Elden Ring DLC, New Zelda Revealed, Metroid Prime 4 - The MinnMax Show
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- On this week's early episode, Ben Hanson, Kelsey Lewin, Jacob Geller, and Kyle Hilliard unpack all of the highlights from the surprising Nintendo Direct showing the last big games hitting the Nintendo Switch console. We talk about The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom, Metroid Prime 4 gameplay, Mario & Luigi: Brothership, and the odd surprises of Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and Perfect Dark! Then Kyle talks about his time playing Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree in a spoiler-free discussion, we're also taking The Deepest Dive on this DLC masterpiece from From Software so stay tuned for that. Then we round up some cool upcoming games we played during Steam Next Fest and Jacob explains why you shouldn't miss out on Still Wakes The Deep from The Chinese Room. Then we answer questions submitted on Patreon by the community and award the iam8bit question of the week! You can win a prize and help make the show better by supporting us on Patreon and leaving a question! / minnmax
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:44 - Nintendo Direct
00:04:10 - Mario & Luigi: Brothership
00:08:34 - Fantasian
00:11:09 - Dragon Quest III HD-2D
00:16:08 - The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom
00:25:22 - The New Denpa Men
00:27:21 - Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics
00:29:12 - Perfect Dark
00:31:20 - Metroid Prime 4 Beyond
00:38:06 - Donkey Kong Country Returns
00:38:46 - Farmagia
00:40:39 - Looney Tunes: Wacky World of Sports
00:42:48 - Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree
00:54:56 - Summer Game Fest in retrospect
00:57:13 - I Am Your Beast
01:03:24 - 500 Caliber Contractz
01:07:21 - Cato
01:11:09 - Glyphica: Typing Survival
01:14:28 - Still Wakes The Deep
01:20:34 - Thanking MinnMax's biggest supporters
01:25:34 - Community questions
02:06:09 - Get A Load Of This
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Nintendo didn't sunset or bankrupt AlphaDream, they never owned them to begin with.
The fact that AlphaDream went bankrupt should have tipped them off that Nintendo didn’t own them. You can’t declare bankruptcy on only one part of a company. Bankruptcy is something that happens to an entire company.
Sylux was teased as the next villain in the secret endings of Metroid Prime 3 (in 2007!) and the 3DS game Metroid Prime Federation Force, which shows him finding the metroids. Also, the Prime series takes place before Metroid 2, where the metroids were wiped out.
New show plus idea: High on Hyrule. Kyle gives a 1 hour Zelda lore lesson while using that higher pitch voice modifier the entire time
Or hes trying to teach leo and leo is super high
Remember when Sarah was talking about FF 14 and Leo was talking about Hitman? Something like that, but for Kyle and Zelda. But with weed.
Brothership is the name of their SHIP!
Remember it's MinnMax who said: "Shoutout to Xvideos"
Ben, you are not prepared to know how I clicked on this video.
one very long eyelash?
Slapped the play button with my tongue.
Was it a pick and flick adventure?
everyone needs kyles voice changer thing, especially leo
ASSMAN is the most famous license plate
also ECTO1 and OUTATIME
It was a million to one shot Doc.
Damn, no mention for Ace Attorney Investigations 2 being localized for the first time. 2nd best announcement of the direct!
Pokémon treats “breeders” much more like Janet describes them. They’re basically just caretakers and often have the “farmer” aesthetic. Brock was never talking about making them breed but rather just wanting to take care of them.
Wow, Jacob’s take on Mario and Luigi games is so off the mark! I’m very surprised at how dismissive he is.
I personally think Brothership is the first glimpse at what a “next gen” Mario game could look like with those animations.
You ever notice how everything Geller doesn't like is automatically stupid and/or bad?
Also his take on Saw. I guess he's not into horror movies? Despite some of his video topics on his channel I figured horror movies would be up his alley and easy peasy.
@@burnout713woukd genuinely love to hear where I say or even imply this! In the Mario section I literally say I had to get over myself and recognize that it looked big and legit!
@@JacobGeller Well it's a recurring theme and not exclusive to Mario and Luigi. But in this video alone you called Fantasian, which Hanson (and plenty of other people including me, by the way) is excited about "very boring" multiple times and extrapolated that to all RPGs with random encounters comparing them to "getting kicked in the shins." Until Zelda you said this showcase was a "2/10" and "one of the worst" you'd ever seen. I don't know how else to read that besides "this showcase doesn't have things I like, therefore it is bad."
@@burnout713 I don't think it's that serious
Notes for DQ3: You could already pick between Female and Male Hero. In orignal DQ3 you could pick gender for each party member (You create and name them), I dont see why that wouldn't be the case now. This remake is coming with an extra class compared to the previous remake
Im pretty sure Square Enix coined the term HD 2D themselves.
They did. And they deserve the credit.
Honestly other than Eiyuden Chronicle I can't think off the top of my head of any non-Square Enix game to use the artstyle.
Octopath Traveller was the first game to use the term and Triangle Strategy, Star Ocean, Live A Live were all their games
the mario and luigi series has always been pretty ambitious in terms of portable games (and honestly just all mario games), if that's what's keeping people from checking them out then that's a shame. some pretty cool swings with theming, characters, and pushing some typical RPG/adventure genre boundaries
Yeah, knocking a game just because it started on portable consoles is... baffling.
@@burnout713 to be completely fair, the marketing never really did those games justice and Nintendo has an ocean of spinoff games with niche appeal and smaller scopes, so I'm not really shocked someone might draw that conclusion. my intent is not to scold or call out any cohorts lol, just to vouch for one of my favorite series👍
I am obsessed with Ben consistently saying x franchise is y cohort's favourite. Following Jacob and El Paso, I'm excited for Leo to set the record straight about Sniper Elite.
1:51:45 “Bowser got skeletalized or something.”
“He got better.”
THIS SHOW DOESNT MISS JOKES!
We see you sniping Holy Grail lines Ben
I really appreciate Jacob bringing the two greatest people in NC history to the forefront: Fart Girl and Shart Girl. And Fart Girl is from Asheville of all places!
Re: DQ3, the characters and events of that game are the distant historical backstory for DQ1 and 2. You are doing the things in that game that became legends later in time. So my hope is they are reworking those games to do some Mass Effect style canon changes where the things you do in DQ3 will be remembered and affect some things in the "later" games. Like collecting your endgame gear (of the lead hero) from DQ3 is central to the entire progression for DQ1, so that would be a clear place to introduce choice.
DQ3 sets everything up for DQ1 and DQ2. I think DQ 1 is very very shortly after DQ3 events.
What I'm confused about though is how are they going to do mechanics for DQ1. Isn't it just one person the whole time and no party?
I'm glad you asked how this operates. I've been wondering for WEEKS.
calling it now renata price will be the deepest dive special guest
Honestly crazy that Jacob Gellar hasn’t seen Saw. The first one is not grotesque - it’s a small indie psychological horror that was inventive at the time. If you’ve seen Midsommar of The Witch you’ve seen far more sadistic and disturbing content. If anything, Saw is very dated and tame by today’s standards
Utterly stunned and a wee bit sad that nobody had heard of the Denpa Men series before. There’s like 3 of them on 3DS. AR-fuelled Nintendo published JRPGs. I made sure to cop them up before that eShop closed. Of course I haven’t played any of them, but still.
My friend had the Tiny Toon Adventures Wacky Sports Challenge SNES game and we loved it lol. Haven't played it since the 90s so will let nostalgia guide me
Shocked to hear Jacob wasn't feeling the direct at first. I thought it was almost wall to wall great stuff and honestly I'd easily put it above the xbox show for this year.
I think it comes down to what types of games you play. Personally the Nintendo Direct was underwhelming but I was very interested in most of the games in the Xbox showcase. Glad you've got some games to look forward to though!
Context is key I think, I didn't think anything shown at the State of Play was in any way terrible (even Concord) but because they've been so silent on their first party output it felt disappointing.
I thought the Nintendo Direct was a banger when you consider Nintendo have a new console release to prepare for and could've easily sunset the Switch by just porting a load of GameCube and Wii games. But they found the time to make a new Mario+Luigi, Mario Party and Zelda as well.
The highs were undoubtedly very high but the lows were indeed.. low
I'm not shocked at all. I think I like the guy overall but every once in a while, he comes in with the sh***est takes I've ever heard. This is one of them. It's like as soon as he hears a bunch of people like something, he has to take the opposite stance because he thinks that makes him cool or something.
It was trash. As usual port heavy and very ugly games. They need new hardware. Sony had a better show.
It was fun to hear you talk about I Am Your Beast, I find Strange Scaffold are constantly putting out some of the most unique and interesting experiences. Would love to hear you interview Xalavier *nudge nudge*
Great show, MinnMax chemistry is off the charts at the moment!
Hahaha jacob saying the suriel line about detroit become human brought back that memory and made me laugh out loud. I remember him yelling it out haha
ok the mason jar thing is actually incredibly helpful
What...? I love that Tiny Toons sports game.
31:24 Great Moment
Like this message if you also read Seven Games on Hanson's recommendation.
I would be derelict in my duties as an Arrested Development fan if I didn't mention ANUSTART as being among the pantheon of vanity license plates. Because don't we ALL deserve a new start, really?
all of the dragon quest games from 1-6 are a breezy 20-40 hours to roll credits. If you want a colossal time sink start with 11...or DQ7.
Missed joke opportunity: Make a "Until there is a cure" t-shirt with a block from Mario
Hanson, what arcade sticks do you own?
1:25:55 Sphere to Squarespace
Played through 1000xResist after all of the high praise, gonna need Jacob and Kelsey to do a Max Spoilers on that one!
Literally should’ve started with The Thing on an oil rig lmao.
I was barely on the line of interest, now it’s an immediate download when I get home from work. The Thing is one is my favorite movies!
-FUNKNOWN
DQXI has a how long to beat of 57.5 hours main, 87.5 hours main + extras and 131 completionist.
When Zelda is walking out to the edge of the cliff for the title reveal you can see it’s clearly the LttP map, then it pans to the left to show the volcano to the west which it a totally new area.
Kelsey worked for PFT?!?! I need the full story
I worked for a marketing/PR/publicist firm and one of our clients was the Thrilling Adventure Hour, of which PFT was a regular part of (in its heyday? I’m actually not sure if it’s still around)
This was years ago but I did a couple of comic cons where I interacted with him. But it was mostly like “ok I’m gonna walk you to your next appearance” and maybe handed him a snack if he got hungry lol.
Always good - wish you covered VR more… here’s words for the algorithm! 👍
We thank you for these words.
15:25 DQ11 is definitely not 150 hours. I beat it at 77 hours on steam and I took my time. Nevertheless, the game does one optional story (that can be missed if you don't continually talk to them when you visit the place in the story) that I've never seen any game do with npcs before, and there are 2 other things tied to the story that I didn't expect to see either. This was my first dragon quest game and I didn't think the story was going to be that good until I actually gave it an attempt to beat it.
Nice episode.
Feel like nobody considered the obvious 'hacks' for the MrBeast Egg Challenge. #1 -- do fish eggs count? If so, great, welcome to billionaire world.
But perhaps more realistically for this ridiculous question, #2 -- does it have to be a CHICKEN egg? Because if the only stipulation is that it must be an avian egg, then I'm (comfortably!) eating 30 quail egg omelets for 3 meals and laughing the whole way to the BeastBank. 😄
I have to put Nintendo above Xbox for Summer Showcase cause I can play every thing I saw with in the next 6 to 9 months. While Xbox it's a maybe 2024 maybe 2025 maybe 2026 with a maybe close down of studios making said games.
Frankly your timetable for Xbox is generous. There are multiple games shown at its 2020 showcase that still aren't out.
Of course you do because you're a Nintendo fanboy. I put XB and PS over Nintendo because they look like actual 2024 games and not some ugly Gamecube looking trash. Some of those games literally look like GC or PS2 games. The Looney Tunes one was the ugliest game I've seen in a decade.
@@smellywaffels1967 Nobody asked.
I think Zelda can use a sword in the new game. You can see a white directional pad inventory on the screen which shows the staff as one of the one of the options, but there aren’t any other options shown. I bet the other options will be a sword and a bow.
That would undermine a lot of the uses for the echos. I think she'll get other tools or spells. They clearly want her to feel like a different 'class' than Link.
1:42:10 same thing happened to me with Assassin's Creed: Syndicate back in 2015. Any time I boot that game back up, I'm like "oh yeah, GameStop ads... what a time." Idk why
Metroid Prime 4 looks like Halo 4 in some ways.
POKEMON PUZZLE LEAGUE MENTIONED 🤯
The iam8bit segment still has the May code on it just fyi!
Kyle needs to understand that he’s definitely in the minority. A lvl 180-something on NG+ would make the DLC insanely difficult still
The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom, Serenade of Courage, Labyrinth of Power.
Finally, I know how this whole thing operates
Nice facial hair, Kyle
Keep it
You guys should get a podcast sponsorship from Manscaped. 😅
That was a lot more talk about consuming vomit than I expected.
THING THING MENTIONED
Murphy's Law, Ben
I think I can handle 30/40 hard boiled eggs in 24 hours.
Looney Tunes B-ball on SNES is good!
yay
The Legend of Zelda: beds
I really like Looney Tunes Bball
So great to see playable Zelda. They managed to still let her fight but in a new way. I always found combat lacking in the 2D Zelda games and this looks to be more interesting.
As much as I may want to see Zelda kill dudes with a sword, I love that they've decided to make her play so differently to Link
Yep, Zelda is a different part of the triforce. A wise magic-user. She shouldn't be equivalent to Link. I'm glad she has a unique way to be a protagonist without being a stereotype princess or warrior.
Ben doesn't know what bankrupt means LOL.
Why doe he think Nintendo forced AlphaDream to bankrupt? Nintendo wasn't even the only publisher that hired them.
At around 1 hr 45 min Ben is talking about an era of Pokemon that the other cohorts may have been too young to recall, as they are like eight or nine years younger, so maybe thats why there wasn't much response : P . I am in that age range where i remember though
fa'afetai tele lava 🤙🏽🌺
I'm basically opposite of Jacob; Metroid was the least interesting thing for me, but I do understand why it's a big deal for fans. I wonder if Mario & Luigi is actually more successful than Metroid? DS was one of the best selling systems and I know Metroid has never sold particularly well. I haven't played either of them, personally.
15:25 😑Start with DQ8 kids. All of them (9 of them actually) are great. However, 8 is an amazing jumping on point for noobs as it is more modern then 1-7 and also not as feature rich as DQ11 so you can still go back and play earlier games without feeling like you are going insane.
11 is amazing, it just suddenly decides to be almost 2 games in one after the second ARC which is kind of a lot for a newcomer to the series. DQ8 sort of does this but honestly it is nowhere near as long - or good - as Arc 3 of 11.
Start with 8, then try 9, then if a fan, go back and do these remakes or do 4,5,6.
Or
You know
Just go with recency bias advice from the guy who loves Livealive 😂
What's with the Live A Live vendetta? I really liked that game 🤣
But yeah otherwise I agree. 8's quite hard to play on modern hardware unless you can find the 3DS version or emulate but it's the FF7 of the series.
@@battlep0t I just find it funny how Ben always brings it up. He might be the only content creator I watch who liked it. Having not played it, I have no clue if he is right and everyone else is wrong or not 😉 someday I will check it out.
Am I the only one really bothered by the whole crew having 0 idea about The Denpamen series? It had 3 games released in english for the nintendo 3DS back in the day and the gimmick of recruiting the denpamen using the 3DS camera was really fun by the way.
Honestly, I feel pretty dumb for missing this! It looks totally up my alley. Sometimes even when you're surrounded by games 365 days a year you can still miss stuff -- but I admit that this is one that totally should have been on my radar.
@@KelseyLewin It's ok! I appreciate you replying back and hopefully the new game is good enough for you and the crew to give it a try ☺
Giant Bomb was like this as well. Too many new heads in games media.
Very on brand for Jacob Geller to watch a show as great as that one was and be abrasively negative on it.
this seems like a bit of an overstatement lol nd certainly not jacobs brand
@@medsellr Attacking AAA or otherwise "boring" games/genres is 50 percent percent of his brand with the other half devoted to celebrating the weirdest, most underground indie titles he can find. Bonus points if they have terrible gameplay.
@@burnout713LMAO yeah that’s Jacob alright
@@burnout713 💀crazy take lmao
@@medsellr Honestly, no hate on the indie stuff. Lol. But the negativity for the most popular releases gets a bit grating.
Algo
How are people worried or confused about the gameplay of the new Zelda?!? Like I’m genuinely flabbergasted on the takes people have of it.
Edit: Ok since it was mentioned I also want to bring out that I think it’s utterly ridiculous to think that Zelda should play the same as Link. Like what purpose would that even serve?
The game looks great and I feel I have a pretty solid idea of how the game will play just from watching the trailer. I honestly think it’s going to be more “Zelda like” than some people are expecting
the Nintendo show was ok. Wish we had gotten to see more of Metroid than we did
I was hoping for a banger like the Xbox show, but I guess they're waiting for Switch 2
kelsey looks extra cute
i will say i thought Metroid Prime 4 looked underwhelming. Even if the game ends up good that trailer was poor
It was such a weird, understated way of introducing a game with so much hype behind it
@@at-the-joslen i know this probably isnt true but they showed the game as if it isn't very far along. if it really is 2025 it was a strange choice to only show a small indoor area that is clearly the intro and then a "tease" of the bigger world.
I was talking to some people about this but they did not agree with me, i thought the music cue was Soooo weird. I think the game looks amazing otherwise
@@Magic7ball it was just a teaser. They can show plenty more whenever they want ?
@@obba40 ok? I thought it was underwhelming
The objective best way to watch Star Wars is:
- Watch Episodes 4 & 5
-Watch Episodes 1-3 as an Anakin Flashback
- Watch episode 6
Of course, those are the only Star Wars films that exist.
Sorry Ben, but classic Zelda is still dead so this doesnt count :(
Sure it's "mainline" but like with Super Mario Bros. what good is that when the classic formula is gone.
Nintendo fans in the comments once again proving why they have the worst and most toxic fans. Keep it classy fanboys.
Coming from one of the most toxic commenters I've ever seen. Lol. I don't know the last time I encountered anyone with self-awareness this poor.
Kyle is annoying af.
Pot calling the kettle black
I forward past his parts tbh
What makes him annoying? Like... I can't see it. Break the glass for me.
Why? You seem to have issues to work out.
@@intense79nick he points out all the parts of games he doesn’t like if it isn’t a Nintendo game. If it’s a Nintendo game made for 8 year olds it’s amazing. Janet and him also say “like” way too much. Had to get it off my chest. I listen to every episode and it bugs me every time.
It's incredible how lackluster your discussion on Erdtree is. Completely clueless all of you
the game isnt even out yet.
Take a pill.