My friend: So what's the scariest movie you've ever seen? Mine's Legend Friend #2: the Conjuring Friend #3: Friday the 13th Friend #4: Scream Me: **sobbing tears of regret after remembering the horrifying time I watched Coraline in 3D when I was 7** Me: Coraline
At the end of the "Coraline" movie she threw the creepy hand of the beldam into an old well and in the 2017 movie "it" pennywise makes his home in the sewer which can accessed by a well under an old house. This is just another similarity between pennywise and the beldam that this video forgot to mention.
Bigger and better theory. Pennywise is every monster from the dark universe. And he doesn’t actually hibernate, he just moves to different places and becomes different things. It makes sense. Think it over people.
Not really. In the book the other mother was talking to Coraline and admitted to killing (and re-killing) her mother. A creature can't be it's own mother so at one point there were other beings in that universe even if (assuming pennywise and the beldam are the same like you said) it is prancing around and is the only one right now there are or were others
@@peaches7280 Well yeah, what you said just now makes sense, but penniwise can shapeshift, so there is a possibility he's just turning into other things.
Hey another similarity is that they become something to help them feed, for Peenywise it's usually a clown because a lot of people fear clowns. And for the Beldam it's a mother because a child loves it's mother
It doesn't turn into a clown because kids are afraid of them, It turned into a clown because they were supposed to be a friendly figure to lure children to It
CONSPIRACY THEORY: My theory about coraline. Is that the other mother had owned both worlds. Here’s why, How did coralines real mother know what key was used to unlock the door under the wallpaper? She scavenged through the drawer just to find that BLACK BUTTON KEY. The only way she could unlock the door with the right key the first time is if she already knew what key the door used to be unlocked, or just a extremely EXTREMELY good guess. any other person would have took the whole drawer of keys to unlock the door. at the end of the movie, the cat is on the sign that says “Pink Palace” . he disappears into a void leading to either a different place or possibly the other world. And the well that coraline goes to it also looks like the tunnel leading into the other world. possibly a pathway? the only way all of these things are possible, is if coralines other mother runs both worlds. If wyborn, and the circus mice were made out of soul sand, they couldn’t go into the “real” world. The only person from the other world that could go into coralines world was the other mother . which is weird considering the things in the other world are ALL made of soul sand. so why was the other mother allowed to go through? And as I said twice , this could only happen if coralines mother has accessibility into the real world. As if she didn’t run the real world she wouldn’t have been able to survive in the real world and travel through..
I had the unfortunate experience of watching IT at a friend's house when I was a child and I was terrified to take a shower for MONTHS. Hahahaha. It was an interesting experience to watch Rocky Horror Picture Show when I got a lot older and realize that Tim Curry is actually just hilarious.
damo you're an idiot..not only did she say that she watched it as a child (It 2017 was made a year ago), but she also mentioned Tim curry (he played It in the 50's miniseries)
Why are you guys saying the miniseries was from the 1950s??? The IT miniseries was from 1990. The IT novel itself was from 1986. Literally nothing came before that.
7:52 It would've been hilarious if Maturin was more like Crush. I imagine when Bill is in the macroverse during the ritual of Chud, beating up Pennywise: 'You so totally rock, dude!'
@@rocklobster340 The Beldam was trying to lure in coraline the same pennywise does the reason why she killed is beacause she didnt want any any inference
No I think the Beldom might be the child of pennywise since pennywise is infact female and has had eggs and the deadlights (the true form of pennywise) was born from another extradimentional being along with the turtle (its weird I know)
Beldam was inspired on a poem by John Keats way back in 1819.It's called "La Belle Dame sans Merci", which translates to "The Beautiful Woman without Mercy", The poem is about a knight who meets a "full beautiful...faery's child" with "wild" eyes . She takes the knight "to her elfin grot," where she enchants him, but he dreams of others--"pale kings, and princes too"--who warn him that she has him in her thrall. The M.O. of the Other Mother and the warnings of the ghost children to Coraline about what the Other Mother did to them are echoes of Keats' poem. SOME PARTS OF THE POEM: "I met a lady in the meads, Full beautiful -a faery's child, Her hair was long, her foot was light, And her eyes were wild. I made a garland for her head, And bracelets too, and fragrant zone; She looked at me as she did love, And made sweet moan. I set her on my pacing steed, And nothing else saw all day long, For sidelong would she bend, and sing A faery's song. She found me roots of relish sweet, And honey wild, and manna dew, And sure in language strange she said `I love thee true.' She took me to her elfin grot, And there she wept, and sighed full sore, And there I shut her wild wild eyes With kisses four. And there she lulled me asleep, And there I dreamed -Ah! woe betide! The latest dream I ever dreamed On the cold hill's side. I saw pale kings and princes too, Pale warriors, death-pale were they all; They cried -`La Belle Dame sans Merci Hath thee in thrall!'
"spiders are one of the most common fears in humans... I know! let's put a different image of a spider on screen for an extended period every time we say spider!" Arachnophobes do not watch :/
No hate on the new Pennywise though! I love both adaptions but Tim Curry literally scared me so much as a kid I couldn't use the bathroom by myself for months. The newer Pennywise is weirdly cute in design lol
Coraline has always been and always will be my favorite stop motion animation movie!!! I love it so much and the original book/comic (Cause there's also a comic book of Coraline that I love)
+Hayley Jury I didn't know whether you meant an actual comic or the kind of comics that are found online (silly me for immediately presuming the latter, LOL). Anyway, if it isn't available via an online link you know of; don't worry about searching for it. It's not the end of the world! 💕✨😊✨💕
Coraline creeped me out when I was left alone at home. I didn't have any tech at the time so I was forced to watch it. It was only 4-5 years ago. I was 7 at the time. I had to watch it, like, 7 times! I got scared each time. Especially that circus guy.
TheGamer'sMelody I thought you meant something in it or penny wise and wanted to say same but then I guessed that you meant something in the video soo I thanks for the warning
@@Charles12but did Tim not Produce it & the characters were based off early doodles within his Career? Like I'm not dissing Henry Whatsoever & absolutely love his works & respect his ability to create Stop Motion. However I feel like when it comes to a project on them meeting like Nightmare Before Christmas without one you can't have the other. Those were Tims Concepts & Henrys skills combined to create that film. On other films like Coraline since they didn't work together & the fact it is a Neil Gaiman story that is different.
There were a couple other points I wanted to mention in this video that had to be cut out for time, but they included such details as the Deadlights and how that could contribute to the differences between the creatures, as well as the fact that it's revealed Pennywise can reproduce, so what could that mean? Not to mention the Beldam's penchant for "games". Could the playfulness of both Pennywise and The Beldam be another point of similarity? And lastly, if you want more tangential ramblings about IT, check out my personal channel where last Halloween I took a look at why we should give jump scares a chance! bit.ly/2DqFP6J Hope you all enjoyed this week's episode!
Is there a difference between Cosmic Horror and Dark Fantasybecause they way you described it makes them sound alot alike I'm curious to hear your view on the philoshical and literal differences
FanDumb_ My opinion isn't worth much here, but personally, I feel like Cosmic Horror has an overall more cynical and nihilistic attitude toward itself - focusing more on despair than the intrigue presented by the unknowable. In Dark Fantasy, the monster can be defeated, or madness can be overcome. But Cosmic Horror has no need or care for those things
At 6:41 yes it is true she needs to eat people to survive so when her hand gotten smash like at the end of Coraline then the beldam starts to break apart. She is called a beldam because she is old and she is a witch.
The turtle might be the cat...... as you said pennywise’ s true form is incomprehensible so he takes in a common fear of everyone. Maybe the turtle turns into something people like, like a turtle or a cat
or a........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................bat i love those things
Does anyone else hate when they videos say that people are scared of spiders, then they show a spider, and you're actually afraid of spiders. It happens to me and I hate it every time.
I love this theory so much and definitely support the Beldam and Pennywise being the same creature. To answer your second question even though I haven't seen the new adaptation of It I still prefer Tim Curry's version
Ever since we really started talking about the beldam and what she might really be I had this image in my head that she's like a mole cricket, with a den, and she uses her lights like a strobe light. the flickering probably sends people into a catatonic state where she psychically forces them into their own minds, nourishing their body while feeding off of their Essence as she slowly gets them to surrender their own mind. so the whole movie would have started the minute she opened the door and crawled down and deep enough into the tunnel to get flashed by the eyes of the beldam, sent into a psychic coma, grabbed and then pasted up along the side of the den, force-fed food to her unconscious body while slowly subduing her through psychic interaction until she inevitably locked herself in her own mind.
Not to mention the fact that all of the adults in Derry are completely unaware of Pennywise and forget or are oblivious to interactions with him and that this then happens in Coraline as well when her parents completely forget they were kidnapped and are unable to see the snow caused by the Beldam.
I need to point this out the Beldam doesn’t eat her prey, she convinces her victims to sew button eyes in their eyes to live happily ever after with her, but the 3 victims she already succeeded with did so technically she didn’t eat them.
You guys mentioned this a few times now, so I just want to say the Turtle of Creation wasn't Stephen King's original idea. It's a spiritual ideology, though I don't know what religion(s) it originated in. Hollywood loves playing with the Turtle's representation for some reason. There was even one in Never Ending Story.
Kase Cuthbertson I agree. The human brain is so complex, it's amazing that so many different people can imagine the same construct, and it's interesting to see all the different ways media has taken the idea and ran with it. I love mythology and cartoons, so it's fun to see theories that connect the two, but it only really works when the information is correct, well-researched and the connection is difficult to deny. SuperCarlinBrothers seem to be the only ones with this formula mastered. To be fair though, this video didn't have much to do with the Turtle of Creation, I just had to say something about it lol
When that spider came on the screen I literally jumped. And then there were like 5 more 😑. The spiders are on the screen at 10:44 and 11:59 and 12:51 for anyone else who is scared.
For any of you that are completely lost. As a major coraline fan and It fan it is my pleasure to explain.........The other mother can turn Into any parent (things most kids love). Pennywise can turn into things children are scared of.#2 Both of the creatures can only EAT children ( The other mother feeds off of the children's love they show her). ( pennywise feeds off of the children's fear they show him/ her/ it)
I feel like pennywise and the boggart from harry potter are the same species their original form is unknown they use peoples fears and lupin never said what would happen if they don't say riddikulus and when he saw the dementor come for harry he had to stand in front of him like if the boggart would have harmed him.
i full heartedly agree that the monsters r the SAME species just different kind "any bug expert or animal expert would know species and kind r 2 different words in this instant"
13:44 *MEME ME! MEME ME! ME-ME-ME-ME-MEME ME! MEME ME! MEME ME! ME-ME-ME-ME-MEME ME!* Only people who have seen Nostalgia Critic's review of IT would get that.
I don't think they are the same species but I think like spiders they could be related species. From a biology stand point "spider" is a broad category there are several different species that are spiders. So they could be related species in the same category (family, class, etc). I prefer the new pennywise because while Tim Curry is Funny, funny isn't what a horror movie is supposed to be.
Yeah, Terra came back because thee prophecy states that all flesh should be turned to stone, and they all turned back to flesh because Raven defeated trigon. There is a chance that Terra turned back to flesh because of it.
Moondoria As A Matter Of Fact, I Have Seen On BlameItOnJorge's Channel A Video He Had About The Saddest Finales Of Popular Kids Shows If You've Heard Of It And That Terra Wanted A New Life For Herself Because If She Wanted To Use Her Powers Again, It Would Remind Her Of What She Used To Be!
It's been a while but I remember when I looked it up after seeing the movie all I got was info on the book (how I even found out there WAS a book) and some poem...
Alberts Choise Bloody Butterfly She was a woman who used to live thereBack Whe the Town was founded or sum and that's all i remember at the moment but like there is a whole story behind her just look up "story of the beldam" or sum
This one might be pretty crazy... But hear us out!!
What should we do next on Cartoon Conspiracy?!
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See if IT has a chance of connecting to anything else? By the way, game theory also did this already, but he connects it to other things.
ChannelFrederator. I like the way the new Pennywise looks but the Tim Curry’s voice for Pennywise is a million times better
Mason2003man Gaming Fellow Theorist, how ya doing ?
Did you all so realize both Coraline and Georgie both where yellow rain coats and boots
Life Of Ali wow, I actually didn't until u said lol
Life Of Ali i did until i found your comment.
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My friend: So what's the scariest movie you've ever seen? Mine's Legend
Friend #2: the Conjuring
Friend #3: Friday the 13th
Friend #4: Scream
Me: **sobbing tears of regret after remembering the horrifying time I watched Coraline in 3D when I was 7**
Me: Coraline
Scream, really?
FLITZ GAMING its her friend not her that thinks scream is scary
@Manuel Camelo It's about neglect and child abuse, so yeah, it's pretty grim.
ILikeChocolate09 oh I did the same thing when I was 7 I’m 10 now. Never again
#relatable i was 5 and i was soooo scared wen my sister and mum were watchig it on cd and i died
At the end of the "Coraline" movie she threw the creepy hand of the beldam into an old well and in the 2017 movie "it" pennywise makes his home in the sewer which can accessed by a well under an old house. This is just another similarity between pennywise and the beldam that this video forgot to mention.
Nota Kittie i agree at the end of it (2017) pennywise ends up going down in the well
the well is actually the real entrance to the other world in coraline, the door in the house is really just another smaller entrance
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@@cre6144 the door turns out to be a mouth doesnt it
Bigger and better theory. Pennywise is every monster from the dark universe. And he doesn’t actually hibernate, he just moves to different places and becomes different things. It makes sense. Think it over people.
Not really. In the book the other mother was talking to Coraline and admitted to killing (and re-killing) her mother. A creature can't be it's own mother so at one point there were other beings in that universe even if (assuming pennywise and the beldam are the same like you said) it is prancing around and is the only one right now there are or were others
@@peaches7280 Well yeah, what you said just now makes sense, but penniwise can shapeshift, so there is a possibility he's just turning into other things.
Think IT over
Welcome To My World it would make sense
He waited 27 years
"Spiders are scary"
*pullS up the cutest spider in history*
You mean Lucas?
*Despacito*
@@idiotgoddess2114 smells like teen spirit
You forgot the most important thing!
The yellow raincoats.
OMG 250 LIKES?!?
300 LIKES!!!?!!
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Omg YES
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And one of the parents play piano
i saw that to
Me? I got included in something? Thank you guys so much! *sobbing happy tears*
Of course! Your idea of comparing the Beldam to other monsters and mythologies was a fantastic idea! If only we had more time to explore it!
awesome the fangirl your famous now
When j saw the title I thought they might just rip you off
The Fangirl hi
you defently deserve it!!!!
Hey another similarity is that they become something to help them feed, for Peenywise it's usually a clown because a lot of people fear clowns. And for the Beldam it's a mother because a child loves it's mother
lol "peenywise"
It doesn't turn into a clown because kids are afraid of them, It turned into a clown because they were supposed to be a friendly figure to lure children to It
Pennywise not peenywise it’s funny but just fix it if u know how to edit
@@theohendricks8634 ok
CONSPIRACY THEORY:
My theory about coraline. Is that the other mother had owned both worlds. Here’s why,
How did coralines real mother know what key was used to unlock the door under the wallpaper? She scavenged through the drawer just to find that BLACK BUTTON KEY. The only way she could unlock the door with the right key the first time is if she already knew what key the door used to be unlocked, or just a extremely EXTREMELY good guess. any other person would have took the whole drawer of keys to unlock the door. at the end of the movie, the cat is on the sign that says “Pink Palace” . he disappears into a void leading to either a different place or possibly the other world. And the well that coraline goes to it also looks like the tunnel leading into the other world. possibly a pathway? the only way all of these things are possible, is if coralines other mother runs both worlds. If wyborn, and the circus mice were made out of soul sand, they couldn’t go into the “real” world. The only person from the other world that could go into coralines world was the other mother . which is weird considering the things in the other world are ALL made of soul sand. so why was the other mother allowed to go through? And as I said twice , this could only happen if coralines mother has accessibility into the real world. As if she didn’t run the real world she wouldn’t have been able to survive in the real world and travel through..
Theorizer? Is that u? Lol
What if Coraline’s real mother is the same as the Other Mother. Idk it doesn’t make sense, but it could be interesting lol.
900flyingmuffins imagine tho cause how did coralines mom know that button key unlocked the door..
UwU good thinking but it was covered in paper to hide something. they would tell her that black key is used to unlock the door under the wallpaper
yes I was soo confused when I saw coraline's real mom choose the correct key
I had the unfortunate experience of watching IT at a friend's house when I was a child and I was terrified to take a shower for MONTHS. Hahahaha. It was an interesting experience to watch Rocky Horror Picture Show when I got a lot older and realize that Tim Curry is actually just hilarious.
witch one 2017 or the 1950s IT
damo you're an idiot..not only did she say that she watched it as a child (It 2017 was made a year ago), but she also mentioned Tim curry (he played It in the 50's miniseries)
Sunbeam facts tho
Why are you guys saying the miniseries was from the 1950s??? The IT miniseries was from 1990. The IT novel itself was from 1986. Literally nothing came before that.
Dude the exact same thing happened to me
You forgot one thing
Coraline and Georgie both have yellow raincoats
Woah, mind=blown
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WOWWWERS WOSERSAEWAWS OMG
aAAAH
7:52 It would've been hilarious if Maturin was more like Crush.
I imagine when Bill is in the macroverse during the ritual of Chud, beating up Pennywise: 'You so totally rock, dude!'
I thought Bill cipher was every one nightmare to deal with 😱😱😱😱👹👹👹💀
Who else agrees with me, we need a sequel to Coraline?
I do.
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
If a sequel is an afterthought, then it will probably be bad.
Ppppppprrrroooooooooooooooobbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuuubblllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
No, it's perfect as is. A sequel would probably be some sort of cash grab that isn't even made by Laika.
Not just the same species. SIBLINGS!!!
MinecraftLife56 that's what I thought !!
And in the book Coraline, it is implied that the other mother killed her mother. What would that mean for it?
@@rocklobster340 The Beldam was trying to lure in coraline the same pennywise does the reason why she killed is beacause she didnt want any any inference
No I think the Beldom might be the child of pennywise since pennywise is infact female and has had eggs and the deadlights (the true form of pennywise) was born from another extradimentional being along with the turtle (its weird I know)
Coraline is scarier than IT. I'm not the only one who thinks this right?
Moana Of Motunui id agree considering I was able to man up and watch IT, but I’m still too scared to watch coralline
Caroline gave me seriously bad nightmares as a kid
*Coroline
Moana Of Motunui the only scene from IT that freaked me out the most was the flute lady..
Pennywise can shapeshift so he can shapeshift to the mother in Coroline
7:06 how did i speak without speaking?? This is some magic over here
Beldam was inspired on a poem by John Keats way back in 1819.It's called "La Belle Dame sans Merci", which translates to "The Beautiful Woman without Mercy",
The poem is about a knight who meets a "full beautiful...faery's child" with "wild" eyes
. She takes the knight "to her elfin grot," where she enchants him, but he dreams of others--"pale kings, and princes too"--who warn him that she has him in her thrall. The M.O. of the Other Mother and the warnings of the ghost children to Coraline about what the Other Mother did to them are echoes of Keats' poem.
SOME PARTS OF THE POEM:
"I met a lady in the meads,
Full beautiful -a faery's child,
Her hair was long, her foot was light,
And her eyes were wild.
I made a garland for her head,
And bracelets too, and fragrant zone;
She looked at me as she did love,
And made sweet moan.
I set her on my pacing steed,
And nothing else saw all day long,
For sidelong would she bend, and sing
A faery's song.
She found me roots of relish sweet,
And honey wild, and manna dew,
And sure in language strange she said
`I love thee true.'
She took me to her elfin grot,
And there she wept, and sighed full sore,
And there I shut her wild wild eyes
With kisses four.
And there she lulled me asleep,
And there I dreamed -Ah! woe betide!
The latest dream I ever dreamed
On the cold hill's side.
I saw pale kings and princes too,
Pale warriors, death-pale were they all;
They cried -`La Belle Dame sans Merci
Hath thee in thrall!'
No she is not the whole movie is based off his daughter's dream
James and the Giant Peach doesn't get nearly enough love. Someone needs to fix that.
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*~looks at team Frederator~*
Mr Skysen Games I think it’s a classic 🙂💕
When pennywise “salts the meat” does that mean he just makes kids sweat.....sweat is salty after all
"spiders are one of the most common fears in humans... I know! let's put a different image of a spider on screen for an extended period every time we say spider!" Arachnophobes do not watch :/
LOLS
I hate spiders
I know he put it on more than once aswell
@@BMoney8600 well because that spider is a yokai
Amanda these creatures are yokai do some research and look around these theory
You, my man, are a legend.
Vapourwaves Try The Theorizer. He has plenty of theories about Coraline.
Tim Curry's Pennywise is the scarier Pennywise. The design is strangely more unsettling, his voice fit the character, his portrayal was just *so good*
No hate on the new Pennywise though! I love both adaptions but Tim Curry literally scared me so much as a kid I couldn't use the bathroom by myself for months. The newer Pennywise is weirdly cute in design lol
A Turtle I kind of think the actor of the new penny wise has a baby face and it's not really scary for me
beenibaby lol baby face
think the new one is scarier. The old on wasn't that scary to me.
Coraline has always been and always will be my favorite stop motion animation movie!!! I love it so much and the original book/comic (Cause there's also a comic book of Coraline that I love)
Hayley Jury WHERE DO YOU GET THE COMIC BOOK???? I loved the book!
Omg; YES!! Please share a link to this! I'd totally LOVE to see a comic-version of "Coraline"!! 💕✨😍✨💕
Rachel Hunter i'll try to find one but I'm not sure if i will
+Hayley Jury I didn't know whether you meant an actual comic or the kind of comics that are found online (silly me for immediately presuming the latter, LOL). Anyway, if it isn't available via an online link you know of; don't worry about searching for it. It's not the end of the world! 💕✨😊✨💕
Rachel Hunter Yeah haha it's not online the only ones I've ever seen are in libraries
What’s your scariest movie
Friend one: it
Friend two: pet semetary
Me: coralline
Pennywise true form is a orange or yellow light.
Coraline creeped me out when I was left alone at home. I didn't have any tech at the time so I was forced to watch it. It was only 4-5 years ago. I was 7 at the time. I had to watch it, like, 7 times! I got scared each time. Especially that circus guy.
Nobody The Amazing Bobinski
Also apparently the cat doesn't exist in the book. The animators gave coraline the cat so she wouldn't be talking to herself in the movie.
Christina Moore cat was in the book, wybie was not
Solstice Peltier whoops my bad ;O I knew it was one of those characters! Thanks for the correction XO
honestly i never read the book but what if the being lurking in the tunnel is pennywise? and or the cat?
Wybie wasn’t the cat was
You're thinking of wybie
That moment when a spider shows up and you're an arachnophobe.
Like...I would've appreciated a little warning before the spider showed up...
TheGamer'sMelody I thought you meant something in it or penny wise and wanted to say same but then I guessed that you meant something in the video soo I thanks for the warning
i had the screen close it scared the heck outa me.
same fam
TheGamer'sMelody Same
Same
"Spiders are a common fear for humans."
Me seeing Pennywise in his true form.:AWW... Sorry but I love spiders
I love Coraline and IT they are in my top 5 favourite movies so I really want them to be connected
*favorite
What are the others
New IT isnt really a good movie and Old IT is basically a comedy.
Jewell TH Not really. The old It was hilarious though.
Me too!
I love when people point out how Tim Burton didn’t touch Coraline!! Thank you 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Yeah because Henry Selick deserves all the credit, even for Nightmare
@@Charles12but did Tim not Produce it & the characters were based off early doodles within his Career? Like I'm not dissing Henry Whatsoever & absolutely love his works & respect his ability to create Stop Motion. However I feel like when it comes to a project on them meeting like Nightmare Before Christmas without one you can't have the other. Those were Tims Concepts & Henrys skills combined to create that film. On other films like Coraline since they didn't work together & the fact it is a Neil Gaiman story that is different.
Great now I'm imagining the beldam doing pennywise's dance
That would look hideous but, kinda hot too :P
Clownfish Sushi now I am too
Coraline 2: she meets "it" and leads it to the beldam hahahaha better than Freddy vs Jason
OMG WHAT IF THE THREE CHILDREN ARE LOCK SHOCK AND BARREL!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Darkgamer 32 OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG
But ghosts are 2 girls 1 boy and lock shock and barrel are 2 boys and 1 girl
That's what i thought too.
+ neon voodoo doll barrel could be a girl for all we know.There is a thing as tomboys.
OMG. I HAVENT THOUGHT OF THAT!
@@neonvoodoodoll9308 One of them could be transgender then.
CORALINE SAYS TRANS RIGHTS
I love coraline it is one of my favorite movies
There were a couple other points I wanted to mention in this video that had to be cut out for time, but they included such details as the Deadlights and how that could contribute to the differences between the creatures, as well as the fact that it's revealed Pennywise can reproduce, so what could that mean? Not to mention the Beldam's penchant for "games". Could the playfulness of both Pennywise and The Beldam be another point of similarity?
And lastly, if you want more tangential ramblings about IT, check out my personal channel where last Halloween I took a look at why we should give jump scares a chance! bit.ly/2DqFP6J
Hope you all enjoyed this week's episode!
Sandwichy, Pennywise does NOT need to be able to reproduce. It’s bad enough Harley and Joker had a kid together. And they’re just normal crazy.)
Is there a difference between Cosmic Horror and Dark Fantasybecause they way you described it makes them sound alot alike I'm curious to hear your view on the philoshical and literal differences
FanDumb_ My opinion isn't worth much here, but personally, I feel like Cosmic Horror has an overall more cynical and nihilistic attitude toward itself - focusing more on despair than the intrigue presented by the unknowable. In Dark Fantasy, the monster can be defeated, or madness can be overcome. But Cosmic Horror has no need or care for those things
Sandwichy hey i think that maybe the button eyes have some similarity with the deadlighta
Sandwichy u forgot about the yellow rain coat
I freakin love Coraline!
Juno Okubo ive nevrr watched it
Roses are red i think ill marry someone named parry to me this movie is freakin scary
Iris Jaffe I'm not mad good try
I love the movie:D
Juno Okubo me too
I'm uncomfortable with the amount of real spiders that were shown in this video😲😷😫
At 6:41 yes it is true she needs to eat people to survive so when her hand gotten smash like at the end of Coraline then the beldam starts to break apart. She is called a beldam because she is old and she is a witch.
These are literally two of my absolute FAVORITE movies!
THE 1ST YT VID THAT DIDN'T CALL PENNYWISE A DEMON. THANK YOU👏👏👏👏
Afangirltocool * But Pennywise is technically a Demon for example just watch IT behind the scenes
WildFire1013 actually Pennywise is not a demon but a ancient creature.
Afangirltocool * pennywise is a god like being as old as Time
Hes deadlight
It: not scary at all
Coraline: terrifying
IT: not scary at all
Coraline: not scary at all
@@propanonator9800 I didn't pesonaly find the original IT scary at all either.
She’s feeds from spirit
Lol
ChannelFrederator: His true form is a spider.
IT: Chapter 2: I'm gonna ruin this man's entire career. *Shows his true form as a human.*
The turtle might be the cat...... as you said pennywise’ s true form is incomprehensible so he takes in a common fear of everyone. Maybe the turtle turns into something people like, like a turtle or a cat
or a........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................bat i love those things
Hello fellow 2d
Sry I just get excited when I see a fellow fan ;w;
Coraline and IT are probably my favourite films.
Yeah
I think these two examples are just a step below Lovecraftian Horror, which is a sub-genre of horror.
Coralline and georgie both have a yellow raincoat
Just saying
Coraline mortified me as a child
Does anyone else hate when they videos say that people are scared of spiders, then they show a spider, and you're actually afraid of spiders. It happens to me and I hate it every time.
When i saw the title to this i was like...
WHAT?!
Winter Wine same XD
JonTron: W H A T ? !
Winter Wine same
Winter Wine same
What
In the new IT Pennywise doesn’t eat the body. He just eats the souls. That’s why They All Float Down Here...🎈
Is that Torterra
Yes
I love this theory so much and definitely support the Beldam and Pennywise being the same creature. To answer your second question even though I haven't seen the new adaptation of It I still prefer Tim Curry's version
STOP SHOWING SPIDER PICTURES, I'M LOOKING FOR MY FLAMETHROWER!
Lol
FINALLY!! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A CORALINE VIDEO FOR YEARS!!
Ever since we really started talking about the beldam and what she might really be I had this image in my head that she's like a mole cricket, with a den, and she uses her lights like a strobe light. the flickering probably sends people into a catatonic state where she psychically forces them into their own minds, nourishing their body while feeding off of their Essence as she slowly gets them to surrender their own mind. so the whole movie would have started the minute she opened the door and crawled down and deep enough into the tunnel to get flashed by the eyes of the beldam, sent into a psychic coma, grabbed and then pasted up along the side of the den, force-fed food to her unconscious body while slowly subduing her through psychic interaction until she inevitably locked herself in her own mind.
okay
Nice.
I’m not sure what just happened
Lane Allen That is a great theory
So, he has worked with Tim Burton and Laika? Cool. No wonder people wrongly associate Tim with Coraline.
People'll probably do the same with Wendell and Wild, but hopefully Jordan Peele with his clout will clear that confusion
Not to mention the fact that all of the adults in Derry are completely unaware of Pennywise and forget or are oblivious to interactions with him and that this then happens in Coraline as well when her parents completely forget they were kidnapped and are unable to see the snow caused by the Beldam.
Penywise is a shapeshifter witch can mean it can be the belldam
The Spider isnt ITs actual Form.
His real form is unfathomable to us.
He is an extra dimensional being trapped in this one.
He isnt a spider
Darius Manson he said that
I need to point this out the Beldam doesn’t eat her prey, she convinces her victims to sew button eyes in their eyes to live happily ever after with her, but the 3 victims she already succeeded with did so technically she didn’t eat them.
but didnt the ghosts say 'then she ate us up alive'?
Grace McAfee after she does that she eats them. Remember the ghost kids all died because of the mother
Grace McAfee you're tihht
He mentioned that
Grace McAfee *She ate they're soul's ad Pennywise ate the people and fear so.. your right and wrong*
Why does he look like Al from "Home Improvement"?
It's also kinda funny that both Coraline and Georgie wears a yellow raincoat
what if pennywise and the beldam are the same creatures but male and female
Ayush Sunuwar Pennywise is female.
@@Andrewmarkworth OOOOOH
You guys mentioned this a few times now, so I just want to say the Turtle of Creation wasn't Stephen King's original idea. It's a spiritual ideology, though I don't know what religion(s) it originated in. Hollywood loves playing with the Turtle's representation for some reason. There was even one in Never Ending Story.
Kase Cuthbertson That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. Thank you for explaining, the Turtle is really interesting!
Kase Cuthbertson I agree. The human brain is so complex, it's amazing that so many different people can imagine the same construct, and it's interesting to see all the different ways media has taken the idea and ran with it. I love mythology and cartoons, so it's fun to see theories that connect the two, but it only really works when the information is correct, well-researched and the connection is difficult to deny. SuperCarlinBrothers seem to be the only ones with this formula mastered. To be fair though, this video didn't have much to do with the Turtle of Creation, I just had to say something about it lol
When that spider came on the screen I literally jumped. And then there were like 5 more 😑.
The spiders are on the screen at 10:44 and 11:59 and 12:51 for anyone else who is scared.
people just don't understand do they...
That emo spider especially
god bless you
Thanks
I jumped every time the word spider was said
I am a massive arachnophobe
For any of you that are completely lost. As a major coraline fan and It fan it is my pleasure to explain.........The other mother can turn Into any parent (things most kids love). Pennywise can turn into things children are scared of.#2 Both of the creatures can only EAT children ( The other mother feeds off of the children's love they show her). ( pennywise feeds off of the children's fear they show him/ her/ it)
coraline has the same raincoat as georgy
More bee and puppycat
CORALINE IS MY FAVORITE MOVIE ITS AWSOME. I LOVE LOVE LOVE CORALINE.
I feel like pennywise and the boggart from harry potter are the same species their original form is unknown they use peoples fears and lupin never said what would happen if they don't say riddikulus and when he saw the dementor come for harry he had to stand in front of him like if the boggart would have harmed him.
glowingsquiggles ye true
i full heartedly agree that the monsters r the SAME species just different kind "any bug expert or animal expert would know species and kind r 2 different words in this instant"
9:44 Doki Doki 😱😍
WEEKENDERS FOR THE WIN!!!!!! THAT WAS MY FAVORITE SHOW AND NO ONE KNOWS IT. Subscribing for this reason
Thought that i was the only one that knew what the weekenders was. #ReadyForTheWeekend
Curry for laughs. Skarsgard for scares.
Hah Keith's voice is far away from Morgan Freeman's
It's true
Keith David's voice is MILES AHEAD FIGHT ME
Doki reference (click) nice
13:44 *MEME ME! MEME ME! ME-ME-ME-ME-MEME ME! MEME ME! MEME ME! ME-ME-ME-ME-MEME ME!*
Only people who have seen Nostalgia Critic's review of IT would get that.
I see that clone high refrence
You ain’t slick
So pennywise is bidoof
Ronaldo Casiano facts
We need part 2 of Coraline !
Why after watching, I was like maybe she he female version and he’s the male version of their species
Javier Rentas aka Javi pennywise is a female
I ship them.LOL
Yooo pennywise when he opend his mouth he looked like the monster from strangerthings
I don't think they are the same species but I think like spiders they could be related species. From a biology stand point "spider" is a broad category there are several different species that are spiders. So they could be related species in the same category (family, class, etc). I prefer the new pennywise because while Tim Curry is Funny, funny isn't what a horror movie is supposed to be.
That is not pennywise true form.
Pennywise's true form is an orange destructive light
That live in the macroverse
AmirulD random Joker
He means the old version
Irrelevant. That's not It's true form either.
it is the novel says so
www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/pennywise-isnt-really-demon-clown-exactly/
Instead of macroverse, I thought you said microwave
....why would you put a spider on the screen. That's not love Channel Frederator... that's not love at all *shudders*
Coraline: How can you talk?🤨
Cat: I JUST CAN.
10:33
coraline is wearing a jacket similar to georgies when he died
I hear a deathbattle
Bobby Catfish you mean pennywise vs Coraline
are we just gonna ignore the fact that theres a fidget spinner in pennywises mouth
Billy Gressett .
They're dead lights, not a fidget spinner
Huh?
Do you think Terra came back in Teen Titans because of Trigon?
Moondoria ive never thought about that
Yeah, Terra came back because thee prophecy states that all flesh should be turned to stone, and they all turned back to flesh because Raven defeated trigon. There is a chance that Terra turned back to flesh because of it.
Moondoria As A Matter Of Fact, I Have Seen On BlameItOnJorge's Channel A Video He Had About The Saddest Finales Of Popular Kids Shows If You've Heard Of It And That Terra Wanted A New Life For Herself Because If She Wanted To Use Her Powers Again, It Would Remind Her Of What She Used To Be!
Never heard of him.
Do you have Albert in a can?
You DO?
WELL.YOU'D BETTER LET THE POOR GUY OUT!
The fact, that that Film Theory also maked a video about IT and Mary Poppins, who also seems to eat on happiness, make this Theory even more possible.
I thought the music was from Little Nightmares
I mean the beldam does have a back story just look it up lol uhhhh
oof
O O O O O O O O O F F F F F F F F F F F
tell me
It's been a while but I remember when I looked it up after seeing the movie all I got was info on the book (how I even found out there WAS a book) and some poem...
Alberts Choise
Bloody Butterfly
She was a woman who used to live thereBack Whe the Town was founded or sum and that's all i remember at the moment but like there is a whole story behind her just look up "story of the beldam" or sum
You flout too
Iwan Thepro2 *Float
I'm gonna flout?!
My arms they stretch to forever. I have dreamt my eyes tracing rings around this world
10:53 Now I'm picturing the turtle panicking while witnessing us going to the moon.