New Thames crossing - BBC London
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- It's set to be the biggest road construction project since the M25. A huge tunnel between Kent and Essex which should alleviate congestion on the Dartford Crossing. But environmentalists say it will create more traffic and pollution. Charlotte Wright reports.
When the BBC editing team can't remove noise from the drone lmao
I laughed when I heard the drone, they can't even edit even though I could've done that when I was 12.
With all respect that old fella will not even get to see it finished.
Not just that but it will only slightly increase traffic for his one trip leaving the house a week to pop down to the shops.
These people live on the boundaries of London and keep complaining about traffic. I wonder what they'd do if they lived in London
Only the left channel has audio... ☹️
Ye
Ask for your money back!
left channel of my headphones doesn’t work 😂😂 knew something was up
yeah. the bbc does that
The drone footage was really silly.
Konrad My haha yeah you’d think the bbc would remove the excess noise. I actually laughed out loud when it flew away and got loud
Just watch three news and stop moaning at everything.
Really unprofessional!!!
Konrad My u
Lmao
One minor/major incident in and around Dartford Crossing results in the whole of Dartford, Crayford, Bexleyheath, and Welling(4 - 5 places) being traffic jammed.
don't forget erith
first make it bloody 5 lanes across not 3. Second of all if it's built using tax payers money DON'T CHARGE ME TO USE IT !!!
* Don't let the french charge me to use it.
A few things need to be addressed here. a) two 5 lane tunnels will be cost prohibitive, it won't happen. b) it will be a DBFO, the idea being only the people who use the tunnel are the ones who should pay for it. Your Mk1 punter who lives in Leeds and only takes their car to the Tesco superstore shouldn't have to pay for a tunnel 140 miles away that only you use and has no direct benefit to them.
Or do you want your income tax to go up by 6% to pay for the M4 Severn Crossing and the M6 Toll Road which I doubt you have ever seen, let alone frequent on a daily basis
@@bombaymolotov But I do pay for the person in Leeds who pops to Tescos benefits 😂😂
The A2 and M25 are only dual-four lanes, dual-five lanes in the tunnel would be ludicrous.
Tarantis We in the south east have paid for the bridge 5 times over already, the extra money we have paid has been funding things that probably benefit you.
When the M25 was build they only made 3 lanes, 25 years later they increased it to 4, the upgrade cost more than the original construction and is a dogs dinner smart highway. Build it big now so it is future proof.
The congestion in this area is beyond belief, 200 people slept in Ikea a few months ago as the bridge was closed! A high percentage of our GDP comes from the south east so when we have blockages the whole country is loosing money.
Would it be free like the dartford crossing is SUPPOSED to be
No, because it would become over-saturared with people trying to dodge the charge at Dartford.
@@ninesquared81 here’s an idea.. make them both free.
@@charlie1701 Or better yet. Once the bridge is paid for, the tolls will be scrapped.
It worked for the Forth Bridge, Edinburgh and Severn Crossings, Wales
meanwhile in Northumberland the A1 still hasnt been dueld
geordie traveler disgrace
Meanwhile the Woodhead Pass is still terrible.
It will probably done sometime in the next century.
We need a new regional party to get any decent funding. The London centric MPs will keep on overspending on the South East. They have been pushing this divisive agenda for 50 years now.
Meanwhile in the north as well it apparently takes months to resurface the A1M
No matter how much capacity they put in, the traffic will fill it. We need to get the trucks and cars off the road.
because trucks are the only way to transport goods amirite
Bicycles are a solution to everything.
Supporter van de Europese Unie Can’t wait to transport a fridge on my bicycle.
@@qasimamin1996 gonna use a tricycle to haul a container down the m25
Meanwhile, as the crow flies, Portsmouth to Gosport 500 yards, distance by road 15 miles.
Separated by sea. Could build a bridge but there is already a railway that goes across.
I Z. I don't think you are talking about Portsmouth in the UK. There is no railway crossing from Portsmouth to Gosport, just a ferry passenger service. In fact there is no railway service in Gosport at all. There hasn't been since the 1960s.
Ah, yes I was mistaken. Needs a footbridge at least.
Thumbnail looks like Cities Skylines
A M E T E O R S T R I K E H A S O C C U R R E D
Country road
Dartford crossing is such a scam its nuts
How about some investment outside of London and SE England?
A1(M), Queensferry, smart motorway schemes on the M1 and M6, the many motorways that have been built in the past around Birmingham, Manchester, etc., A555 and A556 schemes. Meanwhile, Dartford has been left for years, with only the removal of the booths and implementation of the DartCharge being any sort of 'improvement' to possibly the UK's most important river crossing since the QEII Bridge opened almost 30 years ago.
HS2
I read somewhere that building roads is like loosening the belt of a fat man to relieve tightness, only for him to grow into it, instead of putting him on a diet.
They just won't learn.
That's dumb.
my left ear AHHHHH
My left ear enjoyed it.
vishnu pillai exactlyyyy 😂
My left ear really enjoyed this video
Was anyone interviewed in Thurrock on your report, again Thurrock gets left out
Lol angry old village people will be the ones to complain
DDougz Nah it’s essex so probably just chavs
I work all over the south east and Essex is not the worst county in that area.
nimbyism
Absolutely no progress since this video
Build it! There's too much congestion in London!
We need another public meeting about this about the last public meeting discussing the previous meeting
Spend some money in the north!
Westminster's had a grudge against the north ever since the strikes. That's why all the industry's been sold off to foreign countries.
@@MiG2880 Pro Brexit where we?
Actually no... I couldn't give a damn either way. The 'Brexit' debacle is just two groups of thieves squabbling over who gets to steal our hard earned money.
Our political system in general is just an idiot trap. This includes Brexit. I refuse to endorse self serving, power hungry, white-collar thieves with my vote, which frankly is just a placebo for the people... An idolatrous and vacuous bunch who are caught up in a confidence trick in which all their personal power is signed away to shysters.
P.S. *Were*. Put your phone down and pick up a book once in a while. Then you wouldn't misspell four letter words which most of us could spell at the age of five.
We should be spending this money on high speed rail or improving accessibility of our public transport first
Have you heard of HS2?
@@sensibledriver933 exactly my point, it's taken far too long and it's still not built yet. Also it does not go far enough north
TBH everything takes too long. Heathrow 3rd runway, 20 years talking about it ffs. Our MP's are effin useless!
@@sensibledriver933 lack of ambition 🤷
I'm thinking more along the lines of superfast journeys between london and edinburgh, glasgow and aberdeen in the future. It will never happen, but I guess I'm a bit jealous of the far superior high speed rail in other countries.
Tbh it seems a little strange, when they got rid of the barriers thats when all the accidents started happening. Once something happens on the QE2 bridge the WHOLE network shuts down in Thurrock. A 15 minute drive from Grays to South Ockendon can take me well over 2-3 hours if their has been a serious accident on the bridge. Buses are cancelled and on one day i had to start my GCSE exams half hour later to allow enough time for students to come in. But why did this all happen once they got rid of the barriers and not before?
Also, why we don’t want another crossing is because we was all told that once we paid the cost of the QE2 bridge off though the tolls it would be free to use, well the bridge got sold to a French company and we’re still paying for it!
Pollution is already record high round Thurrock and the state of the towns we live in, we need that money invested elsewhere instead of on another bridge/crossing. But apparently there is no magic money tree according to Theresa May and her government.
well everyone knows a country that has its own currency does have a magic money tree, it's a matter of keeping inflation in check, I'll be honest, Motorways and roads everywhere are a mess, I got 2 punctures last year despite only racking up 4000 miles (all on paved roads), money spent to help the road network is probably useful, and to be frank, the ''local'' who want the road to be elsewhere really aren't solving anything as the next town along getting traffic is still congestion.The QE2 is congested so I can see why they would build another crossing, but yeah, selling to a private company is really not the way to go!
KarlosBricks true, the roads are awful, but why can’t that money be build in investing whats already there and THEN build something. I hope you claimed off the council for the damages to your car.
Its like the A13, they spent months re-doing the whole thing and they put the speed limit to 50 mph when there is no need to.
Us “locals” all know what going to happen with the crossing, we get all of the traffic trying to cross the river which then raises pollution, considering Thurrock is a deprived area. Yes it might bring economical boost but many companies around this area don’t rely on the bridge because traffic can be diverted either though one of the tunnels or people just go to the blackwall tunnel. To be honest it hurts the economy a little bit because when there is an accident either on the A13 or QE2 lakeside shopping centre is gridlocked and can take anywhere up to 4-5 hours to get out the place. Most people are opposed to the idea because of what the QE2 was like “it will be free after its paid for” “it will take a few years to pay it back then its free!” But its not. We’ve heard it all before and we was lied to, thats why we are suspicious of having another crossing in our area.
Definitely true about the money though, however the government decides to put the money into the wrong things half the time
Fair enough, The whole situation with austerity and pretty much all transport south of birmingham is a mess, I take your point with the tolls, Governments have always been lax with keeping up promises. And I get your point on the congestion, Trouble is normally if there's a good alternative people will take it and give up driving for the other means such as trains, trouble is none of that other infrasture or price is very good so building more motorways will just increase the cars on the road, which is understandably bad for the local towns.
If the government invested more in railway infrastructure and perhaps encouraging businesses to set up shop in slightly less busy cities, that could be good, but with Brexit I really doubt any of that will happen for the foreseeable future.
Is the A13 50 limit camera enforced? because from experience with Glasgow I know that the blanket 50 limit is ignored by pretty well everyone, in fact your more likely to cause a crash going at 50 than 70 with the speeds everyone (cabbies, coppers, just about every driver) does.
KarlosBricks I completely agree, the government wants us all to change to electric cars but there is no infrastructure for it. My parents are way more than happy to buy an electric car but 1, my dad drives over to Kent for work and does about 30 miles a day commute so the rang in an electric car isn’t economical unless he buys a Tesla which costs £80,000 plus the £500+ a year extra road tax. We also live in a flat and the nearest charging station is in the town centre, however if that breaks he has to go to the other town. We can’t change at home and 2 if we wanted to drive long distance we would constantly have to stop to charge up.
Especially with trains what you have said, for a season ticket from my station to Fenchurch street in London (c2c Line) it costs nearly £2,000 just for 1 year. Plus parking costs an extra £900 for a season ticket. Nearly £3,000 just to get to work for a year. Its more economical for me as a student getting into outer london (Romford) to just drive my Corsa, i get 38.9 MPG (town driving) so i rarely fill up and its only £30 a year tax.
Unfortunately the A13 is all average speed cameras. It starts all the way from Dagenham and stops just before the Grays turn off, after that, its all national speed limits. Many people failed their test (including me) down the A13. I personally think we just should have an autobhan like Germany where its unlimited speeds down certain parts of the motorway. Speed cameras are just another “fine” for driving tbh.
The A13 was a mess today unironically, loads of buses was cancelled and pretty much everywhere was gridlocked.
I heard Birmingham done the “20 is plenty” campaign and converted 30 roads to 20, hows that holding up? Good thing about Thurrock is there is hardly any 20 roads, its mostly in estates or really build up areas.
we need to build it!!!
And don’t forget to build the tunnels high enough for tall HGV
I would even go so far as to make the new crossing exclusively HGV ( or ca/van) Also as to somewhat futureproof the number of tunnels need to at least double
Funny how the visualisation only shows 6 vehicles using it, and come on we all know the cost is never what they say , make it £10 billion.....
That's cos it's gonna be £15 each way!
Can you not give 6 billion to the NHS or housing?
I can't wait. The Dartford crossing alone is not enough. There is always traffic, hurry hurry please.
It’s long overdue let’s just get it done
When they couldn't even build two tunnels under the river Hull how did they propose to make it under the River Thames.
They never tried to remove buzzing from the drone.
Its not very popular in south Essex either. Particularly Thurrock.
From 2025 when this tunnel is up and running they are going to be charging to use the blackwall tunnel and it will be goodby free Woolwich ferry. It's only about road charging.
R.I.P right ear
£6bn, how bout we use some of that for the NHS eh?
Blitzaufweise Just because one area on government isn’t going well financially, doesn’t mean that you should not spend money in other areas.
Why don't we just forget everything that the country needs and give all the money to the NHS. It's not like investing in our transport infrastructure will help business's improve logistics, allow people more access to work and just generally connect the country a little.
Tristram Randall - the road networks all over the UK are a mess. How many cars are damaged due to poorly maintained roads? To suggest the highways agencies are doing well enough isn’t the case!
@@Andi4u Lol the roads seriously aren't as bad as you're making them out to be. Po
Dan M they are a state! There are ruts and potholes and damage to cars has doubled over the last decade. Add to this the examples of when motorways are being upgraded, it’s done slowly and not efficiently. We should fix the existing network first.
what editor made it only on left audio channel.
The entrance in Kent what about the other side in essex? dont we exist?
Are you sure it will be the longest road tunnel?
A Jaguar recently drove through the service Channel Tunnel and their UK part is 15.5 miles long.
what if u made a tunnel under a river and secured the panells together with
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No to the crossing. Thurrock is polluted enough. Stop it
Plz give us more cycle super highway
1:22 Gordon Ramsey seems to like the idea.
More roads = More cars
my left ear fucken loved this vid
The amount of rented whips shutting down that tunnel would be insane...
Definitely needs this as Blackwell tunnel is annoying noww
Cement the Thames.
1:05 love the horizon
If you build more roads, you get more traffic. This has been understood for years! Dartford won't see a reduction in traffic until public transport becomes more frequent and more affordable.
5 years later and they still haven’t built it…
London needs another ring road outer M25, not just a tunnel crossing Thames
I also how the government will afford this if brexit takes place? The economy is already crap
True but I rather we don't have inflation. Look at counties like Venezuela, they've had so much inflation that their economy is absolutely shite and crime rates are higher then ever. Thank goodness the UK isn't like that shithole.
@Biggles -Germany, 1929
Good idea 💡
Wot happened to that idea then???
Also see Phil Merrall - UK Politica
£6.8bn sure money could be spent idk fixing the damn nhs
well, you know what they say about magic money trees...
Can’t fix it.
£6.8bn would be a drop in the ocean for the NHS, it spends more than 20 times that per year
Can’t fix it with its current budget if £125 billion annually, that’s £10.3 billion per month it costs the tax payer! An extra £6 billion wouldn’t make a dent ! The NHS is a money pit, needs a major restructuring not pointless money thrown at it, when that money can used in other areas
@David Bennett unfortunately people seem money is always the answer, £6 billion wouldn't run the NHS for a month in its current form. What the NHS needs is a complete restructuring, get rid of so many none clinical staff and stop the use of PFI contracts that cost the NHS billions. London as needed anotber river crossing for years and it needs doing ASAP. Money well spent
My exhaust pops will sound great in there.
My right ear is lonely.
They do need another tunnel though as in high winds they close the queen elizabeth bridge off and use the tunnel instead heading north from kent to essex you use the tunnel but coming south from essex to kent its over that bridge and if thats shut and theres an accident in the tunnel its a big detour to the blackwall tunnel which is then shut due to an accident so woolwich ferey well thats ok unless its night or early morning then no that's shut as well. It took me 5 hours to get from grays in essex back to hastings because of this mess via a detour round the north and south circular so yes another tunnel is needed that would of saved me at least 3 hours driving time which i would of happily paid £1.50 to use instead of an extra 3 hours driving and petrol costs.
Your drone operator needs more practice in smooth movements.
Seems like a brilliant idea.
More traffic, more congestion, after this will need another one?
These people live on the boundaries of London and keep complaining about traffic. I wonder what they'd do if they lived in London
Let's build a tunnel connecting two places nobody wants to go to. Building a wall around Gravesend would be cheaper, more popular and keep burglaries down in the surrounding area.
That drone shot was unnecessary, plus the sound of it ruined her speech
Nobody will want to buy that after brexit
Looking forward to blasting through the tunnel making a lot of exhaust racket to annoy the locals. I'm social like that.
Lord Twaddle not with a Crossfire u won’t 😂
loooooooooooooooool
I can't wait to make some noise through the tunnel. Pops, crackles, gunshots!
What the suits don't consider is you can't go on building and digging for ever. One day you'l run out of land. What the suits should be pushing is less digging and more condoms.
I want a 3rd runaway at Heathrow's airport now who cares about pollution ?
Wouldn't a train line be less invasive and just as useful? We need to have less cars and more infrastructure to ferry us really. Trams or trains, leave the driving to a robot.
It could probably be turned into a train at some point in the future.
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Better and more affordable public transport links should be utilised to remove a portion of the traffic. This area of Kent has train stations running once every half hour and the same can be said for the buses.
This is an area with ever increasing pollution levels, but the government seems to have little care for this fact and its impact on public health.
However, I don't directly oppose this concept, but it definitely feels like it lacks a lot of foresight for the region.
The problem is public transport... Specifically the trains are too darn expensive and not reliable.
My season ticket cost me £6000. I dropped that and used the money for a bike to filter through the traffic.
James Treveil I have the same issue as you. However, I haven't dared to get a bike yet due to stupid drivers on the roads.
No right channel audio
£5-7 billion. Yeah. Right. In the end that will just be the profit (including backhanders) that the builders make. The whole thing will end up costing £10-12 billion!
Would be nice if they could spend money somewhere that isn't London for a change.
Agreed!
We are in 1.8 trillion pounds worth of debt why do we think of believe we have money for this?
BBC, takes public money, cant get dual channel audio to work
OMEGALUL
about time
Ppl there don’t want it put it In London at abby Wood
Why spend money when there are so many poor people in England
Old rural people are so funny. If it was up to them we would be riding horses. 😂
Rural? Gravesend? Hahahahaha
Why are we still encouraging people to travel by car with projects like this!!??
Because public transport is unreliable and ridiculously expensive?
And money
BAN THE CAR ffs
So what about people who depends on cars for travel, To work, for independence? Cannot use public transport for example?
SUSAN HALL 2024
So you guys do have money for the NHS your just spending it some where else ? 😂
All the country’s money always gets spunked in, on or around London. Waste of time
😡Isit another idea to keep charging us and keep stealing money from us like dartford crossing 🤔 thanks great idea 💡😡
Were gonna pay forever anyway so im glad to be getting something back.
sensible driver 😂 your spot on with we will be paying forever 😂🙏🏻🇬🇧
Once brexit kicks in and unemployment rises traffic volume will drop away.
Got a crystal ball then? Also can you tell me the Lottery the numbers while your at it?
Yeah well I live I dartford and my life is already intolerable
Blackhole south east.
The 2nd to last guy looks like rip off Gordon Ramsey
A total waste of money from KHAN once again hasn’t got a clue nice little back hander l expect
Let’s build it with Tax payers money 💰 and then.........let’s sell it to a foreign company, so foreign drivers go for free and 🇬🇧 drivers get further penalised. I remember when Britain was once called Great Britain.
GB => tinier ratbag.. .. .. . . .
Yep, old school Thatcherism alive and well?
Stop creating your own stories up please, foreign drivers will go for free and British get charged? Since when has that ever happened?
Manjot Singh Bassi Plenty of media coverage but happy to be challenged. A fifth of foreign drivers don’t pay according to recent data however Highways England have not released the official figures [sic] this could prejudice the effective operation of Dart Charge. Deduce from this as you please 😁
I heard that too, apparently we don't have access to the EU vehicle reg database to track foreigners who don't pay and it is operated by a French company.
Couldn't care less about congestion in London. Stop wasting tax payers money on cr ap like this.
More London overspend. They come along all the time in the South East. Try driving between Manchester and Sheffield. This is an absolute a joke.
This needs doing, if you lived in the area and had to use the black wall tunnel going into London on a daily basis, A tunnel built in the 19th century you would be backing the idea of another tunnel
KD84Afc™ you have no idea how good you’ve got it compared to the rest of the country. Try driving from Manchester to Sheffield or getting public transport in Birmingham. For £6bn it is outrageous. Birmingham can’t even get freight lines reopened to passenger traffic for £300m!
So what happens when there’s an accident? It will get clogged up as looking at this there’s no hard shoulder for emergency vehicles to pass stationary traffic. It should be named the tunnel of death!!!
The blackwall tunnel and dartford tunnel as not got an hard shoulder either. Not named the tunnels of death.
Sky is better than bbc
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BT is better than Sky
Obviously since Sky isn’t communist