Gurren Lagann vs. Kill la Kill: A Thematic Rundown

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    LINKS!
    Re: Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
    A short video interview with director Hiroyuki Imaishi and character designer Atsushi Nishigori: animediet.net/conventions/ax-2...
    Two short interviews with several producers and animation directors: www.mania.com/interview-gainax...
    www.animenewsnetwork.com/inter...
    GAINAX answering fan questions: www.japanator.com/the-secrets-...
    TV Topes "Wild Mass Guessing" page is basically a dump for everyone's insane interpretations of the series. A few are usually interesting: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php...
    TV Tropes also has a pretty extensive list of references in the series. A lot of them are questionable, but a lot are really cool: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php...
    The Animanachronism posits it as the ultimate tale of rebellion: animanachronism.wordpress.com...
    Because Gurren Lagann came out around when I first got into anime blogging, and when more analytical blogging was only just getting popular, I haven't read as much/there isn't as much out there. Googling "gurren lagann analysis" turns up some promising results, but most of them aren't saying much different from what I did in this video. Anyways here's the search: www.google.com/search?sourcei...
    Re: Kill la Kill:
    The biggest and most important post that I'm going to link here is, as you've probably guessed if you follow my KLK content, the massive post Kill la Kill: A Love Story from Chromatic Abberations everywhere. What makes this post integral is that it's not only probably the best close-reading of the series outside of Charles Dunbar's panels, but it also is a curation of analysis done on the series. It culminates tons of stuff written on the show and links to most of it, so from here you can easily dive into a world of KLK analysis. I recommend all of the links in the "Building Up A Mindset" section: eyeforaneyepiece.wordpress.co...
    Very cool interview with director Imaishi and writer Nakashima: flamingo-chan.tumblr.com/post/...
    Database of known Kill la Kill references: dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2...
    Charles Dunbar's massive KLK panel has yet to fully hit the internet. He plans on filming it at Katsucon in February and is writing a book on it, but for now you can find bits and pieces, and the genesis of the ideas, over on his website: www.studyofanime.com/
    You can also find some similar reading in this post, The Fashion of Fascism, on Art-Eater: art-eater.com/2013/11/kill-la-...
    Interview with character designer Sushio: pastebin.com/9cDsZjET
    And of course, my own posts on Kill la Kill, in reverse-chronological order. All of them are worth checking out as they lead up to my thesis in this video: myswordisunbelievablydull.wor...
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Komentáře • 568

  • @Maze-
    @Maze- Před 7 lety +1036

    Gurren Lagann is anime that you watch with your friends. Kill la Kill you watch it alone

    • @MaxonerousX
      @MaxonerousX Před 7 lety +73

      Then I guess it says something about me because I watch gurren lagabb alone

    • @MaxonerousX
      @MaxonerousX Před 7 lety +1

      *lagann

    • @frydfish4934
      @frydfish4934 Před 7 lety +7

      YFKRZ for......reasons

    • @ESPmrBrough
      @ESPmrBrough Před 7 lety +15

      i watched both alone then again with a friend

    • @mrvaldemar66
      @mrvaldemar66 Před 7 lety +77

      i watched kill la kill with my mum...

  • @gizzylaserfoot2604
    @gizzylaserfoot2604 Před 6 lety +489

    Gurren Laggan and Kill la Kill have SO many amazing characters like *SATSUKI* , Ryuko, Mako, Kamina, Yoko, and Simon. I’m just happy to spend time with all these amazing characters.

    • @passalapasa
      @passalapasa Před 5 lety +10

      SATSUKI TOP WAIFU

    • @megankasa5203
      @megankasa5203 Před 5 lety +1

      Congrats on 100 likes

    • @ivanvenne
      @ivanvenne Před 5 lety +6

      @@passalapasa In my OPINION, Satsuki is ugly. Now though, Ryuko is a different story. Seriously, I feel the reason that these characters are top waifu in my opinion is that the characters are really well written. It isn't like other where they just have a girl for the sake of being pretty which also have no personality.

    • @moobattle
      @moobattle Před 5 lety +15

      @@ivanvenne unfortunately, your opinion on Ryoko is wrong. Kamina is objectively best girl.

    • @davidsplooge14
      @davidsplooge14 Před 3 lety

      @@moobattle wait...

  • @willwallz
    @willwallz Před 7 lety +493

    -Watched both of these shows in 2014
    *-Still piercing the heavens*

    • @naoseipraquevlog
      @naoseipraquevlog Před 5 lety +8

      You sir, said everything

    • @peynnep6483
      @peynnep6483 Před 5 lety +11

      Drilling trough the heavens and won't lose my way :D

    • @dantecrottogini529
      @dantecrottogini529 Před 4 lety

      watched both in 2019

    • @starrja
      @starrja Před 3 lety +2

      Are you still piercing the heavens to this day?

    • @willwallz
      @willwallz Před 3 lety +4

      @@starrja Yeah absolutely. What the fuck is this comment?? When did I write this????

  • @NeverwascooL
    @NeverwascooL Před 7 lety +555

    Kamina's death joined the my very short list of anime deaths that actually made me cry
    R.I.P Kamina and Maes Hughes

    • @chaosundividedreborn
      @chaosundividedreborn Před 7 lety +19

      God damn it, dont make me remember that................-starts crying-

    • @scotishjoe
      @scotishjoe Před 7 lety +2

      and rip usio and nagisa

    • @RJ-ot1bb
      @RJ-ot1bb Před 7 lety +1

      CZcams Subscriber Clearly you have seen very few anime deaths

    • @NeverwascooL
      @NeverwascooL Před 7 lety +2

      __RjAzrl I think you underestimate the goodness of my dark soul

    • @greghmn
      @greghmn Před 6 lety +2

      What about L? Granted, his death (or Light's) was necessary for the plot to continue, but that almost made it worse.

  • @SurprisinglyDynamicAnimeSideC

    What happened to all the comments? Did the flame war on this video get so intense that it turned into an ACTUAL war and only a handful survived to tell the tale?!

    • @manuelalbertoromero9528
      @manuelalbertoromero9528 Před 7 lety +31

      ...Maybe.

    • @fatguyfrommy8421
      @fatguyfrommy8421 Před 7 lety +43

      yeah, the war lasted for a month now...lost all 5 limbs and thanks to text-to-speech device, all is well and both sides decided to agree to disagree.

    • @JesusHankChrist
      @JesusHankChrist Před 6 lety +13

      I still hear the missiles

    • @LeocobraRM
      @LeocobraRM Před 6 lety +8

      Keyboard Warriors has lost the war to Anti-Criticism back then, hence why they hid away from this vast wasteland back into their basements.
      But it seems like they already came out of their holes and took this comment section back.

    • @excitedcat9517
      @excitedcat9517 Před 4 lety +2

      OG veteran:
      (Smokes pipe)
      Damn...at times I...I can still hear the screams...the ripping and tear of...bones and flesh...the images still show up in my dreams...all because of which bust is better...yoko or ryuko....

  • @ohnoherecomescommonsense3853

    I love both shows

  • @crimsonherald3890
    @crimsonherald3890 Před 5 lety +72

    Finished Kill La Kill today. I feel empty. I got the same feel after i finished Gurren Lagann years ago. Both of them are amazing with over the top action scenes, really good OSTs, VA and overall style.
    Both of them were good and re-watchable. Both of them gave me goosebumps.
    Kill La Kill did ecchi right. It grows on you after a while because of the plot and the reason why the characters are sexualised.
    Every characters in both anime are memorable too.
    Can't do Vs between them man. It's real hard lol.

    • @zerothehero123
      @zerothehero123 Před rokem +1

      Kill la kill isn't ecchi.

    • @max1133gg
      @max1133gg Před 4 měsíci

      Did the same thing today. I want to come gere 5 years later and see if there's more comments about this.

  • @Atlink
    @Atlink Před 6 lety +177

    Fun fact: You're allowed to like or dislike what you want for any reason you want.
    Just don't be a douche about it. I'm talking about you, comments section. If you're going to say you dislike something, at least give a reasonable argument as to why, and then others can give reasonable rebuttals. Just because someone likes something that you don't, that shouldn't diminish your love for something that they don't.

    • @Go-pi6pg
      @Go-pi6pg Před 6 lety +11

      Atlink Why the hell is this not the top comment

    • @javierlim7952
      @javierlim7952 Před 5 lety +8

      I agree. I mean just because you like something that others don't doesn't make them stupid or someone to be hated on. Everyone has different tastes

    • @insulinus5787
      @insulinus5787 Před 5 lety

      No u

    • @dalecal1129
      @dalecal1129 Před 5 lety +6

      And while we're at it, there's a big difference between disliking something, and saying that thing is bad. You're free to dislike whatever you want, but if you're going to chat shit about it, you need to back it up with reasonable arguments.

    • @Burryto_boy
      @Burryto_boy Před 3 lety +1

      I thougth you were gonna talk shit about gurren lagann bc of your profile pic but im glad that i read your comment

  • @hoppersfox
    @hoppersfox Před 6 lety +74

    Kill La Kill and Gurren Lagann both made me cry, so by my common sense, they're both amazing shows for me. Trigger just makes really good shows.

    • @sakshyamghimire6435
      @sakshyamghimire6435 Před 3 lety +1

      Gurren lagann is by gainax

    • @hoppersfox
      @hoppersfox Před 3 lety +3

      @@sakshyamghimire6435 I mean Studio Trigger was founded by someone who worked at Gainax, so in a sense you can still consider it a Studio Trigger animation

    • @e-male896
      @e-male896 Před 3 lety +3

      @@hoppersfox also many of the staff for gurren Laggan worked at gainax and moved to trigger

  • @iamgame_ing
    @iamgame_ing Před 6 lety +95

    I don’t know too much about Japanese history, but I did notice a few parallels between KLK and WWII:
    - What are the students always learning about when we’re inside classroom? Right. The perpetual World War II lesson.
    - Ragyo’s theme (Blumenkranz) is full of symbols pointing towards eugenics, such as the symbolism of picking out the “best” flowers and turning them into a wreath. Plus, the song is (supposed to be) in German
    - This one is looser, but I was thinking that the mass-produced clothes are somewhat similar to the “non-Aryan indicators,” such as the yellow Star of David and pink triangle for Jews and gays respectively.
    - The Tri-City Invasion (I think that’s what it was called), as well as the rest of the schools taken by Satsuki, represents the expansion of Germany.
    I had more, but I can’t recall them at this ungodly hour.

    • @GigaflareInNeutral
      @GigaflareInNeutral Před 5 lety +3

      Welll.......Good Job.

    • @Netherdawg
      @Netherdawg Před 3 lety +1

      I would like your comment but it's currently at 69 and I'd rather not ruin it :D

  • @Wortwort-Spooderbat
    @Wortwort-Spooderbat Před 6 lety +183

    Funny I never compared these two. Seen both and love both but personally I like Kill la kill more. It's one of my top favorite animes of all time

  • @chillmydudes
    @chillmydudes Před 4 lety +32

    I believe that Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill pose the same question, only reversed, as the anti-spirals ask if it is worth destroying by creating, whereas the life-fibres pose the threat of creation through destruction.

  • @T800BR
    @T800BR Před 7 lety +63

    i like how there's a two year gap between the first comment and the second

    • @technic1285
      @technic1285 Před 7 lety +1

      T8_00 Fuck

    • @Fouxjin
      @Fouxjin Před 6 lety +2

      T8_00 Digi probably deleted a ton of comments

    • @senateop9680
      @senateop9680 Před 6 lety +4

      There was a PURGE if i remember correctly

  • @ryanstone9224
    @ryanstone9224 Před 7 lety +77

    With Gurren Lagenn I have a lot more memorable lines, even though I think there are a lot of amazing action and one-liners in kill la kill as well. My favorite scene is in Gurren Lagenn where Yoko, Simon, and Viral are all talking in the cell and Viral says "Ok and what are you gonna do to stop them?" and Simon replies "Easy, we destroy the moon"

    • @Ilovevidgames123
      @Ilovevidgames123 Před 7 lety +23

      For me, it's the phrase "the lights in the sky are stars". That phrase is so powerful to me. It conveys so much hope, wonder, and aspiration. I get fucking chills when I watch that scene again.

    • @Geassguy360
      @Geassguy360 Před 6 lety +5

      IDK man, Ask not the sparrow how the eagle soars....

    • @mousysaint9143
      @mousysaint9143 Před 6 lety +2

      I was too busy cringing at how dumb 90% of those *EpIc OnE lInErS* were in Gurren Lagann. Most of them didn't make any reasonable sense and was just garbage to sound cool.

    • @Geassguy360
      @Geassguy360 Před 6 lety +2

      'kay bro.

    • @jonsnor4313
      @jonsnor4313 Před 6 lety +6

      And the soundtrack raw raw fight the power itself

  • @Amin-fj1lx
    @Amin-fj1lx Před 7 lety +225

    >Uploaded 12 Jan, 2015
    >Comments: 35
    k.

    • @Amin-fj1lx
      @Amin-fj1lx Před 7 lety

      Malform Beats Chibi Reviews? NOT A REVIEWER.

    • @Amunny
      @Amunny Před 7 lety

      WHAT

    • @Amin-fj1lx
      @Amin-fj1lx Před 7 lety

      AminLuffy What?

    • @Amunny
      @Amunny Před 7 lety

      What?

    • @Alienrun
      @Alienrun Před 7 lety +7

      The comments on this video used to be disabled I think, so naturally I think due to youtube being youtube a lot of those were deleted (but some weren't?) :/

  • @kellharris2491
    @kellharris2491 Před 7 lety +48

    "Ask not the sparrow how the eagle sours"

    • @awesomesausome1557
      @awesomesausome1557 Před 5 lety +2

      I just saved the sparrow from being eaten by an eagle IT BETTER TELL ME HOW EAGLE PHYSICS WORKS!

    • @pandagamer-hg5be
      @pandagamer-hg5be Před 4 lety

      @@awesomesausome1557 *_like a drill!!_*

  • @eike7131
    @eike7131 Před 5 lety +36

    I actually enjoyed both shows. But kill la kill is my absolute favorite.

  • @ryze2620
    @ryze2620 Před 4 lety +6

    both left a hole in my heart which can never be filled again rip

  • @MADGuy248
    @MADGuy248 Před 5 lety +10

    14:57 Oda Nobunaga is not a Shinto God. He was a shogun who started the unification of Japan, thus a very famous and significant historical military figure in Japan. He is often referenced in pop culture as a “demon” who is motivated with strong political ambition. The use of Honnoji in KLK is to emphasis Satsuki’s political ambition to overthrow her mother’s authority by echoing Oda Nobunaga’s ambition. So it’s not a Shinto reference, it’s a historical reference.

  • @dawidscheffler7152
    @dawidscheffler7152 Před 6 lety +18

    I loved both of them. They should not be a versus.

  • @jamesmatthewg.santos3589
    @jamesmatthewg.santos3589 Před 7 lety +42

    "Also squidward"
    I died😂😂😂

    • @geekmythologynerdic
      @geekmythologynerdic Před 4 lety

      Squidward is in Gurren Lagann. Does that mean the animators enjoy Spongebob Squarepants?

  • @eathotdog
    @eathotdog Před 4 lety +7

    The themes displayed in each series are so different the only comparisons I made were baseline story beats, Like the 4 generals trope and both having a big twist reveal about halfway through.

  • @reimu3627
    @reimu3627 Před 9 měsíci +2

    That bit on duality being a major theme in Kill la Kill split my mind open, even the name of the show depicts duality pretty effectively.

  • @Joseph_S_Clark
    @Joseph_S_Clark Před 6 lety +22

    Personally (when watching them back to back so no bias on when I watched it) and I preferred Kill la kill just saying. Give me points for or against if you can.

  • @Chronophasia
    @Chronophasia Před 7 lety +93

    I think both shows are equal. But I do like Kill la kill a little better because it got me into the show by the first episode while Gurren Lagann didn't really pull me in.

    • @AngelofEresos
      @AngelofEresos Před 6 lety +8

      Same.

    • @marcopierini6405
      @marcopierini6405 Před 6 lety +8

      same

    • @kozhikkaalan
      @kozhikkaalan Před 6 lety +9

      totally. the first few episodes of gurren lagann were really boring and unremarkable. But boy oh boy, did it really take off in the second half of the show. It was insane, the improvement!! On the other hand, my favourite episode of kill la kill is episode 1

    • @dalecal1129
      @dalecal1129 Před 5 lety

      Yeah, I had to fight my way through the first few episodes of Gurren Lagann. If I hadn't heard such praise about the show, I probably would've dropped it after the dogshit animation quality of episode 4.

    • @moobattle
      @moobattle Před 5 lety +1

      to be honest, I liked Gurren Lagann more because I could watch it without getting yelled at for watching porn

  • @amj.composer
    @amj.composer Před 6 lety +271

    Gurren Lagann was amazing.....
    But Kill la Kill was just a Masterpiece

  • @GoodwinGhost
    @GoodwinGhost Před 7 lety +11

    Its funny cuz Gurren Lagann was my first ever anime and Kill la Kill was my second

  • @lardshank
    @lardshank Před 6 lety +108

    i don't think you know what "penultimate" means

    • @thankyoubabyjesus1
      @thankyoubabyjesus1 Před 6 lety +8

      landbased yeah he doesn't. It means second to last

    • @kozhikkaalan
      @kozhikkaalan Před 6 lety +9

      lol yeah, i was confused when he said penultimate too. I was like "did I miss something?". But it doesn't make sense. He sounds too smart to not know

    • @dalecal1129
      @dalecal1129 Před 5 lety +14

      He probably thought it meant "quintessential," or something.

    • @rawfermews4186
      @rawfermews4186 Před 5 lety +3

      why does this thread have a bunch of assholes on it

    • @SlurpeeTheUnholy
      @SlurpeeTheUnholy Před 4 lety

      I was about to comment the same thing but I figured someone else must've done so already and sure enough.

  • @damonenfurst6662
    @damonenfurst6662 Před 5 lety +5

    I went into this video having only read the KLK manga and not seen the show. I was not aware how incomplete it is.

  • @hookedonafeeling9232
    @hookedonafeeling9232 Před 2 lety +2

    this is a great analysis! :D you did a great job!

  • @thencsmaster4343
    @thencsmaster4343 Před 6 lety +5

    Fun thing is I'm on an anime binge watch right now and I completely unintentionally watched these shows back to back

  • @browntaxi7158
    @browntaxi7158 Před 6 lety +41

    I personally think Gurren Lagann was better. Not knocking Kill La Kill, it was great but I personally found Gurren Lagann to be better. Definitely liked Simon as the main character a lot more, seeing him grow up and mature was amazing. Also loved the connection between Kamina and Simon, they honestly where like blood brothers and the anime showed it multiple times throughout its run time from the limited 8 episodes and in future episodes after. Especially during that flashback Yoko had with Kamina saying Simon gave him strength to move forward and made all his big talk real brought a tear to my eye, because that showed us that they do rely on one another for support more than we realized. It showed us their “brotherly” love so to say, it felt a lot more passionate. Even though Kill la Kill had its fair share of passion and epic moments I felt Gurren Lagann’s had a lot more better handled epic moments and that’s probably because of the main characters of their each respective shows, Simon and Ryuoko. In Kill la Kill we are immediately shown how badass Ryuoko is, sure she fell from grace a few times throughout the show and had great character development but with Simon’s character development it was better, because when Simon is shown to us we immediately see that he’s weak and lacks confidence so seeing him grow into having those qualities and the show keeping on showing us that he can do it if he only believes in himself, it felt a lot more heart warming and meaningful. But, with Ryuoko she is shown automatically to be a badass and completely confident in herself till later on but seeing Simon grow up compared Ryuoko growing up definitely didn’t have that same impact. In the end I do believe Gurren Lagann to be better but Kill la Kill definitely isn’t meant to be looked down upon, it’s still a damn good show and there’s a reason why it’s compared to Gurren Lagann, that means it’s that good.

    • @alifkembaraalam2487
      @alifkembaraalam2487 Před 4 lety +4

      If someone ask me classic anime from 2010 s first thing i will say was kill la kill, not aot or trash sao. Kill la kill is original and fun, its hard to sit down and having fun when watching anime.

    • @thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003
      @thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes I totally agree with the build up of the hero’s journey definitely goes way more to gurren lagann I felt it right at the first episode and stuck to the end of the emotional epic growth journey and I didn’t regret it from a development grown character stand point gurren lagann has it all and even has the morale that teached me no matter how bad things get in life and what you lose you have to develop and move on for the better gurren lagann help me with my depression after I lost my father 4 years ago😢.
      I love Simon and how he develops as a character who went on as a weakling of just digging holes looking up to kamina and idolizing him then thrust into the hero’s journey of adventure and it changed simon forever he lost his best Bro he then Had to deal with his depression of loss as other did then in which Nia snap him out of then lost others on the way and in the end He even lost nia the girl of his life yet he still went on we all can relate to Simon as a character gurren lagann had a moral of life is F up but you still go on
      I found gurren lagann to be the anti optimistic counter to Evangeline when you look at the parallel context I can never stop making that comparison
      Now don’t get me wrong I love kill la kill satsuki is my badass waifu let me just get that clear ok LOL 😂 but to be honest kill la kill just didn’t have that same feeling growth impact on me that gurren lagann did.
      Ps boota is my favorite mascot of all time and of all anime who literally saved the characters on multiple times that adorable little pig mole.

    • @rullocompressore1550
      @rullocompressore1550 Před 3 lety +1

      @@alifkembaraalam2487 well AoT is still great, but Gurren Lagann will always stay on top

  • @philj9594
    @philj9594 Před 4 lety +7

    Sometimes I get the feeling that people try to analyze a show to the point that they come up with conclusions that the writers didn't even consider when they were making it...

  • @foxking2349
    @foxking2349 Před 2 lety +1

    Dude I want to say I appreciate you making this video because I watched this vid 7 years ago and this is what sparked my love of anime. Bc I went to watched kill la kill and Gurren Lagann to see what u were talking about and love them so thx again man

  • @edlo8548
    @edlo8548 Před 6 lety

    2 years later, this is still the best breakdown I’ve seen for either of the shows. Really good stuff!
    Personally though, I would’ve been okay with a full-length analysis.

  • @u.chimmagodsfavour2391
    @u.chimmagodsfavour2391 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I just finished watching guren lagan yesterday and I felt like watching it again. I also felt the same way after watching kill la kill. There is something in these shows that just makes me feel like watching it over and over again. They are really interesting and satisfying shows.

  • @user-co3uc8vt7e
    @user-co3uc8vt7e Před 3 lety +6

    At last someone points out that these are two DIFFERENT shows.

  • @timothymcqueen3408
    @timothymcqueen3408 Před 2 lety +6

    I think Kill la Kill beats it out for me because of character economy. Kill la Kill makes every character memorable and worth being on screen. They are all fun in their own way and evolve with the narrative, while also not taking too much screentime away from the main characters. On the other hand, Gurren Lagann has a supposedly main character, Yoko, who can be taken out of the story without much alteration, quirky but unimportant side characters that I feel nothing for when they all die in the end, and bland side characters that are technically important, but aren't that memorable. So, while I love both of these series, Kill la Kill has the edge for me.

  • @louisduarte8763
    @louisduarte8763 Před 6 lety +2

    Very smart analysis of both shows. I don't even remember seeing any deeper references of themes after watching these shows, because everything happened so fast and crazy.

    • @philj9594
      @philj9594 Před 4 lety

      Tbh, I don't think there really even were themes that ran this deep but people will always pull these things out of their ass if they are big enough fanboys/girls of a piece of fiction. He sure did make himself sound smart when he talked though!

  • @marcosm123
    @marcosm123 Před 6 lety +8

    Gurren is about masculinity and Kill is femininity. It’s about how the human race can be amazing if we work together and how it can be terrible at the same time

  • @Zucchinna
    @Zucchinna Před 5 lety +4

    I love both, I cannot say one is better, but I did fall in love with KLK first. both are so incredibly inspiring

  • @thomaspunt2646
    @thomaspunt2646 Před 4 lety +4

    MY SCISSOR IS THE SCISSOR THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!

  • @ilyjupiter
    @ilyjupiter Před 4 lety +1

    this was my first digibro video and still one of my favourites all these years later

  • @azendance
    @azendance Před 6 lety +1

    This was perfect, thank you.

  • @benjaminhancock4114
    @benjaminhancock4114 Před 7 lety +1

    Hey DigiBro, Just wanted to say, Great job on this video. I think that Both Series are amazing and similar but also very different.

  • @Plazmadragon18
    @Plazmadragon18 Před 5 lety +2

    I watched these two back to back without even knowing there was a debate between them😂😂

  • @soloflare9696
    @soloflare9696 Před 4 lety

    I like the very clear symmetry you use in some of the images in the video, encapsulated by the background image being a symmetrical image of the earth with orange and blue on opposite sides.

  • @dhanendrra
    @dhanendrra Před 2 lety +1

    Hands down best analysis

  • @RoddyRodbb
    @RoddyRodbb Před 3 lety

    Wow, and I just watched both of these for the first time in the last week! Lol

  • @marcosm123
    @marcosm123 Před 6 lety +1

    Both shows are great in their own way and I love both of them

  • @samfacultad9669
    @samfacultad9669 Před 6 lety

    great video!

  • @skullsquad900
    @skullsquad900 Před 5 lety +6

    I loved both, but since Simon pretty much mirrors my younger self looking up to my best friend, it's always going to be held above All others.

    • @peynnep6483
      @peynnep6483 Před 5 lety +2

      it's the 1 of the true "most relateble main characters" of all time

  • @WhatIsMyPorpoise
    @WhatIsMyPorpoise Před 5 lety +3

    I watched KLK and watching this video, I ask myself: HOW THE FUCK DID THEY MANAGE TO FIT ALL THOSE ALLUSIONS AND REFERENCES AND MAKE IT ALL COHERENT WHILE KEEPING A FAIRLY SOLID STORY THAT STANDS ALL ON ITS OWN. ALL IN *A.* *SINGLE.* *YEAR.*
    HOW.

  • @LittleAl016
    @LittleAl016 Před 5 lety +3

    It probably helps that both of these shows have their own similarities to Xenoblade Chronicles (specifically the 1st game) as well. No matter how small said similarities are.

  • @lukeherring9464
    @lukeherring9464 Před 7 lety

    Impressive rundown.

  • @nb6806
    @nb6806 Před 7 lety

    Very good analysis :)

  • @scrubs9285
    @scrubs9285 Před 2 lety +3

    I was feeling like a Trigger show so I watched the first episode of Gurren Laggan, and it didn't grab me at all. I ended up watching Kill La Kill for the first time instead, and I loved it. Maybe it's time to give Gurren Laggan another chance.

  • @Netherdawg
    @Netherdawg Před 3 lety +1

    I haven't watched Gurren Lagann yet, but Kill la Kill has blown me away in every possible way. Also I must add, those two iconic songs - "Blumenkranz" and "Don't Lose Your Way" are beyond epic in their own means.

  • @boofiman6082
    @boofiman6082 Před 3 lety +3

    Kill la Kill wins hand down. I felt like I was the only one bothered by Gurren Lagann’s reliance on “BELIEVING IN YOURSELF”

    • @dragonpulse9977
      @dragonpulse9977 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah people often say Gurren Lagann is better just because they watched it first, and they call Kill la Kill shallow without even digging into it's depth

  • @CFlandre
    @CFlandre Před 5 lety +5

    I rewatched Kill la Kill for the second time recently.
    I'll say it here: I don't think Ryuko is a particularly strong or compelling protagonist.
    Her aim essentially amounts to "I want revenge for my father, and screw everyone who gets in my way, except my closest friends".
    She recklessly plunges headfirst into every fight someone picks with her, and the show actively rewards her (for the most part) for taking part in these aimless fights.
    She gets ludicrously strong very quickly, at no real cost to her.
    In the series, she has the least to lose if she fails, and is often swept up into the events around her outside of her own volition. Think about it:
    Senketsu forces himself on to Ryuko, forcing her to get stronger without an real understanding as to why.
    Ryuko's "losses" result from something Ryuko could not prevent or foresee.
    Ryuko didn't understand her familial situation at all, but it doesn't matter, and it doesn't change any kind of relationship dynamics.
    For the most part, Ryuko plays along with Honnouji Academy (go figure, when her best episode has her having some agency and CHOOSING to take part in Honnouji Academy's power structure, enriching the lives of Mako & Family).
    Satsuki, by contrast, is a MUCH more compelling character, driven by a set of deeply-rooted ideals, who doesn't always end up on the winning side of her fights.
    By the end of the series, Satsuki is a largely changed character from the beginning of the story, due to her experiencing failure on a fairly massive scale, something that she had dedicated a large portion of her life to.
    Ryuko just beat the main bad guy. That's it, really.

    • @peynnep6483
      @peynnep6483 Před 5 lety

      Ryuko is a merry sue? :D

    • @CFlandre
      @CFlandre Před 5 lety +1

      @@peynnep6483 It can be argued, yes. At least, I think so.

    • @kilato9649
      @kilato9649 Před 3 lety +3

      @@CFlandre I don't think so

  • @johnwilbur3050
    @johnwilbur3050 Před 7 lety +56

    I prefer kill la kill but gurren Laggan is probably better

    • @gabrielaugustus
      @gabrielaugustus Před 6 lety +8

      what?

    • @BirdUpFR
      @BirdUpFR Před 6 lety +4

      Exactly

    • @lollmao3247
      @lollmao3247 Před 5 lety +3

      Don't knock down kill la kill sweaty. Guerren Lagann isn't better.

    • @platinummad4701
      @platinummad4701 Před 4 lety +3

      @メンマ Menma Arts it's really not, Kill la Kill has a deeper meaning.

    • @platinummad4701
      @platinummad4701 Před 4 lety +1

      @メンマ Menma Arts czcams.com/video/IdeJ1FKdiQE/video.html watch this lol

  • @pancakepower1006
    @pancakepower1006 Před 7 lety

    This is a great video

  • @AntoniyoGreenwood
    @AntoniyoGreenwood Před 2 lety +1

    Totally got a sub outta me, this helps me tell my story using 2 anime I respect for a multitude of reasons

  • @FUZZgotGAMES
    @FUZZgotGAMES Před 7 lety +1

    Very much enjoyed this analysis. I wanted to read up more on kill la kill but some of the links posted in the description don't work anymore.

  • @cliffordcanaday7010
    @cliffordcanaday7010 Před 4 lety +1

    Gurren Lagan is by far one of my favorites, I watched it when it first came out and finally just watched Kill la Kill fairly recently and it was also amazing. Both were way more philosophical than I thought they would be and resonated with me in a big way. Both are a must watch in my opinion.

  • @TheEndiPL
    @TheEndiPL Před 5 lety +4

    I thought this whole time that Viral's name was just there to match the theme of Lord GENOME with his 4 generals named after DNA bits. Holy shit

  • @basicallyedward
    @basicallyedward Před 10 měsíci +1

    Kill La kill is one of the most unique animes what I have watched, that made me feel like I was watching anime for the first time again. The work is action packed, has enough nudity that you don't need to watch anything nudity related for couple of years. In today's anime world. There are a ton of isekais, or something related to high school where main characters are in love put don't do about it for 2 seasons until they say I love you, and the series ends. The Kill La Kill brought back to me the thing why I watched anime. What it brought? Uniqueness, fun and going beyond all expectations. It was fun to watch. It will be remembered, by many.

  • @DTBluesreviews
    @DTBluesreviews Před 5 lety +2

    Both are some of my favorite anime of all time

  • @Jokervision744
    @Jokervision744 Před 5 lety +1

    I cant think, so I watch your videos.

  • @heehomgee4671
    @heehomgee4671 Před 2 lety

    I love both of these shows so much, in fact Kill la Kill was the first anime I actively set out to watch and I adored it to death. Then, when I heard they also made Gurren Lagann I set out to watch that and cried like a baby.
    God I love these anime.

  • @hannahvincent7119
    @hannahvincent7119 Před 7 lety +2

    This is a great video, thousands of views, but not even 100 comments...?

  • @negromancer.2685
    @negromancer.2685 Před 5 lety +4

    My mind is still blown that there was a George Carlin reference in the first episode of Kill la Kill.

  • @Drafonni
    @Drafonni Před 5 lety +10

    I like the characters and animation in Kill la Kill more and the story and pacing of Gurren Laggan more.
    That is all

  • @youngsterjoey6209
    @youngsterjoey6209 Před 7 lety +45

    I...don't think you're using "penultimate" correctly there.

    • @_V0RT3X
      @_V0RT3X Před 4 lety +1

      Lmao he tried to be smart

  • @Chrissmth
    @Chrissmth Před 7 lety

    Dang this my understanding for these shows is much deeper than before

    • @philj9594
      @philj9594 Před 4 lety

      Did it make your understanding deeper, or did you just adopt someone else's half-baked ideas about the show because he conveyed them in a really official sounding manner via a CZcams video with tons of views and likes?

  • @blulu8620
    @blulu8620 Před 5 lety +4

    kill la kill was personally more enjoyable to me, but gerren laggen is also really good

  • @mrwhatcanido4942
    @mrwhatcanido4942 Před 6 lety

    awesome. thanks bro.

  • @SupreetoSaha
    @SupreetoSaha Před 7 lety

    Best CZcams video ever !!!

  • @randomwow2302
    @randomwow2302 Před 6 lety

    I can't choose which one is better I love both of them

  • @lordofemotions6661
    @lordofemotions6661 Před 6 lety

    Both shows are a masterpiece

  • @brookboi_6992
    @brookboi_6992 Před 3 lety +3

    I came off of kill la kill with it in my top 5 and im really trying to watch gurren lagann but I think I need to settle down from KLK bc it's too slow for me rn but I can tell it's really good

  • @therisingtithes
    @therisingtithes Před 7 lety +1

    This is maybe the fourth or fifth time I've watched this video, and I only *just* decided to pause at 14:18 to realize that Nakashima is also referencing my all-time favourite Kamen Rider series, which led to me only just learning that he was Fourze's lead writer, and now I want to watch Fourze all over again.
    I wonder if Digi has watched any Kamen Rider or other tokusatsu, and what he thinks of it...

  • @gabedamien
    @gabedamien Před rokem +1

    2:50 Just FYI, "penultimate" means "almost-ultimate," i.e. "second-greatest" or "second-from-the-end". For example, Y is the penultimate letter of the alphabet.

  • @spider13593
    @spider13593 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Watched klk first and gurren second, I def preferred gurren, it stuck out to me so much and honestly changed my life.

  • @JoeSakana
    @JoeSakana Před 5 lety +1

    Kill La Kill has better pacing and is my personal favorite of the two. It has a really weird lighting-in-a-bottle feel to it, the way it seems so loose, messy, and all over the place, yet comes together to create something more than the sum of its parts. Gurren Lagann feels so stiff storytelling wise (by comparison), even though in my logical brain, I feel like it is technically "better". It's an excellently told hero's journey that escalates beyond imagination, but in the end it's just a hero's journey.
    Kill la Kill, on the other hand, is just something that feels completely unique. It melds all types of anime stories together to create something that feels fresh. And I think its antagonists (Satsuki, Ragyo, and Nui) are what really give it the edge over Gurren Lagann. I love everything about those 3 characters. Satsuki in particular being one of the greatest, most badass anime characters of all time, in my opinion.

  • @POLYROYAL
    @POLYROYAL Před 3 lety

    yall remember when Ryuko was fighting the Elite 4 and she synced with Senketsu and it made the glowing spiral drill sound?

  • @foop145
    @foop145 Před 6 lety +1

    I know this video is pretty old, but I watched it recently, and my initial reaction was "there's a debate on this? Gurren Lagann is clearly superior." However, with your video in mind, I went back and re-watched Kill la Kill, and I just wanted to say thank you. Maybe it's because I'm older now, but I liked it 10x more than I did when I originally saw it. It really does a fantastic job of working contradictions in all over the place and blending it all together. I don't know how I didn't pick up on this theme in my initial viewing, Satsuki's opening line something like a minute in is "Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!" Again, thank you. This anime went from maybe a 7.5 to a 9-9.5 in my book because of the points you make here.

  • @swiggityswo9558
    @swiggityswo9558 Před 6 lety

    Theres not as much war since this is reuploaded when kill la kill calmed down. But I still like both as it is now

  • @NeverwascooL
    @NeverwascooL Před 7 lety

    Gurren Lagaan and Kill last Kill are some of my favorites because they gave me that same feeling as the first time I watch FLCL
    just something so different than want most people I know are watching it feels like I'm the only one watching such a great anime and that's what defines good anime to me. if it makes you feel like it is amazing then dammit it's amazing

  • @jadiv
    @jadiv Před 7 lety +1

    It's unfair when you monologue over don't lose your way, it just makes it more epic and powerful

  • @TheBoneman15
    @TheBoneman15 Před 3 lety

    Bruh these are my two favorite shows ever. I cant say which one is better but they are both 10/10

  • @MrOmegaFree
    @MrOmegaFree Před 5 lety +2

    YES my brain was bow out for a while while I get some of the idea from kill al kill

  • @seirramoon388
    @seirramoon388 Před 6 lety +1

    yknow what woulda been amazing, if someone out there made a crossover between gurren lagan and kill la kill (tho I'm sure there's a fanfiction of it somewhere on the internet)

    • @ndr2q
      @ndr2q Před 6 lety

      Seirra Moon -- There actually is a crossover of Kill la Kill and Gurren Lagann already -- it's called Space Patrol Luluco. It's by Hiroyuki Imaishi, the same director as both KLK and GL. It's on Crunchyroll. (The crossover just isn't obvious until several episodes in.).

  • @darwinxavier3516
    @darwinxavier3516 Před 7 lety

    First Log Horizon, then Kill la Kill. I watched two showed I ended up loving because of your recommendations.

  • @gavinvales8928
    @gavinvales8928 Před 4 lety +1

    that thumbnail broke my brain

  • @walesjedi9217
    @walesjedi9217 Před 5 lety +3

    I think they're roughly equal, I can't really put one over the other

  • @aliasifmoosa9877
    @aliasifmoosa9877 Před 6 lety

    Love the OST of both series

  • @mantic5423
    @mantic5423 Před 5 lety +1

    these are my 2 favorite anime of all time but I still can't figure out which one is better in my opinion

  • @globnob
    @globnob Před rokem +1

    I like Gurren Lagann, but KLK's characters grabbed me more. The animation was more appealing to me, and the plot connected with me more. I do have bias, as KLK was the first anime I watched, but looking back, I really do feel that KLK has a more impactful plot, with more memorable characters.

  • @joaovictorferian350
    @joaovictorferian350 Před 5 lety +3

    love both shows
    But everyone knows Gurren Lagann is better