring Cedric. I watched that video for the first time at the peak of an intense acid trip and it fucking broke me entirely. In a good way though. Twas a much needed release.
I loved at the drive in in high school and as a black girl with an afro id be lying if i dint acknowledge seeing afros in this genre made me really happy. It made me feel like mine was fucking cooooool and could be rock too
You were always cool
I’m white af and I wanted a Latin style Afro cuz I thought these dudes looked so damn cool 😂
Love this
I am from El Paso and can confirm that it is boring af
Me too, man. Me too 😧
@@slackercake Lived in El Paso for 10 years, personally hung out with Radio La Chusma, I don't recall any of their shit ever resembling Post Hardcore whatsoever. Just saying, awesome band regardless. Are they doing hard shit these days? Or were you just mentioning other El Paso acts, not so much as relevant to the ...Post Hardcore... in the title?
El Paso, much like every other city, has a punk and hardcore scene. It's definitely not common knowledge, but apartment 512 and neon rose host the most thrash and death metal along with punk and hardcore. If you think your scene is dying, then be apart of it
I am from the rgv....fuck the rgv lol
Id bet any Midwest small town has you beat, we can't even skateboard without almost getting tazed by a cop or some shit
In 2002 i was going to a SOAD gig, and the guy who was driven the car put on stereo Relationship of Command the whole time of the trip. The next day i bought the cd. Amazing work.
It doesn't take more than that to become a fan really. They were such an incredible band.
Such an amazing band, Relationship of Command is easily one of the best albums of the 2000s
That, art of drowning by AFI and Jane doe by converge.
@brandocalrissian3294 Yeah Jane Doe is heavy af 🤘
@@brandocalrissian3294propagandhi-todays empires tomorrow ashes is another fantastic album to add to the list
Bad Brains 🤘
Hell yeah! Might be a video topic for the future
I second this
Like 1000%
agree
I'm pretty sure that Bad Brains and Black Flag were from DC and not part of the LA Hardcore/Punk Rock scene.
I dug this video a lot, I thought the history of the band was really well realised, but I’d love to have seen a bit more about the influence they actually had on bands after Relationship. Felt as though there were 3 or 4 minutes missing showing what their legacy has done for the movement since.
I’d love to see a video for Glassjaw and Thursday.
Jim Ward is one of the best musicians I've ever seen. Sparta is simply amazing.
Whats a good Sparta song or album to start with?
@@spoonermcgee Wiretap Scars, then Porcelain.
@@DerekBraid Much appreciated, two songs in and digging Wiretap Scars!
Yeah Threes is even good.
Ewwww.
Ross Robinson is a Ghostbuster. Hes captured the ghost so many times with so many bands.
I can really see the genuine effort, hard work, and research that went into making this video and I really just want to say the viewers appreciate it! This is outstanding and insightful content, the fact that you made a further in-depth pdf and a playlist of the band is going above and beyond. Keep up this great work, it's so interest. Additionally, I'd love to see you talk more about the 80's punk scene, I'm new viewer so I may have missed previous videos but I'll be sure to look into it
Thanks for seeing and appreciating the hard work i put into this. This band has given me so much over the past 6 years
so hopefully this can give them something back. In terms of your request, i'm not a huge fan of 80s punk music. But i'd
love to get more familiar with it of course. So we'll see what happens. Cheers from Norway.
This is dope! I did a presentation on at the drive-in for my final senior project like 10 years ago. Time flies man.
Thanks :) How cool. I never got the opportunity to talk about bands during presentations. You were lucky!
Relationship of Command remains solidly in my top ten albums of all time. I've been lucky enough to see ATDI live twice since they reformed and they didn't disappoint, which was great as I had a ticket for the Relationship of Command tour but they imploded and split up before I got to see them.
Loved the video, just one thing, Nevermind was released on 91 not 94 (4:24)
Yupp, sorry about that! I have no idea how i got that wrong.
Wow, that's despicable! I'm sorry I even checked this channel out. I'm guessing he's under the age of 30, if he made such a heinous error!
@@gibsg99 WHOA!!! calm down there fisty pants. How about you go put together a video regarding one of the greatest bands of our time,. Write, edit and piece the thing together than come back let us know about heinous errors. You're those type of people that complain about the cheese not fully melted on your 99 cent burger aren't cha!!
Calm down, son. Damn. You'll do your feelings an injure.
@@goodman8601 how 2 put a troll in his place.
ATDI was my favorite band on the planet when I was a teenager. I would say ATDI is the reason why I started exploring music beyond what MTV/VH1 was playing.
How cool. I was barely a toddler when they were big. I was 6 years old in november of 2000 hehe. So i basically grew up with streaming and youtube as a teenager. ATDI and TMV are still bands that have left a huge mark on me though.
Please do Ian mckaye from minor threat and fugazi
^
don't forget Embrace and Egghunt
Please do i just found Fugazi 3 months ago and im so in love wtf
@@BrainstormForTuesday make sure to watch some live performances, they'll make you love them even more!
@@BrainstormForTuesday Check out the trocadero shows in philedephia those are great
HOLY SHIT. MAN IF YOU MAKE A COMPILATION OF PHYSICAL FORM OF THAT PDF OF ALL THE BANDS YO'VE BEEN TALKING, I'M TOTALLY BUYING IT!
sunny day real estate and the impact they had on EMO with their debut record DIARY would be a really interesting video
It would! Always been interested in that band, but never taken the chance to really read up or listen. Think i got
interested when i found put that the rhythm section of that band went on to play with Foo Fighters. Love em
Definitely. Great idea. For me the biggest emo album was clarity by jimmy eat world. I know sunny day gets the accolades for being first, and ill put drive like jehu as a band i saw that changed music, but nothing compared to clarity. Thats when i became emo
shane hunsicker clarity is an amazing album as well imo the bands that really innovated the emo sound were BRAID and The Promise Ring after I heard those two I was forever hooked
@@Forest_Witch. totally agree. Promise ring really got me started, i should give them more credit. My brothers really loved them. Texas is the reason can be mentioned too. I remember hearing them thinking this was something new. Braid is so fantastic, i hate to say this but i was dismissive of them back in the day and never gave them a real listen until about 10 years ago. My bro also loved braid, shoulda listened to him haha. Mineral is legit too. An album that also had a huge influence on me was samiam clumsy. My music world changed. Growing up in the 90s was great.
shane hunsicker We can’t forget Christie Front Drive they took the sunny day real estate sounds and just completely made it their own that’s another band that definitely inspired a lot of bands as far as instrumentally goes. I’d have to say that Tell all your friends by Taking back Sunday was another big album for me same goes with this small band called karate who came out with a self titled back in the 90s and I can’t leave out The Get up Kids something to write home about. I’m only 20 so I’ve had to go back and do my research but it sounds like growing up in the 90s and finding all these bands at the time they came out is just something else! Either way I’m just glad I know of them haha
Nevermind by Nirvana was released in 1991 not 1994.
Wow.... Fuck me.
@@LieLikesMusic yeah, seriously. F*** you
I love this thread
@@LieLikesMusic yeah...you might want to back off of topics that you weren't around to experience first-hand when they happened. Or disclose from the get-go that you're not in any way being definitive.
Yes but In Utero was released Sep 1993 and Kurt died in Apr 1994. I think thats where the confusion lies.
Acrobatic Tenement, El Gran Orgo will always have a special place in my heart. I still look up old shows when they were in basements and bowling alleys.
Every time I listen to Napoleon Solo or Invalid litter dept., I chill. At the Drive-in makes you relive a full spectrum of emotions without a cliffhanger; it doesn’t leave you angry or anxious or sad or happy, but it can take you from a state of emergency to the pure calm in one song; that’s exactly what art should do.
u said it perfectly
@@Jennamarbles121 thank you
Apart from all the factors that you have listed as contributing to success of the band, you forgot to mention the most important: immense musical talent and creativity of the band members, and particularly Omar and Cedric. Their later band Mars Volta hugely impacted all Rock, Progressive and Metal genres in 2000-s.
Jim Ward too and Sparta along with his other projects. He's a true musician. Just saw Jim and Sparta last month and they still slay your face off.
Thank you so much for this, I've recently witnessed their last concerts here in Brazil. I never would have thought that someday I´d seen them live. 18 years waiting. The importance of this band will never be acknowledge or even matched.
that concert was bat shit crazy everybody was singing!!!! 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
Thank you so much for this. I love ATDI, not only because they made great music,but they gave birth to two of my favorite bands, TMV and Sparta! 🥂
Dude you have great content, keep it up its rare for a youtube channel to go deep in this scene, you got volta, drive-in , bungle videos you already got me
Hahah, yes i'm quite eccentric in terms of some of the music i cover and love. So just wait. There's a lot more of that coming.
fugazi
Fugazi are shit though.
Fugazi are awesome. I'm more impressed that they mentioned The Hated though, that is a really influential but almost unheard of band
@@sodgape shit taste. Fugazi are gods
If you can find the ATD-I playing at Jools Holland, their performance of One Armed Scissor is what I think defines them entirely
I love your videos, thanks for making them
The PDF was a great idea. Hope to see more. Good thinking Lie!!
i’m from el paso, and when i saw this i started freaking out. we fucking did it boys, they finally noticed the band that made it out of this motown dump.
Yeah El Paso is pretty bad
Moses Guevara you’re telling me, i’ve been living here for the past 19 years. i’ve come to hate it, and the music scene is fucking horrible. everyone is just copying each other’s sound, no one wants to be original.
Hmm sure sounds like a crappy place to live. Too bad it's still like that 2 decades after ATDI said the same.
Lie Likes Music okay first off i can’t believe you actually replied to me holy shit, and yeah i’m in a band with my friends right now and we all think/feel the same way about the scene here. everyone is more worried about how popular they want to be or how good they wanna look, no one really cares about the music and everyone in the scene could be labeled a narcissists, i haven’t met one band that actually has a humble intention. maybe a member or two here and there, but overall everyone is just focused on their popularity, reputation, or image. there’s no genuine feeling behind their music. they same chords strummed, same lyrical plot, same keys, same bass lines, it all sounds the same. there is little to no originality in this town. like i said, everyone just copies everyone, it’s a depressing sight.
Please leave. Thanks have a nice day
Ima simple girl.. I see At the Drive In, I click.
I like that ;) Thanks
The shear energy in the album Relationship of Command is insane. It starts with arcarsenal like a punch to the back of the throat and that hand grabs the little dangly thing and doesn’t let go the rest of the album.
thank you! amazing as always!
What a coincidence, just barely about a week and a half ago i got to see them live for the first time.
This station is, no doubts about it, now operational.
Hahah that sure is good timing. Did you dig the show?
@@LieLikesMusic I dunno it if was objectively good or not, because this was, to me, the climax of a build up ten years in the making.
But I had a motherfucking BLAST man, it was great.
They're still playing?
not to be THAT guy....
the misfits were/are from new jersey.
That's okay. My bad for not getting the facts right.
Just found this channel. This is pure gold
One of my favorite bands !🤙🏽great video
Same here! Thanks Ty.
i gotta say the visuals in this video are really well done
Thank you! Yes i tried to put a little more effort into this one.
Do the Blood Brothers.
+1
Who the fook is that?
Yes please.
@@snowrider4495 I do hope you ended up looking them up. You're doing yourself a disservice if you havent.
Thanks thanks!!! I didn't expect this! Loving ATDI since discovered them after ingest all TMV discography.
No problem! Yes same here. I listened to both bands first back in 2012. Very talented people.
wow thanks so much for this! i just watched them live last week and it's perfect for the post-concert depression. thanks a lot again
No problem! Would love to see them live as well, although they're far from who they used to be as a band. Cheers
+Lie Likes Music oh totally, watching their old lives is a torture now. cedric does his best to keep jumping around as always, and he has to take oxygen between songs (really!). and omar doesn't dance anymore, that's the worst thing... still, this was the first time at the drive-in played in my country, so i had to watch them. specially because i was too little to see them both together with mars volta the times they came. not regretting it one bit.
why is the mars volta in the thumbnail?
Omar Rodriguez Lopez and Cedric Bixler-Zavala created the mars volta
@@ascannerdarkly8076 Did you know they had a band before The Mars Volta?
@@LieLikesMusic no did not know
@@LieLikesMusic was it de facto the dub band
the picture is from the mars volta era isn't it?
Great video, one of my favourite bands ever, thanks!
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
It was purely all encompassing, it was also cathartic. It was quite the spiritual experience for a staunch atheist. It was therapeutic. AT The Drive-In forever & forever grateful.
Another incredible video. I appreciate your channel so much!
Thanks! I appreciate that you keep on watching.
Yes very underrated channel.
Our drummer was in a band with Myke Terry so our band is gonna recommend Volumes.
Fire Childe no one listens to djent anymore
Good Shepherd idk if thats 100% true
Saw ATDI in 2001 shortly before they broke up. Life changing show. One of my favorite bands of all time, great video.
Love At The Drive In! One of my all time favorite bands. Great video ✌❤
Same here fellow fallout fan. Thanks for watching!
I love your BLOOD BROS Shoutout
Was thinking the same, I got too stoked for that
Im a much bigger fan of theirs than i am ATDI so my attention peaked right there. Haha
Can you do a video on Frank Zappa
Sure can. Can't promise anything for the close future though
Dude I love your videos. As I watch your work I notice we have very very similar music tastes. Then you dropped this... At the Drive In is my all time favorite band. Great video. I felt chills countless times during this video. Ty for your work.
I new discovered this video and your channel. I subscribed immediately when i saw the content of your channel. Good work 😉👍
Welcome! Thanks for subscribing and liking what i do. New videos come out every thursday.
Hey man can you please do a king crimson episode? also have you listened to a band called the blue stones?
Never heard of Blue Stones before. What type of music do they play? And yes i've been meaning to do King Crimson for a while now.
But i'll have to buy physical copies of their music first.
Lie Likes Music - Their entire catalog is available to buy as AACs on the iTunes Store, just not to stream via subscription to Apple Music. (Although curiously several live King Crimson albums are up on Apple Music.) Love your series, KC would be a great addition!
Their story reminds me of a saying in the music industry, that (on average) "it takes seven years to become an overnight success".
Well said! I think that saying goes for a lot of industries and fields of mastery.
@@LieLikesMusic Very true. 90% hard work and 10% good luck... BOTH are required.
I just found this video (late August 2019). Thanks for the work put into it. In my opinion, another factor facilitating their explosion into being globally recognized is because of their originality & novelty which is extremely apparent when artists can bring forth their expressions & creations with a minimal amount or even no filtering or translating their expression from the unconscious to the material experience. In other words, the most profound or moving art will manifest in such a pure form that it can be completely naked & genuine keeping in direct correlation with the emotive spirit & unconscious from which it came. And so the creation itself is born & takes on a sort of life of its own, ever changing, growing, & interacting with people on a very personal level. Even if people do not have a conscious understanding of how, why, or to what extent they may be influenced by art of this level, a part of us is unavoidably sensitive to expressions which come from the soul. The manner in which we resonate with the creation will determine the emotional investment we are likely to put into it. So, their raw, unbridled expression combined with routine practice (which allows accomplishing highly technical feats of expertise individually & collectively) is what I propose to be the most significant factors in gaining such sudden & widespread attention. However, I'm starting to feel like I just put way to much energy in possibly allowing my ego to go blabbering on about things I have no clue about. Anyways, I just wanted to ask if there is still a way to access the PDF you put your very appreciated work into? Because it is no longer at the address linked. Either way, thanks. I enjoyed the video. PS: Artists that I suggest for future videos: YOB, Neurosis, Melvins, Fugazi, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Eagle Twin, Refused, MF Doom, Kool Keith/Dr Octagon, Dystopia, High On Fire, Julie Christmas, Jarboe, Oxbow, Soundgarden, Overkill, Kyuss, Queens Of The Stone Age, Grails/Holy Sons/Emil Amos, Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band, Lozen(of Tacoma,WA), Scott "Wino" Weinrich, Del The Funky Homosapien, Deftones, Ween, Portishead, Massive Attack.
I didn’t expect you to make a video about this band! ahhh they’re from my city and own one of my favorite concert venues.
They own a concert venue? How cool. I guess not a lot of people expected this. But i really dig em! Have listened to them ever since 2012. Is El Paso still a shithole like they said?
Lie Likes Music No, el paso’s music scene had grown significantly. The city too. Our downtown particularly has expanded with more businesses arriving and there is stuff to do. I don’t know if it’s the bands or just one of the member’s venue, but I’ve been to some of the best concerts there. It holds a special place in my heart.
this is my comfort channel. i love hearing about all these bands’ history, even if i haven’t heard their music yet. it’s way more intimate, that way, when i do listen to them.
Please do Siouxsie and The Banshees
that would be cool, they're actually more interesting than a lot of people give them credit for
Excellent suggestion!
gum ball Agreed!!
Fuck yeah!
Bra jobba dude, digger videoene dine! keep it up!
Takk! Ja det er bare å følge med. Ny video hver torsdag.
Great video, love Relationship of Command
Thanks! You can prob tell i love em too.
Good video and that pdf is a really cool idea but I disagree with the premise that they changed the trajectory of punk. You missed out a lot of early important 90s post -hardcore bands who At the Drive based their sound on. Most notable - Drive Like Jehu. In that sense they are just like Nirvana, simply combining the styles of an era in a cohesive way. I feel the same way about Refused too, who are probably the face of post-hardcore.
Yeah drive like jehu is so similar to at the drive-in and I remember Cedric saying that if there was no drive like jehu there would be no relationship of command.
Thanks for informing me about this. The next time i make a video related to ATDI i'll be sure to take this
into account. Cheers guys.
I'd say Fugazi are arguably the face of post hardcore
You could argue though that by their popularity and stage show alone they still changed the trajectory of punk/emo/whatever. There's something to be said about bringing a sound to the masses and the way it influences a genre and also influences people to get into a genre. Hell, look at your Nirvana example. The amount of people that started bands because of them alone is an argument they changed things.
Also, ATDI was very similar to Jehu, but also much looser and much less mathy-second wave emo. ATDI musically certainly was easier to grasp than Jehu.
Drive Like Jehu are great but Relationship of Command is an outright masterpiece, it transcends the genre completely, honestly similar to how Nirvana did with Nevermind. They did it better than anyone else and nobody has done it better since.
What happened to the Mars Volta series?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
this is a fantastic fucking video dude. covers everything you need. absolutely wonderful.
So happy you made this video. I’ve argued this same point for years.
Thanks. Oh you have? I guess this was made for you then hehe
Awesome job mentioning Glassjaw. Their new album is really good if you haven’t listened.
Disappointing, as much as it kills me to say it- I thought it sucked. It’s flat and lacks the explosive melodic choruses that Glassjaw was known for. While the lack of separation and dynamics could partially be the result of the dreaded overuse of compression in modern music recording, I feel like the song writing is mostly to blame. Felt like Justin Beck was kind of just jamming and entertaining only himself. It’s just boring. I WANT to like it but I can’t.
There are a few songs on their second album that i really dig. But it's not all that good imo.
Diomi idk man. I’ve been listening to these dudes since 99-00, some years before ape dos mil and they were a really aggressive band. Their live shows were amazing. I agree they had explosive choruses but that’s only on their more well known songs. I think they did a good job getting back to their roots and it’s only 3 of the original or early day members. I may be biased due to my GJ tat as one of my most influential bands growing up. That band changed my mind and introduced me to and underground scene when I was 14. Do I play type of music, no. Still a huge influence just like RX Bandits really impacted me on my views on life. When it comes down to it as a musician I’d rather sound like John Lennon but I’ve still got much respect and love for Glassjaw. That band was built around energy during the days of spaz-core. Either way I’m just glad they put out a full length again. Coloring book was awesome but not enough material. lol.
New album oh snapp
@@LieLikesMusic Damn bro you're trippin lol worship and tribute is a classic
Zen Arcade is a masterpiece still holds up to this day
Very solid album.
Still haven't listened all the way through. But my first impression is pretty good.
That and it's follow up New Day Rising are some of the most groundbreaking records of the 80s.
Good video. I believe it will be good that you mention their live shows, which were incredible in their energy and passion. I believe that their live shows were their selling point along with the music they play.
Does anyone remember At the Drive-In performing in Southern California in the very late 90s (MAYBE early 2000s at the very latest, but my memory says late 90s), at a small festival show called “At the Picnic” or something like that?
I went there just for them. Such a great performance!
I know you’ve already done Damon Albarn, but it would be really cool to see a full video on blur. They were huge in the UK at the time, so it would be interesting to hear about them from someone outside of the UK!
Please do a video on the 90's shoegaze music, and include "lush" and "pale saints" in it. I would be very grateful.
Mohammed Kortam This genre gets so little love 🌧
@@austintrousdale2397 I honestly dont know why. This genre is absolutely brilliant. When i first discovered it, the music took me by storm. Its not like the bands keep copying each other either. Every one is so unique. I can gush for hours over how much I like this genre in particular. But no one wants to read that :)
Slowdive
I’m actually from El Paso trying to bring shoegaze with my band. I love lush. Good stuff man
Thanks for the vid. Concise and educational.
No problemo
What an amazing video!
I personally really like Acrobatic Tenement a lot. Maybe cuz it was the first ATDI album I had and also, something about listening to music in high school, it really sticks with you. I just really liked the songs. But all their other stuff is amazing too. My second favorite is Vaya. I love that. And the Mars Volta, I love all of their stuff. I've learned lots of Omar's guitar parts. I never really got into sparta though. Maybe i should give them another shot.
Yes when you're young it's easy to get stuck in your tracks musically. It's the same for me. I still listen to music that i was introduced to at that time. YESS Vaya is fucking amazing. Their best EP imo. And yes it seems like we have the same taste then. TMV is also one of my favorites. Omar's solo stuff is a bit too weird for me in most cases.
Lie Likes Music lol yes exactly. I haven’t gotten into Omar’s solo stuff. maybe it’s because it’s too weird, but i’m also thinking it just might be because he has so much solo stuff. it’s hard to know where to start. it’s almost overwhelming how much stuff he puts out, so i guess i haven’t given it a proper chance. and yea i think we definitely have a similar taste in music. pretty much every video you put out are bands that i listen to.
If you want to hit Sparta running, it's probably Porcelain, imo. Most cohesive record they did.
If cohesion isn't a thing to you, Wiretap Scars works as well.
FangsFirst hmm alright i’ll start with Porcelain. i really always loved Jim Ward’s vocals along with Cedric’s old style...so maybe i’ll like Sparta. ima listen to them right now actually. thanks.
Definitely check out Wiretap Scars from Sparta, its excellent especially if you like the more melodic ATDI songs. And the drummer on Acrobatic Tenement was incredible, he's what made that album for me.
Why is Key and Peele on the thumbnail?
They're not that similar eheh
Ha! Never made that connection, now I can't unsee it.
I asure you this country song isn't racist.
Muito bom esse vídeo, gostei muito do roteiro, parabéns !
Husker Du, Glassjaw and At The Drive in are posthardcore and early proponents, but they are so different from eachother.
Zen Arcade sounds like punky garage, noise rock, kinda beatlesy, post-punkish with their track “What’s Going On”, almost Krautrocky, kind of Alternative Rock-ish with their track “Whatever” REM vibes.
Relationship of Command. Their first track Arcasanal gives of a funky salsa prog. Amost like a salsa-esque screaming version of Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Pattern Against The User gives off a punk vibe, One Armed Scissor gives off a djenty esque situation, Sleepwalk gives me a posthardcore vibe, Invalid Litter gives me post-punk vibe, Mannequin Republic gives me a punk vibe, Enfilade gives me a Bossa Nova meets Linkin Park vibe, Quarantined gives me a dub rock vibe.
13 Songs by Fugazi. Track one gives me a dub reggae vibe, almost funk but not funk. Grungy. Nirvana almost, I knownit was before Nirvana, so proto-Nirvana. Bulldog Front reminds me of Silversun Pickups, obviously they were before them, Bad Mouth almost sounds like pop-rock, Burning gives me an dark ambient industrial vibe. Give me the cure, not sure how to categorise this - experimental. Suggestion gives of a funk-esque vibe, Killing in the Name of Rage Against the Macchine vibes.
Cursive’s Domestica gives me a grungy vibe.
And then later bands sound nothing like these experimental bands. Bands like Jimmie Eat World, Hawthorne Heights, From First to Last, Thrice, Emery, Sleeping with Sirens, Saosin, Scary Kids Scaring Kids, Amity Affliction.
I am actually confused on what “pure” post-hardcore is. Are the later more polished and melodic
bands post-hardcore, or is it pop-punk, djent, what? And then the earlier ones are they “real” post hardcore because of the obscure melodies, and the angular chord progressions? I don’t know. I will never know. I need a full blown analysis. Lol
Love At the drive in
Ditto
Have you heard of alt-j ?
Jus tone comment: It's a mistake using Deftones as a reference to nu metal at around 11:15. They were never nu metal, just shoehorned in with the nu metal bands by their label.
Well i guess it depends how you define Nu Metal. What's your definition of it?
@@LieLikesMusic everything/everyone else but Deftones.
@@DGD4Landy slipknot also isnt nu-metal
@@boyman7823 fist álbum from Deftoned is Nu Metal, also Slipknot First álbum too.
So Nirvana wasn't grunge cause it was just a media label meant to shoehorn them into a category? That's just what genres are bud.
Man, I couldn't download the PDF and I need it for a research. Can you please re-upload it? Thank you kindly, great channel
This was such a great video. Loved it all the way through. Kinda wished you had talked about Sparta and The Mars Volta, and the return of At the Drive-in and their new album 17 years later. Overall, great job with the video.
Thanks Jonathan! Thanks for the feedback. Just so you know, i've already made a 3 part series about The Mars Volta.
Here's the link czcams.com/video/N9qeJEEZDKg/video.html
OMG do the Blood Brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strike With Chaos Productions Yes!!
@@archy3737 They really don't get the praise they deserve, oh the pictures they paint in your head of human depravity..
Red light sting after blood brothers
Wow, this is a great video! Big fan of ATDI here, very cool stuff! As for the next band? I dunno, ATDI is one of my favorites. I'd like to see a video on Smashing Pumpkins, Weezer or Interpol. Keep up the great vids, Lie! :)
Smashing Pumpkins seems to be a popular request. So i'll most likely do one about them. Thanks for the feedback dude!
I'm a big fan of ATDI too so i had a blast making this. Cheers from Norway!
@@LieLikesMusic Hehehe, just take your pick. I don't like people pushing for their band to see. I'd like to see your favorites, because sometimes that gets me into music I didn't know before. Cheers from The Netherlands! (According to Norway's own Ylvis our language doesn't exist, hahahaha - Oh, come to think of it: Understanding Ylvis? :P :P :P)
Thank ypu for your work. I truly like it. Cheers.
Thanks Lucas! It means a lot to me that you watch it. Any bands you wanna request for future videos?
@@LieLikesMusic keep on rocking, bro! Maybe more info on Omar's solo work or that Frusciante and Omar's record which seems to be the key to open the gates to a new and fascinating dimension...cheers!
Great piece man
Please do Television, Marquee Moon is a monumental album.
I always thought they sounded like a cross between Fugazi and Rage Against the Machine. I know that sounds weird LOL . The album Vaya was my favorite!
One of my favorite bands of all time! Napoleon Solo and One Armed Scissor, two of the best!! I've probably listened to the entirety of Relationship of Command 100x.
I thank the interwebs for giving me the opportunity to listen to At The Drive In.
Their songs are so dear to me.
Do a My Chemical Romance video, but without mentioning the word "emo"
Even though they're not emo, the word "emo" definitely had an influence on how they were perceived by the masses. I'm afraid that they are kinda inseparable from the word at the moment...
Any specific MCR album or song i should check out first?
Of course their most critically acclaimed album would be Welcome to the Black Parade- but any music from anywhere that you hear after that would just pale in comparison. Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge is another well- polished album that has a defined, interesting concept. I personally think all their songs sound amazing, but I am- of course- biased:)
@@LieLikesMusic Black Parade is their magnum opus. Three Cheers is what made them famous. The albums that came before (I gave you my bullets) and after (Danger Days) I think are still great.... I'd start on Black Parade. Theres a lot of Pink Floyd influence on there (Mama//The Trial, Black Parade//Happiest Days of their lives). AND WE ARE ALL STILL WAITING FOR A REUNION TOUR.
BigRedMu1e we’re gonna be waiting for a long fucking time for that reunion lmao. and i thought the same thing when i heard the wall for the first time! i went back and listened to the black parade and put two and two together. it was definitely influenced by the wall.
Good luck finding a basement in Texas.
Why aren't there basements in Texas?
@@LieLikesMusic cuz it's hot
@@LieLikesMusic no basements in florida either
They were selling out shows before Relationship of Command. It was their live performances that made them so popular.
Proper cool analysis man, ATDI is a really underrated band! All the videos on your channel are great, keep up the good work! Do something similar on Citizen, Title Fight or Basement, that would be grand as well!
They are def underrated. I thought these guys were the next Nirvana. Their timing and mix of influences took me back to when Nirvana broke in '91. Then they went on an indefinite hiatus and 9/11 happen. Post 9/11 seemed to mellow out music and also give garage rock bands like Strokes and Stripes an environment to play. Every band in my local seen wanted to be ATDI.